Stupid question

Noguns here, with a really stupid question. What's the point of making new firearm designs? What stops manufacturers from simply taking a proven design like say, an AK, and just slightly altering it to fit a desired caliber? I imagine you'd need to fiddle a bit with gas pressure, spring tension, barrel materials etc. depending on the cartridge, but isn't that much simpler than designing a new gun from the ground up? At the end of the day you just need something to hit the primer and something to cycle the next bullet in, why reinvent the wheel?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    epic it's another thinly-veiled slide thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >genuine question about firearms with potential for gun related discussion
      >iTs aNoThEr sLidE tHrEad
      I hate ziggers as much as the next guy but I feel like the war in Ukraine broke this board

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Fuck ya mudda

    AKs are actually expensive and there is an interest in diversification of the market.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kid I'm not even joking, you sound like one of the biggest homosexuals I've seen on this board in months if not years

    I genuinely wonder how tough your life must be because of you saying and doing moronic shit like this post day after day

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What stops manufacturers from simply taking a proven design like say, an AK, and just slightly altering it to fit a desired caliber?
    That sort of thing is very common. You can buy AK's in tons of calibers, including pistol and shotgun calibers. And likewise for nearly any other proven gun design. Break-action doubles exist in every caliber from .17 rimfire to 4-gauge. Pretty much every bolt-action rifle is a knockoff of the Mauser and again are available in everything from tiny pipsqueak calibers to 20mm. ARs are available in a billion calibers including shotguns. All of those guns exist in both long gun and handgun versions.

    >but isn't that much simpler than designing a new gun from the ground up?
    Sometimes simple isn't the point and new things have to be done in pursuit of a goal. If everyone just stuck with "what just worked" we wouldn't have today's tiny carry pieces and everyone would be carrying broomhandle Mausers.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >/b/
    >/vt/
    >/PrepHole/
    >/trash/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      homie you long

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    everything is a copy of either AR or AK now.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Fuck ya mudda

    Because how are you supposed to CC an AK? Or hit a target a mile away? Or shoot more than 100 rounds in continuous fire?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ak 2.0?
      i dont.... understand..

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Finnish gunmakers have been emboldened to make black rifles recently, so we are getting just that

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Congrats on being more fricktarded than I will ever be and knowing jack shit about firearms.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    fuck your mother

    what's the point of improving anything and just making variants of the same design made like 80 years ago moron

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, your post really summoned the mentally ill people, huh. impressive.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thats basically what happens. Most "new guns" are a handful of existing actions put in a different receiver.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The AK is a copy of the M1 Garand and 90% of military rifles invented in the last 25 years if not longer are copies of the AR18.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To preface, yeah I do consider all those guns you’re talking about to be basically AR18s. But are they copied off of it, or was AR18 the rifle, solved, and everything else after it just a crab? They’re all just short stroke piston rotating bolt. Is that just the best way to do things?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The AK is a copy of the M1 Garand
      what a stupid claim, the only comparable thing is the charging bcg, everything else is stg44, even the appearance is uncanny

      i hope for everyone you have to encounter irl, that you're just posting low quality bait

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao what? What does the AK and STG even share in similarities besides a vague silhouette and both cartridges being squashed dog shit?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are simply uninformed, or alternatively you're the one posting bait, damn it.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What's the point of making new firearm designs?
    We only get one like every 50 years.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they do
    it's boring
    money

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What stops manufacturers from simply taking a proven design like say, an AK, and just slightly altering it to fit a desired caliber?
    Patents. If those patents are expired or don't apply, then there's absolutely nothing, which is why everything "new" in the last 50 years has been an AR or AK derivative. The AR and AK themselves used design ideas from earlier guns, too.

    >why reinvent the wheel?
    To make something better. We've pretty much converged on the optimum firearm with current technology, which is why everything new looks virtually the same as everything else new.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't they stop making automobile with the Model-T?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Toyota Corolla was the pinnacle of car evolution.
      Prove me wrong.
      (inb4 scotty shill)
      I REPORT ALL HIS VIDEOS FOR MISINFORMATION AND MISLEADING TITLES.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cheap
        >Reliable
        >good availability of cheap spare parts
        >most of the wear parts just bolt on/off and aren't a 53 step process.
        >oh hey look I need a rear wheel bearing, I can buy one from the dealership for $260 and it bolts on with 4 bolts easier than changing rotors and calipers, but in the meantime I'll do the other one and the rear brakes and the shocks and it only takes me 2 hours in labor
        Nah, you're right.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Soooo true. Owned one of these bad bois like 7 years ago. Easiest car ever to work on. But hurricane after-floods managed to rise up 4 ft unbeknownst to me and flooded the engine.
          Also recommending you skip dealers and local parts stores and just use rock auto online instead (if you don't already)

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    since this is the thread for stupid questions by noguns, how fast acting were Agent Orange, Purple and so on? You dropped it onto the trees, but how fast would they lose their foliage?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The gun I bought online looks shittier than it did in the photos. Besides cleaning-out the shitgrease in the trigger, is there anything that can be done to unfrick this?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That is kind of what happens though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which AK derivative is that, second from right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Muzzlebrake suggests 74.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The AK has been continuously improved on for the past 70 years because it's a shit design that needs constant modernizing to keep up with the weapons systems of other militaries.
    AKs were only ever popular because they were cheap. Now that they cost 2-3x as much as an AR-15, there is no reason to buy one unless you really want a shit outdated design that's hard and expensive as frick to replace parts for.
    The AR-15 is the perfect weapon because it's cheap and standardized to the point where most things just work. You don't have that with an AK.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There has been litterally no significant improvement in firearm technology since the 60's.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      source

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the AK has an entire industrial city to manufacture it and requires massive steel sheet presses
    newer designs are made in smaller manufacturing processes

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP, this what your first firearm will probably look like

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Presumably this is the new stupid questions thread. Is there a better way than doing 3/4 turns with an allen key for 2 minutes? There has to be something better.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you may be noguns but you're ahead of all the argays who are slowly realizing stage by stage that mistakes were made
    when they started suppressing they learned .22 sucks and so does DI ARs, so they made pistons and gave them heavier ammo
    but that ended up sucking too, so they made .300 blacked which is 7.62x39 for ARs

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There isn't one. Every "new" gun is just an AKM, AR-15, AR-10, or AR-18 in disguise. The only new gun designed in the last 10 years is the Textron NGSW, which is actually just a Steyr ACR (designed in the 80s).

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