The UK has once again opened the floodgates.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html
Storm shadow missiles to Ukraine!
The UK has once again opened the floodgates.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html
Extremely common British W
Do we really need this thread again? What else is there to discuss?
Fuck off warriortard
with what platform to launch them?
Su-24
Don’t be surprised when tornados show up in Ukraine
>t. Knower
Does Germany have something that does the same? If so they will follow.
*doubt*
Germany doesn't have anything to replace them, too long until F-35 is delivered.
>Does Germany have something that does the same?
Yes, TAURUS. I am certain that they will not give it to Ukraine , as its range exceedes 300 km.
krauts will only send shit after everyone else has and then pretend as if they were the first.
Completely and unironically, germany is a better ally to russia than belarus.
German Leopards were delivered before anyone elses did and then, after plenty of other nations backed down on their promises, Germany sent even more.
Also Germany sent iris-t and bongs haven’t sent any air defense
Doesn't matter who sent what, what counts is that it kills Vatniks.
Wrong it completely matters. The most important allies who sent the most useful stuff are as follows
1. US
2. UK
3. Germany
4. Poland
Except that Germany sent only trash. Poland took even in refugees.
Well US support will probably be gone end of next year so the other countries better step it the fuck up.
it won't
>inb4 Trump/DeSantis said
they say that shit every time elections are running
Not a trump/desantis thing. It’s just a normies don’t understand what’s happening and will get bored of it. The general understanding I hear from friends family and coworkers is either. 1.why are we sending Ukraine billions in cash! We should be building roads! (Misunderstanding what a billion dollar aid package means). 2. We’re leaving ourselves defenseless against China! (Misunderstanding the sheer scale of the US military industrial complex and the budget). 3.Russia dindu Biden illegal war.
It all boils down to people fundamentally misunderstanding this is (mostly) existing equipment and forgetting why our military budget is so big (to kill Russians, though moreso Chinese these days).
correct and these people will vote for whichever retard will promise to bring an end to it only to do nothing about it
same thing happened with Trump in 2016 and all his talk about pulling out of Syria
You’re probably right. I’m just getting a little paranoid how deep the rot has gotten.
>What is lend/lease?
>How hard is it to get congress to change laws?
>This anon may never know
Where did I imply l was clueless about lend lease. I was describing people who are clueless about lease.‘changing laws? You realize each of these aid packages are their own individual thing? They dry up. There isn’t a “gibs Ukraine everything forever” law. I swear to god this board is the most obsessed with taking everything as being a shill of some shit.
>It’s just a normies don’t understand what’s happening and will get bored of it.
When have normies being tired of a war ever affected US involvement besides Vietnam? We don't even have troops over there.
the correct response to that bullshit is that the US should in fact be doing far more, as indeed should the UK arguably under the budapest memorandum there was a commitment to direct action to defend ukrainian territorial integrity and there is certainly an obligation to provide any aid needed to defend the territorial integrity of ukraine.
so morally the choices are, give them everything they need to defend themselves and fuck the bill, or give them the fucking nukes back, or equivalents. Russia MUST be punished for violating its solemn treaty and the USA/UK must fulfill their own obligations or their word on a treaty is fucking meaningless.
hesitation to do so is driven by penny pinching and moral cowardice.
Bongs sent air defence immediately before the invasion and have supplied 1000's of missiles.
Germany has sent more stuff than everyone else, except USA and UK.
Facts, Vatnik.
It appears Germany isn't at all friendly with Russia.
Poland has sent far more than Germany, gay.
>Poland has sent far more than Germany, gay.
I really don't get this. Is this some elaborated Vatnik ploy to drive a wedge between Germany and Poland?
You know it's not true. I know it's not true. You know that i know it's not true.
You know that shitty state of the art air defense system worth gorrillions euro will not make a difference, 300tanks and hundreds of other vehicles will make a difference
He's not a Vatnik for pointing out a German flaw, retard. Yall throw that word to anyone lol
Germany was restricted to send anything good when it was on oil supply, but whence they signed a deal with Arabia they started to support Ukraine well.
Do we know what happened to the Bong Tornados?
all got scrapped iirc
the polish Mig-29s that were just delivered can fire them
Italy has IDS Tornados that are being phased out. Maybe they could send some, considering how hawkish their government is currently being
You can't know your dick from your ass cheeks.
Nah, Ben Wallace (UK def sec) said the two main reasons we haven't seen Storm Shadow in Ukraine already are:
1. No Offensive was in sight and using them without an objective would be pointless
2. Integrating a 4/5th gen missile on a 2rd gen Soviet or Russian plane has taken some time
I think it's safe to say we will see these on SU24s.
See picrel.
Russia had in place both their S400 along with a Tor and some Pantsirs. Meanwhile Syria had been given the latest version of the S300 and upgrades to its Buk systems, which could be networked into the S400 system.
The result speaks for itself, Russias about to get fucked.
>See picrel.
The funny thing is russians claimed two out of three Storm Shadow Missiles were taken down, and the last one didn't detonate and they captured it for reverse engineering.
Don't worry about it
Su-24 or Su-27
I’m sorry StormShadow
I'm sorry StormShadow.
I'm sorry Storm Shadow.
Say it with me, no ammo supply points within 350km of the front
The UK is godly
Combine hatred of Russians, imperial nostalgia and internal British dick-swinging and you get the perfect mixture to arm the fuck out of Ukraine.
t. perfidious Anglo
>t. perfidious Anglo
Gotta say that taking russian money for decades (Londongrad, Brexit, etc) only to later to cut ties with Russia and avoid paying back the favours at the first chance (thanks to Ukraine) has been one of the most hilariously scummy things conservative brits have ever done.
Henry VIII would be proud.
Is there something in the water in the the islands? I feel like even immigrants show up there and start to get ideas about the old empire.
Way too much limestone, for starters
if you only had the foresight of not saving the vatnik asses in WW2 and letting the two cunts kill themselves while you (and burgers) sharpened the axe for the final culling of the victor
euro would be a very different place right now
based bongs
Frog or Argie detected
You got caught samefagging
Yes I'm samefagging
And I'm going to keep samefagging
And there's nothing you can do about it
Fucking based
S-samefag?
Kingshit
How can one man be so based?
Now this some good shit
Based
Ah, so this is why there's so many slide threads today
You’re in one
Because there are actually things happening in Ukraine.
it's 8am retard, gotta have my coffee before I start dunking on gays like you
>samefagging is organic if I do it!
>four new posters since my seethe
>they must be samefagging
This is the power of cope, never underestimate it
Not that it’s tolerable but samefagging is much better when it’s being used in the correct direction
Guy on the right has over 20 confirmed shootdowns using the starstreak
Something I've heard from an AA subject knower is that russians usually fly recon drones above 6 km altitude which puts them outside regular manpads. That's why UA asked for lmm and starstreak because they fly further. They are mostly used in anti drone capacity, which isn't interesting for videos and in which saclos isn't as much of a problem
None of this can be substantiated. Ukraine said the starstreak is the premier MANPADS on the ground for all threats
May I see where the country of Ukraine said that
I'm sorry Starstreak.
I'm sorry Imm.
Starstreaker of Kiyv, shot down a gorillion banans
S-400 will shoot this junk down easily
It's not a question of shooting down, it's a question of being able to detect them
What is the first place to have a weird smoking incident ~200km's from the frontlines?
Arming locals to fight your enemies is Britian 101
So you're Ukrainian command now with a 250km cruise missile range. What do you you hit first?
Liverpool
>late to the party
>amp link
op is gay confirmed yet again
prigozhin, the fuck has completely ruined my chinese spyware feed
some gay russhit glowie building in Sevastopol to prove a point
They very likely got a list of targets with the missiles. I would work that list that most likely includes hardened command posts, communication knots and depots for bottleneck material.
Kerch bridge
Black Sea "fleet"
All at once, as quickly as possible:
>supply bridge into Crimea
>supply ships into sevastapool, preferably so they block the docks in the worst way possible
>Most expensive warship in sevastapool
>fuel depots in the harbors and airfields of Crimea
Tldr starve them out
>44 replies
>16 posters
why are threads talking about british weapons in general always this organic?
Almost as organic as Germany vs Poland threads.
>pic
lee doesn't patrol these parts anon
It's so bizarre when newfag shills act like people replying to the same thread more than once is some sort of gotcha
It is when it happens consistently in every thread
Reminder this what European pizza is. The leaves just make it so fancy and delicious! Much better than pepperoni grease and layers of cheese!!!
Uh, unironically yes?
That’s a garbage pizza. Inferior to any slice by every metric
>pic of my favourite pizza
absolutely based and pizzapilled
looks good anon
sorry buddy, I'm Irish and even I can happily recognise that despite the Norn Iron flustercluck, the Brexit disaster, the political circus, royal family nonsense etc etc, the way the Brits have been responding to the war in Ukraine is based and they have my respect for helping a country justly defend itself.
Its the least they can do after decades of taking Russian oligarch blood money to prop their financial sector
You seen the Russian tsunami nuke vid? We're in this together this time Seamus
Also no one here gives a shite about Norn Iron, I'd give it you back tomorrow if I had the power, only problem is those paramilitary nutjobs
>We're in this together this time Seamus
good, it wasn't right for us to stay out of Second World War, and it wouldn't be right to stay out of the Third.
>Also no one here gives a shite about Norn Iron,
ah there's no easy answer there, obviously we want the island whole again, but those loonies up there can't be civil because god forbid Shinners get a crumb of power. But they can't even cooperate with Westminster and have been throwing their cake on the floor rather than trying to have it and eat it so there's no helping them
Why is it that the UK can just send shit willy nilly but the US and Germany have barging and agree to send shit. Really make them look like punks.
US and Germany are just better. Why send anything that has war ending potential. The longer the war drags on the more the US and her allies win
>implying these shipments arent coordinated with the rest of NATO behind the scenes
>The rest of NATO
Lol who gives a shit what anyone besides the US thinks, says or does?
In Germany the pacifists are very strong and it took a lot of work to overcome them
The UK would not send significantly different weapon capabilities without clearing it with the US first. The UK might raise the prospect initially, but they would not just go ahead and do it.
The US is concerned about escalation getting out of control. They would also prefer if Europe led on this one, and then the follow up later with mass once it's the new status quo.
When you consider the world view Germany had prior to invasion they are now doing quite well. Germany got caught out when the invasion happened, loudly stating it was never going to happen. They have had their world view proved completely wrong and have had to adapt. The country which is truly not pulling it's weight is France.
France doesn't make their donation numbers public because they don't want muh multipolar thirdies to seethe too much. Plus France is into that multipolar stuff too, just not with Russia as one of the poles but USA/EU(france)/China instead.
France likely had to approve Storm Shadow since they co-developed it.
>France is into that multipolar stuff too
Especially so after the AUKUS plot, I'd imagine. Real true colors moment from the Anglo sphere/Five Eyes.
>USA/EU(france)
ideally this is what they want
but it will be de facto
>NATO / China
instead, because the yuro alliance sucks
AUKUS wouldn't be a thing if France hadn't overpromised their shitty SSPs
AUKUS would be a thing because Boris was a balls out PM who had Macron ignoring migrant boats leaving France for the UK, threatening to cut off electricity to the Channel islands and support ingredients illegal French fishing in UK waters. (not to mention he was ignoring the warning signs in Ukraine) so Boris looked around and decided to take the most valuable defence export in their history.
If russians jammed HIMARs missiles, why would it work on SS?
The reason russian jammin wasn’t effective in HIMARS is because HIMARS has INS. Accuracy degrades to a 6m CEP but that’s more than enough to wreck targets. Storm shadow has INS as well
>INS
What's this?
la migra
Please explain, I'm a weapon specialist.
Inertial navigation system
>Pizza was invented in the US as a take on Italian food
And child obesity was invented in Italy as a take on American society
lol
lmao
hah
Did the agents get open windows afterwards for getting tracked and caught like that, or just medals from Monke?
>looks like KKK hood
Ukranazis confirmed
could it be?
Just a smoking accident
Don't worry about it
I think it is
>despite this being more than likely a warriortard thread
It's exactly what Storm Shadow was made to do, so yeah, chances are high
This is what happens when you threaten to flood the isles with nooks lol
No, this is what happens when you Novichok a bong.
Poland at seventh position.
Germany and Netherlands beats UK if you take their EU budget contribution into consideration.
Fucking Japan beating fucking France!
Jesus Christ, why doesn't that fit my dearly held narratives!
>France doesn't make their donation numbers public
Sure, Frog.
might want to look into who's funding those "EU institutions" that are keeping the ukrainian economy afloat - hint, it's Germany, France and Italy funding almost all of it
That is literally what i wrote, idiot.
>Germany and Netherlands beats UK
Lol
Lmao
"Financial loans to rebuild"
"RCH155 to be delivered in 2030"
Shut the fuck up that's the EUs way of coping that the UK has made them look like a joke since the start
Has there been any delicious copes from the vatnik side yet? Preferably something else than twitter posts from nobodies?
Was Boris Johnson actually asked to be governor of Odessa or was that just a meme? I think he should have done it if only just for lulz. Ukes love him
Someones got to because no one here loves Tories atm
Only thing about UK in relevance to this is that foreign policy is fairly bipartisan. Even though Rishi lost massively in recent local elections (-1000 seats) and will lose the next GE almost guaranteed, our foreign policy will most likely remain the same
TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO
Any chance other nations start sending cruise missiles too? Seems like everyone waits for the bongs to break the taboo before risking it themselves
The USA has said no for now
I don't know about the French
Given the USA has said no, I doubt the Germans will do anything
Nobody else operates cruise missiles in significant number, so they'll be keeping theirs to themselves or have to send such a ridiculously token number (like, a literal handful) that it would be next to meaningless
Frogs will probably send some, maybe Germs too.
krauts already pulled a "well the US isn't sending so we aren't" not too long ago, there's every chance they'd do it again
Perhaps Sweden could
already destroyed *~~
I heard they found traces of boris johnsons semen on this
>we've destroyed your missile by intercepting it with a repair depot
>checkmate khokhols *~~*~~)