strange things are happening in the Russian army command, and apparently Shoigu is fucked Posted on May 4, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor strange things are happening in the Russian army command, and apparently Shoigu is fucked
Kek, Russia is truly turning in a full on circus.
Oh god, /rcwg/ really is going to become a reality, isn't it?
There is no fucking way Girkin will live long enough to see that
If they kill the last honest Russian, they kill Russia with him.
>last honest Russian
Girkin was on multiple occasions accused of selling off heavy machinery from Donbass in 2014-2015(it was moved to Russia and he was defense minister of Donbabwe at that time, so he had hand in it for sure). And stealing donations for soldiers in 2022-2023, that gay is not honest at all
Girkin isn't exactly completely honest and has lied many times before. The last honest Russian should probably be Zinin.
denis nikitin still exists
Russia is dead.
As honest as a Russian can be, I suppose.
He not last honest russian, but he is honest. Honest as delusional madman, which speak out and share all his delusions honestly and plainly.
If Girkin took over after a bloody civil war I'd actually be scared of Russia again.
>I'd actually be scared of Russia again
Why scared of it? You're a baltmoron?
Kek. You better worry about what to do with the Ukrainian drones, it has to do with our reality.
>Why scared of it
not him and not scared of it either, but no one has cried >NOOK harder than strelkov
>but no one has cried >NOOK harder than strelkov
Huh? Where? He's against using nukes against the ukraine.
The dude is incompetent. If Russia goes into an actual struggle among the boyars & wannabes (really, really not likely), the CIA, MI6, and Mossad are going to be murdering the ones they don't like while they're still basically bandits, not statemen.
Omsk starting the great trial when?
the text is surprisingly well written
I'd genuinely love a grand strategy game in this setting.
Strelkov is forgotten by everyone, there was his chance when Prigozhin offered Strelkov a place in Wagner, but he did it in a rude way (Prigozhin wanted to piss on his face) and Strelkov was forced to refuse
>there was his chance when Prigozhin offered Strelkov a place in Wagner
how the fuck it was his chance? Prigozhin offered him to be stormtrooper that would be thrown at Ukrainian trench the moment he joined Wagner
>be the person with the most experience fighting Ukraine that Russia has available
>get completely sidelined, told to shut up for doomposting, and inevitably get pushed out a window
I don't feel bad for Strelkov, but I do understand any seething he may experience.
does his head look tiny to anyone else?
Can't wait to see what happens to russian nukes after this
Their previous collapse in the 90s was handled pretty smoothly
Every single relevant power in the world will do all they can to secure those nukes. Absolutely nobody who is currently in power benefits from random nukes spreading across the world. Hopefully the Russians themselves are smart enough to accept blue helmets around their nuclear silos.
>Hopefully the Russians themselves are smart enough to accept blue helmets around their nuclear silos.
A man can dream, can he not?
Russians will sell their mothers for a sensible price, given the chance. If there is nobody to punish some random general for selling the nukes under his command to US he will do that in a heartbeat.
I guess that's a solution too. China and US buying the whole functioning nuclear arsenal so it doesn't end up in Jihadistan, or whatever.
Honestly, all Russian nuclear sites should be destroyed if/when the current state collapses. So long as there is no unified command, they cannot be launched.
That isn't enough to stop a potentially catastrophic nuclear proliferation problem.
R*ssia already lost a fuckton of Hispanicy nuclear material (RTGs), they better not lose actual nukes.
Iran doesn't have to develop anything; they just have to wait.
NATO NEST teams are more than capable of securing whatever 3 digit number of Russian Nikes that have survived 30+ years of deferred maintenance. Tricky problem is going to be other CBRN weapons
just imagine parachuting in, and fultoning out loose warheads.
My buddy, my pal, that's gonna be a 4-digit number. That's a lot of weapons-grade fissionable material. That shit doesn't decay in 30 years. Doesn't fucking matter if they don't have launchers. Doesn't fucking matter if they're unmaintained. The moment you have a critical mass worth of angry rocks unaccounted for, you have A Big Fucking Problem.
wikl be interesting. why should Russia/Novgorod get all the nukes? Russia has also demonstrated it will invade ex-satellite states at will too, so these shithole countries will want to keep nukes
I want to play this game so damn bad.
Yes I know it's not a game but somebody needs to make it.
Why would you choose anyone other than Far Eastern People's Republic, unless there is a timed invasion from some meme faction from beyond the map?
Russia might actually end up nuking itself.
the main argument against nuclear proliferation is that any WMD is infinitely more likely to be accidentally or intentionally used on the country that built the WMD than on the enemy.
Sword of Damocles moment.
There is a real saying
>The Russian army akways wins. And when there are noone to fight they split in two and still win.
A nice hab at always near-civil war in rusdia, 1917 revolution and 90s cope and the realities of russian politics
The best Twilight 2000 setting never written.
im pro russia but the writing here is Kino.
>im pro russia
theyve been very good to my thirdie shithole
They're not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, Bangladeshbro.
Is there a less blurry version?
i sentece you to an eternal alcoholic stare
It's the Miami mutilator!
>when the Russians in Hotline Miami are just the Russian government/state post-Cold War
Its like how one of the whole themes of GTA IV is that the Russians and their KGB bullshit are replacing the Italian Mafia as the premier criminal organization in the world.
Strange things afoot. Hadn't thought Pigozhin would have the brass balls to hire a general to join his outfit, not with Vaginer on the cusp of complete destruction in Bakhmut.
>it's fucking happening
>Vaginer taking over the government
the tens of thousands of glowies and all of Rosgvardiya would soon put paid to his delusions.
Rosgvardia are numerous but spineless. The only ones that would stand up against the brigand king are the FSB and the regular army who must be tired of the bald bonobo getting preferential treatment and getting credit for their work.
One functional brigade will destroy all of rossgvardian sissies.
Guys like them got butchered outside of Kyiv and no one even bothered to bury them. Dogs and birds cleaned them up.
which weapon is being discussed here?
Soldiers are military equipment.
The member we use to rape other men
Sentient weapons made of flesh and bone.
Looks like it's Prigozhin that's fucked by getting saddled with this retard.
circlejerk thread lol imagine supporting nwo
Anon, its either russia/china or america. The alternative is not any better and the world is better off than the "multipolar" world that was the 18-20th century.
Russia China is it then, I do not want to worship morons and fuck trannies
Anon, russia/china literally imports muslims and africans of their own. They also ally themselves with african countries and offer citizenships to them. You obsessing over gays/morons showcased your inability to realize the other side is worse. Terrible economics, terrible trade, terrible diplomacy and more and more foreign wars over territory. Along with placing more emphasis on bringing in more immigrants from africa/asia. You think laws about gays are bad? How about a culture of gays that rapes or solicits you into sex traffic despite the laws saying otherwise? The west, you have a choice. In china/russia, you do not have a choice.
>The west, you have a choice
Good, I chose the side who kills gays and trannies
So, not russia? Russia actively encourages that shit on a cultural level.
>b-but muh laws
Do not mean anything on a cultural level.
Pretty sure they do not.
Yea, I am sure encouraging prison culture on the population is not them encouraging. Along with them being the potential factors in why their HIV levels are high(asode from drugs).
dont play dumb
kek reminds me of that vatnik in /chug/ fully laying bare just how incredibly homosexual the Russian army/prison/mafia culture is BUT ITS NOT GAY OK YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE! FUCKING A MAN IN THE ASS IS NOT CONSIDERED GAY etc lmao. I think I have the screenshot somewhere
It's too late to sugar coat me, the goverment you work for should have done that sooner. Now die fags
>you work for
I do not work for the russian government.
Everyone here know you fags work for dod including janny and mod
What are you trying to play here as? Fellow PrepHoleners?
How would you know that I work for the government? Whats next, going to say that I live in your walls?
Dod would actively shill for russia because thats they thrive off of making russia the big bad. Making russia seem bad/weak is the opposite of what they want because that would mean less money for the defense budget. You scream shills, but do not realize how they do their shillings.
This is the biggest retarded shit I have heard. It was in news that dod is spending up to billion for Internet propaganda. This site has severes in california and main mod rapeape is veteran.
No shit this website is swarming with feds who are being trained in online shilling such as you.
The amount of spells mistakes shows you are malding, quite possibly even seething.
Im not, just slightly drunk. Had sex with your mom
>you will never have your balls obliterated by a petite little girl
life is Hell
Anon, the dod would not make their enemy seem weak. You do realize america actively hypes their enemies up? Unlike China/russia where they actively downplay their enemies. The dod shilling campaign would result in the DOD in shilling russia's capabilities rather than downplaying them. If they don't, they wouldn't have enough justification to keep their military budget close to a trillion.
My logic here is that they need to downplay Russia strength because right wingers would join them
Flawed logic because america's way of seeing things is always on the pessimistic side. They have to hype up their enemies to prepare for the worst and also justify the defense budget. If they don't, congress will cut their fundings and the DOD will have less money than they do before
They show congress the truth and people lies. You do not need average Joe who work in coal mines to know what's happening behind doors. To make Russia look weak in people eyes will make people like russia less.
No, it will make people think russia is not a threat, retard. Making your enemies weak is a good way to trick uour population into thinking they are not a threat. Congress gave the DOD funds because of how much of a threat their adversaries are. If they are not a threat/weak, congress will cut those funds. Percieving russia as weak is the opposite of what the military and the DOD wants.
Then why the fuck do they spend so much resources into online shill campingto make look Russia weak.
They don't? At best, they just create fake accounts on Facebook to boost enlistments. Majority of their shilling campaign is mainly ads for people to join the military. They rarely directly talk aboht what adversaries they are facing in the ads, but they always assume their enemies are powerful and competent. Making russia weak is the opposite of what the military wants because it will reduce fundings.
I want proof from someone who works in dod. My assumptions are always correct
>an institution would rather risk their annual fundings just to appeal to classical liberals/libertarians
Anon, they prioritize money to keep their shit going. Appealing to a political spectrum is below their priority list.
Bullshit, no one will cut fundings because poop people became weaker. Usa is global superpower with lots of military bases across world. The money needs to be constantly pumped in to keep status
Anon, they literally cut fundings after the collapse of the USSR and also during the obama administration.
You're trying to trick me
Does this take in inflation?
>percent of GDP
I do not understand the chart all I know usa has more weapons than 20 years ago
Percentage of GDP means how much of their GDP they are willing to spend on the military. After the cold war, the fundings dropped dramatically from 8% to 3-4% right now.
Okay since you are not angry little man and you arent calling me names I trust you
Yes, if the U.S. were to have the same fundings as it did in the cold war, they would be having an annual budget of 1.7 trillion dollars per year.
Don't they have 7 trillion or something? Or did I misread some news?
No, the U.S. is spending like 842 billion for its defense budget this year, which is like 3% of its GDP.
Thats pretty rough, sorry ameribro.
Uhh no? What's bad about it? it should be 5% of GDP as far as I'm concerned.
Inflation would mean that even if the US budget is nominally bigger, it's in fact less than they used to spend
The Seawolf program was slashed all the way down to three, and two of those were essentially bailouts for the MIC because the sub companies were completely dead without that contract. They still downsized so much that there are echoes of it to this day. The old farts that were too senior to be laid off back then are finally retiring, bringing the average experience level of the workforce down by over a decade. The Soviet Union collapsing was the worst thing to happen to military spending since the end of WW2.
I'm English and just hate Russians. Feel free to post the thousand butthurt about Churchill memes.
>it was in news that dod is spending up to billion for Internet propaganda
Kek holy mother of esl. What are you, paki? brazilian?
shit and this whole time I've been shitposting for free, where can I collect my check
Notice how the man from the USSR is always standing in front of the Asian one? How he is slightly taller? That's puccian "friendship" for you.
Fuck off there right now.
unipolarity is the worst of all
No, not worse than multipolarity that the russian and Chinese envisioned(although their versions of multipolarity is essentially unipolar in a way)
Hey, the only losers in that scheme are the irredentist shitholes who don't want to play ball.
Fuck off. The best choice is to burn off the garden gnomes and then deal with the chinks later. Russia barely has enough population for HALF the fucking land they have. The chinks can't play an away game for shit. Just burn this shit down and start fucking over.
Guys, what happens if Russia truly is fucked and somehow overextended? Is Putin just gonna snap and hit the big red button if he can’t have Ukraine?
Putin doesn't have a big red button to press.
Don’t they still have nukes? Even a Cold War era nuke would really kick the hornets nest of NATO
Real life is not a fucking cartoon m8
I don’t mean fucking literally hit a big red button. I mean would Putin get desperate enough to just launch nuclear weapons because a loss of this magnitude could undo everything Russia has built on in the past decades?
You silly little child, the launch decision is not his alone.
>just launch nuclear
He literally cannot do that.
Launching nukes isnt done by anyone pressing red button. It requires sizable political will and power. Unthinkanble for it to be used in an offensive war where ukraine is not stepping foot on russian soil and therefore not threatening their existence
They don't have functional nuclear warheads. Even the US's strategic stockpile's in a pretty shitty state. If it's not on a plane or in a submarine, it's only got about a ~40% chance of working correctly. Now make that a fraction of a fraction of that percentage for the Russians.
I hope so. It would certainly make things interesting.
how would a respected russian officer, a man born in the ussr, follow the orders of this dude
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Wagner is going to be a Ukrainian unit fighting against the Putinites by this time next year.
>Prigozhin hires some guy who got fired from the MoD
>"Shoigu is fucked"
Not necessarily an ideal situation for ol' S.S., but "is fucked" seems like wild hyperbole.
Heh my boy Shoilingz
Well, since the thread got killed and this is a Wagner themed thread, I guess I might as well share what Anon made here so that it may live on.
>apparently Shoigu is fucked
His stockpile of carefully curated woods will keep him safe.
1917 SPEEDRUN LETS GO
more spring offensive not actualyy happening kraine!!!!
I bet many have already asked similar questions, but how do we know Wagner will actually leave on may 10? Maybe this is a psyop?
Utkin is still around?