I can see it now, this is going to be the ERDL vs Woodland of the future. 95% of people are going to call it OCP and Multicam interchangeably and it's going to piss off the camo collector autists (some of which are yet to be born) a lot.
Speaking as someone who has worn both uniforms in combat, I can confirm that not a single person in the entire military gives a fuck about the differences between crye multicam and Army scorpion. It's all OCP in the military, and anyone who says >but acktchually
confirms themselves to me as a autistic neverserved. Nobody gives a fuck.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>It's all OCP in the military, and anyone who says
No, it isn't lmao. The military strictly says you have to wear OCP and even be autistic if they see you wearing crye multicam. The only exception are those that are loose when it comes to uniform policy, but that won't stop people outside your unit from calling you out for wearing things outside of uniform policy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
After 2018, the military told everyone to stop wearing multicam and switch to OCP. They definitely care if they have to make a policy like that.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>It's all OCP in the military, and anyone who says
No, it isn't lmao. The military strictly says you have to wear OCP and even be autistic if they see you wearing crye multicam. The only exception are those that are loose when it comes to uniform policy, but that won't stop people outside your unit from calling you out for wearing things outside of uniform policy.
I have met NUMEROUS old salt NCOs and senior officers wearing their old multicam uniforms on the regular including at a change of command ceremony last month and not once did anyone give a shit. The only thing it does is let soldiers make a quiet mental note that dude got issued multicam and deployed to the sandbox at some point in mid-late 2010s
>pattern is too big
OCP is actually pretty good. It actually blends in with grasslands/woodland better than crye multicam. Crye multicam is too bright in green areas.
LMAO that multicam is bleached AF bro and I say that as a hyper stealth fanboy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>bleached
Its not bleached, just faded as fuck. Crye multicam was only available in flame resistant ACUs and those type of ACUs often fade after a few washes.
1 month ago
Anonymous
zoomers are so coddled they don't know washing clothes fade the colors
>Bleached >To whiten by sun exposure or chemical process.
Are there really this many retarded boomers out there that they don't know what bleached means? There's nfw. Got to be gen a false flagging or ESL chinks.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Are there really this many retarded boomers out there that they don't know what bleached means?
ASVAB-waivered retards generally don't get much smarter or more literate with age.
1 month ago
Anonymous
zoomers are so coddled they don't know washing clothes fade the colors
>women
Sort of puts a dent in your faith in military decisions that pictures of your favorite camo have fucking females in them, one of them visibly exhausted despite their face camo being fresh.
Absolutely true.
M81 was/is very restricted with effectiveness,regarding the environment.
MTP/MultiCam is effective across ,any differing environments.
It’s basically an acceptable balance between; forest/desert/scrubland/MOUT/CQB etc etc
The real benefit of multicam/OCP/MTP/whatever other knockoff is for your kit not your clothes. it more or less works everywhere which means you really don't need more than one set of webbing, pouches, etc. and a quick dust of rattlecan goodness will shift it one way or the other in 5 minutes.
They were wearing multicam before OCP was a thing and a lot of their gear is Crye, who invented multicam. OCP only exists because the DOD is too cheap to buy multicam on a large scale and decided that an earlier prototype was basically OC. In a similar case, the bongs paid Crye to make uniforms in MTP for their marine units, which must leave a weird taste in their mouth to make shit in a pattern that was created to infringe on thier IP.
>too cheap
More like they don't want their patterns to be legally bounded by a private company. Crye multicam was a placeholder camo for Afghanistan until the military found a camo they can adopt in their own name. Although crye still does get contracts every now and then.
They wear generally want they want and they need to stick out from norms for combat. So they were wearing what everyone Is wearing now,but the switched back to keep identified and it's still just personal preference of the team or squad or whatever semantics you want to use.
Shoes, helmets, vests, guns, everything is pretty much their choice.
The units that see combat are professional athletes. They could easily have been NFL, Mlb, hockey, mma, soccer players. They are genetic freaks usually who have insane levels of endurance, coordination and pound for pound strength.
When they get out they are so used to having to consume 8000-10000 calories a day just to stay around 140-165 lb 5'10 range they explode to 200+ lbs.
This leads to pieces of shit fat redneck's thinking off rotation special forces who chunk up are what special forces look like. And they say dumb shit like "well they need to be a little chunk" >He's just like me!
Oh yeah. Anyways guys like mike vining in his prime was 130 lbs shrek was huge around 190 6'3, Kyle was 180 when 6,2 operating
Some special forces go guerrilla style and disguise in plainclothes. There is a lot of crossover between guerrilla warfare and special forces tactics. This is Delta Force dressed as Afghan civilians out innawoods.
Some hippie complained about this, but the Afghans did the same thing. Without context, someone could claim this photo is just the Taliban. Could be CIA / Delta Force or it could be those Afghan insurgents trained and armed by the CIA. Hmmmmmm, weird to think about. Fellas don't know bout that caravan.
>Since invading Afghanistan in 2001, the United States has spent $2.313 trillion on the war, which includes operations in both Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Dang, that's trillions with a T. Thanks the USS Liberty incident, we know the zionists value the life of one American soldier killed at about $700k.
Anon, thats basically 100 billion per year, which is mainly just military shit ranging from maintenance to operations. WW2 was more expensive with it being 4 trillion in 4 years.
Don't think it accounts for the heroin and oil profits as well. Definitely weapons sales.
My point is that the zionists see even the lives of American soldiers as expendable, an expense, like on a balance sheet. Let alone American lives, let alone the lives of the children and Christians of Palestine.
Including our own zionist government, which sacrifices our countrymen for their own selfish interests. When you understand the betrayal by our government that was the post-9/11 wars, the armed anti-government front sparked by the veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan makes a lot more sense.
All i see is schizo ramblings. I've seen your argument in another thread before it was deleted. The point is Afghanistan is not as expensive and we spend more on healthcare/social security each year than 20 years in Afghanistan. This all seems like a cope for isolationism. Which never works.
You do realize even those "selfish" interests can still benefit the country from its economy and also developments too? Not everything is about zionism and often times it can benefit the country through hard power or soft power. >When you understand the betrayal by our government that was the post-9/11 wars, the armed anti-government front sparked by the veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan makes a lot more sense.
Most anti government militias are never serves.
Because they can. If you like something and you can do it, why not just do it? Camouflage pattern matters very little to doorkickers. It matters very little to anyone other than theorycrafting nerds on the internet.
It just werks. Simple as.
But OCP is better
Shit looks the same.
Ocp is more greener and the pattern is horizontal.
They are easily distinguishable.
only difference is the vertical bits. can't even see it in op's picture.
OCP has large, less defining spots than multicam does along with the hue being more green than brown/white.
it's the same shit, come on now
I can see it now, this is going to be the ERDL vs Woodland of the future. 95% of people are going to call it OCP and Multicam interchangeably and it's going to piss off the camo collector autists (some of which are yet to be born) a lot.
Speaking as someone who has worn both uniforms in combat, I can confirm that not a single person in the entire military gives a fuck about the differences between crye multicam and Army scorpion. It's all OCP in the military, and anyone who says
>but acktchually
confirms themselves to me as a autistic neverserved. Nobody gives a fuck.
>It's all OCP in the military, and anyone who says
No, it isn't lmao. The military strictly says you have to wear OCP and even be autistic if they see you wearing crye multicam. The only exception are those that are loose when it comes to uniform policy, but that won't stop people outside your unit from calling you out for wearing things outside of uniform policy.
After 2018, the military told everyone to stop wearing multicam and switch to OCP. They definitely care if they have to make a policy like that.
I have met NUMEROUS old salt NCOs and senior officers wearing their old multicam uniforms on the regular including at a change of command ceremony last month and not once did anyone give a shit. The only thing it does is let soldiers make a quiet mental note that dude got issued multicam and deployed to the sandbox at some point in mid-late 2010s
>camo collector autists (some of which are yet to be born)
Those future autists are finna get a post-partum abortion by cop fr fr no cap ONG!!!!
>OCP is less green
>OCP more green
Or the other way around? Which one has the vertical bits?
Ocp has more prominence in green than multicam. Multicam does have green, but its more brown/light brown with some green.
hah!! you were all tricked into arguing over modern art!
The right one will look exactly like the left one after washing it a couple of times
Not really, the green hue is still there along with the pattern being large/horizontal.
if you have autism
Even if you're not Autistic, its pretty distinguishable.
True.
OCP is trash. Pattern is too big. It's multicam at home.
MTP is decent. Basically multicam with DPM style pattern.
>pattern is too big
OCP is actually pretty good. It actually blends in with grasslands/woodland better than crye multicam. Crye multicam is too bright in green areas.
LMAO that multicam is bleached AF bro and I say that as a hyper stealth fanboy.
>bleached
Its not bleached, just faded as fuck. Crye multicam was only available in flame resistant ACUs and those type of ACUs often fade after a few washes.
>Bleached
>To whiten by sun exposure or chemical process.
Are there really this many retarded boomers out there that they don't know what bleached means? There's nfw. Got to be gen a false flagging or ESL chinks.
>Are there really this many retarded boomers out there that they don't know what bleached means?
ASVAB-waivered retards generally don't get much smarter or more literate with age.
zoomers are so coddled they don't know washing clothes fade the colors
In full daylight, yeah. Then when you go innawoods you stick out more, particularly in the shadows.
>women
Sort of puts a dent in your faith in military decisions that pictures of your favorite camo have fucking females in them, one of them visibly exhausted despite their face camo being fresh.
No.
not military
Damn your faith is fragile. Some girls are just ugly. That's alright by me.
I thought multicam was the gooderest camo ever tho?
Multicam is a pretty good camo and even better than the m81.
Absolutely true.
M81 was/is very restricted with effectiveness,regarding the environment.
MTP/MultiCam is effective across ,any differing environments.
It’s basically an acceptable balance between; forest/desert/scrubland/MOUT/CQB etc etc
Yea, its pretty good for what it is and very versatile.
The real benefit of multicam/OCP/MTP/whatever other knockoff is for your kit not your clothes. it more or less works everywhere which means you really don't need more than one set of webbing, pouches, etc. and a quick dust of rattlecan goodness will shift it one way or the other in 5 minutes.
The real benefit to multicam is that its an actual universal camo lol.
It is,across many differing environments.
Hence MTP/MultiCam.
Do good kit companies make shit in OCP that you can just buy? No.
Yes, pretty sure MASSIF make their shit in OCP now.
They were wearing multicam before OCP was a thing and a lot of their gear is Crye, who invented multicam. OCP only exists because the DOD is too cheap to buy multicam on a large scale and decided that an earlier prototype was basically OC. In a similar case, the bongs paid Crye to make uniforms in MTP for their marine units, which must leave a weird taste in their mouth to make shit in a pattern that was created to infringe on thier IP.
>too cheap
More like they don't want their patterns to be legally bounded by a private company. Crye multicam was a placeholder camo for Afghanistan until the military found a camo they can adopt in their own name. Although crye still does get contracts every now and then.
oh my god camo pattern literally does not fucking matter
>t.
no, >t.
>no pocket
ngmi
They wear generally want they want and they need to stick out from norms for combat. So they were wearing what everyone Is wearing now,but the switched back to keep identified and it's still just personal preference of the team or squad or whatever semantics you want to use.
Shoes, helmets, vests, guns, everything is pretty much their choice.
The units that see combat are professional athletes. They could easily have been NFL, Mlb, hockey, mma, soccer players. They are genetic freaks usually who have insane levels of endurance, coordination and pound for pound strength.
When they get out they are so used to having to consume 8000-10000 calories a day just to stay around 140-165 lb 5'10 range they explode to 200+ lbs.
This leads to pieces of shit fat redneck's thinking off rotation special forces who chunk up are what special forces look like. And they say dumb shit like "well they need to be a little chunk"
>He's just like me!
Oh yeah. Anyways guys like mike vining in his prime was 130 lbs shrek was huge around 190 6'3, Kyle was 180 when 6,2 operating
Some special forces go guerrilla style and disguise in plainclothes. There is a lot of crossover between guerrilla warfare and special forces tactics. This is Delta Force dressed as Afghan civilians out innawoods.
My nigga rockin the G3 on the left
Its a 21E. Magfed variant of the 21 gpmg.
Some hippie complained about this, but the Afghans did the same thing. Without context, someone could claim this photo is just the Taliban. Could be CIA / Delta Force or it could be those Afghan insurgents trained and armed by the CIA. Hmmmmmm, weird to think about. Fellas don't know bout that caravan.
>Since invading Afghanistan in 2001, the United States has spent $2.313 trillion on the war, which includes operations in both Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Dang, that's trillions with a T. Thanks the USS Liberty incident, we know the zionists value the life of one American soldier killed at about $700k.
Anon, thats basically 100 billion per year, which is mainly just military shit ranging from maintenance to operations. WW2 was more expensive with it being 4 trillion in 4 years.
Don't think it accounts for the heroin and oil profits as well. Definitely weapons sales.
My point is that the zionists see even the lives of American soldiers as expendable, an expense, like on a balance sheet. Let alone American lives, let alone the lives of the children and Christians of Palestine.
Including our own zionist government, which sacrifices our countrymen for their own selfish interests. When you understand the betrayal by our government that was the post-9/11 wars, the armed anti-government front sparked by the veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan makes a lot more sense.
All i see is schizo ramblings. I've seen your argument in another thread before it was deleted. The point is Afghanistan is not as expensive and we spend more on healthcare/social security each year than 20 years in Afghanistan. This all seems like a cope for isolationism. Which never works.
You do realize even those "selfish" interests can still benefit the country from its economy and also developments too? Not everything is about zionism and often times it can benefit the country through hard power or soft power.
>When you understand the betrayal by our government that was the post-9/11 wars, the armed anti-government front sparked by the veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan makes a lot more sense.
Most anti government militias are never serves.
>plain clothed
One dude is wearing 3 color deserts. Not all of them were wearing civilian clothing.
Yes, they are not unarmed civilians. The idea is that the Taliban would think they are friendlies so they can operate behind enemy lines.
>think they were friendlies
Then why not use m81 woodland? Pretty sure the Taliban were using woodland camos for their military at the time.
I was watching some Ranger videos and I noticed their uniforms aren't the same cut as the rest of the Army.
Yea, some uniforms have different cuts depending on the type/manufacturer.
Crye, pata, etc
Looks like Crye
>why do the organizations that use uniforms from a specific company use the company's camo
Geez I wonder why.
Because they can. If you like something and you can do it, why not just do it? Camouflage pattern matters very little to doorkickers. It matters very little to anyone other than theorycrafting nerds on the internet.
Does anyone miss it?