Someone explain what the fuck a suicide drone does any different than a guided missile.

Someone explain what the frick a suicide drone does any different than a guided missile.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Loitering

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if only missiles could be placed on a flying platform capable of either circling and waiting for orders or hovering and finding targets themselves

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Planes/aircrew are expensive and extremely difficult to replace. It’s much less risky to use a drone, even an expensive one. Especially in places where the airspace is contested (Ukraine) it’s just way too dangerous to have actual manned aircraft loitering around.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Planes/aircrew are expensive and extremely difficult to replace
          and of course they are harder to shoot down and only sacrifice the actual projectile when firing

          > Especially in places where the airspace is contested (Ukraine) it’s just way too dangerous to have actual manned aircraft loitering around
          if its too dangerous for a plane, its too dangerous for a drone
          just use a plane

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if its too dangerous for a plane, its too dangerous for a drone
            moron

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you fricking moronic?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That sounds expensive.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It was. But by the late 2010's mass market consumer drone tech did what it does best, gets smaller and cheaper.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're not building a missile carrying platform that is cheaper than the AA missiles that's gonna take it out.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Probably why they're using small, non missile carrying drones that are cheaper than the AA missile

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't need to use missiles. You can use a $600 drone to drop mortar shells or Recoiless rifle shaped charges from the 60s and easily kill weapon systems worth 4,000 times more than your drones. Immensely cost effective even if they're less consistently dangerous than really nice guided missiles.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For the cost of one Apache helicopter you can produce like 30000 drones lmao, for the time it takes to train 1 attack helicopter crew you can train 1000 drone operators

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If we take price of an AH64 ca 55M$ then according to this campaign https://www.dronynemesis.cz/ you could actually get around 137500 drones. Probably more.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do we know how many drones are in operation in Ukraine? How would you even stop an attack of 137500 drones, and that's for only one helicopter

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How much does that platform cost per flight hour in terms of fuel and maintenance I wonder?

        How much would that platform cost to replace if it were to be shot down I wonder?

        How much actual usable loitering time does that platform have I wonder?

        How fricking stupid is op I wonder?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if only missiles could be placed on a flying platform capable of either circling and waiting for orders or hovering and finding targets themselves

      That sounds expensive.

      >The Delilah is an air-launched stand-off missile and cruise missile with a range of 250 km
      >It has a turbo jet engine that is able to loiter
      >the Delilah possesses an ability to search for, identify, and loiter over targets. The ability to loiter, more commonly associated with UAVs, gives the missile’s operator the option to perform multiple passes over a target before committing to an attack. Loitering, moreover, makes it easier to locate camouflaged or moving targets, such as mobile air defense and artillery platforms

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And costs a million bucks per missile while a long range drone bomb costs about 50.000

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >250km
          >CEP of 1m
          >loitering capabilities
          >Mach 0.3-0.7 (Dive: Mach 0.85)

          it's worth the cost. show me a drone thaat costs 50k with these capabilities

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You don't need those capabilities for most missions. Not everyone is the US, who can afford to throw 2 million dollar missiles at every goat farmer who looks at them funny.

            Suicide Drones are the AK of the air support world. They aren't the best, and they aren't the fanciest, but they are good enough most of the time and absurdly dirt cheap.

            For a nation or insurgency on a budget, cheap and good enough beats the best and blingiest every day of the week. Hence why everyone who wants to win wars but can't afford NATO tier airpower is spamming that shit as hard as they can.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Much like the difference between a tiger and a house-cat: technically the same family, effectivelly different leagues of abilities:
        >Range
        >Speed
        >Vulnerability to countermeasures
        >Available warhead size
        >Available warhead type
        >Operating platform (infantry/light vehicle/heavy vehicle/ air vehicle)
        >Loitering (some missiles can loiter, see )
        >Price

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most "suicide drones", as the general public and press would call them, do not loiter.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wouldn't that just make it a tgm?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can get three switchblades for the cost of one hellfire. and you can get a shitload of DIY suicide drones for that much too

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Provide 85% of the effect for 5% of the cost. Also loiter, gather real time intelligence while looking for targets and be reusable most of the time when no target is engaged.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >eusable most of the time when no target is engaged.
      i wonder if there's been blue on blue casualties from kamikaze drones flying back to friendly lines for batteries or whatever and it fricking explodes

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good question. The dud rate is also something I would be interested in.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is the guerrilla's guided missile. Costs under a thousand bucks to manufacture and is especially inexpensive if you manufacture your own payload such as a sodium chlorate explosive from batteries, salt water, and vaseline.

    These things can destroy tanks worth millions of dollars for the cost of a single rifle. Cost efficiency also means they can be manufactured at scale. Now imagine the swarms that can be manufactured by conventional forces with even a small military budget.

    That is why they call guerrilla warfare the war of the future. It requires improvisation and resourcefulness, and the proven concepts are eventually adopted by conventional forces.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guided missiles only stay in the air for a few seconds and are automatically guided to their targets by being "painted" with a laser or homing in a radiation source, such as the radio waves being emitted by a radar or the thermal radiation (heat) emitted by an aircraft's engine.

    Suicide drones can loiter for many hours before being fired and are guided to their targets via manual control of the operator (i.e. literally flying it into the target).

    In practice, a drone is harder to use since it requires human input (and therefore being susceptible to human error and much more susceptible to jamming) but the tradeoff is that it allows for much greater liberty in terms of target selection (i.e. you can use a drone on a person rather than a building or vehicle) and requires far less complicated technology to produce.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's called convergent evolution. Missile evolves from rocket, while drone evolves from aircraft.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wait. ichthyosaur is a fricking reptile? WAT

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it literally means "fish lizard" moron

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's pretty easy to figure out in Greek, it literally translates to "fish lizard"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yup! At the time mammals were just starting to evolve and were mostly small burrowers. It would be a long time before mammals would colonize aquatic environments.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      those are three fish moron

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lets the operator sits on a comfy chair, somewhere in safe for a starter, dumbass

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you can't get guided missiles from aliexpress

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a missile but instead of a rocket motor it has a shitty propeller powered by an electric motor.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The correct answer (though sometimes the motor is diesel, but in any case non-jet). To answer the next question op is about to ask: it became possible due to electronics getting cheaper year after year thanks to consumer electronics sector.
      The original propeller airplanes could not compete with jets because pilot training was a big expense article. Drones did away with the need for pilots, making propeller technology resurge from the dead.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drones are much more energy efficient in flight on top of having cheaper propulsion, that means they can loiter and they cost far less. The flipside is that they're slow.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >whats the difference between hummingbirds and like every other animal on earth?

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Costs a 25th of the amount.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The difference is semantics with the only common difference being command guidance vs passive homing but soon drones will also have passive homing making the difference pure semantics.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can use drones without any concrete intel on enemy armor and gather it on the fly.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When the US spends 5mil to launch a hellfire it's based and high tech and cool.
    When a jihadist uses 1.5k to launch a DJI drone (with more payload than a hellfire lmao) and blow up something it's poor and cringe.

    that's basically it

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cost efficiency.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cheap recon drones can be handed out to squads to improve situational awareness and drop granades nearby.
    >proper attack drones can stay in the air for days since the crew doesen't get tired
    >random suicide drones with AT ammo crashing into tanks are inferior to guided missles but are dirt cheap

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    be cheap

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cheap enough that third world countries can spam them with minimal investment, even if their actual capabilities aren't that great.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A suicide drone knows where it is at all times. It knows this because Sergey knows where it isn't.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cost 100 times less

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