So WW3 comes, and the world gets its nuclear armageddon. How long would modern weapons still be around for the survivors?

So WW3 comes, and the world gets its nuclear armageddon. How long would modern weapons still be around for the survivors? I don't think more than 0.00000005% of the population has the knowledge to turn raw earth into white powder, let alone primers. I'm guessing we would, at best, go back to half-assed flintlocks for the next centuries.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn’t matter how many people currently know how to do it because there’s a thing called fucking books that allows anybody to learn how to.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't think more than 0.00000005% of the population has the knowledge to turn raw earth into white powder
      Nope, but that is the strength of language. You don’t need to know everything. Even if everyone gets nooooked, information will survive.

      Fpbp

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ah yes the "how to turn dirt from the ground into primers in 5 steps using only cooking tools" book
      I guess they have it right next to the one that teaches how to go from garden dirt to 4nm microchips.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you been to a fucking library before? I have zero doubt the book you are ironically describing exists. If not, then grab like 3 chemistry textbooks and fucking read bro. It's the apocalypse, you have nothing better to do.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, Not only this, but all it takes is one person with the knowledge and the will to teach others. And it doesn't even need to be one person, just several people, each with missing pieces of the puzzle.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nukes flying will not dramatically change anything unless you live in a major metro area. You're getting sent to Europe to fight Russians in World War III, that's about it.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good flintlocks and bayonet charges had sovl

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It would be fine. Africa has very little prime targets, large cities, good enough industry, and resources out the ass. Without the first world to buy up their resources they will have to develop them themselves. Nuclear Armageddon would unironicly give rise to the African century.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't think more than 0.00000005% of the population has the knowledge to turn raw earth into white powder, let alone primers
    So what? Trade is a thing, and if society and trade isn't being reestablished (not only to distribute powder/primers, but also to get the chemicals necessary to make them to the people who can make them in the first place), then most areas would probably be stuck going back to pre-firearm ranged weapons once available powder/primers run out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but also to get the chemicals necessary to make them to the people who can make them in the first place
      Big point that most people don't think of. I know the composition of primers, but I have no idea how to get the components without buying or salvaging them. Likewise with sulfur for black powder, and without that you aren't going to get reliable ignition in a flintlock as sulfur is used to lower the ignition temperature.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most anons are 12 years olds that think that IRL is like Minecraft and sulfure comes from visible veins on rocks. Then all you do is mix it in a bucket.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sure people will manage. Stone age humans were trading flint and moving them vast distances. The bronze age wouldn't had been possible without people doing the same with ores. It doesn't have to be a deliberate effort, the invisible hand will take care of it. Not to mention a post-nuclear world would have vastly diminshed populations. To take your example, a single sulfur heap (produced as a waste product from oil refining) would likely supply all the sulfur anyone would need for entire generations. Hell, just the sulfur heaps alone we have now are vastly in excess of what the world needs right now. Come to think about it, it's actually you who doesn't know what he's talking about, "mining" sulfur in a post nuke world would be even easier to get in real life than in minecraft.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Read the post I was replying to before replying you fucking tard. If trade is reestablished at larger scales, then needing to craft shit yourself that there's popular demand for isn't a concern. If trade is still so fucked that you can't get stuff that there's popular demand for, then you aren't going to be getting the raw materials to make it yourself either.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Trade will happen. Stone age humans managed it. It is not hard. No need to be so butthurt at being proven wrong at such a simple thing.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The AK will definitely remain.
    Given Middle Eastern fighting techniques.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd go directly to Lake City and barricade myself in there. Probably have a few hundred rounds for each living human in a 300 mile radius.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A thousand years after full scale nuclear war there will still be millions of serviceable AKs and hermetically sealed tins of 7.62x39

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    By the time you had used all the primers in America, people would have re-learned how to make them, and taught others, and written it down.

    But yes, you might have some isolated communities that have to resort to muskets and crossbows or air-guns or something.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seeing as most guns probably would get a relatively low round count (even military weapons that are sent out to theater can be quite old, like 80s old), and they aren't biodegradable, I'd expect a lot of them would last quite a long time. Look at police surp firearms for inspiration, since they similarly are used only periodically and exist more for personal security assurance and intimidation than hard use. People who go around raiding and looting are probably some of the first ones to get killed for the exact reason that it only really takes 1 .22LR to go to the right spot to kill you fast OR slow, and there's quite a bit of ammo floating around such that if anyone really WANTED it, they could GET it. Maybe it'd be a dollar a bullet for Bubba's lead round nose FMJ 9mm, but it'd probably exist. People in Afghanistan and Africa and Mexico manage to keep guns going a very long time with period maintenance, precisely because the roundcounts remain relatively low in low-intensity warfare, punctuated by brief bursts then long periods of silence and warning shots.

    Your AR receiver probably has a round count life of tens of thousands, even if the barrel is clapped out by 10k. But that's fine, because if you are getting into firefights on the regular you'll probably die before that's a problem. In a world without antibiotics and medicine, you're just 1 away from it being the potential end. All of this being said, the US didn't resort to roving gangs of murders during the Dust Bowl/Great Depression Wombo Combo, so if we could manage to get through a famine and poverty we'll probably eek out an existence of some kind however miserable.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modern industrial civilization would be fully recovered within a single century.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't think more than 0.00000005% of the population has the knowledge to turn raw earth into white powde

    funnily enough there as been a 3d printable shotgun that uses electricity to start the powder pump action

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modern weapons would be around for a little while yet, but you should start hitting up your HEMA club and git gud anyway. It's fun and a good sword will get you places. Not good places, but still.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nuclear armageddon is a meme by hippid commie science fags
    The very same fags that tell you global warming is the end of the world and injecting yourself with a dna altering substance will absolutely not give you cardiac arrest and cancer
    Civilization has and will survive nuclear war and chances are 50-80% of russian nukes aint even working and then ask yourself how many of that will reach mainland USA. Considering china (lol) i would expect something similar from their wish.com technology/quality level plus they only have like 200 300 warheads or so.
    If you are against nuclear war and especially as an american you have fallen for marxist subversion. The usa will absolutely dominate in a global nuclear war with little to no damage on its mainland.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bro please.

    Grab a still you want to trash, you're gonna be here a while son.
    Step 1: gather sulfuric acid from car battery, boil until thick white smoke appears, which means that the water has taken a vacation
    Step 2: gather KNO3 from store(saltpetre) or make it via urine+dung pile over 6 months
    Step 3: mix the pasty material in a still
    Step 4: heat(HOT, like 600 freedoms hot)
    Step 5: obtain nitric acid
    Step 6: carefully place now extremely dangerous acid aside
    Step 7: clear still, add 1 part sulfuric and 2 parts ethanol, gently(GENTLY) heat til 290 freedom units, the still is now producing ether.
    Step 8: put out that cigarette.
    Step 9: take finely shredded good quality paper(95% cellulose), unbleached if you are fancy enough to have it, and add nitric acid slowly to it. This will nitrate the cellulose, and should be ideally done over a metal coffee filter so the acid drains away, but any other metal sieve works. Wait six days for the nitric to evaporate since you probably don't have any amines if you're following this so far
    Step 10: add 8.5 parts nitrocellulose to 1.5 part ether. store sealed. Congrats, you got bootleg gunpowder, good enough for crude pipe pistols or reloading shotguns, will probably make a bomb out of most rifles until you can standardize cut sizes of the cellulose somewhat

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