So what really happened?

So what really happened?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Godzilla

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    R*ssians.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Terrible readiness state + low quality crew with lots of conscripts+ TBs acting as decoys + 2 Neptune missiles

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >TBs acting as decoys + 2 Neptune missiles
      If you think they told you the real tactic they used, you're nuts

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am convinced that MALDs were involved.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        are you an automatic contrarian to any official narrative?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Certainly not; but I don't see any sense at all in declaring loudly exactly how you did it, in the middle of a fricking war, when there are half a dozen other ships the Ukes could have sunk if they'd kept their traps shut

          so what that tells me in fact, is that the story put out is what the Ukes hope the Russians will believe

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Doubtful since only the landing ships killed at snek island have ventured close to Ukraine. The rest of the fleet has been staying away since Moskva was supposed to be the air defence for the entire fleet

            Also feel like the TB2s were just used to test if Russian AAW was working

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              What the frick is wrong with zoomers these days, is the concept of KEEPING THINGS SECRET so terribly foreign that one must push 101 arguments why one shouldn't reveal tactical information in the face of HURR DURR JUST PUBLISH EVERYTHING ONLINE?!?!

              >The rest of the fleet has been staying away
              because of all kinds of shore-based threats. The Uke coast is chockful of mines and shore battery missiles of all shapes and sizes by now. But if they had been stupid enough to come in and try something, it would have been the supreme height of fricking STUPIDITY if they'd come adequately prepared with countermeasures for the Neptune-TB2 combo, simply because some starved-for-attention social media tweaker had happily posted the real ship-killing tactic for all the world to see mere minutes after hitting the fricking thing.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >since Moskva was supposed to be the air defence for the entire fleet
              No you are just repeating shit spread here that has no basis in fact

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon the flagship of the fleet was sunk, if you think armchair historians saying "This is how we think they did it" even Ukraine saying "Yeah we did it" had any impact on them suddenly becoming much more cautious you're moronic because that implies you think shoigu/gerasimov believe the fricking smoking accident cover stories.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >armchair historians saying "This is how we think they did it"
              There's no mainstream alternative theory
              >Ukraine saying "Yeah we did it"
              That they did it is not the question; HOW they did, is
              >that implies you think shoigu/gerasimov believe the fricking smoking accident cover stories
              Use your brain anon, there can be all sorts of delivery and targeting methods or even ordnance types for all you know (are you SURE it was Neptune? why, because Ukraine said so?), you'd have to be an idiot of a Russian admiral not to consider the alternatives, and thus you'd have to be an idiot of a Ukrainian admiral to reveal your hole card and dispel the uncertainty just like that

              Dear god, zoomies are moronic

              >since Moskva was supposed to be the air defence for the entire fleet
              No you are just repeating shit spread here that has no basis in fact

              Moskva had the longest ranged SAM capability in the Black Sea, that's a fact

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Moskva had the longest ranged SAM capability in the Black Sea, that's a fact
                >since Moskva was supposed to be the air defence for the entire fleet
                These are different claims.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                So what is the primary long range air defence of the Black Sea Fleet now, smart arse?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                What does that matter?
                >since Moskva was supposed to be the air defence for the entire fleet

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >has no answer

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You said something patently false and when you got called on it tried to shift the goalposts and then deflect into something not pertinent. Why the frick would you expect me to indulge that? Are you brain damaged?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >patently
                Nice try, but no
                You don't get to pre-declare your opinion as the "truth"
                If you have an objection to the statement, you have to back it up just like everyone else

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >since Moskva was supposed to be the air defence for the entire fleet
                Are you denying that the Black Sea Fleet has other AA capabilities?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                China reportedly pretty much said they feel outright scammed by the Russian CIWS system they paid good money for, it can't even aim at the incoming projectiles

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't be disingenuous. "AA capability" is not a 1/0 operation. A deck-mounted machine-gun is also "AA capability".
                Are you denying that the Moskva had the longest-ranged AA capability of all the ships in the Black Sea Fleet?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >has no answer
                :^)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've already stated, TWICE
                >Moskva had the longest-ranged AA capability
                while pressing you for an answer you're still too cowardly to give.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the radars weren't working

    WH PUT IT OUT TO SEA THEN

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because this is Russia.
      It wasn't only the radars that weren't working either. The moskva would have lost against a british fishing fleet in the state it was in.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The moskva would have lost against a british fishing fleet in the state it was in.
        Vengeance for the dogger bank incident 118 years later!

        • 10 months ago
          Iron Cross 1st Class

          The Russian Pacific Squadron's movement during the 1905 thing with Japan?
          The Brit fishergays were in the wrong there.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was only some of the radars sometimes, IIRC. They were using it for area denial air defense against Ukrainian fighters, and also to launch missile attacks against Ukrainian cities.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They were using it for area denial air defense against Ukrainian fighters
        Well it's kinda fricking important your radars actually work for that role
        >and also to launch missile attacks against Ukrainian cities.
        I have seen zero evidence Moskva ever fired her Sandbox cans but I'm open to being proven wrong

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      well, one of them WAS working.... but if they turned it on it bricked their communications because of how badly they built it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Think it was something along the lines of:
      >It'd never be fired upon, Ukraine doesn't even have a navy anymore, what's the worst that could happen?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the radars weren't working
      the radar on other side of the ship worked

      unfortunately the captain wasn't doing his job of having the working radar pointing to where attack would come from

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like the kewt little fishing boat on the side

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Moskva made it safely back to port under it's own power. After returning, it volunteered for Special Operations, and has been performing critical missions behind Ukrainian lines. It has personally destroyed 47 HIMARS, 22 Patriots, over 200 Leopards and Bradleys, 4 Zelenskys, and captured 2 Boris Johnsons.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Igor pls

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It sank?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The front fell off

    • 10 months ago
      Iron Cross 1st Class

      LIVE PUTIN REACTION

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The front fell off

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the front fell off?

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Promotion to cruiser submarine

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So basically the ship never got upgraded or refurbished EVER. Ironically it was built in mikolaiv in ukraine and in 2018 the russians sent it these to get refitted with modern kit, but they never actually paid the shipyard so it never gor the upgrades.

    Long and short this thing is sailijg around with the same 1985 radars it was launched with. As you can imagine this led to some issues. There are some documenrs circling thats seem to show that the radio was interfereing with some of the radars so for one to be on the other had to be off.

    Add to this an unpaid and untrained crew, probably treated like shit by their officers and with no damadge control capabilities whaysoever. Not a great combo with soviet 'cram as many weapons and ammunition into it as possible' ship design.

    The fact the russians would even think to send such a boat into a war speaks volumes about the kind of people running russia at the moment

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    sea monster

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Poseidon painted it and Ukraine fired missiles at it.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This happened lol, the ship was in a serious state of disrepair.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
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        Anonymous
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          Anonymous
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            Anonymous
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              Anonymous
              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Major takeaways:
                >Missile illuminators failed to consistently track targets.
                >Unspecified issues with fire control radars for Osa air defense missiles.
                >Faulty electro-optical sensors for CIWS.
                >Air search radar incompatible with SATCOM.
                last one always gets me, they legit ran that shit like dial-up, meaning you could only have one at a time

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                at some point the commander of the ship looked at this list, realized he would have literally zero air defense (no S-300, Osa, or AK-630) if he was on the satphone, and sailed into a war zone anyways

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did he really have a choice? He would have been removed from command (at best) if he tried to resist (far more likely is he'd be thrown in a gulag) You really think Putin would let one ship being in a shit state prevent his invasion plan?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sailed in to a war zone, while using said "satphone". Probably using the connection to browse the interwebz.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                to the russians being ready to recieve and obey orders, or GIVE orders, is far more important.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/od9GmFf.jpg

                Major takeaways:
                >Missile illuminators failed to consistently track targets.
                >Unspecified issues with fire control radars for Osa air defense missiles.
                >Faulty electro-optical sensors for CIWS.
                >Air search radar incompatible with SATCOM.
                last one always gets me, they legit ran that shit like dial-up, meaning you could only have one at a time

                Like everything, they under-estimated the Ukrainians whom they still see as poor vassals not fit to be slaves. What are the Ukies gonna do? Fire a missile at them? The flagship of the Black Sea? Come on.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it was sunk right in the period when the Ruskies were still riding high compared to now. It must've been an unbelievable shock back then, Kyiv front collapse and now this, back to back.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if he was on the satphone
                I don't get it. Why didn't he just use a mobile phone like the russian land forces?

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese torpedo boats

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact Russia even bothers trying to keep up the facsimile of its navy just goes to show you how deeply ingrained being cucked by the UK is in Russian culture.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Returned to port under its own power comrade and is currently undergoing refits that will end HATO for good and will be finished in another 2 weeks

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was April 14th

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh no, it happened on April Fool's?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every night in my memes
      I Sneed you, I SEAD you
      That is how I know you glow on
      Far across the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone
      And Red Forest between us
      You have come to show you glow on
      Donbass, Crimea, wherever you are
      I believe that the Z does go on
      Once more, you risk nuclear war
      And you're here in my Z
      And my Z will go on and on
      You can invade Ukraine just one time
      And the national shame will last for a lifetime
      And the sanctions will never let go 'til we're gone
      Special Military Operation was when I bombed you
      One true time I'd Holodomor
      In my life, we'll always go on
      Donbass, Crimea, wherever you are
      I believe that the Z does go on (why does the Z go on?)
      Once more, you bring war to Europe
      And you're here in my Z
      And my Z will go on and on
      Neptunes are here, there's nothing left of Moskva
      And I know that my Z will go on
      Ukraine will forever hate us this way
      You sanctioned in my Z and
      My Z will go on and on.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most sailors were reported to have made it back to their headquarters.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Complacency.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Reminder that they pay these "people" to post this shit.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy frick that's glorious

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ever since the news of russian taken bahkmut. i am now convinced that it was really sunk by an unfortunate accident.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Hey you, yes you, that guy handler.
    You know you don't have to pay these "people"? Use bots like normal shill.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The j*ws did it. With space lasers.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing happened, what are you talking about?

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the ship was the pride of the muscovite side
    >coming out of port to Odessa
    >as the big ships they go, it was rustier than most
    >with a crew and drunk captain unseasoned

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    > moskva
    > what happened?
    I think we're all waiting for Sabaton to deliver the definitive answer.

    ?t=75

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      yea but.. Moskva never even knew she was under attack, its gonna be a short song

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >its gonna be a short song
        The Moskva sank . . . into the seven seas
        [guitar solo]
        end

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          something like this

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just as well they don't do recent conflicts
      I'm not ready for VDV and mobik webms set to a heavy metal version of Yakety Sax

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