So what will become of the gazillion M16s now that they will longer in use?

So what will become of the gazillion M16s now that they will longer in use?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This but unironically, ukes are going to abandon 5.45x39 anyways (they had their own AR variant prior to the war already) and americans will be happy to dump their surplus on them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is most likely. Once they are completely phased out, they will ship them by the tens of thousands to every strategic ally starting with the Ukies.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It would be pretty awesome if they converted them to civilian-legal semi-autos and sold them for cheap honestly, but they won't.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It won't happen, but CMP round 2 with demilled M16s and M9s would be amazing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        CMP should at the very least sell parts kits of old guns, any semi autos and single action guns that are within use of the US military. Too bad republicans only pretend to care about guns and the CMP is ran by selfish geriatrics

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        CMP has stated they will never offer assault weapons parts again.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Given their position I get it, but what a bunch of fags. It's the standard arm these days. What good does it do training people to use M1's when they'd be using an AR platform if they were ever drafted?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >flood the already long flooded AR market with beat to shit guns
      Why? It makes more sense to warehouse them to give away as military aid.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        B-but muh second amendment says the government needs to take part in massively unprofitable gun socialism.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          so instead the gubberment sends them away to another country as a form of "gun socialism"... what are you on about?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Using them as military aid would be more beneficial than the government buying new semi auto lowers and possibly barrels, then paying a guy to swap out the parts, just to sell what would still be a used gun with tens of thousands of rounds through it on a market that's already flooded before considering the amount of surplus they'd be dumping onto it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >10s of thousands of rounds
              Maybe nam era guns that were in country. An average 30yo m16 probably averaged 200-300rds a year at most. Militaries don't shoot much.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >dumping a bunch of free rifles on yet another corrupt shithole we shouldn't be involved with is more beneficial than selling the rifles on the civilian market and making a bit of profit doing so

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >market and making a bit of profit
                They'd probably make more selling them for scrap.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >my gun socialism is good
              I wonder if hypocrites ever come to, and if they do, how do they feel about it?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Like all men post nut clarity takes the fun out of what you were doing.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There is not a single country around the world I give a shit enough about to lend tax dollars towards subsidizing.
              They can all rot and burn and die of starvation and plague before I'll be happy sending them money.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Too bad bucko

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Shouldn’t you be shilling for Ukraine?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Has anybody ever made that argument, ever, other than you? That's like people talking about the myth of "knockdown power", the only people who ever mention it, ever, are the people against it. I'm convinced these things get made up just to put the person advocating against it in a position of superiority, at least in their eyes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          We bought them asshole. We should be able to pay a fee to get them back

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >unprofitable
          the government shouldn't ever try to make a profit off it's people, the government should exist to serve the people. For example, by giving them free guns.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >beat to shit
        most are probably untouched

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >flooded AR market with beat to shit guns
        Yes. I want my $200 dollar cold war surplus.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >flood the already long flooded AR market
        YES!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I would kill for a $300 carryhandle m16 I don't know what you're on

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Why?
        To crash the market.....WITH NO SURVIVORS!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they legally cant because the atf is retarded

      all of them are "machine guns". The ATF considers the barrels "machine gun barrels". almost none of the parts can be reused for civilian purposes, they all must be destroyed. Except maybe small stuff like furniture.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why is that? I bought a M16a1 kit without a barrel or receiver, and that’s only two other parts you need to buy

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The ATF randomly decided to decree that like 8(?) years ago because they were asshurt about how many easy to build parts kits were available on the market. You used to be able to buy parts kits with everything except the receiver intact prior to that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >8(?) years ago
            My man, that shit happened like 17 years ago. It's not 2014 anon, it's almost fucking 2023.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              N-no. That's can't be.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Probably continue to sit in warehouses and occasionally get sent to allies or prospective allies until they're all gone. I'd love it if they would make them semi-auto and sell them on the civ market but at this point the correct portion of the GOP would have to win basically everything for us to even have a shot. Even if the NFA is killed and MGs are 100% legal I doubt they'd hit the civ market, lot of people in government that would rather see them reduced to ingots than in civilian hands no matter how much we're willing to pay for them.

        I'm sure the government can tell the government to get fucked on this one special occasion. Problem is we know they won't.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Barrels from MGs are only banned from import you fucking retard moron

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ATF still tries to push random rulings onto others all the time. They recently convicted some poor guy that was selling older saw cut guns and charged him as an illegal machine gun dealer. They even claimed he had a destructive device since he had an m79 frame and a barrel in a separate place

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The military/fed is the ATF’s boss. They’ll do what they’re told. The real reason is neither side wants this.
            >Dems don’t want more guns
            >Republicans wouldn’t like the fed hurting the private gun companies by flooding the market with cheap guns.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Based atf. Why hasn't the NRA done anything about them yet?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My A4 parts kit from a few years ago disagrees.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      dude you can just BUY a colt AR-15

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but M16s were actually used by the military. Like, those shits were in Iraq and Afghanistan and shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can't convert them due to the once a machine gun, always a machine gun rule. Lower Receiver would have to be chopped up. Also ATF claims the barrel is part of the machine gun, at least for imports and may try to push that ruling even on these to have them chopped up as well.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Also ATF claims the barrel is part of the machine gun, at least for imports and may try to push that ruling even on these to have them chopped up as well.
        How does this law work? My IMBEL FAL parts kit came with the original barrel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Pre ban parts kit barrel. How do you even tell what is a pre ban barrel and what isn't (what came in before the ban)? You don't!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >converted them to civilian-legal semi-
      Can't do that since the once a machine gun rule. The lowers have to be torched according to atf. They also ban barrels on imports and claim they are part of the machine gun and they will probably try to apply that here as well.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Where does it say “once a machine gun always a machine gun” in the law. AFT opinion isn’t law. Laws are passed by congress and signed by a president.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's what I hope. They did it for old m16s that you can buy here in europe. Yet I never saw a real m4a1 here.

      they legally cant because the atf is retarded

      all of them are "machine guns". The ATF considers the barrels "machine gun barrels". almost none of the parts can be reused for civilian purposes, they all must be destroyed. Except maybe small stuff like furniture.

      Someone could do that if they aim to sell them here in the EU.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Or if they just torch cut the lower receivers and threw away the full auto bits from the FCG and sold them like that. That 922r rule wouldn't apply to these since every part was built in America, right?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They would be entirely legal to sell in the US. Honestly the only reason the CMP isn't giving these out with a semi auto only lower is because the government is run by assholes

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          GIVE ME A M110 SASS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Technically there's nothing illegal with owning the full auto trigger parts and even the sear. as they can't be installed in a semi auto lower. However, ATF has in the past tried to use it as constrictive possession when someone has a semi auto lower as well in possession as an easy charge to throw on.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Constructive intent doesn't real

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Easy. Just cut the receiver in half and take out the trigger. Then sell the entire assembly on the US market.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They'll be destroyed.
    🙁

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CIA will give them out the third worlers they use. We will live to see an M16 on some African flag one day and if we are lucky there will be war between AK and m16 flags

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This
      ISIS already received a lot of them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ISIS overrunning the Iraqi army and taking all of their weapons =/= ISIS receiving weapons fro america

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Okay but the US State Department and CIA morons handing out weapons to literally any "moderate rebel group" in Syria with a vague promise to fight Assad sure is. So many of those cells were linked to (and eventually absorbed by) ISIS.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            When glowies decide they can't have chinese investments in africa you gonna see lots of nignogs with m16

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Ain't that the truth. Idk much African history, but it sure was neat how quickly the continent got flooded with AKs and RPGs as soon as the old European empires got out.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Used in training and/or handed down to national guard units, non-infantry units that don't need the latest and greatest infantry small arms, etc etc. Basically they'll be used until they fall apart and scrapped as they wear out.

    And no, you're never going to see them sold off en masse to civilians. They might get handed out as lethal aid to a 3rd party in some future conflict, though, but not anytime soon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Handed down to national guard and reserves
      The majority of National Guard and Army Reserve rock M4a1s exclusively at this point. Very few have M16s let alone M16a2 rifles. Even medical support units that mostly mob and demob, a unit that will likely never fire their rifles in anger, have M4a1s now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >They might get handed out as lethal aid to a 3rd party in some future conflict, though, but not anytime soon.

      A positive consequence of this would be to "encourage" a nation to adopt NATO weapons as standard and let go of whatever they are using. This most likely would mean a nation drops their Soviet weaponry and adopts NATO weaponry to replace it. Ukraine is using up all of its Soviet leftovers and is going to be a NATO nation from here on out, if you want a relevant example.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think the biggest message is this thread is the ATF needs to go and stay go.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >We sell by the kilo

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're going to be raided by Texas-Oklahoma-Coalition forces from national guard bases when the inevitable civil war goes hot.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Ukraine-Russian war has been an extremely important reminder in the value of stockpiling things "just in case", so my guess is that we'll just keep them by the hundred thousand or so just in case a prospective ally needs M16s yesterday. You never know when you're going to make a new friend, and you never know when that friend may be in an active war with the russians or chinese or iranians.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    metal recycling

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Taiwan

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they'll hand them over to the cartels

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The CIA is going to sell them cheaply to arms dealers with a white list of who they can resell them to, then wonder why they still wind up killing Americans after a decade of changing hands after the initial resale.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    SCOTUS will repeal the NFA and force the ATF to go around selling them to us for the tax stamp around that time.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >African Warlords start using m16's en masse

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So what will become of the gazillion M16s

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Probably get stored next to the gazzilion m14s and garands and probably some crates of Springfield trapdoor rifles….

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Lost" during transport and ending up in the hands of CIA backed third worlders

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