Counting % is funny, but does anyone know what is the critical position they need to secure to gain advantage? Is that some specific highway section, railroad or hill?
The two remaining routes out for the Ukies are the road North-East via Khromove and South-East via Ivanivske. The Russian's have tried and failed to secure these roads, but have had limited fire control over parts of them; which is where the images of blown up hummers came from about a month ago. The roads themselves are all lined with trench networks which have been producing lots of infantry kino recently.
The main Ukie positions remaining are in the concentration of high-rise blocs in the centre of their remaining territory. This has been fortified heavily because it gives the Ukies terrain advantage with overwatch on all sides. Basically they've created arty killboxes on the approach to these blocs, with infantry cleaning up the rest. Probably why the frontline in the city itself hasn't really moved much in the past week.
Bakhmut literally, unironicaly has no actual strategic value beyond the fact that taking it would mean a lot of Ukranians died in the process defending it.
They need to cut off whatever remains in Bakhmut from supply or push them out completely. Otherwise the Ukrainians will forever be able to sit in an easily defended position taking a favorable ratio. Since the Russians lack the ability to properly take the routes into Bakhmut without a corresponding response to immediately stop them, they are forced to continue trying to dislodge the Ukrainians directly while taking massive losses.
There's no way that Ukraine retreats from Bakhmut before the Victory Parade, even if they do it later.
This is a political/propaganda fight as much as a real one in the field. They must be commited to deny Putin any victory
And do what? Bakhmut isn't Kiev, Karkiv, Odessa or even Mauriopol. That it's taken so long to capture it is an outright embrassment for Russia, and its not going to collapse the UA either.
Eh, gotta think about foreigners falling for it too. A lot of normies/out of the loop people I know in the US are convinced that Bakmut is some highly pivotal super strategy location and losing it is basically GG.
At this point, it is completely out of Russia's hands. If every single shell Russia has was directed to Bakhmut right now, they wouldn't be used in time to win. Bakhmut isn't going to be taken before the parade.
Nah, that is the symptom of internet addiction. Normal people have no contant with trannies in reality, so only people conditioned on the internet get so butthurt about them
I never saw a chud in my life before, but around PrepHole, i get bombarded with that shit daily
They're more common if you go to places they frequent. I've been to a couple of LGBT-associated bars and clubs, you'll see a few of them. On the other hand in more conservative areas of my city you never see them at all, they only go out late at night or just jump in their car and floor it to more friendly parts.
I live in the suburban NE and there's several you see on a weekly basis, not even the same people. It's real, it's just a matter of how much people are willing to acknowledge it, how much they're willing to see it as an issue, and honestly the flavor of chud they have to suffer around. Believe it or not most of them aren't the unironic groomers who *do* want to come for your kids. But those ones *do* have a bullypulpit in culture right now, and they're loud about their weird shit. To pretend the chud thing isn't real or that there aren't absurdly strange people being loud about shit that is pretty weird is as disingenuous as pretending their presence is a sign Western degeneration of society beyond salvation.
It's not that the truth is somewhere in between, it's that the truth in this case is obvious but there'll always be those who have to pretend it's all just normal and fine or not a big deal for a variety of reasons. So we have an issue, but the "everything's fine" demo creates false-equivalences about "both sides" in order to cast is as a just another nothingburger culture war political football.
It's unironically made worse by vatmorons. Their constant "well the globohomo trannies" shit makes people in the west reflexively embrace it if only to counter-troll. Meanwhile a very, very obvious facet of why so many thirdies find the West le bad right now is *because* of the zoomed in cultural focus the West has developed for things most of the non-western world still think are just outright degeneracy. I'm not particularly concerned with ordering my society to please thirdies, but it's still a point that seems to be slavishly overlooked.
tl;dr the chud thing is real, it portends nothing of what tankies and vatniks claim, but to handwave it away as being fake and gay culture war shit is just as disingenuous. Doing so gives room to the actual chud weirdos that push shit that lots of people internationally look at and think >"nah fuck the west."
I work in the Russian military complex and one of my coworkers is a chud, he got a mobilization notice and decided that he wants to work on a factory now
>Normal people have no contact with trannies in reality >I never saw a chud in my life
You guys ironically shoot yourselves in the foot with this belief because the passing ones go right past you without you noticing because you refuse to believe they exist. This mindset makes about as much sense as Nazis merely looking for whoever has a big nose. Actually it's a very apt analogy because I've seen racists many times make friends with people who they didn't realise were garden gnomes.
It's really unfair, since I live in a liberal shithole but I've seen some m shit. Hoo boy, I've seen some shit.
I saw a mother filming her chud son dancing in a grocery aisle.
It has a stupidly outsized presence online. But that is more an indication that 4chan spends too much time on twitter and discord interacting with these retards instead of leaving their fucking house.
There's a few trannies in my town. Suburban but just outside of NYC so still liberal hellhole, flyover types would probably consider it urban. But the trannies I see walking around are dressed like literal prostitutes, lace shirts and garters and shit, when they're just going about their day, shopping or whatever.
In my city, lenin was removed and placed like 70m away across the road near wall. Butthurt commiescum party was notified right away about his location, so they can pick it up and place wherever then want. Its been lying there for over a year until communal services moved it to garbage dump.
I always get out of the loop when vatniks say artemovsk. I always think there is like another village like vuhendar and bakmut, where they are bleeding dry
>blyat! we are being attacked! >launch the counterattack!! >silo opens >missile raises to launch position >brrvmmmmmmm >missile starts spinning >makes that clunking noise >missile spins the other way
Would would happen if Ukraine bypassed those initial settlements instead of fighting for them? Send a blitz straight south, encircle the settlements, then send lesser units to pin them after.
If someone told me a year ago that the most hyped up event for Russia would be the capture of a fucking small city in 2023 i would have laughed at him for being a complete retard. But here we are giving up Kherson for this shit, a win is a win i suppose?
They could pull a Stalingrad and encircle Bakhmut during the counter attack. The Germans controlled 90% of the city at one point before they got cut off.
>They could pull a Stalingrad and encircle Bakhmut during the counter attack. The Germans controlled 90% of the city at one point before they got cut off.
Unlikely as the Russians have actual units and defense there. It's everywhere else they can't defend.
It’s strange that this war has turned from a one sided conflict to a battle of theory in which one has the technology and industry of the first world and another has a population and moral attitude to keep sending people into a meat grinder. It’s probably going to lead to Russia choking itself to death or some wonky apotheosis of a new system of governance that no single analysts could have predicted like AI worship or something.
>tfw remembered that wiped out Russian unit that had Rescue Rangers unit patches
If Disney made a propaganda piece in russian where Gadget is dressed like Marichka and calls the russians microdick suka pidors, how bad of a morale blow would it be?
...it's fucking Zipper, isn't it? What the actual fuck Disney, that's disturbing on a Cronenberg/Kafka level.
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Yep, she canonically got her little mouse womb filled with slime covered maggots. To be a fly on the wall when the Gadget cult found out
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>To be a fly on the wall when the Gadget cult found out
Honestly, they probably never found out because basically everyone on Earth immediately forgot the movie ever existed.
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I just imagine she got bot fly'd and it popped out the side of her not the womb.
Stupid versetner! Sta... Bakh... Artemovsk, is legally captured! Paulusov will be finish the pockets of resistance in two weeks, and then, Ukraine will surrender!!1! Nothing can go wrong!
Ruskies throwing everything they can at Bakhmut reminds me when I've played poker, had shitty cards but I've bid high, my friend started outbid me so I've kept pouring all my chips despise I knew I'll lose.
They sperg about their terms for negotiation process like taking Odessa and "keeping" Kherson lol. So many garden gnomes work on their propaganda channels tbh.
Yeah yeah yeah but consider the following : >You will never be sexually molested by a young Republican girl after she threw you up against the wall while her cute friend covers you with a rifle
>"They don't need lamps in their yurts, cause they started shining brightly"
I still cackle to myself when I remember those fucking apes dug trenches in the FUCKING RED FORREST and had to abandooon the position because they all got radiation poisoning.
>He succeeds, they can claim they manged victory despite the odds against them >He fails, they can claim they never were given a fighting chance
Perfect win win for Wagner, really.
You think they'll still report it completely taken tomorrow?
>MFW Ukraine announces withdrawal from Bakhmut 5 minutes after the parade ends
>MFW Ukraine launches their counteroffensive during the parade
They've announced that they've taken it almost 10 times now, anon.
If tomorrow means two more weeks the yeah.
Counting % is funny, but does anyone know what is the critical position they need to secure to gain advantage? Is that some specific highway section, railroad or hill?
no one knows anymore
wtf the russians hired Sakuraba?
They need to cut the main supply road.
The two remaining routes out for the Ukies are the road North-East via Khromove and South-East via Ivanivske. The Russian's have tried and failed to secure these roads, but have had limited fire control over parts of them; which is where the images of blown up hummers came from about a month ago. The roads themselves are all lined with trench networks which have been producing lots of infantry kino recently.
The main Ukie positions remaining are in the concentration of high-rise blocs in the centre of their remaining territory. This has been fortified heavily because it gives the Ukies terrain advantage with overwatch on all sides. Basically they've created arty killboxes on the approach to these blocs, with infantry cleaning up the rest. Probably why the frontline in the city itself hasn't really moved much in the past week.
> which have been producing lots of infantry kino recently.
Link some pls
id say not being in Bakmut would be a good start
Bakhmut is all just churned earth toiled by explosives at this point, splinters of trees and buildings.
The bathroom has yet to be seized. Rumor is it has Kemoore washer, most valuable Bakhmut treasure.
Bakhmut literally, unironicaly has no actual strategic value beyond the fact that taking it would mean a lot of Ukranians died in the process defending it.
They need to cut off whatever remains in Bakhmut from supply or push them out completely. Otherwise the Ukrainians will forever be able to sit in an easily defended position taking a favorable ratio. Since the Russians lack the ability to properly take the routes into Bakhmut without a corresponding response to immediately stop them, they are forced to continue trying to dislodge the Ukrainians directly while taking massive losses.
>Russia still hasn't taken Bakhmut post office
There's no way that Ukraine retreats from Bakhmut before the Victory Parade, even if they do it later.
This is a political/propaganda fight as much as a real one in the field. They must be commited to deny Putin any victory
in the past 6 days they've only captured a few blocks. no chance they capture the rest by May day at that rate
It doesn't work like that, i.e in a linear fashion. There's always a tipping point. Any any point there could be a collapse.
Well you know, the Russians could always just lie, and say tomorrow that it's completely taken.
Maybe throw in "apart from sporadic fighting from left behind stragglers" to make the lie more believable.
And do what? Bakhmut isn't Kiev, Karkiv, Odessa or even Mauriopol. That it's taken so long to capture it is an outright embrassment for Russia, and its not going to collapse the UA either.
Eh, gotta think about foreigners falling for it too. A lot of normies/out of the loop people I know in the US are convinced that Bakmut is some highly pivotal super strategy location and losing it is basically GG.
I remember when shills were crowing about how Bakhmut would be taken in time for the February 24th anniversary. And yet, here we still are.
At this point, it is completely out of Russia's hands. If every single shell Russia has was directed to Bakhmut right now, they wouldn't be used in time to win. Bakhmut isn't going to be taken before the parade.
Nah, that is the symptom of internet addiction. Normal people have no contant with trannies in reality, so only people conditioned on the internet get so butthurt about them
I never saw a chud in my life before, but around PrepHole, i get bombarded with that shit daily
I have seen 2 in the last year, and I live in a city supposedly full of them.
They're more common if you go to places they frequent. I've been to a couple of LGBT-associated bars and clubs, you'll see a few of them. On the other hand in more conservative areas of my city you never see them at all, they only go out late at night or just jump in their car and floor it to more friendly parts.
>If I go to fag bars in the center of a major metropolis that has millions of residents you'll see more fags
Well no shit
I live in a town of 20k and 4 work at Walmart
I live in the suburban NE and there's several you see on a weekly basis, not even the same people. It's real, it's just a matter of how much people are willing to acknowledge it, how much they're willing to see it as an issue, and honestly the flavor of chud they have to suffer around. Believe it or not most of them aren't the unironic groomers who *do* want to come for your kids. But those ones *do* have a bullypulpit in culture right now, and they're loud about their weird shit. To pretend the chud thing isn't real or that there aren't absurdly strange people being loud about shit that is pretty weird is as disingenuous as pretending their presence is a sign Western degeneration of society beyond salvation.
It's not that the truth is somewhere in between, it's that the truth in this case is obvious but there'll always be those who have to pretend it's all just normal and fine or not a big deal for a variety of reasons. So we have an issue, but the "everything's fine" demo creates false-equivalences about "both sides" in order to cast is as a just another nothingburger culture war political football.
It's unironically made worse by vatmorons. Their constant "well the globohomo trannies" shit makes people in the west reflexively embrace it if only to counter-troll. Meanwhile a very, very obvious facet of why so many thirdies find the West le bad right now is *because* of the zoomed in cultural focus the West has developed for things most of the non-western world still think are just outright degeneracy. I'm not particularly concerned with ordering my society to please thirdies, but it's still a point that seems to be slavishly overlooked.
tl;dr the chud thing is real, it portends nothing of what tankies and vatniks claim, but to handwave it away as being fake and gay culture war shit is just as disingenuous. Doing so gives room to the actual chud weirdos that push shit that lots of people internationally look at and think
>"nah fuck the west."
I work in the Russian military complex and one of my coworkers is a chud, he got a mobilization notice and decided that he wants to work on a factory now
>Normal people have no contact with trannies in reality
>I never saw a chud in my life
You guys ironically shoot yourselves in the foot with this belief because the passing ones go right past you without you noticing because you refuse to believe they exist. This mindset makes about as much sense as Nazis merely looking for whoever has a big nose. Actually it's a very apt analogy because I've seen racists many times make friends with people who they didn't realise were garden gnomes.
>the passing ones
Come on bro
As I said you're undermining your own cause.
My brother is my sister now
Hot
It's really unfair, since I live in a liberal shithole but I've seen some m shit. Hoo boy, I've seen some shit.
I saw a mother filming her chud son dancing in a grocery aisle.
It has a stupidly outsized presence online. But that is more an indication that 4chan spends too much time on twitter and discord interacting with these retards instead of leaving their fucking house.
I live in Seattle. I've so been to Portland, Austin. Go to any major urban center. You mean there's no trannies in irrelevant backwaters.
>I never saw a chud in my life before
I have seen many, because I am young, just out of college, and this is true even outside of shitlib strongholds
There's one in my seminar for computational logic, I wish I was joking. Guy even has dyed hair like in one of those wojak edits.
There's a few trannies in my town. Suburban but just outside of NYC so still liberal hellhole, flyover types would probably consider it urban. But the trannies I see walking around are dressed like literal prostitutes, lace shirts and garters and shit, when they're just going about their day, shopping or whatever.
Just like a real girl!
The musicians are not leaving and they will continue playing the tune.
Artemovsk will be taken accordingly
IT'S MAY 8 ALREADY, CUMRAD
I WANT ARTEMOVSK NOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOW!!!!
ILL SEND IN THE SPETZNEZ ILL SEND IN THE VDV ILL SEND EVERYTHING IN MY POWER
>Artemovsk
>Lenin strangulated
what did they mean by this?
That they are ready to join the civilized world.
Every time this gif is posted I click on it and have a good laugh
The webm with sound is even better, the cable makes a nice sound when it hit the end of it and then SNAP.
I also saw some ziggers reposting it recently claiming it was le NAZI Ukroz trying to erase their heritage.
source on audio version?
Literally the second result if you type
>Lenin statue decapitated
into garden gnomegle.
I love this gif, they were just trying to remove it, but it's almost like that wasn't enough so fate intervened to have it obliterated instead.
In my city, lenin was removed and placed like 70m away across the road near wall. Butthurt commiescum party was notified right away about his location, so they can pick it up and place wherever then want. Its been lying there for over a year until communal services moved it to garbage dump.
>Lenin, but trans.gif
I always get out of the loop when vatniks say artemovsk. I always think there is like another village like vuhendar and bakmut, where they are bleeding dry
Because even though Bakhmut is easier to spell, pronounce and write, Vatniks insist on using le russian name out of spite
Not “Russian”, but outright Bolshevik one.
>The musicians
Do you even realize how cringe you fucking russ gays sound?!
It's kinda amusing when the "musicians" are little more than a pile of rotting corpses.
Well you're right in that they're not leaving. Can't leave when you're dead.
>The musicians
Picrel
>they will continue playing the tune
This is now the thread theme.
Hobbits: getting fucking ganked by fucking barrow wights like a bunch of pussies
Tom Bombadil, on his way to be OP as fuck:
Aaaxaxaxaxaaa
>The Musicians
Found the gay with a picture Solovyev in his shed/toilet/bedroom flanked by candles and cheap chinese made Orthodox crosses.
I propose to replace it with fantasies about how a bodybuilder girl rapes a trance.
inb4 Russia gets nuked since their early warning radars don't work
>unsuitable foreign-made components
It's rubber bands and controller chips from washing machines isn't it?
Of course that’s why glorious leader Putin was stealing them.
>blyat! we are being attacked!
>launch the counterattack!!
>silo opens
>missile raises to launch position
>brrvmmmmmmm
>missile starts spinning
>makes that clunking noise
>missile spins the other way
>No one dies because the warhead expired in 1995
also Melitopol is only 80km from the front lines, and there are no major waterways in the way
Would would happen if Ukraine bypassed those initial settlements instead of fighting for them? Send a blitz straight south, encircle the settlements, then send lesser units to pin them after.
Re-enactment of Russian invasion where Ukrainians overextend and fucking die.
>what would happen if russia bypassed the initial settlements instead of fighting for them and just drive to kiev?
If someone told me a year ago that the most hyped up event for Russia would be the capture of a fucking small city in 2023 i would have laughed at him for being a complete retard. But here we are giving up Kherson for this shit, a win is a win i suppose?
Still plenty of work to do
I wonder how long this qt will live
it will make a nice mosque
the age of man is over
Wait I thought Russia was the saviour of the white race? Zisters, whats going on?
What is this from?
Mariupol
Russia will still proudly parade over Moscow as they have pratically captured the city and so call it a day
*legally, not practically
>still got 10% of Bakhmut to go
Bakhmut is proof that Zeno's Paradox is real.
But the parade is tomorrow?!
>Russia takes 99% of Bakhmut
>Ukraine launches the counteroffensive
>By the time Russia takes the last 1%, Ukraine is at the outskirts of Melitopol
They could pull a Stalingrad and encircle Bakhmut during the counter attack. The Germans controlled 90% of the city at one point before they got cut off.
>They could pull a Stalingrad and encircle Bakhmut during the counter attack. The Germans controlled 90% of the city at one point before they got cut off.
Unlikely as the Russians have actual units and defense there. It's everywhere else they can't defend.
>Unlikely as the Russians have actual units and defense there.
Reconstituted VDV, just deconstitute them again lol
Reminder that Puccia has a bit more than 24 hours to take Bakhmut by the end of V-day
>celebrate defeating an entire nation by taking one small town that they have been fighting over for over half a year
Yes. What else are they supposed to tell on TV?
Maybe broadcast a looping clip of a gay rape? Russians seem to enjoy that
It’s strange that this war has turned from a one sided conflict to a battle of theory in which one has the technology and industry of the first world and another has a population and moral attitude to keep sending people into a meat grinder. It’s probably going to lead to Russia choking itself to death or some wonky apotheosis of a new system of governance that no single analysts could have predicted like AI worship or something.
age of Gadet is upon us brothers!
Do they know about a new movie?
How many furries had this mouse instantiated I wonder…
I don’t even find her hot any more.
But I *did* when that shit was on TV as a pubescent kid.
*incessant buzzing*
The real reason Russia had enough and went crazy. Was Putin a gadgetfag?
>tfw remembered that wiped out Russian unit that had Rescue Rangers unit patches
If Disney made a propaganda piece in russian where Gadget is dressed like Marichka and calls the russians microdick suka pidors, how bad of a morale blow would it be?
Probably result in a wave of shilling worse than when the Moskva got sunk
I mean shit dude the movie already had get get the BBC (big bug cock). I'm not sure they could do anything worse.
Disney already fucked with Gadget to spite the Russians by making her canonically race mix
With what, a black mouse or a black guy? Because the latter seems difficult due to proportions...
With a fly
...it's fucking Zipper, isn't it? What the actual fuck Disney, that's disturbing on a Cronenberg/Kafka level.
Yep, she canonically got her little mouse womb filled with slime covered maggots. To be a fly on the wall when the Gadget cult found out
>To be a fly on the wall when the Gadget cult found out
Honestly, they probably never found out because basically everyone on Earth immediately forgot the movie ever existed.
I just imagine she got bot fly'd and it popped out the side of her not the womb.
A fly.
a literal insect
The best PsyOps that I've seen so far.
Seems legit
Don't underestimate Russian propaganda or how retarded and short-sighted people can be.
Stupid versetner! Sta... Bakh... Artemovsk, is legally captured! Paulusov will be finish the pockets of resistance in two weeks, and then, Ukraine will surrender!!1! Nothing can go wrong!
Anybody got that picture with Bakhmut next to Kiev?
In 2 weeks and 6 days, Bakhmut will be the longest battle in human history.
not even close
Ruskies throwing everything they can at Bakhmut reminds me when I've played poker, had shitty cards but I've bid high, my friend started outbid me so I've kept pouring all my chips despise I knew I'll lose.
That's being pot committed. For a dictator like Putin they can't walk away without eventually getting couped by their subordinates.
I listen to the Russian state propaganda they keep talking about some negotiations . What negotiations, did I miss something?
It's russian propaganda, are you unironically expecting something coherent?
They sperg about their terms for negotiation process like taking Odessa and "keeping" Kherson lol. So many garden gnomes work on their propaganda channels tbh.
No of course not, but painting Ukraine as the bad guys is imperative for the Russians.
I hope they start negotiations but only after Moscow looks like Bahmut.
>russia won the longest battle in military history
this will be part of the new cope strategy.
Just a few weeks more and bahkmut will have been ongoing for longer than Verdun.
What will be the next city if they do manage to take Bakhmut?
Moscow
Next?
According to /chug/ and Russian telegrams Ukraine and the front will collapse after Bakhmut.
>just checked /chug/
Damn is /chug/ just a general cope board for vatniks and tankies?
Is Russian Mod going to garden gnome Prigiozhin out of ammo again lol?
>Is Russian Mod going to garden gnome
Have they ever stopped?
So let me get this straight. Tomorrow is May 9th and Russia STILL hasn't taken Bakhmut?
Indeed, I'll celebrate May 9th with blasting video related on full volume all day
This one too. Really nails the "catchy and annoying as shit" trait that would drive people crazy.
For me it's the previously little known Ukro-Irish Alliance.
>Irish are the original military thot peddlers
Typical tbh, I wonder how little per round she went for back then, and I don't mean the gun
Yeah yeah yeah but consider the following :
>You will never be sexually molested by a young Republican girl after she threw you up against the wall while her cute friend covers you with a rifle
>age restricted for roasting the moskals too hard
>"They don't need lamps in their yurts, cause they started shining brightly"
I still cackle to myself when I remember those fucking apes dug trenches in the FUCKING RED FORREST and had to abandooon the position because they all got radiation poisoning.
Weren't they supposed to take all Donbass by the end of March 2022 by Putin's order?
There's still a chance! lol
>He succeeds, they can claim they manged victory despite the odds against them
>He fails, they can claim they never were given a fighting chance
Perfect win win for Wagner, really.
Probably all pre arranged political theater
What happened to all that old partisan weapons he found in the salt mine, wasn't thereenough to arm a million Russians.
>tfw you might actually live long enough to see russia take bakhmut
Wagner MUST capture Bakhmut in the next 24hrs to spare Putin's blushes.
Nothing is happening anons 🙁
I want my happenings
Have you tried no being a dopamine addicted spazz?
It's Over
POCCNR got upset monke didn't get his banan and chimped out again.
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1655744640375504896