FUCK I was just up there last month. I missed it by a mile.
Reading the story of its acquisition right now. Its a whole story, apparently. I guess it was bought from Ukraine back in 2009 and just kind of floated around for a few years before popping up out of nowhere. >Both aircraft have freshly-overhauled (zero-time) airframes with zero-time engines, and have just completed extensive inspections and Westernization by skilled factory technicians. The aircraft have U.S. instrumentation and avionics, but retain every bit of character, pedigree, and performance they had in foreign military service.
Christ, I bet they creamed themselves when checking the docket for the inspection.
During the cold war defecting with a plane came with rewards, from 100K to a million dollars, a new identity and place to live of the defector's choosing, free education at whatever american college they wanted, as far as I know the soviets never did anything like this.
During the cold war defecting with a plane came with rewards, from 100K to a million dollars, a new identity and place to live of the defector's choosing, free education at whatever american college they wanted, as far as I know the soviets never did anything like this.
The MiG 15 that famously defected during the Korean conflict is located at the museum too. The pilot died last year 🙁
Russian instrumentation is retarded, at least engineers in the west understand ergonomic cockpit design.
Is this some weird trick of perspective or is the MiG-29 really that small? Having two engines and twin rudders I always felt like it'd be bigger, like the Su-27 next to it or an F-15. It's so dinky.
The Mig-29 is to the Su-27 what the F-16 is to the F-15 (sort of)
> >Both aircraft have freshly-overhauled (zero-time) airframes with zero-time engines, and have just completed extensive inspections and Westernization by skilled factory technicians. The aircraft have U.S. instrumentation and avionics, but retain every bit of character, pedigree, and performance they had in foreign military service
That’s from a forum post in 2009. I bet the owners that bought them around that period used the heck out of them.
> When the museum announced it had purchased the Su-27 late last month, it certainly caused something of a stir amongst aviation enthusiasts, as The War Zone reported at the time. The aircraft’s distinct camouflage scheme and Soviet-style 'bort' number of the nose — Blue 32 — were quickly linked to an Su-27 which had been on the U.S. civil register as N132SU. That aircraft was first registered with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in 2009 and, along with another Su-27UB, N131SU, was purchased on the open market from Ukraine and put up for sale by Pride Aircraft, Inc. >While it was claimed by the company that the two Flankers had been sold by the spring of 2011, from there their whereabouts was a mystery. They quite literally disappeared into the black. Between this time and N132SU’s sale to the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force in September, it was widely believed that the Flanker found its way into the highly classified world of Foreign Material Exploitation, or FME, quite likely out of the Air Force's Groom Lake test facility, more commonly known as Area 51. The precise reason why N132SU recently emerged from the shadows is also something of a mystery; it’s entirely possible that the military’s needs for the aircraft were met, or that any programs associated with it were shut down. The location of N131SU remains unclear.
>The NMUSAF is the oldest and largest military aviation museum in the world, with more than 360 aircraft and missiles on display.[1] The museum draws about a million visitors each year, making it one of the most frequently visited tourist attractions in Ohio.[4]
If you have any fascination of history, aviation, or military stuff you will enjoy it.
It's great, and free. Toss the poor guys a five or a ten when you go in though, they're struggling to keep the lights on, literally. They have all sorts of planes, including a B-36 peacemaker, a few rare WWI and WWII planes, Memphis Belle, a space shuttle, and a few former presidential planes. one of which is supposedly haunted. There are also a few planes outside the museum, plus a bunch of memorials.
oh yeah, get there by at least noon if you want to see most of everything. I spent five hours there, noon to five, and it was not enough to see everything and take my time with it. >The museum is open 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. seven days a week. The museum is closed on Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's Day.
Also I recommend Linh's Bistro nearby. Cheap Vietnamese food, and not usually very busy. Plus they give you a shit ton of food with the order.
There’s also a boatload of other museums and exhibits in the general area: >Packard Museum >National Aviation Hall of Fame >Wright Cycle Company shop >British Transportation Museum >Dayton Aviation Heritage National Historical Park >Miami Valley Military History Museum >Cold War Gallery >Huffman Prairie Flying Field Interpretive Center >Wright Brothers National Museum >World War 2 Gallery
Hell even Mid Ohio isn't that far away and if you're there on a weekend in the summer your could catch shit like Superbike races there while you were at it.
>Not that far away
Mid Ohio is two hours from Dayton, and the pricing there is criminal for how shitty the track and facilities are. Don't bother with Mid Ohio unless you really like racing, and even then I would recommend just going to Watkins Glen instead.
Wright Patterson was one of the most amazing things I got to see as a kid, and still is fucking amazing as an adult. It just sucks now that I live further away.
Don't remember, sorry anon. I don't think it was a hentai doujin. I took a cursory glance through the usual channels and didn't find shit for a source.
That’s a pity. Thanks for trying. It’s hard to get our fill of GuP when the studio takes 2 years for a short flick that’s ultimately nothing more than filler.
OK then what about something older like F-4 or A-8, those are not peak tech and not in use, still 0 of those in russia. Also Iran has Tomcats for example, russians could buy one, paint it in Navy colors and put it in a museum, for propaganda reasons. But they don't.
Knowing Russian museums and such, they'd probably let it sit out in the elements to deteriorate. The sole Su-47 is doing exactly that at the moment along with a bunch of other planes.
It's okay, you might see the 47 fly again. When it and all those other prototypes sitting around are made useful, rigged up and flown as suicide drones into a Ukrainian farmer's outhouse.
>OK then what about something older like F-4 or A-8, those are not peak tech and not in use, still 0 of those in russia.
USSR got F-5 from Vietnam for evaluation, Poland and Czechoslovakia did the same IIRC. IDK what happened to our one, i heard that polish and czechs have theirs on display. >russians could buy one, paint it in Navy colors and put it in a museum, for propaganda reasons
Why? It is okay to boast about a honest trophy, or that of your ally. Burgers have none of those, just the planes that defectors hijacked or thosr that poorass greedy cockholes sold to them in the 00s.
Is this some weird trick of perspective or is the MiG-29 really that small? Having two engines and twin rudders I always felt like it'd be bigger, like the Su-27 next to it or an F-15. It's so dinky.
Because Lockheed and the government paying them like to pretend a 50yo airframe isn't obsolete, and is in fact a piece of national security-vital hardware that can't be shared.
russia has no allies with cool planes. I live in some random part of new york and even here there's a random museum with a mig in it. They're everywhere
I’m a little offended that Russia would host a mediocre display like that in their off island Air Force museum, especially for something significant as that.
I’m a little offended that Russia would host a mediocre display like that in their off island Air Force museum, especially for something significant as that.
I read the typo and I was like, "Oh okay, so it's in Kronstadt?"
The monkey stole all the model money to buy himself another golden toilet brush and a casino room with a stripper pole. You should be happy someone put a little rope barrier around it.
Belgrade’s aviation museum even does a better job that Russia, it has a model of the F-117 next to the cananopy of the one shot down along with some other pieces.
Other parts of the plane are displayed alongside prices of the F-16 that was shot down.
ITAR
so russian technology is just free for all while american is under regulations even if it's ancient?
Pretty much
That is not AI generated, this is a piece of PrepHole heritage sir.
Yes, cause American tech works.
>tranime fans
Ah yes, the moral core of To Love Ru is very deep indeed.
Labyrinth doesn't have a moral core
>what are the tactical advantages?
>why does [stupid question]?
these bait threads are aggravating regardless of which side you support. fuck off
Learn to filter
FUCK I was just up there last month. I missed it by a mile.
Reading the story of its acquisition right now. Its a whole story, apparently. I guess it was bought from Ukraine back in 2009 and just kind of floated around for a few years before popping up out of nowhere.
>Both aircraft have freshly-overhauled (zero-time) airframes with zero-time engines, and have just completed extensive inspections and Westernization by skilled factory technicians. The aircraft have U.S. instrumentation and avionics, but retain every bit of character, pedigree, and performance they had in foreign military service.
Christ, I bet they creamed themselves when checking the docket for the inspection.
yeah I think it's well known how russian jets get to USA, I'm wondering why no jets made the opposite journey
because russia is poor.
During the cold war defecting with a plane came with rewards, from 100K to a million dollars, a new identity and place to live of the defector's choosing, free education at whatever american college they wanted, as far as I know the soviets never did anything like this.
The MiG 15 that famously defected during the Korean conflict is located at the museum too. The pilot died last year 🙁
>The aircraft have U.S. instrumentation and avionics
Ruined and soulless
Russian instrumentation is retarded, at least engineers in the west understand ergonomic cockpit design.
The Mig-29 is to the Su-27 what the F-16 is to the F-15 (sort of)
> >Both aircraft have freshly-overhauled (zero-time) airframes with zero-time engines, and have just completed extensive inspections and Westernization by skilled factory technicians. The aircraft have U.S. instrumentation and avionics, but retain every bit of character, pedigree, and performance they had in foreign military service
That’s from a forum post in 2009. I bet the owners that bought them around that period used the heck out of them.
> When the museum announced it had purchased the Su-27 late last month, it certainly caused something of a stir amongst aviation enthusiasts, as The War Zone reported at the time. The aircraft’s distinct camouflage scheme and Soviet-style 'bort' number of the nose — Blue 32 — were quickly linked to an Su-27 which had been on the U.S. civil register as N132SU. That aircraft was first registered with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in 2009 and, along with another Su-27UB, N131SU, was purchased on the open market from Ukraine and put up for sale by Pride Aircraft, Inc.
>While it was claimed by the company that the two Flankers had been sold by the spring of 2011, from there their whereabouts was a mystery. They quite literally disappeared into the black. Between this time and N132SU’s sale to the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force in September, it was widely believed that the Flanker found its way into the highly classified world of Foreign Material Exploitation, or FME, quite likely out of the Air Force's Groom Lake test facility, more commonly known as Area 51. The precise reason why N132SU recently emerged from the shadows is also something of a mystery; it’s entirely possible that the military’s needs for the aircraft were met, or that any programs associated with it were shut down. The location of N131SU remains unclear.
>I bet the owners that bought them around that period used the heck out of them.
Well yeah, they were used for aggressor training
How is the museum? I'm planning a visit
>The NMUSAF is the oldest and largest military aviation museum in the world, with more than 360 aircraft and missiles on display.[1] The museum draws about a million visitors each year, making it one of the most frequently visited tourist attractions in Ohio.[4]
If you have any fascination of history, aviation, or military stuff you will enjoy it.
nice
It's great, and free. Toss the poor guys a five or a ten when you go in though, they're struggling to keep the lights on, literally. They have all sorts of planes, including a B-36 peacemaker, a few rare WWI and WWII planes, Memphis Belle, a space shuttle, and a few former presidential planes. one of which is supposedly haunted. There are also a few planes outside the museum, plus a bunch of memorials.
oh yeah, get there by at least noon if you want to see most of everything. I spent five hours there, noon to five, and it was not enough to see everything and take my time with it.
>The museum is open 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. seven days a week. The museum is closed on Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's Day.
Also I recommend Linh's Bistro nearby. Cheap Vietnamese food, and not usually very busy. Plus they give you a shit ton of food with the order.
There’s also a boatload of other museums and exhibits in the general area:
>Packard Museum
>National Aviation Hall of Fame
>Wright Cycle Company shop
>British Transportation Museum
>Dayton Aviation Heritage National Historical Park
>Miami Valley Military History Museum
>Cold War Gallery
>Huffman Prairie Flying Field Interpretive Center
>Wright Brothers National Museum
>World War 2 Gallery
Hell even Mid Ohio isn't that far away and if you're there on a weekend in the summer your could catch shit like Superbike races there while you were at it.
>Not that far away
Mid Ohio is two hours from Dayton, and the pricing there is criminal for how shitty the track and facilities are. Don't bother with Mid Ohio unless you really like racing, and even then I would recommend just going to Watkins Glen instead.
Wright Patterson was one of the most amazing things I got to see as a kid, and still is fucking amazing as an adult. It just sucks now that I live further away.
Its shit because it ruins your expectations of going to any other aviation museum after. Its the best I have ever been to.
what the FUCK! I was there on the 29th last month, and NOW they decide to put the SU-27 on display... I don't have any more time off until December.
🙁
Sauce…?
Half their pilots are probably old enough to be afghan veterans
Don't remember, sorry anon. I don't think it was a hentai doujin. I took a cursory glance through the usual channels and didn't find shit for a source.
That’s a pity. Thanks for trying. It’s hard to get our fill of GuP when the studio takes 2 years for a short flick that’s ultimately nothing more than filler.
why is yukari so sexy bros?
Because they're peak Western tech which is still in use, while Puccian garbage is behind them by 30 years. Next thread
OK then what about something older like F-4 or A-8, those are not peak tech and not in use, still 0 of those in russia. Also Iran has Tomcats for example, russians could buy one, paint it in Navy colors and put it in a museum, for propaganda reasons. But they don't.
I doubt Iran would be willing to sell any Tomcats they've got no way to source parts anymore
Knowing Russian museums and such, they'd probably let it sit out in the elements to deteriorate. The sole Su-47 is doing exactly that at the moment along with a bunch of other planes.
It's okay, you might see the 47 fly again. When it and all those other prototypes sitting around are made useful, rigged up and flown as suicide drones into a Ukrainian farmer's outhouse.
there's a 37 and 57 right next to it too, which - lol at the latter one.
57 is already in a museum? I mean I'm not really shocked, just suprised
well the first... 12 or so preproduction models were all testbeds and bespoke things, right? could be one of those
https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/sukhoi-su-47-berkut/view/google/
dunno if it's still there i'm too intoxicated to care to check
Every time these images get posted I feel angry and sad at the same time.
These girls deserved better.
did they cut the Su-37 in half?!
It's actually at a site about 20 miles south of the museum.
its actually sitting in the back of an airport lmao
The F-14 is the IRIAF's trump card lmao no way they'd just sell those.
Swap them out for brand new Su-27+++++'s maybe, but there are better ways to get cash.
I'm sure there are some older no longer useful airframes that were stripped for parts rotting in hangars so that they can keep the better ones flying
>OK then what about something older like F-4 or A-8, those are not peak tech and not in use, still 0 of those in russia.
USSR got F-5 from Vietnam for evaluation, Poland and Czechoslovakia did the same IIRC. IDK what happened to our one, i heard that polish and czechs have theirs on display.
>russians could buy one, paint it in Navy colors and put it in a museum, for propaganda reasons
Why? It is okay to boast about a honest trophy, or that of your ally. Burgers have none of those, just the planes that defectors hijacked or thosr that poorass greedy cockholes sold to them in the 00s.
>Two Su-27s were delivered to the U.S. in 1995 from Belarus
>poorfag zmagars
Little difference.
>peak western tech
And its still annihilates anything that the puccians have in stock. Nice cope though
Yeah and it had DataLink in like 1991
Would an F-16 look this ridiculously dwarfed if put next to an F-15? I feel like it wouldn't.
>Would an F-16 look this ridiculously dwarfed if put next to an F-15
if photographed from the same angle and the same lens, yes
F-16 is a cute little bird.
There's an F-117 in a Serb Museum
>russian museums
you mean heated equipment depots?
Is this some weird trick of perspective or is the MiG-29 really that small? Having two engines and twin rudders I always felt like it'd be bigger, like the Su-27 next to it or an F-15. It's so dinky.
>half the pilots are visibly out of shape even through those huge puffy jackets
KWAB
Can manlets ever catch a break?
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The MiG-29 isn't small, the SU-27 is just that big. Same goes for the F-16 and F-15.
the Su-27 is enormous; it's 22m long which is roughly equivalent to a WWII B-17 Flying Fortress..
because the US didn't lose the cold war
Because Lockheed and the government paying them like to pretend a 50yo airframe isn't obsolete, and is in fact a piece of national security-vital hardware that can't be shared.
>russian museums
I assume you are talking about the field, comrade? There is no more room.
russia has no allies with cool planes. I live in some random part of new york and even here there's a random museum with a mig in it. They're everywhere
>Sukhoi and MiG
belongs in museum
>Why are there no F-15s or F-16s in russian museums?
American planes in Russian museums are stored only in pieces
I’m a little offended that Russia would host a mediocre display like that in their off island Air Force museum, especially for something significant as that.
> off island
Official*
Fucking mobile posting like a fag atm
I read the typo and I was like, "Oh okay, so it's in Kronstadt?"
The monkey stole all the model money to buy himself another golden toilet brush and a casino room with a stripper pole. You should be happy someone put a little rope barrier around it.
That's it? You don't even get like a little model of the intact airplane or an outline on the floor or something?
Belgrade’s aviation museum even does a better job that Russia, it has a model of the F-117 next to the cananopy of the one shot down along with some other pieces.
Other parts of the plane are displayed alongside prices of the F-16 that was shot down.
Thankfully these will be preserved for future generations and not send up like the SU-47.
Many ex Warsaw Pact countries joined NATO and ex soviet weapons was donated to museums. Nothing similar in other way.
Russia lost the cold War, losers don't put loot in museums.
uhhh okay but they have literally our cheapest and most replaceable mil asset in a museum? where is your morale now, fag?
Touche, sir
Don’t forget the TB-2 and M777 that had to be built from scrap and pieces as their only captured examples were destroyed.
>a fucking dshk
kek
Could be a transfer from Poland to the Ukes. Pretty sure the Humvees we sold the Poles were Dushka-armed since that's what they had.
That’s a Ukie humvee.
Also notice they take better care of captured material than their own literal history.
What's that vehicle in the background?
Probably a Saxon
It wasn’t a war and Russia didn’t exist when it happened
Cope
I went to this museum with my girlfriend and I autismed out
I think that's why Dad always took us there, so that we could have family plane autism moments.
Which one is better in war thunder, su-27 or mig?
what exactly is the doctrine concerning the use of mig29s vs flanker types anyway? is it just like F16s and F15s?
The Russian military is a museum
and they're losing exhibits faster than the british museum
USSR captured at least two US airmen after shooting them down. What about US?