Gun not needed, and probably too complicated for the average soldier. Stoner already achieved perfection with the AR-15 (despite all its early flaws) and modularity is mostly a meme (still is to this day). It doesn't stop the Stoner 63 from being super cool but the fact that it didn't get a wide adoption makes sense when you think about it. The AR-15 and AR-18 derivatives already exist and make the job fine.
Too complicated, and the modularity wasn't particularly worthwhile on a mass scale. They did their time with special operations groups, the special operations groups whittled the modular designs down to "short belt fed assault rifle" and basically stuck with that, letting the rest of it's formats get pruned out.
Didn't the marines try that with the IAR program recently? Basically tricked the MOD into replacing all their rifles with what they pitched as a Light Automatic Rifle option?
Yeah. Iirc the IAR program was initiated to replace the m249's. After it got approved the marines just said "o were keeping 10,000 of the m249's and giving the rifles to every marine, thanks bye"
Didn't the marines try that with the IAR program recently? Basically tricked the MOD into replacing all their rifles with what they pitched as a Light Automatic Rifle option?
Explain how a 30 round mag competes with a belt fed system
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because it's competing against beat-to-shit m249s being run without an assistant gunner. 200 rounds on tap followed by a real world 15-20 second reload doesn't really get you more uptime than 30 rounds and a 2-3 second reload.
Didn't the marines try that with the IAR program recently? Basically tricked the MOD into replacing all their rifles with what they pitched as a Light Automatic Rifle option?
Yeah. Iirc the IAR program was initiated to replace the m249's. After it got approved the marines just said "o were keeping 10,000 of the m249's and giving the rifles to every marine, thanks bye"
Furthermore, whats the point of replacing the squad LMG with a rifle thats essentially same as all the other rifles in the squad
Checked, but it was really just a trick. You can't consider infantrymen carrying a few more 30 round mags machinegunners, even with an heavy barrel 416. A machinegun is belt fed and preferably has a quick change barrel, there's no way around it, any other solution is cope.
Gun not needed, and probably too complicated for the average soldier. Stoner already achieved perfection with the AR-15 (despite all its early flaws) and modularity is mostly a meme (still is to this day). It doesn't stop the Stoner 63 from being super cool but the fact that it didn't get a wide adoption makes sense when you think about it. The AR-15 and AR-18 derivatives already exist and make the job fine.
Might sound ghey but it was my main in Black Ops 1.
Wish it had caught on more irl so we could maybe have some today.
Too complicated, and the modularity wasn't particularly worthwhile on a mass scale. They did their time with special operations groups, the special operations groups whittled the modular designs down to "short belt fed assault rifle" and basically stuck with that, letting the rest of it's formats get pruned out.
>TFW we'll probably never achieve the "every soldier is a machinegunner" meta
So close yet so far.
Didn't the marines try that with the IAR program recently? Basically tricked the MOD into replacing all their rifles with what they pitched as a Light Automatic Rifle option?
This?
Yeah. Iirc the IAR program was initiated to replace the m249's. After it got approved the marines just said "o were keeping 10,000 of the m249's and giving the rifles to every marine, thanks bye"
Gottem
Explain how a 30 round mag competes with a belt fed system
because it's competing against beat-to-shit m249s being run without an assistant gunner. 200 rounds on tap followed by a real world 15-20 second reload doesn't really get you more uptime than 30 rounds and a 2-3 second reload.
>reddit finger
Furthermore, whats the point of replacing the squad LMG with a rifle thats essentially same as all the other rifles in the squad
Checked, but it was really just a trick. You can't consider infantrymen carrying a few more 30 round mags machinegunners, even with an heavy barrel 416. A machinegun is belt fed and preferably has a quick change barrel, there's no way around it, any other solution is cope.
Marines hated them for the same reasons they hated the AR-15
Seals hated them because they would break
the concept is silly for a service rifle
No sauce
Also the higher ups fricked with the M16 because they were salty at it replacing M14.
what's the UGL on the top rifle config?
Too big brain system for those who thought m14 is modern enough
Too autistic for the American army. They should have tried marketing it towards the Germans or Swiss.