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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When are we getting Droneshot cartridges?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Here ya go pal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They've been around for a while, Taufledermaus tested them a few years ago on YT.

      https://i.imgur.com/RBbjRLl.jpg

      Would steel slugs be a good choice for this? Or are lead slugs fine for this and, say, oh I dunno, AI controlled vehicle engine blocks?

      Can you shoot steel slugs from just about any shotgun or do you need a specific kind of barrel?

      ?si=sXdyb5dLu4wyFdN3

      Steel slugs, like steel shot, are worse than lead because the metal is less dense. They exist only for environmental safety reasons--steel is the cheapest non-toxic alternative. If you wanted an upgrade from lead then you would want something denser, like tungsten. Tungsten shot is a thing, it's just expensive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        All I’m seeing is waterfowl tungsten shot.

        Look man, if there was an armored AI controlled vehicle approaching our compound made out of an ammunition warehouse, and I said quick go grab something for our shotguns to take down this evil machine, what would you run and grab?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >All I’m seeing is waterfowl tungsten shot.
          Well yeah, the point of it is to get around legal bans, and those apply to waterfowl only. You can't hunt ducks with lead, but you can shoot any other game with lead just fine. So yeah, waterfowl hunting would be its most common application. That said, it does exist as buckshot as well. Look up "hevi-shot" as it often goes by that name.

          > what would you run and grab?
          A rifle.
          If for some moronic reason we only had shotguns? Low recoil 00 and go to town, it doesn't appear to be armored at all.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I didn’t see any steel Buck shot. The biggest size is F, which are .22 pellets, but it looks like they might be outlawed

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I didn’t see any steel Buck shot.
              That doesn't exist. I'm not sure how many times I need to say this: the only application for steel shot is waterfowl hunting, and the reason derives from environmental laws designed to keep lead out of wetlands. These laws don't apply to other kinds of hunting or for self-defense so people use lead for those things.
              Tungsten buckshot exists as a premium hunting load but nobody makes steel buckshot because that would just be terrible with no legal requirement.

              Anyway, here's some tungsten 00, but really it makes sense to use smaller shot. Since tungsten is denser than lead you can get the same ballistic performance out of a smaller pellet, which means you can put more of them in your shell, and that means more hits on target and a greater effective range.
              https://www.hevishot.com/predator/dead-coyote/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Good shit anon thank you

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >$10 a shot now
                There is not a single coyote out there worth expending that much money to kill.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ironic, considering this thread exist, robo-kun

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that fricking Goldman?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To prodeck the lyof cygle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you wont be able to see drones quick enough to shoot them. you would basically need someone staring at the sky 24/7

      its not feasible and you are not a useful team member.

      *drop VOG from 150m*
      *watches you writhe in pain*
      *operator giggles*

      *solves drones but way cheaper and more entertaining*

      watching what? fpvs? too late.
      And the spotter drone probably is too far to be visible. And even if you see the drone, what would you do? pray?

      https://i.imgur.com/2N2iufY.jpg

      Stop being moronic please for the love of god. Even a cheaper drone will be able to detect and engage you before you can.

      >drone hovers 200-300m above your head
      >out of hearing range and likely visual range
      >even if you saw it your birdshot isn't going to land at that distance especially if its from a 410 like the one you posted in your op
      >drops grenade on you

      Fricking have a nice day you noguns vidya playing homosexual. You've never touched a firearm in your life

      the solution here is more EW

      VIRGINS LEAVE
      NOW

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        impressiev

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wowee, staged footage to make the troops feel less scared

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you wont be able to see drones quick enough to shoot them. you would basically need someone staring at the sky 24/7

    its not feasible and you are not a useful team member.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If drones are a serious enough threat why not have one guy watching the sky

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >get's killed by drones
        >dedicated team member preventing this from happening isn't useful

        brother, with all due respect, you're the dumbest mother fricker that's ever lived.

        >rodriguez, stare at the sky all day and look for drones!

        cmon bros

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          a southern duck hunter with a can full of dip, military prescribed amphetamines and a 12 gauge he knows the pattern of, he'd be shooting reaper drones with slugs in his spare time man.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Reminds me of this story about the British Home Guard:
            >Another volunteer, an old man wearing an ancient uniform of the great war and carrying a Ross rifle, a relic of the same, was challenged on how he would deal with a Hun paratroop. He responded by chambering a single cartridge and shooting a crow flying overhead. Exit questioner and crow; the former abashed, the latter bashed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So you don’t know how big a reaper drone is or how high it flies huh

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              thatisthejoke.jpg
              really anon? Are you that autistic?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry anon there are just so many morons on here that I took your post for the genuine article

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >rodriguez, stare at the sky all day and look for drones!
          what do you think frontline AA gunners did during WW2?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes? What else are they doing on the battlefield all day?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >RAMIREZ! DEFEND BURGERTOWN FROM THOSE DRONES
          >USE YOUR SHOTGUN!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        watching what? fpvs? too late.
        And the spotter drone probably is too far to be visible. And even if you see the drone, what would you do? pray?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >get's killed by drones
      >dedicated team member preventing this from happening isn't useful

      brother, with all due respect, you're the dumbest mother fricker that's ever lived.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I don't see this drone problem going away any time soon. Coming up with solutions to them is almost certainly going to be vital to success in any future conflicts.

        They'll most likely only be getting more numerous and more advanced from here. Better able to self stabilize and recover from a roll. Better at identifying potential targets. Able to fly to those targets mostly autonomously. Better weapons than just blowing itself up. Like having multiple grenades to drop; calculating their trajectory so they can land on target even while moving at full speed; maybe even firing them on miniature rockets that can correct their course mid flight like tiny missiles.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >maybe even firing them on miniature rockets that can correct their course mid flight like tiny missiles.
          I remember that anime

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      its not feasible to have a grid laser lens pointing up out of your backpack?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You wouldn't. OP would

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why not an anti-drone drone? I don't mean for elimination but just detection, all you need is some phone-tier cameras and a bit of shape recognition code.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your choices are Rodriguez with binoculars, Rodriguez with a modded Apple Vision pro that tracks movement, or automated shoulder mounted camera that tracks movement and alerts troops.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Program equivalent of a hunter’s trail cam with an AI image recognition program for drones.
      >Leave it up.
      >Drone comes by, gets spotted by the camera.
      >Alert’s the shotgun operator that a drone is in the air.
      >Take it out with bird shot.
      >mfw modern warfare is literally duck hunting technology vs drones.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you wont be able to see drones quick enough to shoot them
      theres many clips of vatniks seeing drones and turning tail or begging for mercy you moron

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >*solves drones*
    We've been over this a lot.
    It does not.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    *drop VOG from 150m*
    *watches you writhe in pain*
    *operator giggles*

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Serious question from a dumbass: why not use flechette ammo?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Flechettes lose a lot of their energy over long distances compared to bullets (which are significantly more aerodynamic)

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    *solves drones but way cheaper and more entertaining*

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I usually feel alittle bad for these guys getting killed by drones, but this idiot deserved it. he could have walked away and lived

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I have a feeling that drone operators are going to be treated allt like snipers. If you get captured there is a 0% chance you're making it to a POW camp.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are they recruiting actual fricking cavemen?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They might get a 100 ruble bonus for every drone carcass they hand it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          imagine the ear ringing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Explosion bird scare grugonovich
      Hurt explosion bird
      Grugonovich kill explosion bird
      Explodes
      Much pain

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Would steel slugs be a good choice for this? Or are lead slugs fine for this and, say, oh I dunno, AI controlled vehicle engine blocks?

    Can you shoot steel slugs from just about any shotgun or do you need a specific kind of barrel?

    ?si=sXdyb5dLu4wyFdN3

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Whoever is responsible for this shitty fricking bot, you're a failure and your parents don't love you.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stop being moronic please for the love of god. Even a cheaper drone will be able to detect and engage you before you can.

    >drone hovers 200-300m above your head
    >out of hearing range and likely visual range
    >even if you saw it your birdshot isn't going to land at that distance especially if its from a 410 like the one you posted in your op
    >drops grenade on you

    Fricking have a nice day you noguns vidya playing homosexual. You've never touched a firearm in your life

    the solution here is more EW

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >especially if its from a 410
      True, though it really doesn't matter what it is from. A 4-guage is good to about 70-80 yards per the old timers. If someone were to make modern shotcup wads and used tungsten instead of lead that could probably be pushed a little farther. But not much. I have a book which discusses a modern punt gun with a 10 foot barrel, smokeless powder, firing 24oz of Kent Tungsten Matrix shot being effective against geese up to 120 yards. So even if you upsize the shotgun to an absurd degree you just aren't getting anywhere close to enough range to engage a drone that's spotting or dropping grenades.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        For Droneshot, we're gonna need necked cartridges, boys

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >still cannot detect it to hit them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yeah dude nobody will ever invent a tool for dedicated drone spotters

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Okay then lets see it because your dumbass plan doesn't work without that crucial part

              you can't hit what you cannot see. How you missed something that fundamental is beyond me.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Now, this may surprise you, but you can also equip a soldier with things like "binoculars" and mount "scopes" on shotguns so they can periodically scan for drones. Don't be such a smug moron, it's not flattering, homosexual.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >s so they can periodically scan for drones
                >with binoculars
                Deeply moronic...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If they're going to drop grenades on your head there's only one place they can be

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Uh, no, believe it or not you can spot something grey/black moving across the horizon and use binoculars to identify what it is- ideally before it shows up right over your head.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus christ you're dumb.

                If they're going to drop grenades on your head there's only one place they can be

                >one place they could be
                I don't even know where to start with that one

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                your

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You would start by looking straight up

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you're the Black person flipping out about shotguns

                Uh, no, believe it or not you can spot something grey/black moving across the horizon and use binoculars to identify what it is- ideally before it shows up right over your head.

                Now, this may surprise you, but you can also equip a soldier with things like "binoculars" and mount "scopes" on shotguns so they can periodically scan for drones. Don't be such a smug moron, it's not flattering, homosexual.

                You're not going to do this effectively with a human. I'll play devils advocate. You're going to need a local mini scanner. Even then you need a person to man that scanner and then relay that information to the shotgunners. How are you going to do that? Its not like a SAM where that info is instantly programmed into the missle and then fired. You need to tell a human where an object the size of a dinner plate is in a 3d space with no terrain features to reference hundreds of meters above their head.

                >yeah bro the drone is like somewhere, in the sky 100m elevation, sector 5

                If the scanner system is radar based then now you have a massive radiation emmiting target for missles and arty. If the scanner is visual based then you have a laser that will also draw fire.

                So you're left with some kind of AI scanner that doesn't rely on IR but instead analyzes an insanely high quality video stream or some kind of acoustic analzyer. All of these are very expensive and less accurate than radar

                You think the military is going to sign off on a massively expensive piece of sensor equipment just to have the actual killing equipment be some dude with a shotgun? No they wouldn't because thats moronic. It would be directed by the same system that the scanner is a portion of just like every other modern air defense system.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                wrong file

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                most drones are continuously emitting at 2.4/5.8 GHz with very distinctive patterns and but still simple RF detectors are rare (ukies had some for their HIMARS/arty iirc)
                Those sensors aren't complex or expensive. Maybe too simple right now.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Infantry isn't valuable enough to get any of that besides the shotgun or course

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I know which is why I think the idea is moronic. It doesn't make any sense. It makes about as much sense as the Japs with their anti aircraft sights on Arisakas. Its better than nothing but its still dumb. Good look convincing infantrymen to carry extra equipment that will likely not make a difference. During the invasion of Iraq, soldiers took the doors off humvees because it was annoying to get in and out of. Something that might have made a difference but was ultimately thrown away because it was annoying

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you're the Black person flipping out about shotguns

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I spotted the drone with binocs
                Cool, now what? How are you going to maintain sight of it while you put down the binocs and grab a weapon?

                >I put a high mag scope on my shotgun
                Lol, go try that. See if you can judge your lead looking through a fricking magnified optic.

                You need to go shoot a round of skeet before you post any more about shotguns.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Most of these drones aren't moving fast enough for you to lose line of sight in the three or four seconds it takes to shoulder a shotgun, moron

                Plenty of people hunt with scopes on their shotguns, you stupid homosexual

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Plenty of people hunt with scopes on their shotguns
                I don't think you have otherwise you'd know that magnified optics on shotguns get used for shooting slugs at big game on the ground, not at fast moving air targets like birds.

                I don't think you've ever gone hunting let alone touched a shotgun or any other firearm

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I've got two guns behind me and have owned shotguns, I shoot skeet somewhat regularly, and I know that you can maintain eyes on a moving target at a high altitude far easier than you could at a low altitude. Skeet goes, what, 25 feet up in the air at the peak of the throw? We're talking 600 feet, not 25. We're talking drones who are trying to reach steady positions over targets so they can effectively deliver ordinance. You see those videos of drones dropping grenades on the heads of vatniks? They aren't moving fast, they're standing *still*.

                One of us needs to get their head out of their ass and it's not me.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You know why it was easy? Because it was at 25 feet with no optic narrowing your field of view and screwing with your depth perception.

                We are talking 600 feet which is why you shouldn't be extrapolating the experience of 25 feet to 600. Why don't you own shotguns anymore?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You know why it was easy? Because it was at 25 feet with no optic narrowing your field of view and screwing with your depth perception.

                We are talking 600 feet which is why you shouldn't be extrapolating the experience of 25 feet to 600. Why don't you own shotguns anymore?

                And if it were really that easy and effective why haven't governments with multi-billion dollar think tanks, doctrine and training colleges, intel gathering decided to go with your solution? Could it be that its perhaps moronic? Some anon on an anime website figured out what every single warfighting nation failed to?

                You're getting btfo'd with your shotgun optics thing cause its dumb and all the other morons in this thread know so

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                His specific retort was "you can't see it with a shotgun!" Sure you can. You use glass. It's not easy, but you can.

                >you can also equip a soldier with things like "binoculars" and mount "scopes" on shotguns so they can periodically scan for drones

                You have never used a magnified optic on a rifle in your life and I wish you would frick off to whatever board you crawled here from.

                You know why it was easy? Because it was at 25 feet with no optic narrowing your field of view and screwing with your depth perception.

                We are talking 600 feet which is why you shouldn't be extrapolating the experience of 25 feet to 600. Why don't you own shotguns anymore?

                I've got one on my rifle that I practice with weekly. Not all scopes have the same field of view, moron. You can have a lower powered scope or magnifier/red dot combo for a higher field of view. Nobody is claiming this would be "easy", but it's not "impossible", and it's becoming ever more necessary as more and more drones get made. Where's your fricking idea? Have a drone drop a grenade on your helpless ass because you're too enamored with the AR15 penetrating your colon to think outside the box?

                I had to sell of my shotguns/gun collection before I moved years ago and I'm rebuilding it, FYI.

                The proliferation of small, cheap, low-flying drones is a relatively new problem and the defense industry is more likely to come up with complex, expensive solutions than cheap and simple ones. There are other alternatives to firing bird shot wildly into the air- airbursting grenades, for one.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I shoot skeet somewhat regularly
                Percentage-wise, how often to you shoot a round straight?
                Guess how many FPV drones the squad's shotgun-drone guy gets to miss in a row?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I haven't seen many drone videos where someone misses

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                60, 70% of the time? And if I miss, I don't get any follow-up shots because it slams into the ground a second or two later

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you can also equip a soldier with things like "binoculars" and mount "scopes" on shotguns so they can periodically scan for drones

                You have never used a magnified optic on a rifle in your life and I wish you would frick off to whatever board you crawled here from.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That doesn't help much. Shot has terrible aerodynamics so even very large increases in muzzle velocity only get you only a little bit more range.
          Prox fused AA shells or something like a mini-ciws makes more sense.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I was also thinking some kind of airbursting shell. Maybe we can produce an OICW-type weapon for Dronekillers- a specialized optic and ballistic computer to detect drones and program airbursting shells/grenades to take them down. Maybe a .300 blk SBR on the bottom.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the solution here is more EW
      Your solution is not viable for the same reason that you will not shoot down rockets or drones with big ass loud speakers. You can't direct it well enough.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How do you think EW works?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I imagine Russia doesn't have the logistical capacity to incorporate large-scale usage of shotguns on the front-line.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How long until drone dogfights?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These drones are being operated remotely and sending a video signal back to the operator. If you had an anntena that was sensitive to the frequency it was transmitting on you could detect that signal. If you have multiple soldiers carrying these detectors they could communicate with each other and triangulate the drones position based on the strength of the signal. Having your own drone in the air for detecting other dones could help improve this triangulation. You could then design a system where an incoming drone warning could be sent to your anti-drone soldier's optics as with an arrow pointing to its direction.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Brainlet take.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Squad level CIWS.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://sofrep.com/news/navys-small-missile-with-huge-potential/

      This thing has been kicked around for years. They need to rejigger it for SAM use and give infantry launchers, or have a spotterbot like loaded with them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A million dollar missile to take out $50 costco drones great idea

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's a $5,000 missile, numbnuts, and could probably be made even cheaper.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    90% of the drone footage I have seen is always Ukrainians killing wounded, unarmed, soldiers in the middle of preforming oral acts, or medical personnel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >90% of the drone footage I have seen is always Ukrainians killing is to clean the remaining of combat, arty strike, failed crossing of a minefield
      FTFY

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russian standard issue punt gun enplacements when?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bird shot is ineffective against fowl after about 40 yards, and you think you’re going to shoot down a drone at 300 feet that you never heard or saw? Did you watch any of the ukraine footage? You can’t hear a drone from that far away, but it can still drop a frag on you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I take it it's not like Looney Tunes where the grenade makes a whistling noise before it lands near you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Birdshot is used against fowl because they're typically smaller and larger pellets would totally pulverize them, not for whatever moronic reason you're thinking of. Who the frick would use birdshot against a drone?

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