SOMETHING IS ABOUT TO GO DOWN IN KHERSON

Looks like the first counter-offensive is starting around Kherson. Still not sure if 100% true but many sources are saying its happening.

  1. 1 month ago
    Based Charlie Magne Poster

    >first counter-offensive
    first counter-offensive THIS WEEK you mean.
    they're up to nearly 30 "this time we mean it" kherson counteroffensives just since june.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >first counter-offensive THIS WEEK you mean.
      >they're up to nearly 30 "this time we mean it" kherson counteroffensives just since june.
      Pissoff vatnik the government never announced one before now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        False this is 30th Ukrop offensive so far mate. My name is Baz from Norf Oblast, I enjoy football, afternoon meal from Greggs and buying extracted minerals from Russian Federation at very competitive pricings

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Doesn't know that in the battle of Baghdad coalition forces pretended to initiate the offensive every day for several weeks to test and throw off enemy defenses

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      just because russia's definition of an offensive is a mad dash into enemey territory with no control doesnt mean that other militaries would do the same. im not sure what you'd expect an ukrainian offensive to look like, but it certainly wouldnt mirror russian tactics

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >first counter-offensive THIS WEEK you mean.
      >calling nominal skirmishes the last 2 month the "counter offense"

      I can only assume you're trying to demoralize Russia's supporters.

      Nobody is so retarded as to consider the staring pressure on the front a "counter offense" unless you're intentionally trying to make vatniks look like shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literally the only people calling it a counter offensive all month are your fellow vatniks and now you all are coping and seething that it's actually happening.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Literally the only people calling it a counter offensive all month are your fellow vatniks
        New cope just dropped.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No it's verifiable with an archive. Most talk about a Kherson offensive are sarcastic vatmoron shitposts and now that the counter offensive is actually happening, vatnig retards are shitposting everywhere to try and deflect.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >t-they're being s-sarcastic
            Uh huh, yeah.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              moron, literally anyone can go on the archive and search with the keywords "kherson counteroffensive".
              You're not fooling anyone, I'm not even the guy you replied to. Like 95% of the people in this thread were probably here then so I don't know who you're trying to fool

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              > pretending everyone is too retarded to see through your bullshit
              Lol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Once again the Russians memed themselves into a false position of dominance, are confused as to why they're getting their shit kicked in after believing their own propaganda - dumb fuckers lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ITT, fake Charlie is a retarded vatmoron (but I repeat myelf) who cannot into understanding what shaping operations are

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God the sheer number of /chug/ “your a trannie” posters says something might actually be happening

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We'll see by nightfall if anything happened but the shill influx is making me think something is going down

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing is happening, stop falling for this crap.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao you just make me even more excited

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >randos say "ITS HAPPENING!!!!"
        >they have said this may times and it never happens
        >"I-I believe them this time ok?"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You fuckers always say nothing is happening then disappear the moment it does, do you ever get tired of being wrong or is it sone kind of variation of cuckholding?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you know that intense sexual thrill you get when you pay a hooker for a blowjob and her john beats you senseless and steals your wallet and car? it's a variant of that; not as painful but a lot more expensive.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Her pimp I assume you mean. If you paid her for the blowjob you would be the John. Unless you mean to say your a hooker and sometimes you beat your johns and rob them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You must be intentionally missing the point. The Kherson counterattack has been declared, emphatically, multiple times. The same people who peddled those FALSE claims are now claiming it's 'really happening this time'. There is zero reason to believe them.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Ok yeah, must be a sex thing. Sad really.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinkerbell_effect

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      WTF ITS HAPPENING

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Da
        https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-says-long-anticipated-southern-112516292.html

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck Russia

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Check out incel slava z for nothing happening that western media is trying to bury

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The first results will be in only the next day anyway.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever happened, jimmies are certainly rustled. Even the serb is riled up.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How are Ukrainians so effective? Literally no casualties never mind all the gore that I've got saved

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Amazing, how does Wikipedia have any credibility at all?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        generally if you go to the edit history and check who's editing it you will see plenty of the funny stuff

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There is a an anti CCP Chinese group that would make fake "earthquakes" as a code for "massacre", they would hang out on a comment section of some obscure blog where they would communicate with each other.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Tell me more about these rando CN code talkers anon?
            We're there really enough massacres in the modern connected day that they needed to generate a code word specific for them, or do you mean historical massacres?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >This user supports the independance of Scotland
          >This user supports the independance of Wales
          >This user thinks nationalism is outdated

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Regionalism was a thing at some point. Basically saying that we should all go back to HRE-tier nonsense.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s because the Russians are looking for an excuse to run away. Russia is fucking done and will be lucky to keep Moscow by the time this is over

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Amazing, how does Wikipedia have any credibility at all?

        he is spamming this in every thread using it as proof that ukrainians lie and there is no offensive or some shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia is fucking done and will be lucky to keep Moscow by the time this is over
        Ukrainians will be lucky to retake Kherson before winter, let's not even talk about the south and then Crimea.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >let's not even talk about the south and then Crimea.
          If they retake Kherson Russia will cease to exist within a month. There won't be anyone to defend those territories.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Before winter
          >thinking this war will be over anytime soon
          You poor soul.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's not what I meant.
            But if Ukraine slows down to Russian offensive levels of 2 meters per week, this war is probably going to end like the 2014, with a stalemate and continuous shelling for a decade.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Like the 2014 war in Donbass*

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I doubt it'll be a sweeping success like the North, but I imagine it'll still be faster than Russias artillery crawl. Russia is terminally reliant on trains for logistics, and they've demonstrated in inability to defend them. Any Ukie pushes will be preceded by months of chipping away rear echelon and support, then letting the front fall apart.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both sides are resting, except Ukraine is sending himars and drones to rack up kills. And Russia continues spamming arty at whatever is in range.
    Ukraine needs to see a significant collapse in equipment or ammo/fuel on the Russian side via himars destruction. And the fuel ammo equipment supply to Ukraine to at the minimum increase to 1 to 1 with Russian supply. Not until it's 1 to 1 will Ukraine advance on anything, it should be 4 or 10 to 1 like Russia had attacked with, but Ukraine will never reach that equipment level.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"Stratcom Centre UA"
    >never heard before
    >never will hear again
    its all so tiresome
    why cant we have propaganda free war without all the misinfo

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine is likely to retake Kherson anytime soon but this is still terrible news for Russia, it means that they are starting to lose the war of attrition

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They've been shelled since early may, the bridge has been rendered unusable a while ago. It's not like Ukraine has been at it for a week.
      If they need 6 months to retake every city Russia captured, it's going to be a very long war.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How many cities over 100k population has Russia captured? 5 or 6? 6 months per city is 3 years.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you consider Crimea and pre-war Donbass, you can aim for at least 5.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm just considering returning to pre-Feb borders, and that's UAFs official stated goal. Idk if Crimea can ever be retaken sans total Russian collapse

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The promise of retaking Crimea is part of the Ukrainian constitution so you bet they'll want to do it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                When Crimea is in danger, USA will intervene and negotiate a compromise. The peninsula will become a free territory ruled by the UN, the Ukies get the whole Donbass instead, Russia gets fucked off.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The US already stated that Crimea is ukrainian and hence fair game.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I have a feeling the bydlo republics can though and at least part of Crimea. It doesn't matter though as the material, economic and clout damage done to Russia in 6 months will have this invasion go down as one of this centuries greatest blunders.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm honestly curious how Ukes plan on retaking them, Russia had 8 years to transplant as many vatniks as they need, and I wouldn't be suprised if they kick it into overdrive when they start losing ground.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia had 8 years to transplant as many vatniks as they need
                Doesn't matter. By the time Crimea gets attacked Monkey either will have declared mobilisation or ordered a retreat on all fronts.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He won't order a retreat, but mobilization can't help either, sending 90K conscripts on a death march won't bid well for even the staunchest of russnog supporters

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I mean that if such a threat becomes real the situation will be dire enough to do whatever shit is possible since keeping status-quo is even worse.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but for Russians that can afford to move, was post 2014 Donbabwe really that attractive?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Russia intentionally transplants drunkards/unemployed/ and criminals. It's a state funded process

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's called kicking out any and all russian citizens. Nobody relevant is going to bat an eye at the Ukrainians doing it, either.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Ukies officially said so and they've been playing stupid for weeks if not a month. So I'm going with yes, it's happening.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing is happening.
    This will be like that time the claimed to have struck Saratov and 2 others.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know if this offensive is real, but in case it is I plan on screenshoting every post mocking it in case it succeeds

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but in case it is I plan on screenshoting every post mocking it in case it succeeds
      Did you happen to do that the past 30 times it was announced?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry, I can't take screenshots of your bizarre fantasies.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have any examples of the Ukrainian government announcing an offensive on Kherson? You keep mentioning the oddly specific number 30, but the only people I recall who mentioned it before now were armchair general telegram pages

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You keep mentioning the oddly specific number 30
          It's called a hyperbole, you big dummy. 50, 30, 20, 1000, doesn't matter.
          >Do you have any examples of the Ukrainian government announcing an offensive on Kherson?
          I'm not some dork that spends all my time on twitter saving everything, but have this, you'll say it's not good enough because it's not the Ukrainian government, but I don't really give a shit since ISW is good enough for you shitheads that spam the catalog day in and day out with this insipid crap.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ah yes, Kharkiv - a city noted for it's presence in the Kherson Oblast

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You do realize that says Kharkiv right? The area where Ukraine pushed most Russian positions back when that was posted?

              https://i.imgur.com/u8CPrb5.jpg

              Legit low IQ moment from our Z bro.

              Re-read the image you posted.
              I get that you're probably ESL, but come on, these are Slavic proper nouns, it's really up to basic reading comprehension

              You stupid gays are obsessed with the fact that it's another city, but the point is the russian military still hasn't been pushed to their border and it's been almost 4 months since that was posted.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They were pushed to the border though. Ukrainians even took photos on the border.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine has no intention of invading Russia proper. It absolutely does Crimea.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you have any examples of the Ukrainian government announcing an offensive on Kherson?
                <here
                >wrong, read it again
                >u-uh you are obsessed!!! they didn't win the war in four months??????
                You are not very bright it seems.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Here's a picture of Ukrainians at the border, originally uploaded as an mp4 (which I can't upload on this board) shortly after ISW said there was an offensive.
                All you've done is prove the reliability of western sources. Congratulations, you played yourself

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                k

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They still haven't changed Udy to read
                Kek, the amount of cope is delicious.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What is this?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i love how you purposely cropped the map to try and make it look like you were right, you fucking worthless vatnik

                https://i.imgur.com/5mIDIQB.png

                What is this?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That video is KINO

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You stupid gays are obsessed with the fact that it's another city
                Not any of them but you're legit retarded for posting it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kys moron

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lol i will if you learn geography (which you can't)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You do realize that says Kharkiv right? The area where Ukraine pushed most Russian positions back when that was posted?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Legit low IQ moment from our Z bro.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              What moobie?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Re-read the image you posted.
            I get that you're probably ESL, but come on, these are Slavic proper nouns, it's really up to basic reading comprehension

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You keep mentioning the oddly specific number 30
          Go easy on him, their FSB pamphlet said 30 and they are just copypasting.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >This time it's for real! We're totally going to do it, guyz!
    Offense is a whole different ballgame.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Girkin just confirmed it on his telegram. It's real

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Nsdc8zA.png

      Wagner confirming it, it's official boys let's go

      cope counter-posting from vatnigs in 3.. 2.. 1..

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pontoons, you say?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wagner confirming it, it's official boys let's go

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >We have tired faces and avoid each other's eyes. "It will be like the Somme," says Kat gloomily.
    >"There we were shelled steadily for seven days and nights." Kat has lost all his fun since we have been here, which is bad, for Kat is an old front-hog, and can smell what is coming.
    >Only Tjaden seems pleased with the good rations and the rum; he thinks we might even go back to rest without anything happening at all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Suddenly the nearer explosions cease. The shelling continues but it has lifted and falls behind us,our trench is free.
      >We seize the hand-grenades, pitch them out in front of the dug-out and jump after them. The bombardment has stopped and a heavy barrage now falls behind us. The attack
      has come.

      >No one would believe that in this howling waste there could still be men; but steel helmets now appear on all sides out of the trench, and fifty yards from us a machine-gun is already in position and barking.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GIRKIN UPDATE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Use deepl, much better at handling Russian.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Girkin is saying rocket strikes on front lines, and Russian news reports of air defences going active. So at the minimum, Ukraine is spending some ammo. We'll see if they try and push infantry through to occupy though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wagner confirmed 3 breakthrough on the Kherson front by UAF already and are expecting a larger attack at night.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand how Russian artillery is still in the fight. Can't it be easily identified by NATO satellites in real time, the cords which can be immediately fed to a GMLRS battery? Why isn't it that simple?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hitting ammo depos is easier, cuz there's less of them. They service more artillery pieces than the total number of depos, so it's the first target to be struck in a war

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because there is a lot of it in different places. It is much more effective to strike ammo depots, which has been continuosly done so far.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They have literal thousands in service. The US doesn't even have 1k M777s in active use. The fact its all soviet surplus really opened my eyes to just how balls to the wall their manufacturing was

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just how balls to the wall their manufacturing was
        it's easy when you don't have the consumer industry sector whatsoever

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      easier to attack depots

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kherson was just a feint

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If things become hopeless in Ukraine I assume Putin will order a retreat to Russia and annexation of Belarus and tell the Russian people they need to hunker down for the coming NATO invasion.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >annexation of Belarus
      Neither opposition nor lukha is gonna go for it. You want Bialorus flipping sides? Cuz this is how you get it to flip sides.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Luka is probably the only person in Belarus that might be for it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He isn't. It's like Zeno's paradox of Achilles and the tortoise, when you get very close, but never actually reach the target (in our case, integration with Russia). Though it doesn't negate the fact that Putin might just do what the Soviets did prior to the war in Afghanistan.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            t. not knowing Lukashenko at all
            The guy's been fighting tooth and nail to avoid getting annexed for the last 20+ years ever since he dig himself into a hole by proposing integration into the Union State hoping to snatch the presidency of the entirety of Russia from Yeltsin only for Putin to come in and steal the cake. Luka is now backed up against the wall after the 2020 protests now, though and knows that he has to dance as Putin sees fit because he'd be hanging off a lamp post if it wasn't for him.
            Ironically enough a lot of Belarusians would prefer getting annexed to having the Bulbanator stay in charge.

            https://i.imgur.com/Lz3F8oV.jpg

            The only annexation Lukashenko is for is of Russia by Belarus, lurk Union State

            Kneel

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          t. not knowing Lukashenko at all
          The guy's been fighting tooth and nail to avoid getting annexed for the last 20+ years ever since he dig himself into a hole by proposing integration into the Union State hoping to snatch the presidency of the entirety of Russia from Yeltsin only for Putin to come in and steal the cake. Luka is now backed up against the wall after the 2020 protests now, though and knows that he has to dance as Putin sees fit because he'd be hanging off a lamp post if it wasn't for him.
          Ironically enough a lot of Belarusians would prefer getting annexed to having the Bulbanator stay in charge.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >a lot of Belarusians would prefer getting annexed to having the Bulbanator stay in charge
            No, not after the war started. There are voices even that despite Luka being shitty and shit, he's the only force that keeps Belarus independent (or not annexed at least). Yes, he's bad, yes, he created that situation in the first place, but the alternative is so much worse that we'd better stand by him just this once.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I suppose that maybe true. I haven't followed Belarusian public opinions for some time. What do you potatofags think about this entire ordeal, anyway?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >What do you potatofags think about this entire ordeal, anyway?
                Opinions are polarised but the ones against the war have to keep their mouths shut for safety. I emigrated to Poland in 2020, so me and the other Belarussians here are strongly pro-Ukrainian.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A, no to witam

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He is promising to do the union state shit for two decades by now. If bialorus gets annexed he falls into irrelevancy instead of enjoying auticratic rule.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The only annexation Lukashenko is for is of Russia by Belarus, lurk Union State

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the BATKA stance

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I've been looking for this picture, check out the angle of the painting behind them if you want a good laugh

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            chud Putin gets brutally mogged by the LVKA chad stance.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Russian forces already have free reign to be in Belarus. Seems like there's nothing the Belarusian government could do to stop it. And it's be a distraction and consolation prize after losing Ukraine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You kinda underestimate Luka thinking he doesn't have at least a contingency plan to Order 66 that shit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fence sitting is a hard job, if you don't know when the right moment to fall off onto the right side you might end up falling into some junkyard dogs waiting to rip you apart.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Putin realizes Ukraine is FUBAR
        >thinks he will just go for the low hanging fruit of Belarus to save face
        >thinks he will just keep power with NATO boogeyman
        >goes for annexation, but King Potato won't have it
        >now he has another Ukraine but this time it's a full-blown insurgency
        >Russian forces already present in the country are surrounded, it's a complete fuckup
        >Putin thinks maybe he could salvage this by a little Kazakh detour...
        Fund it.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why so much seething itt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't know. Nice webm.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1564265084028960769

    First alleged footage, Russia POV. Tank/vehicle column advancing, video cuts to the area being shelled with low-precision artillery. Seems like what you'd expect from a kherson counteroffensive

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Goodspeed Ukies!

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Some Russians in a trench in the Kherson region got deleted.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You posted this one week ago and it was in another front lol.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Feel free to link to it, amigo.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not the same video.

        Look at the other thread in the catalog and see how different the fortifications around the trenches are.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not the same video.

        Look at the other thread in the catalog and see how different the fortifications around the trenches are.

        I also genuinely thought it was the same video. It's both funny and sad that I've seen enough videos of Russians getting bombed in trenches that I'm starting to mix them up

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No proof, probably Hohols shelling themselves lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Poe's law

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I am not an expert in trench warfare but I don't think you are suppose to ever dig a trench in a straight line.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fucking trenches, in fucking 2022, ruzzia what is you doing baby.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What are the chances that monkeman will start NOOOKING Ukraine if they succeed enough in Kherson and will be able to build up a front to take back Crimea? Would he be that retarded? Because I don't see how he would be able to sell the invasion back home if they get completely assraped in the south.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Would he be that retarded?
      He might actually be, but I hope that the generals would still have some sense and coup d'etat the fucker.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I think there is still time for the August putsch, if you know what I mean

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Either Putin is shot by some general before the tactical nooks fly, or is shortly after, NATO having made an ultimatum to that effect.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unless the monke has gone completely senile, and russian nuclear command is ran by literal monkeys, the chance is 0.
      But considering that those both things are completely possible because it is russia, there is a slight chance that they may try only to realize that their nukes do not fucking work.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No chance. As a desperate measure russia might do a nuclear test in Siberia but that would have major political reprecussions.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This might actually work to intimidate some elements in the West especially in Western Europe and maybe Japan and SK. Would it backfire that badly with China, India and the global south?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It would backfire badly with everyone. Nukes are purely a MAD thing. First country to fuck that up by using them aggressively gets nuked by the rest. Because if you allow "I have nukes, therefore I get to steal and do whatever I want" as a governing principle, then all international order breaks down.

          It's like the saying "an armed society is a polite society", which is true. Until someone actually starts shooting, then it becomes a free-for-all.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >First country to fuck that up by using them aggressively gets nuked by the rest
            You could totally drop 50 kilotons on hohols in the middle of nowhere and as long as its not a city NATO wouldnt do shit other than screech. But the returns are just not worth the shitstorm militarily

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Don't kid yourself vatnik. If Russia escalated with nuclear weapons, we would become directly involved in Ukraine. Conventionally bombing your forces there. You using nuclear weapons would not go unanswered

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                LMAO. You are retarded. If someone bring nukes to the table, you aren't conventionally bomb them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Conventional strikes on Russian forces are one option for responding. We have the military power. We could also strike a target of similar value with nuclear weapons, so if they nuked a small Ukrainian force, we could hit a small Russian force within the borders of Ukraine

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This plus a total trade and travel embargo with the trade embargo having complete “us or them” language. It would be war. At minimum. And a possibility there’d be a preemptive counter-force strike or coup prior to the nuke use anyway. I honestly don’t think the vatmorons should use nukes for their own sake.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Neither Ukraine nor Ukrainians matter when it come to nuclear game.
              Basically the current nuclear powers have made an guarantee to fuck up anyone who uses nukes offensively, so that the non-nuclear countries do not need to seek their own nuclear arsenals.
              If that promise gets broken without repercussions regardless of who does it or where, every single country will get their own nuclear arsenals. And nobody wants that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm saying a test in Siberia as a reminder.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Doesn't change anything, aside from increasing the tension. Russia can blow itself up all it likes (and the rest of the world should encourage this imho), the moment they drop a nuke 1 inch out of their own territory is the moment they get their shit kicked in.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing but a bunch of macho nonsense. Nobody would know what to do in this scenario. Everybody would be scared shitless a nuclear country being mad enough to use them. There would be a lot of posturing, but the reality is that the nuclear genie would never come back into the bottle.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Well, the West will certainly try to put it back in the bottle by crippling Russia with conventional warfare.
                If a nuclear power isn't punished for nuking a non-nuclear power, that's how you get Saudi Arabia, Australia, Japan, South Korea, South Africa, Brazil, Argentina, going nuclear as well, because then only having a nuke can stop another nuclear power.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Because I don't see how he would be able to sell the invasion back home if they get completely assraped in the south.

      Likewise, how can he sell having to resort to nukes?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The evil west NATO Nazis forced me to do it!
        Domestically Putin has total control. If he sells Belgorod to Ukraine tomorrow people would still support him.

        Internationally he would be a pariah that ended the current world order if he ever used nukes though. Every nation would be justified to get nukes now to be protected from other aggressive nuclear powers. You effectively tell both the US and China that you just sharted on their face.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Extremely low, the invasion might of been a disaster for them but nuking anything would lead to a completely unrecoverable situation for all of Russia. It would just make a bad situation much worse for Russia.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Zero. Because Crimea can be easily defended. There's only one land corridor through it and Ukraine would be toasted.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's not about being defensible it's the fact that the majority of usable water comes from that land corridor and all they need to do it sit on it, and with there being people needing to wait in line for water in just Donetsk as it is would really put into question how long anyone further south would have to last.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Blow bridge
        >cut off naval access with missiles
        >crimean defenders either surrender or die from starvation and thirst

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Belarus could end up being the insurgency the West thought they'd be funding in Ukraine. All the better they'll have Ukraine as a proxy to supply Belarusian insurgents.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe anyone cares about this war anymore it's SO BORING. Russia using retard conscripts and playing up the denazification cringe angle to re-polarize from the West, and Ukraine being gay and corrupt as usual even with more Western help than ever before.

    How can anyone take this "war" seriously since it's being fought by literal mouth-breathers on the front?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the head of the russian military is an ex-carpenter and never served in the military.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Based and carpenter pilled. Isn't Russia using only like 8% of their military in Ukraine?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, they are allegedly using close to 2m total personnel.
          Which, coincidentally, is close to the number of their entire armed forces plus all reserves.
          The original official statement of "190k soldiers" dedicated to the Special Military Operation should be viewed within the context of Russia only having 240k "soldiers" in their ground forces.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I R confuse.

            How many Russian soldiers are in Ukraine compared to Ukrainian ones? Combat troops, not support staff and cooks. It seems like Russia is not using many at all because they want to drag this war on and on and on for propaganda reasons to get the West out and make their people think that they're isolated and need to repolarize away from the West in general. Hence the longer war.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Combat troops usually amount to less than 10% of the total number that are "in theater" or nearby in a supporting role.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              We don't know how many "combat troops" there are exactly, considering that Russia loves to split up its armed forces into a lot of smaller, specialised portions (e.g. there are Railway Troops).
              We also don't know how accurate the official numbers are and what the casualties are.
              Based on (unreliable) numbers from mostly Russian sources, we can speculate on how many have "entered" Ukraine (including it's territorial waters and airspace) - at least 500k combatants, including mechanized infantry, tank crews, artillerymen, air pilots and sailors. This includes the combat elements of VDV (Airborne), Morskaya (Marines), conventional ground forces, Rosgvardia (National Guard equivalent), airfield guard units and some of the "frontline" elements from the Railway Troops, logistics troops tha need to go to the front, etc.
              Many more are safely away from the front but still take an active role in the war, e.g. everybody in Strategic Missile troops and most of the VVS (Airforce).

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >There is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare
              - Sun Tsu ~500BC
              If stretching out the war is Putins plan then he is a very bad planner

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It might be because he's not interesed in a military thing at all. He might be interested in using this as a chance to kick out Western businesses while not taking blame for it so his population blames the West for leaving them and not Putin who says that "see? the West hates us. We need to do our own thing again."

                Sounds like it could be a way to flush out dissidents who dislike his rule and to make the public more interested in re-orienting away from the West. I have a hard time thinking Russia can't beat Ukraine if it leveraged its full forces.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I have a hard time thinking Russia can’t bear Ukraine if it leveraged its full forces
                Well good, because reality doesn’t care about your thoughts

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                IDK what's going on. The war seems like a stalemate that's very boring. Ooo, this side blew up another tank. Ooo, that side blew up an ammo depot. Ooo, this is a picture of another conscript blown up by a shell. Wow, who cares. It must be like what WW1 felt like on the home front for people who paid attention.

                >if it leveraged its full forces.
                This is it mang. The full forces.
                Only thing they could add is untrained conscript waves, but those would not do anything.

                Weird. How did the USSR beat Nazi Germany but modern Russia can't beat Ukraine?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Weird. How did the USSR beat Nazi Germany but modern Russia can't beat Ukraine?
                lend lease

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine was part of the USSR

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am aware. Same concept though.

                >Weird. How did the USSR beat Nazi Germany but modern Russia can't beat Ukraine?
                lend lease

                Did it really make that big of a difference? I can't see that happening. Maybe it made one for England, but not USSR.

                Even if he is doing it for all those reasons it does not change the fact that he is currently stuck in an incredibly destructive war in Ukraine, which makes these plans terrible plans as well for the exact same reason

                Destructive only for Ukraine. Russia itself is untouched.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So what, is Belgorod not a part of Russia then?
                Also, I'm sure your words will be of great comfort to Alexander Dugin in his time of grief

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't support Dugin's Eurasianism. I think it's gay and dumb and it's like the EU but weirder.

                >Did it really make that big of a difference?
                Even Stalin himself admitted that they would have been fucked without it
                >Russia itself is untouched.
                lol

                https://i.imgur.com/V5RI16k.jpg

                >Untouched

                I mean untouched by war. Ukraine is clearly worse.

                >Did it make that big of a difference?
                It is literally the only reason the USSR survived the war

                This seems like an American-centric position. Do you have any non-wikipedia reading I can do about it?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukraine is clearly worse.
                Dude, Ukraine literally has infinite money and equipment cheat on. It does not matter what happens to them economically as long as the war is going on.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine is running out of ammo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is true Ukraine ran out of ammo two months ago and are now using ghost shells.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Eh. We'll see how it goes.

                dude was literally high on meth for a good chunk of the war and yet he still kicked the absolute shit out of the Russians for a good 2 years
                Without lend lease the USSR would have been mincemeat for sure

                I don't think it would have been. I actually think the USSR would have beaten Germany in WW2 without allied help.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                With what food/materials?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I actually think the USSR would have beaten Germany in WW2 without allied help.
                well you think wrong son, lend lease is the only reason they survived the war
                Without it they would have ended up like they did in 1917

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I actually think the USSR would have beaten Germany in WW2 without allied help.
                kek, if that makes you feel better

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Did it really make that big of a difference?
                Even Stalin himself admitted that they would have been fucked without it
                >Russia itself is untouched.
                lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Untouched

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Russia had massive reserves. They are burning through them super fast to keep everything afloat. Once reserves run out in a year or two max it's fucking Venezuela time.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                About half of those are now frozen because they were stupid enough to keep them in euros.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Reuters
                >reliable
                Im pro Ukraine but come on
                I imagine the Russian economy is taking a shit though

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Russian economy increased 3.5% in Q1
                >wow this proves the sanctions don't work
                >Russian economy decreased 4% in Q2
                >wow this proves Reuters are hacks

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Newsflash, retard: The russian govenrment by now admits that their economy cratered by 6% over the last 6 months. Wich means it cratered even worse, because they always lie.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia itself is untouched.
                Russia is more fucked up on a more fundamental level than war-torn Ukraine is.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Weird. How did the USSR beat Nazi Germany but modern Russia can't beat Ukraine?
                USSR got lend lease, now Ukraine is getting it.
                Simple as that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Did it make that big of a difference?

                Russia would have lost ww2 in 4 months if it wasn't for the USA literally running their entire war economy, for free. What a waste too, we didn't need those fucks to beat hitler but FDR is a cuck who burns in hell for selling out to socialism and extending the depression for 7 years. Fuck that cripple cunt, I'd go back in time just to kill him and make sure ike leads the entire war.

                This is an interesting theory. What makes you think that made the difference in WW2 when it seems like all of the stuff the USSR used was Soviet?

                >Weird. How did the USSR beat Nazi Germany but modern Russia can't beat Ukraine?
                The west backed Russia during WW2
                The west is currently backing Ukraine
                I think you should be able to figure out the rest

                The West is not literally fighting Russia though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Did it make that big of a difference?
                It is literally the only reason the USSR survived the war

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The West is not literally fighting Russia though.
                This is correct, Russia is being defeated largely by Ukraine on its own, all the west is doing at this point is supplying ammunition and intelligence
                Imagine therefore how fucked the soviets would have been had they received so little support against the Germans

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting. It sounds like Hitler was just even more retarded than I thought he was as a strategist lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                dude was literally high on meth for a good chunk of the war and yet he still kicked the absolute shit out of the Russians for a good 2 years
                Without lend lease the USSR would have been mincemeat for sure

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                US was shoveling materials and factory equipment to USSR hand over fist. Almost all aluminum used in war time production was gifted from U.S.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why though? I don't get why if the USA hated the USSR so much.

                >In a confidential interview with the wartime correspondent Konstantin Simonov, the Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov is quoted as saying:
                >Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war

                >Nikita Khrushchev, future premier of the USSR, admitted in his memoirs that Lend-Lease was vital: “Just imagine how we would have advanced from Stalingrad to Berlin without [American transport]. Our losses would have been colossal because we would have had no manoeuvrability...Without [US food supplies] we wouldn’t have been able to feed our army. We had lost our most fertile lands — the Ukraine and the northern Caucasus.”
                >Khrushchev went further and admitted: “Several times I heard Stalin acknowledge [Lend-Lease] within the small circle of people around him. He said that...if we had had to deal with Germany one-to-one we would not have been able to cope because we lost so much of our country.”
                >Perhaps the last word should be left to Marshal Georgy Zhukov, who masterminded the Red Army victories. He admitted, in a bugged conversation in 1963, that without Lend-Lease the USSR “could not have continued the war”.

                Can you please post the source for this? I'd like to read and save it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.ft.com/content/8a1709ca-48e2-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I can't see it. It asks for money. Also Financial Times seems like a weird source. I'd need to see THEIR sources.

                With what food/materials?

                What they made themselves?

                Because US felt Germany was the bigger immediate threat, but I'm getting the suHispanicion you're not asking in good faith.

                Germany was a bigger immediate threat than the USSR? Really?

                Because we hated the kraut even more.

                That seems unlikely given Hitler was Time's man of the year while the USSR was constantly vilified.

                >Why though?
                Because nazis fucked up and went into war with brits.

                No, England declared on them over Poland (but lol they left Poland to die to the USSR and didn't war over them, very cool.)

                man it is literally copypasted, just look it up. You are asking to be spoonfed wikipedia-tier knowledge.

                as per why: to fuck Nazis up. The hate between URSS and USA was not at cold war levels yet.

                Communism was disliked more than Nazism.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Germany was a bigger immediate threat than the USSR? Really?
                Yes. Soviets were completely fucktarded and backwards. They even got their asses handed to them by country of three million people who did not even anyone else than Sweden backing them up.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm shocked that materiel made that much of a difference when it's still the same people running the show.

                https://i.imgur.com/EfFdsue.png

                >Russia itself is untouched.
                Russia is more fucked up on a more fundamental level than war-torn Ukraine is.

                How so? Also I trust zero posts on PrepHole from either side of the war telling tales like that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Germany was a bigger immediate threat than the USSR? Really?
                Hindsight is 20/20 my friend, but Churchill was right we should have pushed to the Volga once Hitler was dead

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I'd need to see THEIR sources
                Check out Nikita Khrushchev's memoirs
                http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/khruschev1/28.html

                >What they made themselves?
                >The United States and the British Commonwealth provided 55 percent of all the aluminum the Soviet Union used during the war and more than 80 percent of the copper.
                >In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder. And how much steel! Could we really have set up the production of our tanks without American steel? And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own."

                >Germany was a bigger immediate threat than the USSR? Really?
                >That seems unlikely given Hitler was Time's man of the year while the USSR was constantly vilified.
                >No, England declared on them over Poland (but lol they left Poland to die to the USSR and didn't war over them, very cool.)
                >Communism was disliked more than Nazism.
                Bad faith arguments

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do you even know what bad faith means?

                >I can't see it. It asks for money.
                use archive.ph

                If you're going to post a source, why even do such a shitty job? Just don't bother replying.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes to make an argument with no actual intention in surmising an answer/agreement is in bad faith. Intentionally acting obtuse is a popular tactic for this, you are willfully playing dumb, right now, at this moment.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ok. I don't know how asking a question for the story with a source is "playing dumb" but sure.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You may be genuinely unfamiliar with WWII but this is how you come across

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I can't see it. It asks for money.
                use archive.ph

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because US felt Germany was the bigger immediate threat, but I'm getting the suHispanicion you're not asking in good faith.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Why though?
                Because nazis fucked up and went into war with brits.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because we hated the kraut even more.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                man it is literally copypasted, just look it up. You are asking to be spoonfed wikipedia-tier knowledge.

                as per why: to fuck Nazis up. The hate between URSS and USA was not at cold war levels yet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because US felt Germany was the bigger immediate threat, but I'm getting the suHispanicion you're not asking in good faith.

                he probably isn't asking in good faith, but here's more info:
                >Such assessments, however, are contradicted by the opinions of Soviet war participants. Most famously, Soviet dictator Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.
                >"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."
                >Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.
                >"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."
                https://www.rferl.org/a/did-us-lend-lease-aid-tip-the-balance-in-soviet-fight-against-nazi-germany/30599486.html

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What "bad faith" would I have?

                At least you gave an actual readable article. I wish they listed their sources though and didn't just link to other articles from their website...

                https://i.imgur.com/V7cMvzu.jpg

                >I actually think the USSR would have beaten Germany in WW2 without allied help.
                kek, if that makes you feel better

                >source: trust me bro
                Nice numbers.

                http://www.hrono.ru/libris/lib_h/hrush58.php
                At russian, part from Hrushev's book.

                Thank you. I will look into it. I cannot read Russian, but I can look for an English version unless you have it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                http://www.hrono.ru/libris/lib_h/hrush58.php
                At russian, part from Hrushev's book.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is bait, nobody could possibly in good faith go on a chain this long of "source? I don't think so. Really? Then why (obvious red herring". Either bait, or you are truly retarded.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe actually give a source then and not a blogpost that says the lend-lease was no big deal. It's in your very link. Yet I am supposed to think that these whispers about it being the best thing ever for the USSR is the true historical perspective? Get out of here with that wikipedia-tier source linking.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                (You)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your surrender.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                (You)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I accept that surrender, too.

                Your source was 10 years old at the start of WW2 and made his comments in 2015 when the Russian state (which he is a part of in his capacity as a politician) had long since down played the contribution of others to the eventual victory in WW2.

                So you'll support the secret whispers argument over the raw numbers one even though they both come from politicians? Very facts-based and cool.

                >It says in Wikipedia the soviets produced 100 brazilion tanks and trucks

                it's dishonest to compared percentages, the lend-lease program was essential because it gave time for a semi rural shithole like the soviet union to panic industrialize and built factories from scratch to the far east.
                Obviously once the soviet production capabilities went into overdrive, the numbers were insignificant, but what about before?

                >Obviously once the soviet production capabilities went into overdrive, the numbers were insignificant, but what about before?
                Finally we are getting somewhere. The USSR never had the chance to even do anything with the 3-5% of resources from the allies outside of localized relief because the Germans had already lost the war at that point (they didn't know it yet) as they failed to reach all of their objectives in the first year. There's no way Stalin's forces could have lost WW2 when Hitler was leading the opposition. Probably anyone else could have done a better job than him.

                >he totally whispered to me and his inner circle
                Khrushchev, who fought against the Nazis in Kiev and was appointed by Stalin to be the main link between him and the military, said so
                You are being intentionally bad faith
                Khrushchev's memoirs are a trustworthy source. Zhukov is trustworthy in these matters as well. Stalinist revisionism and 1990s politicians aren't.

                >The Short History Of The Great Patriotic War, also from 1948, acknowledged the Lend-Lease shipments, but concluded: "Overall this assistance was not significant enough to in any way exert a decisive influence over the course of the Great Patriotic War."

                Literally from 1948 is post-Stalin revisionism to you?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Tankie alert

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He'll toss his little turret if he looks away from all that revisionism for a couple of minutes, realizes what's happening to Russian forces irl right now.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >post-Stalin revisionism
                when did I say post-Stalin revisionism?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I took your accusation to mean modern Stalinists doing revisionism. There are many in Russia today. Apologies if that's not the case.

                >So the USSR...
                Literally yes, lmao. There was a brief period where it looked like we might all be able to get along post war, but then the USSR decided to go all iron curtain authoritarian instead of liberalising in peacetime, so we got the cold war.

                Are you 14? You're typing like you've never read a book on cold war history.

                I don't know why you would be claiming there were thoughts the USSR would become liberal. What would be interesting is hearing WHY if the Allies went to war over Poland, WHY did they not go for the USSR when they invaded Poland alongside Germany. They just attacked Germany.

                The USSR wasn't modern-day Russia.

                I am aware of this. Russia was still the leading state in the USSR though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >WHY did they not go for the USSR when they invaded Poland alongside Germany
                because declaring war on 2 massive continental powers at the same time is a stupid idea?
                Fucks sake dude you might actually be retarded

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >we will defend Poland's honor
                >just not against the Soviets
                Brits are just insufferable.

                >nuh-uh
                >le demoralisation
                You already gave up, Ivan.

                So really, you think I am a Russian?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >So really, you think I am a Russian?
                At every level, except physical - and perhaps even physical - you are Russian.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My wife is actually Russian, so you got that (not imported, local born native English speaker).

                I am new-world Anglo.

                >WHY did they not go for the USSR when they invaded Poland alongside Germany
                There were thoughts to do so when Winter War happened. Allies just decided to wait a bit and it paid off - in less than 2 years Germany itself attacked the USSR.

                Yet Poland was still under the USSR at the end of the war.

                You don't post like le anglo for Pennsylvania for one.
                FYI most whites from Pennsylvania are german, german is still spoken in a couple of communities.
                And more importantly, your posts don't give priority to what a guy from there would give importance to.
                You post like a butthurt east euro or some shithole tankie.

                I am not Pennsylvania Dutch. I am legacy Anglo from the OG colonists.
                >And more importantly, your posts don't give priority to what a guy from there would give importance to.
                LMAO, what would a guy from PA give priority to when talking about lend-lease in WW2?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Yet Poland was still under the USSR at the end of the war.
                Wdym "under the USSR"? The whole central Europe was under the USSR in that case.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >My wife is actually Russian
                So you are just pussy-whipped.
                You could have said this in post 1. You are literally putting this above your country you shameful dipshit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why do Americans have to add all this bullshit to "American"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You don't post like le anglo for Pennsylvania for one.
                FYI most whites from Pennsylvania are german, german is still spoken in a couple of communities.
                And more importantly, your posts don't give priority to what a guy from there would give importance to.
                You post like a butthurt east euro or some shithole tankie.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >So really, you think I am a Russian?
                No, Russians hardly use this site and when they do, they’re incomprehensible. You are most likely an Indian or SEA.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                LMAO what a tragic fate that'd be.

                Dmitri, you've been calling yourself an "Anglo-saxon" with the same "I don't like calling myself an American or an Englishman." line for hours now, take a vodka break

                It's true regardless.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ussians hardly use this site
                you're wrong about that one, they just don't post on this board with is home for the poorest of all 4ch.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >WHY did they not go for the USSR when they invaded Poland alongside Germany
                There were thoughts to do so when Winter War happened. Allies just decided to wait a bit and it paid off - in less than 2 years Germany itself attacked the USSR.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, fuck off you are being obstinate.

                Weeks, A. L. (2004). Russia's Life-saver: Lend-lease Aid to the USSR in World War II. Lexington Books.

                Kucherenko, O. (2021). Lend-Lease in war and Russian memory. In The Memory of the Second World War in Soviet and Post-Soviet Russia (pp. 155-179). Routledge.

                Nikolai Ryzhkov, the last head of the government of the Soviet Union, wrote in 2015 that "it can be confidently stated that [Lend-Lease assistance] did not play a decisive role in the Great Victory."

                Such assessments, however, are contradicted by the opinions of Soviet war participants. Most famously, Soviet dictator Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.

                "I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."

                Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.

                "If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."

                The memoirs of Khrushchev:
                http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/khruschev1/28.html

                now fuck off

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The United States is a country of machines
                Almost poetically put. Ig gives you some insight on the forma mentis of those people in those times, too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe actually give a source then and not a blogpost that says the lend-lease was no big deal. It's in your very link. Yet I am supposed to think that these whispers about it being the best thing ever for the USSR is the true historical perspective? Get out of here with that wikipedia-tier source linking.

                >"In a hypothetical battle one-on-one between the U.S.S.R and Germany, without the help of Lend-Lease and without the diversion of significant forces of the Luftwaffe and the German Navy and the diversion of more than one-quarter of its land forces in the fight against Britain and the United States, Stalin could hardly have beaten Hitler," Sokolov wrote in an essay for RFE/RL's Russian Service.
                https://www.svoboda.org/a/30538060.html

                >In 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder. And how much steel! Could we really have set up the production of our tanks without American steel? And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own."
                http://loveread.me/read_book.php?id=51948&p=36

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >In a confidential interview with the wartime correspondent Konstantin Simonov, the Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov is quoted as saying:
                >Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war

                >Nikita Khrushchev, future premier of the USSR, admitted in his memoirs that Lend-Lease was vital: “Just imagine how we would have advanced from Stalingrad to Berlin without [American transport]. Our losses would have been colossal because we would have had no manoeuvrability...Without [US food supplies] we wouldn’t have been able to feed our army. We had lost our most fertile lands — the Ukraine and the northern Caucasus.”
                >Khrushchev went further and admitted: “Several times I heard Stalin acknowledge [Lend-Lease] within the small circle of people around him. He said that...if we had had to deal with Germany one-to-one we would not have been able to cope because we lost so much of our country.”
                >Perhaps the last word should be left to Marshal Georgy Zhukov, who masterminded the Red Army victories. He admitted, in a bugged conversation in 1963, that without Lend-Lease the USSR “could not have continued the war”.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >All the stuff the USSR used was Soviet
                No, all the stuff they put in their propaganda reels was Soviet. They made use of a fuckload of US and British planes and tanks, up to ~30%. But the real help was that all their logistics was built on the back of US and British trains and trucks, most of their food was being grown in the US and Canada and don't even get me started on shit like boots.

                USSR purposely made out post war that they did it all on their own, but records of candid conversations and the delivery paperwork says otherwise

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Weird. How did the USSR beat Nazi Germany but modern Russia can't beat Ukraine?
                The west backed Russia during WW2
                The west is currently backing Ukraine
                I think you should be able to figure out the rest

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Russia would have lost ww2 in 4 months if it wasn't for the USA literally running their entire war economy, for free. What a waste too, we didn't need those fucks to beat hitler but FDR is a cuck who burns in hell for selling out to socialism and extending the depression for 7 years. Fuck that cripple cunt, I'd go back in time just to kill him and make sure ike leads the entire war.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >How did the USSR beat Nazi Germany but modern Russia can't beat Ukraine?
                Why spend money on military when you can buy newest superyatch or build massive dacha.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because fighting defense is easier.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The USSR wasn't modern-day Russia.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if it leveraged its full forces.
                This is it mang. The full forces.
                Only thing they could add is untrained conscript waves, but those would not do anything.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Shit, apparently the new divisions that Russia has been training to send to Ukraine are only getting 3-4 weeks of training. They won't be very combat effective.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Even if he is doing it for all those reasons it does not change the fact that he is currently stuck in an incredibly destructive war in Ukraine, which makes these plans terrible plans as well for the exact same reason

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think the problem is that Russia really seems to have not planned at all for the possibility of them failing to take Kyiv in 3 days or failing to achieve any real objectives in the first month. Putin/Russia was huffing so much of their own domestic propaganda they couldn't possible see it happening. Now they are stuck with at best a pyrrhic victory just to try and save what little face they can at this point. I could see Russia dragging it out for a few years until they can spin some extremely minor success as a win and then leave in a hurry. I doubt Russia will have the ability to hold onto any of the small gains they have made long term. They would have the be in Ukraine perpetually for that to happen.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What if Putin's plan isn't to help Russia prosper, but to fuck shit up for everybody?
                Like people have been telling you from the start?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                well then he has failed at that as well
                Ukraine is pretty fucked up, sure, but they will get Marshall plan'd up to first world status once the infestation is dealt with
                Everyone else is doing just fine, except Russia of course.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Russia is not using many at all because they want to drag this war on and on and on for propaganda reasons to get the We
              You are retarded if you think any super power in the world ever wanted a war with economic sanctions to continue for longer periods. The sooner the war is over for putin the sooner he can begin the pivot to restablishment of normalized relations with the west.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >both sides
      >war is boring so let's focus on something less humiliating for Russia

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What's your point?

        Combat troops usually amount to less than 10% of the total number that are "in theater" or nearby in a supporting role.

        I am aware. So how many does each side have?

        [...]

        lol cute dance I guess.

        >It's boring

        Sure thing. Russia's fucking up and it's kino

        Just a random tank rolling on fire? What happened to it? lol

        We don't know how many "combat troops" there are exactly, considering that Russia loves to split up its armed forces into a lot of smaller, specialised portions (e.g. there are Railway Troops).
        We also don't know how accurate the official numbers are and what the casualties are.
        Based on (unreliable) numbers from mostly Russian sources, we can speculate on how many have "entered" Ukraine (including it's territorial waters and airspace) - at least 500k combatants, including mechanized infantry, tank crews, artillerymen, air pilots and sailors. This includes the combat elements of VDV (Airborne), Morskaya (Marines), conventional ground forces, Rosgvardia (National Guard equivalent), airfield guard units and some of the "frontline" elements from the Railway Troops, logistics troops tha need to go to the front, etc.
        Many more are safely away from the front but still take an active role in the war, e.g. everybody in Strategic Missile troops and most of the VVS (Airforce).

        Ok, so then what are the combat ratios of each army? 3:1? 10:1? What?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          We know even less about Ukraine's numbers than Russia's. Purely by the official size of their reserves it's something like 1-2 in favor of Russia (assuming that most of the navy and a lot of the garrison troops cannot be sent to Ukraine for obvious reasons).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's boring

      Sure thing. Russia's fucking up and it's kino

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ork turbo jets! If they paint the tank red, it'll be unstoppable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i imagine everyone inside that BMP is roasted

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Some retarded farted something about "first line of defence", and everyone is reposting it. Cool story bros.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >piggers cross the river on dinghies
    >get repelled instantly
    Wow this huge counteroffensive was sure worth the wait! garden gnomelensky for the win!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Man, maybe this is why the Russians keep insisting that their ships were killed by fake parts from Poland. More embarrassing to admit that their "brothers" are better at fighting than they are than to just blame it on their own incompetence.
      Maybe that's WHY their "brother nation" is better at fighting than they are.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >its real this time!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No no we're past this plot, we've moved on to mass Ukrainian desertions on the frontline.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >UKRAINE IS LYING
    >I only believe the trustful sources like RT, Sputnik, or Intel Slava Z
    Ok, vatnik

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ork positions under fire somewhere in #Kherson region
    >https://twitter.com/roflchatgroup/status/1564275070851235845

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you go first
      >6 bros get exploded
      >nope fuck that!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What was that. That was pin perfect

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like a lucky mortar hit by the size of the blast.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe if they hadn't built their trench in a straight fucking line they wouldn't have all been annihilated by an artillery hit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fucking hell i cant imagine what a nightmare this must be

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >it's a twitter hoax
    >nothing is happening
    >actually the Ukies are having a mass desertion and all their soldiers are going to the front to surrender
    I wonder what the next one is going to be.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There seems to be a deep push for Nova K:

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1564274795146932224

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Further update, seems like it's going really bad there atm for Russia. BIG if true, but I've never seen Girkin post fake new about real-time battles

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ah man if the ukies make it to the dnieper somehow the butthurt from the vatniks will be amazing

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    holy shit liveuamap just lit up around kherson with artillery shelling

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING THEY ARE ACTUALLY TAKING IT

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      more like gaping it
      aahahahah

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Doubt its as big as people are making it out to be. But any push is good as long ss it doesn't mean suicide missions.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Man I hope someone is taking screencaps of all this Vatnik cope in case the Ukies actually pull this shit off.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God, please let ukies cauldron the russkies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This might be like the Kyiv feint all over again. Russian forces start to be surrounded then they GTFO as fast as they can. This time they can't take the equipment with them though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How many would even be able to get across, even the newest pontoon bridge didn't look nearly completed yet.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It was nearly done so it might be completed by now, but even if it isn't they still have that ferry
          To answer your question, not much

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          All they have right now are two ferries. Most of them would quite literally have to swim.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >then they GTFO as fast as they can
        but... last time they had the russian border behind them
        this time it's a river

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If the Russians stand their ground will this be like Mariupol?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I really doubt they have the same morale as Azov. They will break much faster. Especially entrenched in a hostile city.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        someone should airdrop some AKs and RPG7s inside Kherson

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It could be but the Ukies in Mariupol were fighting to defend their country. I kind of the doubt the average Russian/DPR/whatever soldier in Kherson will be willing to put up that much of a fight before running/surrendering.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >stratcom making a tweet
    >shill overload
    Might actually be happening

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    itt:

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    @54950729
    Ok he's just acting obtuse

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Ok he's just acting obtuse

      Newest Russian shill strategy I guess. Fuck Russia

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's not Willy Pete, though. Those are 9M22S Grad rockets. Pic relevant, those small sections are hexagonal cups made out of an aluminium/magnesium alloy and filled with thermite.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GAVINS ARE LEADING THE CHARGE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kino, the aluminum shitboxes are finally seeing some use again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      SPARKSHATERS ON SUICIDE WATCH

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bet those are the fucking Kangos the Aussies pawned off on Ukraine. Finally, they'll die in a blaze of glory
      >good riddance

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dutch YPR-765

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Dutch YPR-765
          finally killing slavs like they were always meant to.

          bring a tear to my eye

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/0EhCeP6.jpg

          >Dutch YPR-765
          finally killing slavs like they were always meant to.

          bring a tear to my eye

          Thanks. Now that I've seen it, that MG "turret" is a dead giveaway

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >War over "Breadbasket of the world" is fought in a literal wheat field

      Kino

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They've had a couple of somewhat iconic photos already.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Now that I noticed it you can even see the Russian pot helmet is already partially crushed in from even back then.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Krumpsh'd

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Why even wear a helmet that can't even protect against the most basic of human attacks of skull against skull?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the tank turret skull will forever be the best piece of photography to come from this war

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ALLEDEGDLY the Donbabwean skirmish line just outright packed up and left during the early hours of the offensive, their VEDEHVEH support followed suit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kino pic, wheres it from?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      war might be hell, but i wont lie, theres some beauty in a photo like this, soldiers and their armored transports charging into the burning horizon

      i dont want to romanticize war, the russians did that, its part of the reason why this disaster happened in the first place, but it can be hard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >charging on foot under artillery fire across a plain steppe with no cover
      There are hundreds of dead, aren't there.
      It's just commie human wave tactics.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >thinking that picture is more than just propaganda
        The war's boring. Russia and Ukraine are doing nothing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Syria was aesthetic, this .ua war is pure trash from media perspective.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Bingo. Couldn't agree more. How can modern M.E. wars be so based and modern European wars be so cringe?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        These are standard Cold War tactics. You dismount the vehicles and spread out when you expect to come under fire.
        Even Russian doctrine emphasizes that.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder: this is the future

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even the AI knows that the Russian military are a bunch of dysgenic mongols and assorted Asiatics

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      NOT SO FAST BROTHER

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        OH YEAAAAAAAAAH I SEE THAT PUTIN KEK I SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Chad Ukrainians will literally saw off the tops of churches to use them as hats.

      At least this one is identifiably Moscow

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >6 months into the war, Russian troops in Kiev only exist in AI-generated images

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >vatniks resorting to openly posting literal ai photoshops to cope
      good fucking lord

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    @54948935
    @54949109
    >4chan tourist does not understand the difference between a Strategic Counter-offensive that lasts months and the tactical actions under it
    Why are you gays here?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >@
      Go back.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nice counterargument gay

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You do that to avoid giving (You), reddit.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How long before ziggers start saying that Kherson wasn't important and they didn't even need it anyway?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally the most important thing, though. they would combust from the amount of cognitive dissonance. russians know this and will do everything they can to hold onto it.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Nikolai Ryzhkov, the last head of the government of the Soviet Union, wrote in 2015 that "it can be confidently stated that [Lend-Lease assistance] did not play a decisive role in the Great Victory."
    Wow, that lend-lease was sure important....

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vatmorons bite the hand that feeds them, what else is new?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Putin anus licker is licking Putin’s anal fluids that say Stalin did noffin wrong like the Purges and Katyn and that Lend-Lease was pointless
      Jesus let’s nuke these morons already, I’m getting annoyed with this verbal dysentery

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Vatmorons bite the hand that feeds them, what else is new?

        People are citing Soviet sources to prove lend-lease worked, yet I have just as many saying it was basically marginal at best between 3-5% of the USSR's production with numbers to back it up. All the lend-lease shills are saying "ooo, Stalin didn't leave any notes about it, but he totally whispered to me and his inner circle that this is what won us the war" is a nothingburger.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So if your mind is made up why are you still posting? Put a fucking gun in your mouth and have a nice day in your brain already.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Your source was 10 years old at the start of WW2 and made his comments in 2015 when the Russian state (which he is a part of in his capacity as a politician) had long since down played the contribution of others to the eventual victory in WW2.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > The tard you're responding to is concern trolling anon. He knows, he does not care. He is actively doing the same thing, downplaying the contribution of others.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah anon, I'm sure that literal trillions of dollars in food, fuel, tens of thousands of airframes, logistics enabling cargo, railways, trucks, and explosives definitely didn't help at all. Everything before Stalingrad and that silly lend lease that coincidentally enabled that key victory is fake.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Numbers that you can't back up because all blogposts that mention these big numbers don't list sources either and have quotes from leaders who also say a contrary opinion.

            My, how convincing.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Question anon - where are you from?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The United States. Pennsylvania. I am a Republican and Anglo-Saxon.

                >The United States is a country of machines
                Almost poetically put. Ig gives you some insight on the forma mentis of those people in those times, too.

                I found that quote childish and snide, but I get what he was TRYING to say...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The United States. Pennsylvania. I am a Republican and Anglo-Saxon.
                trying too hard

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >unironically oblastposting

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I am a Republican and Anglo-Saxon.
                Try to do not post a borderline parody, next time.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, only vatniks use the phrase "anglo-saxon", try harder next time sweaty

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am proud of being Anglo-Saxon. Hence why it's sad to hear how many people wanted to kill off Germany so fucking bad.

                >Yet Poland was still under the USSR at the end of the war.
                Wdym "under the USSR"? The whole central Europe was under the USSR in that case.

                USSR abused Poland just as bad as Germany, but the entire reason the allies went to war was to protect its sovereignty and dignity from molestation. So they just declare war on Germany? Imagine being Poland and still trusting the West.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A real anglo would never say that. Post saex.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A real Anglo wouldn't call himself one? Why don't you ask me about my policies on calling myself "English" or "American?" I am more proud of being an Anglo-Saxon than anything else and think that modern GB abuses us by saying we don't exist. You're kinda doing that too in a way.

                >USSR abused Poland just as bad as Germany, but the entire reason the allies went to war was to protect its sovereignty and dignity from molestation. So they just declare war on Germany? Imagine being Poland and still trusting the West.
                This would be a pole talking point or some east euro's familiar with poles.
                You are a liar.

                My best friend is Polish. You accusing me of being a Pole is doing zero to address the point that the West let Poland swing rather than fight the USSR over their rape of the nation.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I am more proud of being an Anglo-Saxon
                PRIVYET COMRADE I AM OF ANGLO-SAXON BANDERITE

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Priviet, fellow Anglo-tovarish. How are the clouds in London?

                >the entire reason the allies went to war was to protect its sovereignty and dignity from molestation
                The entire reason was to stop Hitler, no more and no less. Allies didn't like the Soviets at all, but they couldn't afford another full-scale war against a newborn superpower, especially after nukes were invented, which doesn't mean they didn't consider that option (operation "Unthinkable" and like the whole Cold War stuff)

                A newborn superpower they let happen during WW2 with their aid. What a load of shit. Allies should have just DW'd Germany and have at them rather than jack it like they're saving poor Poland.

                https://i.imgur.com/t8U4GSq.png

                You may be genuinely unfamiliar with WWII but this is how you come across

                Are the Ruskies under your bed, Anon?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Allies should have just DW'd Germany and have at them rather than jack it like they're saving poor Poland
                Yeah, forgot to ask you. I wonder why you do not bring the phoney war point.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah, forgot to ask you. I wonder why you do not bring the phoney war point.
                What?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Bitches endlessly about Britain and France declaring war on Germany and doing nothing for a year.
                >Doesn't know what the Phoney War is.
                You know far less about WWII than you enjoy pretending you do.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Whateva bro. You want to talk about something?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Russians? In this thread about a Russian war?

                It's more likely than you might think

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                More or less it's the insistence that they're everywhere. But yeah.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you just sound like a yank

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am one. Anglo-Saxon man.

                Why do Americans have to add all this bullshit to "American"

                I don't. It's an old concept to try to balance "diversity" and "American" at the same time.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >USSR abused Poland just as bad as Germany, but the entire reason the allies went to war was to protect its sovereignty and dignity from molestation. So they just declare war on Germany? Imagine being Poland and still trusting the West.
                This would be a pole talking point or some east euro's familiar with poles.
                You are a liar.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the entire reason the allies went to war was to protect its sovereignty and dignity from molestation
                The entire reason was to stop Hitler, no more and no less. Allies didn't like the Soviets at all, but they couldn't afford another full-scale war against a newborn superpower, especially after nukes were invented, which doesn't mean they didn't consider that option (operation "Unthinkable" and like the whole Cold War stuff)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >American
                >Online
                >Thinks we ever unironically refer to ourselves as "Anglo-Saxons"
                You gave up the game, Kiril.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because I like calling myself Anglo-Saxon. I don't like calling myself an American or an Englishman.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dmitri, you've been calling yourself an "Anglo-saxon" with the same "I don't like calling myself an American or an Englishman." line for hours now, take a vodka break

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >It says in Wikipedia the soviets produced 100 brazilion tanks and trucks

          it's dishonest to compared percentages, the lend-lease program was essential because it gave time for a semi rural shithole like the soviet union to panic industrialize and built factories from scratch to the far east.
          Obviously once the soviet production capabilities went into overdrive, the numbers were insignificant, but what about before?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >he totally whispered to me and his inner circle
          Khrushchev, who fought against the Nazis in Kiev and was appointed by Stalin to be the main link between him and the military, said so
          You are being intentionally bad faith
          Khrushchev's memoirs are a trustworthy source. Zhukov is trustworthy in these matters as well. Stalinist revisionism and 1990s politicians aren't.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Stalin, Khrushchev, Zhukov in private: lend-lease was decisive
      >Stalinist propaganda and a bunch of literally whos repeating it:

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Stalin, Khrushchev, Zhukov when buttering up dumb westerners: lend-lease was decisive

        FTFY. You people still fail to internalize that they always lied in some way.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    @54951041
    >newfag doesn't know about denying (You)s to shills
    It also fucks with posters using apps while phoneposting.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >kherson counter offensive is happening
    >commie dicksucker derails thread and drives bump limit talking about lend-lease
    You just fell for the trap

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a thought exercise anon, they are like pit pullers

      I accept that surrender, too.

      [...]
      So you'll support the secret whispers argument over the raw numbers one even though they both come from politicians? Very facts-based and cool.

      [...]
      >Obviously once the soviet production capabilities went into overdrive, the numbers were insignificant, but what about before?
      Finally we are getting somewhere. The USSR never had the chance to even do anything with the 3-5% of resources from the allies outside of localized relief because the Germans had already lost the war at that point (they didn't know it yet) as they failed to reach all of their objectives in the first year. There's no way Stalin's forces could have lost WW2 when Hitler was leading the opposition. Probably anyone else could have done a better job than him.

      [...]
      >The Short History Of The Great Patriotic War, also from 1948, acknowledged the Lend-Lease shipments, but concluded: "Overall this assistance was not significant enough to in any way exert a decisive influence over the course of the Great Patriotic War."

      Literally from 1948 is post-Stalin revisionism to you?

      You got BTFO kek

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >kek lul jej
        Very smooth.

        Tankie alert

        Because....?

        >All the stuff the USSR used was Soviet
        No, all the stuff they put in their propaganda reels was Soviet. They made use of a fuckload of US and British planes and tanks, up to ~30%. But the real help was that all their logistics was built on the back of US and British trains and trucks, most of their food was being grown in the US and Canada and don't even get me started on shit like boots.

        USSR purposely made out post war that they did it all on their own, but records of candid conversations and the delivery paperwork says otherwise

        So the USSR gets support from a nation that hates it and wanted it to fall to the Whites in the Civil War, but then the Cold War breaks out and they just go back to subverting one another? Wow, very based USA.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >So the USSR...
          Literally yes, lmao. There was a brief period where it looked like we might all be able to get along post war, but then the USSR decided to go all iron curtain authoritarian instead of liberalising in peacetime, so we got the cold war.

          Are you 14? You're typing like you've never read a book on cold war history.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Literally just stop responding to him, he has been thoroughly btfo several times. You are falling for bait. Stop it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Because....?
          Because you repeat ad verbatim the same retarded talking points, for one.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Then don't bother to reply.

            >The United States. Pennsylvania. I am a Republican and Anglo-Saxon.
            trying too hard

            https://i.imgur.com/eGFkESt.jpg

            >unironically oblastposting

            >I am a Republican and Anglo-Saxon.
            Try to do not post a borderline parody, next time.

            I know that my country is getting mutted to death, but I didn't think there'd be that much doubt about this shit.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >nuh-uh
              >le demoralisation
              You already gave up, Ivan.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just two more weeks

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So they really scheduled it just after the Ukrainian Independence Day. I don't find this coincidental.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing is happening guys. Move along.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      NVM. It was happening but is already over.
      Now move along.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Forgot pic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >a gesture of goodwill

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Petushki is getting too smart for his own good

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Clearly amerikanski spy. I checked again and his comment was successfully denazified.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Kek, Ivan Vyshakov better be prepared next

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Kek, Ivan Vyshakov better be prepared next

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >There is no attack

      https://i.imgur.com/GjwdEnO.png

      Forgot pic.

      >BTW the non-happening attack, who didnt existed, was a failure!
      That was quick!

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    some good news from kherson

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It must suck to be a Russian knowing most of the civilized world is cheering for your crushing defeat. Hell, it must suck knowing that any product you consume developed in those nations was made by people who hate you. Watching a movie made in the West? The director and actors probably hate you. Listening to a song recorded in the West? The singers and musicians probably hate you. Watching Youtube? Both its developers and most of the content creators hate you. Watching Twitch? Most of the streamers hate you. Using Reddit? Most other redditors hate you. We could be generous and say most hate your government as opposed to you personally, but if you're the type to post pro-Russian propaganda, then they hate you personally

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So it's like being gnomish?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly I pity the russians, any russian that has the means to do so should abandon their country as soon as possible.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tho not before next summer if they want to stay warm.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think this whole "europe is gonna freeze this winted" this is exaggerated, it'll be completely fine, maybe a bit colder than usual but nothing that can be fixed by wearing more layers, and if you really don't like the cold then you can just move to a mediterranean country, I live in one and the winter is so mild that I do not use heating.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >wearing more layers
            yeah, slava ukraini I guess

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://streamable.com/la6yex

    Georgian's from Kherson are reporting about offensive

    >it's 29th of august, georgian partisans from 56 brigade 17th batallion have breached front lines, we fucked them up, Long alive georgian partisans!

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