Stun gun and pepper spray

Is there any benefit to carrying either a taser or pepper gun if I already carry a handgun with me at all times?

Recently had a situation where a family memeber went apeshit while drunk and caused a lot of property damage at my brother's house. We called the police and he got tackled and arrested. He wasn't trying to hurt any person, just breaking shit in anger. Obviously not going to shoot him, but zapping his ass would have instantly made the situation way better while waiting for the cops.

Shitty tasers seem to all be garbage, pic related uses proprietary batteries that seem to fail and only last through one use, and the I don't want a full size taser that costs over 1k.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

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    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i just bought the pom one. less life saving than a gun but a lot more versatile

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I think so. There are a lot of situations (if not most situations) where you don’t actually need or even want to really hurt the person. In the same time in situations like that you could just fight them hand to hand but it depends I guess idk. But yea pepper spray is cheap

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I also want to say that I don’t like it when some people say “if I ever get in a fight I’ll just shoot them!” It’s a very childish, b***h homie, and immature thing to say.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not going to start a fight, and if a stranger starts a fight with me I don't really care if they die or not. fair fights are for losers.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there any benefit to carrying either a taser or pepper gun if I already carry a handgun with me at all times?
    Gives you an option for resolving situations with less potential for legal issues afterwards.

    >Shitty tasers seem to all be garbage, pic related uses proprietary batteries that seem to fail and only last through one use, and the I don't want a full size taser that costs over 1k.
    Unless something has changed the only good options on the market are Taser brand, and they do come with the massive downside of realistically being too expensive to practice with unless you have taxpayers covering your practice costs while requiring you to aim well enough to hit with both probes. And yeah, anything after the old M26 police model (that used 8x AAs) has used proprietary batteries. Anything that requires direct contact is just a shittier knife, and knives are already a terrible option for self defense.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The batteries for the later models are just CR123s in a fancy housing. It's really too bad that there isn't a Taser available at a reasonable price though.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >there isn't a Taser available at a reasonable price though.
        Have you seen the stock in tge last 2 yrs? Lucky I got in @$42/ea.

        https://i.imgur.com/9L2JvLS.jpg

        Is there any benefit to carrying either a taser or pepper gun if I already carry a handgun with me at all times?

        Recently had a situation where a family memeber went apeshit while drunk and caused a lot of property damage at my brother's house. We called the police and he got tackled and arrested. He wasn't trying to hurt any person, just breaking shit in anger. Obviously not going to shoot him, but zapping his ass would have instantly made the situation way better while waiting for the cops.

        Shitty tasers seem to all be garbage, pic related uses proprietary batteries that seem to fail and only last through one use, and the I don't want a full size taser that costs over 1k.

        >and only last through one use,
        The Pulse is MEANT for single use. It delivers a 30sec exposure vs. 5sec of the P26, X2, T7. You are ment to use, drop and run. File a police report and submit tor free replacement (last I knew).
        >t. TASERed 4x ama

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Have you seen the stock in tge last 2 yrs? Lucky I got in @$42/ea.
          ???

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Poking at $200/share. The profit margin on TASERs is ginormous. The body cams are, too. But the data storage (chain of custody) is pure gravy.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you spray the wrong person, you just momentarily blind them and an assault charge

    You shoot the wrong person, it's murder

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have an idea for a new pepperspray gun. Make it flamable so you blind and burn them all at once.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Is there any benefit to carrying either a taser or pepper gun if I already carry a handgun with me at all times?

    > Obviously not going to shoot him, but zapping his ass would have instantly made the situation way better while waiting for the cops.

    Answered your own question, anon. There is zero reason why someone shouldn’t have POM as part of their EDC. It fits in the coin pocket of your jeans, gives you a means to deescalate and control someone and gives you a huge advantage in court, if you do end up shooting them, because you can claim you tried your best to avoid a bullet. You can also spritz someone and walk away, something you can’t do with a gun, without copping a charge.

    POM seems pretty effective, but anything with similar potency and portability is valid. I keep several in my bag and hand them out like candy any time self defense comes up.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There is zero reason why someone shouldn’t have POM
      >POM seems pretty effective, but anything with similar potency and portability is valid. I keep several in my bag and hand them out like candy any time self defense comes up.
      You're actually a shill from the POM marketing department, aren't you.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nta, but you are too cynical. Nonlethal defence/offense is valid.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >valid
          Is your hair blue?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you're asking if i give a flying frick abt what you think, I don't.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I never asked that. Why do all you pronoun people assume people care about you?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mind your own business and stop getting personal with strangers. It's weird.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not as weird as the current social norms. I mean really, who says "latinx"?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Probably just mispronouncing LatrineX.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is that like a chemical cleaner you drop inside?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think you smoke it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I never asked that. Why do all you pronoun people assume people care about you?

            Not as weird as the current social norms. I mean really, who says "latinx"?

            lol what are you on about

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              The state of normality is just odd. What is and is not acceptable is off kilter. Untold years of natural order turned upside down. Double think rules our lives. Kids can't even read an analogue clock and Roman numerals.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Nonlethal defence/offense is valid.
          I didn't say it wasn't, just that than anon specifically came off as a shill for the specific brand they were posting about. I personally prefer the Mace pocket units with the finger groove and flip cover rather than the rotating safety button that Sabre uses on a lot of their models. Only downside is that you need to check the labels since they sell multiple strengths without any indication on the packaging.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >check the labels
            The 2 shown have the exact same parting lines from the exact same mould, likely filled at the exact same production line with different contents, formula and net weights. I figure they're all abt the same. Labels do show slight difference in active ingredient %s.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The 2 shown
              I'm talking about pic related that's sold in 3 finger and full 4 finger length models. As for the difference in strength, they have models with 1.4% capsaicinoids (comparable to Sabre Red) and .66% capsaicinoids marked on the can with no difference in the packaging they're sold in, which is a massive difference. I had to stop at a few different stores locally to find one that carried the 1.4% version.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nonlethal defence/offense is valid.
        I didn't say it wasn't, just that than anon specifically came off as a shill for the specific brand they were posting about. I personally prefer the Mace pocket units with the finger groove and flip cover rather than the rotating safety button that Sabre uses on a lot of their models. Only downside is that you need to check the labels since they sell multiple strengths without any indication on the packaging.

        >mentions POM twice because that’s what I carry
        >”are you with their branding team???”
        Black person, I literally said any other OC spray of comparative potency is fine.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there any benefit to carrying either a taser or pepper gun if I already carry a handgun with me at all times?
    Yeah man, having an option between get in a fistfight and cap a Black person is sensible. Especially given the current legal and political climate, you don't want to shoot someone unless it's absolutely necessary.

    That said, if I only have space for a gun or non-lethal then I'll take the gun. If I'm wearing a winter jacket with big pockets I'll slip some pepper spray into one of them and I've got some spray sitting in my car.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tasering/macing someone is lower impact than shooting them

    It'll be harder for the cops to catch you.

    Downside is that it might not actually incapacite them and now you've got a pissed off Black person coming after you.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Spray them then taze them. Sets them on fire.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never call the cops on your family. Are you white from an anglo background?

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tasers are an absolute meme for civilians, I have a taser pulse because I thought it was cool, I've carried it maybe twice. Pepper spray is absolutely a useful thing to have, especially if you aren't good at fighting or don't want to fight. There are plenty of physical threats that aren't deadly threats and the use case of pepper spray is a lot wider than a gun. No reason not to have a 15 dollar Pom in your front pocket.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's fricked. What did he have to say when he sobered up? b***h ass punk better have offered to pay for all that shit he broke.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spray them then taze them. Sets them on fire.

      OP here. It's was my brother's brother in law. Guy got drunk and cracked a car window and was kicking the car door and started throwing lawn chairs and shit. We tried to calm him down, but he was just too fricked up. Already ordered a can of mace and a belt holster and a pocket sized pom. Still not sure about the taser. Can't seem to think of a situation where I would tase the person, instead of just shooting them. I think mace would have been fine for this situation.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stun gun
    Just bring a rubber dildo, it will be more effective
    >tazer
    Expensive and not perfectly reliable. When it works, it works.
    >spray
    Idk, but it sucks to get sprayed with a lot. Personal experience. Don't use it lightly

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >but zapping his ass
    It's not non-lethal, just less-than-lethal.
    It could still kill.
    The proper response, as shown by the police, was to tackle him to the ground and restrain him.
    Police has tasers too, if that was the appropriate response they'd have zapped him.

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