Switzerland uses highway as runway

For the first time since 1991 the swiss air force is using a section of highway A1 near Payerne as an improvised runway

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Noted.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >PrepHole won't let me upload half of the pictures i downloaded

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >some cheeky fricker added a Vignette
    >kek

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's switzerland, you gotta follow the rules. Or federalscarysoundinginstitutionprocess will get you.

      • 2 weeks ago
        You're Jewish

        Rules are to be followed.

        Yes but what about staying under the speed limit?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rules are to be followed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based TEC player
      Sins of a Solar Empire is GOATED

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought the guy standing on the plane was a giant at first.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He’s a big guy

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do swiss pilots joke about using german autobahns instead, because there's no speed limit there?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they also apparently made a pretty cool special patch

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why in italian?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why is the patch in one of the official languages of the nation?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't they speak swiss?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            swiss isn't a language. We speak german, french, italian and Rumantsch (rumantsch is a romance language that is spoken by a few people and was only adopted as offical as a propaganda tool during WW2)

            the Swiss-german dialect is technically it's own language different from regular german, but it has no standardized writing, so for official documents and stuff german is used

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Swiss military code alphabet use Italian derived names for numbers. It's easier to understand over noisy channels compared to French or German. Also, Italian is an official language.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can confirm, in afghanistan italian radio chatter was weirdly clear even when noisy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambini-Code
        is what you need when you speak three languages
        >Salat
        pilot is confused
        >Campari
        pilot needs refueling
        >Casino
        home base

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't even know the Swiss had an airforce.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Swiss have always had a pretty good military for their size, the price of neutrality is you need to be able to defend your nation without any help.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I ran into a former swiss fighter pilot at an airshow some years back. To quote thé man:
      >Flying an F-18 in Switzerland is like having sex wearing an undersized condom

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At least they rarely need to load up on bags.
        Lightly loaded hornet with just basic A/A load must be a lot of fun to fly.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She'll super-cruise clean.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There were some news a few years ago that due to budget limitations their airbases could only operate during office hours. The airbases were closed at night, so when a commercial flight was hijacked French Mirages had to enter Swiss airspace

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How else are they going to protect our politicians' money

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    haven't most of those smaller mainland euro and baltic countries been doing this for decades?
    I vaguely remember one of the requirements of the Viggen and Gripen being that it had to be capable of being maintained on, taking off from, and landing on highways

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dispersed road bases used to be pretty common everywhere. They just make sense.
      What the Swedes and other nords(?) did was maintain the know-how when others stopped.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Så sant så sant.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah we (Norway) did highway take off and landing exercises with our CTOL F-35's just last year

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all of NATO practised this during the Cold War, picrel

      https://i.imgur.com/ps2c9Ej.jpeg

      >completely surrounded by NATO
      Sometimes I wonder what exactly is the purpose of Swiss military.

      I mean unlike WW2, where Swiss were truly neutral in the sense that they were somewhat equally distant from everyone involved and could feasibly be invaded by either side, this is not the case anymore
      Switzerland is now deeply embedded in the euro-atlantic western community in anything but name.

      There is simply no real, likely, plausible, or even feasible threat of invasion. And they are surrounded by friendly countries. But rather than taking the Irish way (i.e. basically getting rid of their military while using de facto cover of NATO for their security at none of the cost) they continue to maintain a minimum conventional deterrence.

      Dont get me wrong, i applaud this. Its just that it does not make much sense to me. Even Austria, which is further East and in relatively close vicinity to potential NATO-Third party flashpoints (and as such, war) severly downsized their military.

      >tl;dr - Switzerland is the only neutral European country that actually bothers to maintian credible deterrence, despite not even being the one at greatest risk. Why?

      >Switzerland
      >credible
      pull the other one

      https://i.imgur.com/IxYCmOQ.jpeg

      I see Swiss F18s training in the UK yearly, they come here to learn supersonic maneuvers (over the north sea) EW and night flying (not allowed to fly at night in CH cos rules).
      It was interesting to learn the have only recently stationed 2 F18s to be available 24 hours a day, prior to 2021 no Swiss jets flew at night.
      Good to see them.

      >the have only recently stationed 2 F18s to be available 24 hours a day
      for their purposes, that's enough
      >prior to 2021 no Swiss jets flew at night.
      yeah that was kind of embarrassing

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NATO went so far as to ask, "what if we don't have any intact roads left?"

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >since 1991
    ... Why? Around here that is like basic training for the fighter pilots because you cant trust airfields during conflict. Thats like common sense, so why swiss only now are restarting that?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Money, like every other nation in europe our military got massive budget cuts

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >since 1991
        ... Why? Around here that is like basic training for the fighter pilots because you cant trust airfields during conflict. Thats like common sense, so why swiss only now are restarting that?

        The modern jets might also be a bit bigger/heavier, and have to worry more about runway debris and damaging the asphalt with their exhaust.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and here some pics from exercises during the cold war

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those are some beautiful birds. What are they? I'm not at all familiar with European aircraft.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DeHavilland Venom, they look similar to the vampire but the tail fin is wider and extends past the booms, which is how you can tell them apart reliably

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nice, thank you!

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who does Swiss Cheese country support? I through they are always neutrool. What do they need jets for anyway?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to enforce said neutrality. you can only be truly neutral if you can enforce being neutral

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To be neutral means to be able to repel any one of the countries around you.
        To which I say, good luck to them. If anyone decides to reich up and get some easy gold, that's where Switzerland ends.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >webm
          wtf is that from lmao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mad Heidi

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Switzerland is easy as frick to defend due to its geography.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Switzerland held off the 3rd reich just fine, I don't doubt they could hold back a 4th.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Not posting the edit
          Wish I wasn't on my phone.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Story time anon.
          The german Kaiser once asked jockingly to a swiss politician what the 500k swiss militia could do against the 1 million man german army.
          The swiss lokked at the Kaiser and said :
          "They would shoot twice and go home."
          And Germany never invaded the goldfull tiny country next to them.
          Think about it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that story has variations for shitloads of different countries, both as the supposed aggressor and defender. It's like the "we're a lighthouse, your move" story.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A Formula 1 driver once jokingly asked a dirt track truck driver how the truck driver could possibly win a race in his truck against the twice-as-fast F1 car.
            The truck driver looked at the F1 driver and said "I would drive for twice as long."
            Think about it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And Germany never invaded the goldfull tiny country next to them.
            Why would they?
            It was harmless, cowed into inaction, AND their pseudo neutrality made it a good way to launder money.
            https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-01-13-mn-18207-story.html
            Had the Nazi won, Swiss puppet would have kneeled, again, to be allowed any contact with the outside.
            Neutrality is the first step toward becoming a slave.

            https://i.imgur.com/3SlitkK.jpeg

            Switzerland is beautiful, immaculate, and I love their smug superiority and rigidity of expectations and culture. They are proud of who, and what they are, in a way much of the West has forgotten.

            Keep it up bros, I'm rooting for you.

            >smug superiority and rigidity of expectations and culture
            That go down the toilet the second money is involved.
            >They are proud of who, and what they are, in a way much of the West has forgotten.
            The West sure didn't forget how easily corruptible the Swiss are.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy Gripen.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where is the vignette?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      https://i.imgur.com/6QXxtCX.jpeg

      >some cheeky fricker added a Vignette
      >kek

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it was a myth/urban legend in Cold War that sections of USA's massive interstate and other big wide-A S S ( * ) roads were also runways.

    It was a myth because it would be so stupid not to include that feature if the Fed Govt is going to pay for lots of miles long perfectly flat 100ft wide strips on concrete, but as normal, they really are that stupid.

    However, some airforce bases have been turned into raceways. Big "sideshow" bust near Modesto at some abandoned USAF small airbase.

    If I was running shit, all sorts of bit straight highway sections would double as airstrips for civil airplanes, just for the lutz. Where easy, have a detour sideroad and some flashing lights embedded in the road way, and a detour off the airstrip into a parking lot for the planes. Parking lot would typically be the ass-end of some big biz-park's lot, because that is WTF would be flying small planes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      USA isn't really a frontline state where the enemy can actually explicitly attack airbases with anything but nuclear weapons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it was a myth/urban legend in Cold War that sections of USA's massive interstate and other big wide-A S S ( * ) roads were also runways.

      https://www.wyomingpublicmedia.org/news/2023-05-05/a-wyoming-highway-closed-for-three-hours-so-the-air-force-could-land-planes-on-it

      It's not a myth, Eisenhower saw the interstate first and foremost as a military project.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It was a myth because it would be so stupid not to include that feature if the Fed Govt is going to pay for lots of miles long perfectly flat 100ft wide strips on concrete
      In other words, they did it and it's not a myth.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >have a detour sideroad and some flashing lights embedded in the road way, and a detour off the airstrip into a parking lot for the planes.
      I have a better idea, you could make the detour be for the planes and let the cars just keep driving on the normal road. Then you can keep the planes and cars apart easily. Let's call the detour for the planes a... runway! Yeah! Great idea!

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do they have any modern aircraft like F-16 or JF-17 involved?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        JF-17's were there and can do highway landings.

        J-10CP's and F-16's are too high value and within lower intakes are probably more at risk of FOD to make it worthwhile.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know this aint new nor swiss, but I really dig declassified military documentaries with bop 80s electronic tunes. Commies were bad at many things, but internal propaganda wasn't one of them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yet another installment of the documentary about the War That Never Happened.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Finland has been doing this since they had mig21’s and will use the f35’s as such

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for once the other way around

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  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >completely surrounded by NATO
    Sometimes I wonder what exactly is the purpose of Swiss military.

    I mean unlike WW2, where Swiss were truly neutral in the sense that they were somewhat equally distant from everyone involved and could feasibly be invaded by either side, this is not the case anymore
    Switzerland is now deeply embedded in the euro-atlantic western community in anything but name.

    There is simply no real, likely, plausible, or even feasible threat of invasion. And they are surrounded by friendly countries. But rather than taking the Irish way (i.e. basically getting rid of their military while using de facto cover of NATO for their security at none of the cost) they continue to maintain a minimum conventional deterrence.

    Dont get me wrong, i applaud this. Its just that it does not make much sense to me. Even Austria, which is further East and in relatively close vicinity to potential NATO-Third party flashpoints (and as such, war) severly downsized their military.

    >tl;dr - Switzerland is the only neutral European country that actually bothers to maintian credible deterrence, despite not even being the one at greatest risk. Why?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but we downsized massively. our military industrial complex is in shambles, the training standard is comparatively bad, half the recruits are balkaners and our defence minister has pushing the women percentage to 10% of personnel as her prime goal.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >our defence minister has pushing the women percentage to 10% of personnel as her prime goal.
        That's not a bad goal. It doesn't make sense to leave half you country's potential manpower on the table (womanpower, whatever). "Free a man to fight" and all that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are one of the only western countries that still plan long term. If they let their MIC die it'll take decades to rebuild and in that time you could have WW1 and WW2 with all the political change that comes with it.
      Sure since 1991 there hasn't been a credible threat but that's just over 30 years, no one has any idea what the European political landscape will be like in 2050.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They are one of the only western countries that still plan long term. If they let their MIC die it'll take decades to rebuild
        Are you under some delusion that SIG is still European?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you talking about SIG Sauer, Inc. or SIG Sauer AG?
          Don't forget chink SIG.
          https://www.sig.biz/en/news-insights/press-releases/second-sig-production-plant-in-china-now-up-and-running

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The kind of shot their MIC in the ass with their stupid export restrictions. Their foreign sales dropped by 25% in 2023, at a time when the world arms sector is booming.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can blame the direct democracy for that. Still many boomers and morons that vote against it without understanding what they are doing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would personally invade Switzerland and take their cheese

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      surrounded by NATO
      Not quite.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's so over mountain sisters

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        technically switzerland is habsburg territory that is in a state of rebellion.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The real German Empire lives on in the one country unmolested by NATO.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There is simply no real, likely, plausible, or even feasible threat of invasion.
      A-anon, I...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ah yes, Gaddafi was obviously an authority on European policy making.
        That's some real "these countries should do it because I would do it" projection that dictators do all the time, just to be proven wrong time and time again.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Brainlet

          Gaddafi suggested it partly out of anger because Switzerland had the nerve to arrest his son for the trivial act of repeatedly beating servants at their hotel. He also played into his whole Arab League/African Union anti-colonialism shtick by being an outsider suggesting on border divisions in Europe, in a similar manner to the borders of the Middle East and Africa by colonial powers (although it fails at that because he did it along ethnic/cultural lines, unlike the clusterfrick left behind in the Levant and Africa). Just a butthurt man seething and coping, not a serious suggestion.

          He's not wrong though, the world would be a better place without the gnomes of Zurich, those money-laundering mountain israelites. Total Gnome Death cannot come soon enough.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If the EU wanted to annex Switzerland they'd do it via economic power and subversion, not with military force.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No Romansh People's Republic

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Despite our attempts to find a diplomatic solution to our conflict with Switzerland, negotiations have once again broken down, leaving us with limited options. The authoritarian Viola Amherd's regime has displayed the unreasonable approach to this matter typical of leaders who are not accountable to their people. Barring a complete turnaround in the policies of Swiss leadership, we will be left with no recourse but to fight.'
        European Union intervention in Switzerland has been a hot issue, with some politicians in the opposition claiming that Die Mitte has pursued a hawkish policy from the start. Whatever their original intent, a future war now suddenly seems very real and inevitable.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Amherd regime
          kek, you have no idea how Swiss government works. You should rather inform yourself first before posting russian propaganda copypasta.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lurk more homosexual

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whoever made this up is moronic, I hope he gets knifed in the ass.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Whoever made this up is moronic, I hope he gets knifed in the ass.
          Well I got good news for you anon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like flat-bottomed Germany as-is, couldn't they give that part to Austria or something?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chinese space troopers could make an orbital drop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe they don't want to be invaded by NATO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Swiss are holding their forces in /reserve/, in case the Chinese launch an offensive that threatens Taiwan oorrr, maybe even, Geneva(?), at which point, they will be ready to strike.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just gonna leave this here

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fortified Switzerland/"Fortress of Peace"(1964), btw

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, this one of many reasons why Europe and America copies Germany's autobahn.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Won't the jet exhaust melt the road surface?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought they used the Gripen, LOL. Turns out that the Swiss and swedes are different countries.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Swiss and swedes are different countries
      None of those is a country.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I see Swiss F18s training in the UK yearly, they come here to learn supersonic maneuvers (over the north sea) EW and night flying (not allowed to fly at night in CH cos rules).
    It was interesting to learn the have only recently stationed 2 F18s to be available 24 hours a day, prior to 2021 no Swiss jets flew at night.
    Good to see them.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't every country have designated highway areas for military planes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, its quite rare, IIRC something like 15 - 20 countries has it or has had it

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pfft Beaches are where its at these days

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >swiss corrupt politicians listened to the ~~*happy merchant) and bought F35 as next gen fighters
    >F35's delivery will be delayed
    >F35 will come with outdated shits
    >outdated shits will still come with american spywares
    It's fricking over...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Switzerland freeloads off of NATO for security. They can get to the back of the line (and don't forget to tip).

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good God Swiss F/A-18L is so kino
    twin engine for redundancy
    non folding wing (9G capable)
    beefy gear for highways

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the F/A-18L was never built, we operate F/A-18Cs with regular folding wings. They do have additional titanium reinforcement, meaning they can pull slightly more Gs

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would the swiss be able to fight off NATO? I don't think so. Would the swiss be able to fight off whoever managed to beat NATO in order to reach them? I don't think so either.
    That being said, it's a lot more honorable than being freeloaders like the Irish.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Many countries have such approaches.

    In Romania, the Bucharest -Pitesti motorway was created the same way

    Fun fact: grandpa was an aviation engineer and, at some point, he was part of a delegation in North Korea. The norks have military airports built inside mountains, which sounds impressive at first, until you realize the humidity inside rusts the planes

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Switzerland is beautiful, immaculate, and I love their smug superiority and rigidity of expectations and culture. They are proud of who, and what they are, in a way much of the West has forgotten.

    Keep it up bros, I'm rooting for you.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cool thread OP

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