If you got money to burn, sure. Otherwise there is little point to buy it over an AP5. It will have better fit and finish and you'll have zero qualms it'll ever have problems. The AP5, often considered the most reliable of the production clones, has issues for some from time to time, but by and large has been very well received.
>Worth the money?
Depends how much the money is worth to you, actually. Functionally there's not a big difference but the chance to actually own one produced by the original manufacturer is pretty cool. So if the $1500 is a big deal to you then it's not worth it probably, if that's a small amount of money to you then go for the HK. The real question is full size or K version.
>most cucked
In what way? >Suppressed? Full size >Unsuppressed? K
I haven't ever even seen these guns in real life. Just curious what are your thoughts behind them.
how do you like your A-Tec superessor?
Thats the only one i like and can get here in germany.
The other one is the skinny ass B&T which is ugly as hell and the one from Ase Utra which is kind of ok.
Suppression is great and the modular construction is a nice feature, plus it cleans easy.
Dunno about longevity, there is definitely some erosion in the first couple of baffles, but at this rate it'll probably outlast the barrel.
Yeah, the clones are built to specs more closely resembling a real MP5. If HK made a gun the exact same as the AP5 with HK markings, THEN it might be worth it if you wanted to flex. As it stands now, it's an inferior product.
> one that says "heckler & koch"
yeah, engraved in tiny letters right underneath a larger set that tells you to read an instruction manual because they assume you're moronic and don't want to get sued. think that shit came on the MP5s they used in the Iranian embassy hostage incident?
uh not at all. Try doing a hardness test between your turkshit bolt carrier and an HK carrier.
>muh 1 pin lower is justasgood! >I don't NEED an authentic lower or easy convertibility to F/A
Cope. People who want the closest thing to a real MP5 get the Turkshit guns. People who want to pay $1000 for an ugly incorrect rollmark are free to buy the SP5
Clones aren't built to HK spec. I have an HK SP5 and it doesn't take Turkish parts. A friend of mine has a Turk G3 and it doesn't take 3 different types of (original) HK stocks.
>I have an HK SP5 and it doesn't take Turkish parts.
bruh what fricking Turk parts are you buying? there's almost none available. this sounds like bullshit.
An here is my SP5.
The build quality, specs of the SP5 are much better.
And so far it ran flawlessly, i need to ask him how his T41 ran.
The MKE mad me realize if I buy a G3 clone I'd buy a SAR.
literally every clone has significantly worse quality control and reliability. unfortunately, the internet is mostly used by poors who seethe when you point put that their cope guns are in fact not just as good. you also see this with the morons who believe zastava is just as good as molot or arsenal.
For what HK is asking? Frick no. I'm not dropping $3k on something I have to drop more money on to make it even look as authentic as a now-$1100 roach clone. Miss me with that bullshit.
Anyone actually buying this isn't buying for the practicality.
Anyone asking if this is worth it can't afford it.
Anyone who wants one and can afford one has already bought it.
I have an SP5 and it works flawlessly out of the box. All the MKE clones are crude don't fit HK parts and their reviews are bad. A friend of mine got the MKE T41 as well.
>I have an SP5 and it works flawlessly out of the box
Hey, same, except mine's an MKE. >All the MKE clones are crude don't fit HK parts
Weird, mine has an HK BCG, an HK housing, an HK A3 stock and an HK trigger pack.
Almost flawlessly, the only issue I've had that wasn't caused by an extractor spring breaking because I wore it out from shooting so much was an OOB a couple years back. It was PPU 124gr., I have no idea what happened and it hasn't happened since. Gun was completely fine.
I love my AP5. Completely satisfies my lust for an MP5. No desire for a real HK from me, at least I’m it’s current neutered configuration at the $3500 price point
Getting a non hk mp5 is a cope but that doesn’t make it bad… however, Lots of poors with MKE guns on Reddit attaching airsoft a3 stocks and knights rails… so think about that and at least don’t be a redditor when you cave and buy a meth-p5 made by Mohammed in a dirt hut
No
Not when other mp5 options are available. If you need to have the roll mark, go for it though
If you got money to burn, sure. Otherwise there is little point to buy it over an AP5. It will have better fit and finish and you'll have zero qualms it'll ever have problems. The AP5, often considered the most reliable of the production clones, has issues for some from time to time, but by and large has been very well received.
Just the idea of having the SP5 produced in the same factory in Germany that produces the MP5 with the same quality standards make me blush.
Too bad they neuter the frick out of it
Nope
And I'm an HK fanboy
>Worth the money?
Depends how much the money is worth to you, actually. Functionally there's not a big difference but the chance to actually own one produced by the original manufacturer is pretty cool. So if the $1500 is a big deal to you then it's not worth it probably, if that's a small amount of money to you then go for the HK. The real question is full size or K version.
Suppressed? Full size
Unsuppressed? K
It's the most cucked MP5 on the market so I say paying a premium for a little rollmark and dealing with the bullshit it comes with is not worth it
>most cucked
In what way?
>Suppressed? Full size
>Unsuppressed? K
I haven't ever even seen these guns in real life. Just curious what are your thoughts behind them.
They made them near impossible to convert to full auto, whereas the mke turkey guns are easily converted
Full size is quieter suppressed, generally...
>Full size is quieter suppressed, generally...
That's probably because more gunpowder is
burned inside the barrel.
The MP5 and clones appear to be some of the easiest 9mm PCC to suppress.
>They made them near impossible to convert to full auto, whereas the mke turkey guns are easily converted
I never liked the Navy style lower receiver. The MKE has the more classic euro style lower design.
I wouldn't want to bastardize the weapon with tacticool gear. I would keep it as original as possible.
Am also thorn between standard and k pdw.
Not when you can get a PTR to larp with for less money.
in all honestly,
either flex on the poors with the real deal
or get flexed on
Get flexed on with what, an even more castrated version of the actual MP5?
No it's not.
The only legitimate reason to want one is autism.
t. would know
how do you like your A-Tec superessor?
Thats the only one i like and can get here in germany.
The other one is the skinny ass B&T which is ugly as hell and the one from Ase Utra which is kind of ok.
Suppression is great and the modular construction is a nice feature, plus it cleans easy.
Dunno about longevity, there is definitely some erosion in the first couple of baffles, but at this rate it'll probably outlast the barrel.
indecisive woman thread
Yeah, below 3k.
ignore these morons. The clone shits aren't built to the same spec or standards.
Yeah, the clones are built to specs more closely resembling a real MP5. If HK made a gun the exact same as the AP5 with HK markings, THEN it might be worth it if you wanted to flex. As it stands now, it's an inferior product.
lol imagine thinking your gun that says "made in turkey" is more authentic than one that says "heckler & koch"
> one that says "heckler & koch"
yeah, engraved in tiny letters right underneath a larger set that tells you to read an instruction manual because they assume you're moronic and don't want to get sued. think that shit came on the MP5s they used in the Iranian embassy hostage incident?
>muh 1 pin lower is justasgood!
>I don't NEED an authentic lower or easy convertibility to F/A
Cope. People who want the closest thing to a real MP5 get the Turkshit guns. People who want to pay $1000 for an ugly incorrect rollmark are free to buy the SP5
uh not at all. Try doing a hardness test between your turkshit bolt carrier and an HK carrier.
Have you done this, and do you have the results to tell us?
Clones aren't built to HK spec. I have an HK SP5 and it doesn't take Turkish parts. A friend of mine has a Turk G3 and it doesn't take 3 different types of (original) HK stocks.
>I have an HK SP5 and it doesn't take Turkish parts.
bruh what fricking Turk parts are you buying? there's almost none available. this sounds like bullshit.
An here is my SP5.
The build quality, specs of the SP5 are much better.
And so far it ran flawlessly, i need to ask him how his T41 ran.
The MKE mad me realize if I buy a G3 clone I'd buy a SAR.
Surplus furniture but also a new HK collapsible stock. Each would have to be hammered onto the MKE to fit.
No, you said SP5s don't take Turkish parts. Elaborate.
I'd strongly assume it because the T41 doesn't take present or past HK furniture.
literally every clone has significantly worse quality control and reliability. unfortunately, the internet is mostly used by poors who seethe when you point put that their cope guns are in fact not just as good. you also see this with the morons who believe zastava is just as good as molot or arsenal.
For some people.
If you need to save up for this, I think it's unlikely you'll be happy with what you get honestly.
For what HK is asking? Frick no. I'm not dropping $3k on something I have to drop more money on to make it even look as authentic as a now-$1100 roach clone. Miss me with that bullshit.
Nice airshit PEQ poortard
Uh huh.
Frick those are some nice setups
pedo hypergay
frick no
95% is the name and the clones are available and better, mostly
Anyone actually buying this isn't buying for the practicality.
Anyone asking if this is worth it can't afford it.
Anyone who wants one and can afford one has already bought it.
Always find the lowest price available, then do some research to see if they're safe.
The MP5, luckily, is a relatively safe option for a carbine, so it's kinda difficult for a manufacturer to frick it up.
Why are you saying that the AP5 is more authentic than the SP5? Seems unreasonable, but if there is a reason please let me know.
Frick no.
>rollers destroy the reciver in 2.5-5k rounds and you have to buy a new one
HellaKuckolds will defend this hebrewness
>Is a submachine gun that’s limited to only semi auto and not allowed to have a stock because of moronic barrel length laws worth it?
Just go buy a Cali legal AR15 made by Colt.
If you want one buy it but don't buy the turk shit brand.
Stop being a mindless parrot trying to talk about shit you don't know anything about.
I have an SP5 and it works flawlessly out of the box. All the MKE clones are crude don't fit HK parts and their reviews are bad. A friend of mine got the MKE T41 as well.
>I have an SP5 and it works flawlessly out of the box
Hey, same, except mine's an MKE.
>All the MKE clones are crude don't fit HK parts
Weird, mine has an HK BCG, an HK housing, an HK A3 stock and an HK trigger pack.
An here is his MKE
How has it run?
Almost flawlessly, the only issue I've had that wasn't caused by an extractor spring breaking because I wore it out from shooting so much was an OOB a couple years back. It was PPU 124gr., I have no idea what happened and it hasn't happened since. Gun was completely fine.
Also notice that if you want a SAR tuned trigger you'd have to mention if it was a MKE gun becaus the trigger won't fit the MKE specs.
Here is the HK surplus I own. My friend (since it's his T41) has more and newer HK stuff which all requires hammering to put it on.
I love my AP5. Completely satisfies my lust for an MP5. No desire for a real HK from me, at least I’m it’s current neutered configuration at the $3500 price point
>Worth the money?
>Using a PCC in the year of our lord 2022
ngmi
My Pakishit takes HK parts just fine.
Hell, half the gun is now HK.
Getting a non hk mp5 is a cope but that doesn’t make it bad… however, Lots of poors with MKE guns on Reddit attaching airsoft a3 stocks and knights rails… so think about that and at least don’t be a redditor when you cave and buy a meth-p5 made by Mohammed in a dirt hut