Nah even if its shit its still going to be researched heavily. Tailoring your weapons to specifically defeat these systems means China, India, Turkey and the Middle East/Africa is perma fricked.
True but its kind of incredible how fricked the Bricks nations are from this miscalculation. Almost all of their technology has been entirely undermined and they were already in a bad position beforehand.
>lmao okay, it was shit all along
That pretty much happened with every shitty le latest generation MIG defecting pilots delivered like the Cuckbat LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
what was the story with that one? The defecting pilot and reverse engineering revealed the feared speed it could go was impractically limited and the engine eats itself if pushed?
>command and control vehicle specific to Siberian units.
Is there any C&C or EWAR equipment that hasn't been captured during this war? This war has probably undermined the capabilities of any non western military.
This. They may have known that the capabilities of ruskies were shite, but they shouldn't take that for granted and stop innovation or striving to do better.
>horrible at predicting Russian capabilities
With all you have seen, how can you still even entertain the idea that glowBlack folk didn't have accurate information?
They knew it all along and very well. Shit goes like this: >All intel points to Russia being a paper tiger
Classify the intel. >Big board meeting comes up
Say shit's classified, exaggerate and make some shit up >Get the budget everyone ever wanted and then some
Push in the media another fantasy hardware russians came up with and cry how we can't counter it >another board meeting
Rinse and repeat.
when I used to work at Raytheon we would get countless posts on every social media outlet about how 'muh russian supersonic missiles' were superior in every way from bot accounts with english names. I assumed they were russian bots but now it's pretty clear they were likely western agents attempting to get more funding for more projects
Given how much shit they've lost in the last 36hr Russia is beginning to surpass the US as the biggest donor of weapons
Balaklliya seems to have a heap of fairly modern stuff there with basically no one to run it. Lots of good condition it looked like SPG Howitzers and some pretty new-ish 82-A BTR's
I heavily doubt the ukrainians are going to really utilize much of it for too long. The longer this conflict drags out, the more and more ukraine's MIC is going to be built up by NATO handouts.
Until then you've got to rock with the wiener you got. Dunno if the Russians can tell the difference between 155 and 152mm landing on them
Plus you can never have enough stuff like ammo, heavy machineguns, grenades, rpg rounds etc and whatever else is just at-hand on an offensive action
Given the general state of battlefield salvage in general and Russian equipment in particular, a second example is probably a good idea, since they'll have different pieces broken/missing/stolen, and having another will help solidify what the thing is capable of when everything is working.
marginal value of the new one is still pretty low. the one they captured near kiev was still on the way to the front. it was about as minty fresh as one could imagine.
The USA will finally discover how transistors and engine components built on German CNC machinery are deployed in a post soviet tsarist corrupt MIC. I'm sure glowies will be clambering over each other about who gets to write the reports on it.
Bonus they also grabbed a BTR-82A
Not much since most the electronics were likely taken and sold for vodka
Likely nothing but peace of mind.
>lmao okay, it was shit all along
Nah even if its shit its still going to be researched heavily. Tailoring your weapons to specifically defeat these systems means China, India, Turkey and the Middle East/Africa is perma fricked.
Well yeah, that's a given. I'm saying that will be the final result.
True but its kind of incredible how fricked the Bricks nations are from this miscalculation. Almost all of their technology has been entirely undermined and they were already in a bad position beforehand.
>turkey
what
you heard the anon
Yeah, uh, little problem here: Afaik the Russians didn't ever export this. Neither to India nor Turkey nor the Middle east.
And the Chinese have been developing their own systems since before you were born.
>lmao okay, it was shit all along
That pretty much happened with every shitty le latest generation MIG defecting pilots delivered like the Cuckbat LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
Still want to get my hands on a SU57 and 75 though. I want to see what a budget stealth fighter consists of.
>and 75
why would you want to inspect a wooden mockup of a non-existent airplane?
>budget stealth fighter
It would be just a wood plane , which absorbs all the radar signals.
what was the story with that one? The defecting pilot and reverse engineering revealed the feared speed it could go was impractically limited and the engine eats itself if pushed?
Yep. It was also presumed to be primarily aluminum rather than a heavy steel brick.
A hearty belly laugh.
>command and control vehicle specific to Siberian units.
Is there any C&C or EWAR equipment that hasn't been captured during this war? This war has probably undermined the capabilities of any non western military.
Probably audit CIA why they were so horrible at predicting Russian capabilities
Either that or CIA knew it was shit but assumed Russia kept up their assload of equipment.
The CIA did their job.
The audit should be on the three-letter agencies concerned with nation security who have been snoozing since 1999.
Meh they'll just say they prepared for the event in which their intel was bad or ruskie counter intel was feeding false info.
The GOP?
I agree
They were on point right before the war, if that's what you're referring to.
It's better to be overprepared, than underprepared tbhq.
This. They may have known that the capabilities of ruskies were shite, but they shouldn't take that for granted and stop innovation or striving to do better.
basically "what do you do when you're ahead? you get even more ahead"
Fair fights are for suckers and fictional works of entertainment
>they were so horrible at predicting Russian capabilities
and you'd know this, how?
it's all CLASSIFIED, dipshit
>horrible at predicting Russian capabilities
With all you have seen, how can you still even entertain the idea that glowBlack folk didn't have accurate information?
They knew it all along and very well. Shit goes like this:
>All intel points to Russia being a paper tiger
Classify the intel.
>Big board meeting comes up
Say shit's classified, exaggerate and make some shit up
>Get the budget everyone ever wanted and then some
Push in the media another fantasy hardware russians came up with and cry how we can't counter it
>another board meeting
Rinse and repeat.
when I used to work at Raytheon we would get countless posts on every social media outlet about how 'muh russian supersonic missiles' were superior in every way from bot accounts with english names. I assumed they were russian bots but now it's pretty clear they were likely western agents attempting to get more funding for more projects
CIA only says what it necessary for the defense industry to get their funding anon.
Russia is so fricked
Probably a good laugh and not much else.
One of them boomer newspaper comic strip writers surely needs to make one about the Northern front, using the pun of Z and the Zzz sleeping defense.
>the Zzz sleeping defense.
Noice. Now boomerize it
Given how much shit they've lost in the last 36hr Russia is beginning to surpass the US as the biggest donor of weapons
Balaklliya seems to have a heap of fairly modern stuff there with basically no one to run it. Lots of good condition it looked like SPG Howitzers and some pretty new-ish 82-A BTR's
I heavily doubt the ukrainians are going to really utilize much of it for too long. The longer this conflict drags out, the more and more ukraine's MIC is going to be built up by NATO handouts.
Until then you've got to rock with the wiener you got. Dunno if the Russians can tell the difference between 155 and 152mm landing on them
Plus you can never have enough stuff like ammo, heavy machineguns, grenades, rpg rounds etc and whatever else is just at-hand on an offensive action
Technically the US equipment in Afghanistan belonged to the ANA so i would argue that Russia is number 1 already
>Zusko
he's a hohol, that explains everything
AND WE HERE AT DIA.mil ALL LAUGHING
not much, since ukraine also captured one a few weeks into the kiev feint.
Given the general state of battlefield salvage in general and Russian equipment in particular, a second example is probably a good idea, since they'll have different pieces broken/missing/stolen, and having another will help solidify what the thing is capable of when everything is working.
marginal value of the new one is still pretty low. the one they captured near kiev was still on the way to the front. it was about as minty fresh as one could imagine.
didnt they capture one a few weeks into the war?
The USA will finally discover how transistors and engine components built on German CNC machinery are deployed in a post soviet tsarist corrupt MIC. I'm sure glowies will be clambering over each other about who gets to write the reports on it.
USA will cancel f35 and fly cropdusters wrapped in foil
Just learn about how the tech is built.
The vehicle looks like it took shrapnel damage so most of the goodies inside are probably toast.