Why do special forces/sof tend to be special snowflakes when it comes to their uniforms? You see them wearing old uniforms that went out of regulations or gucci uniforms like crye or whatever.
Special forces uniforms
Why do special forces/sof tend to be special snowflakes when it comes to their uniforms? You see them wearing old uniforms that went out of regulations or gucci uniforms like crye or whatever.
nobody is immune to ego, it just so happens to manifest in metrosexualism
becaues for their entire career in the special forces they have been told that they are, in fact, daddy government's special little snowflakes.
At least some countries' special forces have the freedom to pick whatever they want together from available military and civilian stock, from mission to mission.
>freedom
It really depends on their command. Even none special forces units are pretty lenient about their uniforms. Although that won't stop some officer getting up your ass about your shit being out of regulations.
never underestimate the importance of style OP
>posts on PrepHole
It was always too late.
Part of their job is testing uniforms and equipment. You can even find guys wearing multicam mid-Iraq.
You also see some of them wearing modified DCUs too where it has calve pockets.
>"NOOOO you have to use the same uniform an obese latina admin clerk uses because...YOU JUST DO, OKAY?"
Anon, even active duty soldiers wear those uniforms too. Also, desk clerks are most likely going to wear put of reg uniforms than those that are in active duty lol.
its the obese latina with the fat bootys who do the heavy lifting in the Army btw. your gay little special needs operations wouldn't happen without shenquia doing the paperwork for it
Thank you for chiming in and thank you for your service Shenquia, I wish you continued success on your weight loss and/or body acceptance journey
Imagine coming home from the ukraine kicking in doors from behind enemy lines to have some fat Mexican chuck who barely graduated with her psychology degree from CSU who put ranks you because of it, tell you in broken English you’re getting a complaint drafted against you because you wanted higher quality pants while out running drones dropping grenades and the Wagner/Russian army civil war
But she don’t wanna hear it becau she also out here strugglin need no man with her and her baby boy, you know because the commissioned officer pay, food stamps and child support don’t go too far she can barely pay for her Mercedes
So true, saw this vid yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMHaHwcAPaw
and thought what a tragedy it is to see this future officer's career nipped in the bud
Yeah that just really proves what we need is more Hispanics in this country it will really make everything better
And keep making them police officers and put them in positions of authority yeah working out great
FAT
>And keep making them police officers and put them in positions of authority yeah working out great
That's actually based as it'll get blacks to eventually hate Mexicans and declare illegal immigration racist.
Beaners have low empathy, aztec blood.
Look at this fat retard thinking his opinion is worth a shit. A fatass shouldn't complain about other fatasses.
>logistics win wars
>just not the kind I like
I'll thank a ice cream boat driver/ Taco Bell trailer pilot for their service eons before I give a shit abt glorified fitness trainers who do the combat equivalent of a canned hunt
Get rid of the warriors and replace the entire army with logistics jobs and see how well that goes for you
Give the enemy supplies in convinient locations
Replace the entire army with Special warfare operators. They can base their whole identity around messing with dead bodies and then write whole sagas about running away bc they an LMG with no air cover. Its p funny any way you do that
Spec ops guys can easily take over fake arcrylic nails sgt. lafontasha “nuh uh bro I ain’t crawling on the groun” jackson’s desk duty
Get rid of the logistics jobs and replace the entire army with warriors and see how well that goes for you
I also don’t see the point of valorizing warriors, I’m a simple guy who loves classic movies like Saving Culinary Specialist PFC Ryan
Muh trve warrior tradish of shooting a bush til the birds strafe it 20 minutes later. Basically modern day Achilles bro real trad shit
>combat equivalent of a canned hunt
well put. fuck those fairys
>I love logistics
>I hate the poor saps that need those logistics to live and kill
You're asking combat arms to put themselves in danger and get shot at, blown up, and kick in doors and rush in without stopping to look. Blow a little smoke up their ass. They're the ones dying, might as well give them an ego boost while they risk it.
I would be entirely for the logistic fags sharing the burden of casualties and losing a few teeth to earn their medals, eventually hardening into a logistian/soldier hybrid who don't need no meathead.
Special Forces personnel are given more leeway to select the best equipment for their mission.
It would not make sense to have a highly trained and capable group of warriors and tell them " No you can not wear M81 Woodland Camo for this mission . You have to wear the big Army UCP ACU like everyone else. "
Because they finagled themselves special deployment rules where they get to pretend they aren’t in the same army everybody else is to soothe their fragile “pipe hitter” egos. Gotta get special bases within the big base nobody else gets, different guns, private gyms, attached units of whores, and more to conduct basic ass battle drill 6 air assaults at night like an 11b30 couldn’t do.
T salty
If you’re in the military and not in Socom or a pilot you are a welfare recipient
FO
Tik tok challenge for ppl with no marketable skils: take naps in an uncomfy bed for 6 months in exchange for 50 years of gibs
a damp welfare recipient is still a welfare recipient
Exactly. I see the majority of the US military as a vast jobs program for our countries biggest losers and fuck-ups.
Yeah, I wouldn’t put it that harshly, but I’d rather thank an auto mechanic or chef for his service at an airport than a dude with free lifelong health insurance.
>attached units of whores
Wut
Its sof privilege.
But I want the booba
Female engagement team (FET, or ‘fucking every tabber’)
*combat arms
T infantry
>*combat arms
No dude, absolutely not even a chance. You'd rather be treated like a child who can't handle metal scissors for your whole career than expose yourself to the possibility of failure?
Post tab
>Non-SWAT cops are fat pussies
>Oh yeah?? Prove you're a SWAT cop
I acquired marketable skills and ended up with a real career. If I didn't I'd post a pin or keep my mouth shut (ASVAB 99, maxed PFT, stopped by MEPS record request when I was 19). Now that I type that I guess I'm probably being a dick because I'm bitter about my contract not working out, but I honestly believe that if you're in infantry you need to take a hard look at yourself and let go of whatever beliefs are keeping you stuck in an objectively mediocre lot in life.
>stuck
Oh I got out to hit grad school on the gi bill, the peacetime army sucks, and it still sucks according to my friends who stayed (or got out later) and went to group.
>let go of whatever beliefs
Deliciously ironic
>Not a welfare recipient because I was in combat arms
>Joined infrantry with a college degree, sat around during peacetime, and got grad school paid for
Brother! No shame in accepting welfare, just don't pound your chest about it.
>Deliciously ironic
Feel free to call me objectively mediocre, but it'll have to be objectively mediocre MD
Let him be anon. The ordnance maintainets look upon the stupidty of the average grunt and despair that gear is going out to these retards. Still not as bad as the 0302s making stupid policy decisions in my field despite not knowing the difference between a pair of PVS-31A or PVS-31D, or that the 0331s turned the brightness and contrast all the way up on the PAS-13D V(2) and are having trouble seeing out of them, or the 240B top cover was made out if aluminum to save on weight so now when they throw it open it starts forming tiny ass cracks on it rapidly (policy dictated to cater to grunts), or explaining to grunts that using baby wipes that leave moisture on their guns will lead to rust if they don’t wipe the moisture off afterwards, or how any thermal that some idiot has to look at the sun with gets a burn spot in it, or how apparently the gain being too low with daysight covers on isn’t the issue with being able to see chem lights but it’s the laser filter we put in because grunts have a tendency to shine lasers in to nightvision…the list goes on and includes super glue in guns and widdling (yes, widdling) firing pins out of wood and claiming it was issued like that.
Combat arms can get really retarded due to the low barrier to entry, but when you get somebody who gives a shit and pushes for improvement that’s when grunts are actually worth something. Your average one? Pretty much just there to ride out the contract
if a grunt actually has drive to improve themselves then why are they still a grunt
Because being a grunt is the best job in the military. You're not a dumbass for doing the job you want to do.
>Salty pleb was too pussy to try selection
It really isn't "the same army". SOF train foreign militias and create proxy forces. SOF do recon and direct action way behind the enemy lines and they do it for a lot longer than infantry do a patrol base.
Regulars fight big battles. SOF does little things that add up. And are you really surprised that they don't want to share their very nice gyms with immature, gross and retarded privates?
Regular infantry units did all that shit in Afghanistan. Our neighboring SOF base was only slightly nicer than ours but they did get better chow.
>It's another episode of contrarians seething about SOF
It initially was due to SF being absolute pros to the extent that there wasn't any use in applying standard military doctrine, this is also why the are allowed beards. As experts they are allowed to choose what they think is best for the job. SF was kinda a weird geeky oddball element of militaries for some time. They guys who use alternative or outside the box approaches to solving military problems.
This came from the SAS, who most western SF are based off, heavily influenced by or descended from. They also do not call officers 'sir' and have a fairly flat hierarchy when it comes to planning. Newly selected recruits are expected to contribute and everyones opinion is listened to. This is in common with many other SF
During the war on terror it morphed into the steroid abusing bro culture and became a way is separating the 'special' from the grunt.
I wish I was like him
Despite 670-1, the commander determines the Uniform of the Day and authorized modifications for the mission.
You can wear your SOPMOD uniform on the mission, but walking around garrison or main post is going to get noticed by other units, like the garrison comnander
Mossad here, we don't really stand out.
Yeah, look at these fashionistas
That's what the navy boat guys wore too.
God look at these disgusting latinx pussies hahahahaha
That was because the jeans were more durable, didn't get snagged on vegetation and they had a zipper so leeches wouldn't get in.
This thread turned into a shitshow, but whatever. I spent most of my career as a SF or SOF enabler. Basically no I was not a super hardcore dude with a gorillion kills but I got attached to task forces that were and went along for the ride.
A lot of fancy non-standard uniforms are issued to these guys. The Gucci Crye stuff or the various plate carriers. Can come in a variety of patterns and colors. These units also get sent free uniforms and gear by companies simply for the photo op value of the guys wearing it.
As for why the dudes wear some of the free swag or buy some and wear it, yeah fashion is a big part. The military is huge on conformity. Jumping into a special unit a big ego boost and yeah guys want to swing their ducks about flaunting regs. Same deal with facial hair. There are a few good reasons to have facial hair or longer head hair, but the real deal is that often special people grew beards simply because they could, and used the realistic rationales as a fig leaf.
Sometimes it’s a practicality thing. In the regular military, if you get issued a shitty jacket then you suck it up. In a special unit, you find or buy a better one. People don’t give you shit because you’re an adult who can wear a better fitted jacket and do your mission a little better.
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Sometimes uniforms are dictated from above. The OP picture is a MARSOC guy. At the time MARSOC guys were wearing Woodland as their deployed uniforms. A lot of DriFire gear specially for them, but also a lot of classic uniforms. The purpose, stated at least was to make them not stick out too much from the ANA. That dude in the photo isn’t exactly low profile, but a lot of ANA dudes wore all kinds of crazy accessories too. As for stuff like his pimped out rifle giving him away, yeah it wasn’t meant for close observation but like if an insurgent 100 meters away was looking with iron sights, hopefully he couldn’t pick out the MARSOC guys instantly. At the very least it really didn’t have a downside so why not?
>These units also get sent free uniforms and gear by companies simply for the photo op value of the guys wearing it.
If those uniforms get damaged, can they contact the company to get free replacements?
I dunno. I guess it depends.
I don’t have any uniforms but I’ve got all kinds of wacky shit that got sent to me. Does anybody remember the FAST magazine? Not the ITW FASTMag, but the big thing that was like a magazine to hold your magazines? I’ve got one of those. I can post pics. I met the owner/inventor once. Super nice guy. No clue what people in combat needed from gear.
Two reasons:
>They are given big boy rules, so they can wear what they want
>Comfort and reduced bulk
>They think it looks cool
#1 is the biggest reason. SF is given a lot of independence to accomplish their missions.
I think a big reason is since there's a lot fewer of them it's easier to cater to their specific preferences.
Eagle RRV.
Absolute patricians choice. Fucking early GWOT eagle gear is GOAT. All these gays running around in Ferro Concept and JPCs can fuck off.
I think it's important to understand that if you have an "elite" unit that's 110% GETTING SHIT DONE, you don't fuck with them. If they want to roll with 70s camo and shoot everyone with an obrez, you fucking let them do that.
When they finally fuck up and get rolled, you can build a new unit and respec.
This ls true for all industry though, when I was an auto mechanic in high school we had a meth head that would make the company a fuck load of money, he’s told up replace the dash of a car and do engine swaps disappear for days on end come back and knock out more work in a few hours high as shit
They just let him
When I worked in a machine shop the guy that designed all the parts, did all the sales and manufacturing of the elite product would be on his phone all day they let him
Anyone else if you took your phone out of your pocket to rest it on the table to climb on a ladder that was a write up