So what was medieval combat really like? What was modern warfare like at the time?

So what was medieval combat really like? What was modern warfare like at the time?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lots of walking around and making/breaking camp
    combat was a lot of poking then someone runs away.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing like your japslop.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone who hates Berserk is
      A) a gay
      B) never read it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I read it and it gets exponentially worse after the troll arc with the jrpg power ups and comic relief characters

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But the jrpg shenanigans berserk is best berserk. I just wish guts would dump caska already and hook up with schierke...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Farnese better

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Farnese can have caska. Serpico can watch while they scissor.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Good, leave the witch for me

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Guts really would be better off with top tier witch dicky. It's not even up for debate.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              But the jrpg shenanigans berserk is best berserk. I just wish guts would dump caska already and hook up with schierke...

              Farnese better

              Farnese can have caska. Serpico can watch while they scissor.

              Disgusting.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Forgot to mention, my favorite part in Berserk is when Guts gets blacked or when he gets cucked. It's hard to pick

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Like I said.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Gets raped by some homie when he was young
            >Girlfriend gets raped, cums and is impregnated in front of him after all of his buddies die
            >Gives birth to a daemon that is totally cool bro because he like helps him and stuff for a little while!!
            >"Girlfriend" gets raped again at the end
            Truly a work of art.
            Us lowly plebs could never hope to conceive such a masterful piece of story telling and art. Only superior nipponese minds would be capable of such creation, after all, they are the master race of this world.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        fricking hell berserk fans are such midwits
        it's the only halfway decent fantasy manga that exists so they worship it like it's the greatest fricking thing ever made. The most mediocre of western fantasy blows berserk out of the water. It's a perfect showcase of how much manga & anime sucks as a whole.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Agreed. Ask them what they like and they love to jerk off about how great they think the stories are in their favorite manga, and all I can think is "If stories are what you like, just wait until you find out about literature." but no, they're not really into stories. They just can't engage with media if it doesn't have bug-eyed cartoons attached to it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The first two Black Company books are about as good is it can get unless you are going back to the pulp era. Black Company shits the bed with the third book. and just gets worse. I'm sure the later books could have been good if they were stand alone stories developed with nothing to do with the Company but Cooke's a hack so yeah.

          Berserk is liked because Miura became obscenely good as a sketch artist.

          >Gets raped by some homie when he was young
          >Girlfriend gets raped, cums and is impregnated in front of him after all of his buddies die
          >Gives birth to a daemon that is totally cool bro because he like helps him and stuff for a little while!!
          >"Girlfriend" gets raped again at the end
          Truly a work of art.
          Us lowly plebs could never hope to conceive such a masterful piece of story telling and art. Only superior nipponese minds would be capable of such creation, after all, they are the master race of this world.

          I think the implication is that was his miscarried kid that Casca crapped out, I mean the kid looks like him later. The fact that Guts is too dense to figure it out instantly is because he's a bit of a dumbass. Skellator outright tells him its his kid and he's still to dense to put 1+0 together.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And since Griffith incorporated the kid, he's also partly Guts and Caska's child. The twist about the moonkid being Griffith was foreshadowed a long time ago.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The most mediocre of western fantasy blows berserk out of the water.

          Agreed. Sojourn was incomplete, but it held water.

          Soleil just finished all 18 volumes of The Master Inquisitors. It's pretty awesome.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Walk
    >Walk
    >Your buddy dies Dysentery
    >Walk
    >Battle happens, lasts literally 3 hours
    >You won? Congrats! You can walk home.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think if your buddy dies of dysentery while you're walking with him your next action is going to be to slip and fall, not to keep walking.

      most full on head to toe battles with armies meeting up at one spot to duke it out were resoundingly boring, especially as armor and mercenaries became more common
      for example, in the late 14th century italian states were at war with eachother except none of them had the actual ability to raise their own army (they clearly didnt have much foresight)
      so they often recruited the best armed mercenaries money could buy and when the two mercenary forces met eachother, they simply didnt fight with all they had because they had no reason to put their lives at risk for a foreign country, and they knew the other mercenaries were there to do exactly what they were doing, profit off of war
      i wont go as far to say they didnt fight seriously all the time otherwise they'd lose their jobs but there is explicitly cases where mercenaries had so much leverage over the desperate italians that they only pretended to fight other mercenaries (to make things worse most mercenaries came from the same regions so it makes sense that they would choose their countrymen over some foreign war)
      there was also a shit ton of betrayal and massacring by mercenaries of the country that hired them
      theres one document recording a mercenary group accepting pay from a city they were sieging to go and siege the one that hired them in the first place, it really was that bad

      Maxim 49

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Maxim 49
        could you tldr that section? i dont really have time to read it right now

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        49. Every client is one missed payment away from becoming a target and every target is one bribe away from becoming a client.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >>Walk
      >>Walk
      >>You won? Congrats! You can walk home.
      The past fricking sucks

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The vast majority of conflict consisted of raids and trying to chase down raiders to ambush them- so lots of marching, then attacking (hopefully for you) mostly defenseless enemies. Between states and organized forces, most of it consisted of sieges against fortified positions, so just sitting and waiting for the other guys to get hungry, sick and die first, and raiding supplies- more attacking defenseless or almost defenseless enemies. Every so often there would be real battles in the field, but they were uncommon. Mostly, war would just be walking, killing terrified screaming people, looking for food, and sitting around waiting

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Move around scouting where the other army is, this takes forever. Make some makeshift camps, eat a good breakfast and march out to meet each other. If you lose run like hell back to camp, if its fortified hide in there, if its really bad grab what you can and make a run for it. If you win loot their shit and raise a trophy. If its winter we wait for spring.

      If you surrender you’re like Uber fricked right? It seems like 99% of your survival came from winning the battle

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        best case you'd be a slave for the rest of your life

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Completely depends on when and where we’re talking.
        In any battle, the worst outcome is fleeing- something like 80% of the deaths would occur after one side broke. For surrendering and being captured, it varied. If you were surrendering to an enemy of a different faith- Christians to Muslims especially, you were likely going to sold into slavery, and the Muslims would usually castrate their prisoners as well. After that, you would likely end up working as a slave belowdecks on a galley. If you were a Christian surrendering to other Christians, you would probably be held and pressed into the service of the other army. In most civil wars, you would probably still be a soldier, now just fighting for the other side, in wars between states you would likely just be working in the camp. Ransom was possible for anyone with a bit of wealth. But assuming your survived the war, you would probably be able to return home afterwards

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Actually, no. Ransoms were common when it came to professional troops and especially nobility. Most of the time, if you could pay the ransom or negotiate one, you were pretty well treated. If you couldn’t pay up or negotiate one, things depended. Often times you’d do hard labor of some kind, or be sold into slavery. Flat out executing prisoners was done more during sieges where prisoners functioned as hostages and bargaining tools.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Damn mount and blade got it right

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only if you’re a peasant. Knights got to be ransomed and generally were well cared for in the hands of the enemy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you're a peasant, you'll run away in the rout and probably survive. If you get captured, you'll be killed or, if you're "lucky," enslaved.
        If you're nobility or otherwise notable, you'll be ransomed. If nobody wants to pay for you, you might get executed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well it depends who you surrender to
        >surrender to Europeans
        Your probably fricked, but there’s a slight chance that your not. Emphasis on slight, God willing your the same religion as the guys that have captured you
        >surrender to Arabs
        Extremely fricked, possibly literally fricked. There are zero good outcomes, and most outcomes involves your wiener and balls being relived from you
        >surrender to Asians
        Archeologists will find your bones to show signs of boiling and mutilation, and probably cannibalism
        >surrender to Native Americans/Aztecs
        You are now staring in a 1970’s Italian exploitation shock film, enjoy.
        >surrendering to Africans
        I’m not that well versed in Medieval Sub Saharan African treatment of POW’s, probably not great but you might end up being the slave of a big booty Nubian queen, might.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sieges are a bit more complicated than that. Generally both sides will be harassing each other, looking for ways to attack the other side where they are, if not totally defenseless, at a severe disadvantage. It could get quite boring though, and there are many instances of nobles calling out other nobles for a fair fight during these interminable skirmish phases. If you read the chivalric biography of Bayard it should give you a good idea.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Move around scouting where the other army is, this takes forever. Make some makeshift camps, eat a good breakfast and march out to meet each other. If you lose run like hell back to camp, if its fortified hide in there, if its really bad grab what you can and make a run for it. If you win loot their shit and raise a trophy. If its winter we wait for spring.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hacking people to death and being hacked to death. Most movies and books portray fighting as a kind of ballet, one swipe across the neck or back and the body goes down. No such luck in reality. You continue beating the man in front of you with your weapon until he stops moving or something else distracts you.
    Lots of yelling too, post battle battlefields would sound like a chorus from Hell.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Medieval is a rather broad term, you have to be more specific. Combat 800 AD is not really comparable to combat 1400 AD.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mostly skirmishes and sieges. Large scale open warfare was exceedingly rare. Even rarer we’re actual assaults on fortifications. So basically a lot of sitting around and maybe a small fight if two opposing scouting groups run into each other

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guts got raped like a b***h

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      still not as much of a gay as you are

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Griffith sold his bootyhole for 3 gold pieces.
      What are you? A VaushBerserkHorse?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Greatest love story ever told

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    slogging in mud
    having to equip yourself with everything
    having to forage for your own food
    getting sick
    being cold
    getting smashed in the head with a rock or having arrows poke your eyes out
    then you die

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Getting crushed by human walls while everyone around you was shitting themselves after dying, with an occasional peppering of arrows to the face.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Your teeth have been growing into your brain, your wiener has been hellburning for 11 years, you've shit out your literal ass in prolapse and have to stuff it back in every time for weeks now, you have 6 fingers left, and you're very happy to go to war in this painhell frickworld that doesn't even have asprin.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Your teeth have been growing into your brain
      Did people turn into anthropomorphic boars or something back then?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it was Baulder's Gate 3 shit everywhere

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Read a book or something OP this info is freely available both online and offline

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It had superior supplies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      reminds me of when i brought a full 2 pounds of pork tenderloin to a campout, stuck it on a stick over the fire and unevenly burnt the outside while the inside was still juicy and just ate it all with my hands like a caveman because i didnt bring silverware and i dropped my only knife in the fire

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Actual medieval rations: grain

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much the same it is today. Hell of a lot of nothing for ages, then suddenly a hell of everything, all at once, and then the void again.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >weeb quality

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's a moron that doesn't know what leggings are

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          leggings dont make your skin white

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit you are moronic

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Casca's leather breeches (the garment that covers her legs under her tall boots) are often colored opposite to her boots. I.e. when her boots are dark, the breeches are light, and if she's drawn with light colored boots, her breeches are dark. This isn't that weird, I'm sure she has several pairs of each, people in Berserk change clothes regularly.

            I think you're confusing a garment with skin. That band of light colored material above the rim of her boots is not her skin. You can actually see some stitching or laces on the side.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Lacing
              Those are just brands of sacrifice in a line

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Here is a picture where she's wearing light boots and dark breeches to make it clearer what you're looking at

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    most full on head to toe battles with armies meeting up at one spot to duke it out were resoundingly boring, especially as armor and mercenaries became more common
    for example, in the late 14th century italian states were at war with eachother except none of them had the actual ability to raise their own army (they clearly didnt have much foresight)
    so they often recruited the best armed mercenaries money could buy and when the two mercenary forces met eachother, they simply didnt fight with all they had because they had no reason to put their lives at risk for a foreign country, and they knew the other mercenaries were there to do exactly what they were doing, profit off of war
    i wont go as far to say they didnt fight seriously all the time otherwise they'd lose their jobs but there is explicitly cases where mercenaries had so much leverage over the desperate italians that they only pretended to fight other mercenaries (to make things worse most mercenaries came from the same regions so it makes sense that they would choose their countrymen over some foreign war)
    there was also a shit ton of betrayal and massacring by mercenaries of the country that hired them
    theres one document recording a mercenary group accepting pay from a city they were sieging to go and siege the one that hired them in the first place, it really was that bad

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ironically, if you were a conscripted peasant your chances of survival were pretty high. Contrary to movies and fantasy novels, peasants were used as meat shields, they were used as labor in and around camp and they were only tasked with guarding less important things. Sure, they had subpar weapons, but since they weren't expected to do front line fighting they didn't really needed more.
    If you won, you could get some loot that probably worth more than your shitty farm and walk home as a rich man, at least rich by peasants standards. If you lost, then it wasn't really a big deal for you, you didn't have expensive weapons and armor to begin with so when the enemy ransacked your camp and took your possessions you didn't lose much beside your crappy spear that your lord gave you to guard his livestock. Your enemy had no reason to kill mere peasants, because your main occupation wasn't warfare so you posed no threat to them. Or you could have just simply ran off the first chance your lord wasn't looking, because nobody cares about filthy peasants anyway and nobody would have noticed if one went missing. Your biggest problem would be bandits on the your way home, who were looking for stray soldiers to rob, so it wouldn't have been wise to follow main roads in case you run into them. Wildlife was also a huge problem, because if you got lost in wolf country then you were dead meat, those frickers killed a ton of people back then, before they were exterminated.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >peasants weren't used as meat shields*

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      was this from a fantasy novel you read or a video game?

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