So, what is the bjj's answer to just getting fucking punched in the face?

So, what is the bjj's answer to just getting fricking punched in the face?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Look at the guy on the bottom
    Does he look like he's in a position to punch?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just punch the gay before it gets to that point lol.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >le MMA meme
          only a complete moron would try to drop down and punch a guy after grounding him. in reality you stomp on his face and kick him in the ribs until they are all broken

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I think it's legal to do that in mma.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This is legal in some MMA orgs. And despite being able to kick a downed person on the head and stomp on their body/head, people STILL got submitted. And this is between TWO trained MMA fighters who both know about submissions. A guy who knows submissions would fold a random Black person (i.e. you) into a pretzel in a few seconds.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >who is in trouble now?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            When fat shut-ins imagine themselves in a fight.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              post your body while wearing your precious BJJ orange belt, homosexual. then I'll let you know exactly how many ways I can shove my dick in your twink ass

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not giving you fap material, fatass.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                lol twink coper confirmed. sorry bro, your BJJ is not going to save you when chad turns into a homosexual and lays his eyes upon you

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >p-please let me see your b-body coper
                lol gay

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Bro, MMA isn't real, you can't do (completely impractical and stupid move), in a street fight that would be my secret weapon

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Why is it impractical or stupid? Are there particularly devastating counters to someone kicking or stomping you on the ground?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >kicking someone while they're down is impractical
              I would say you have brain damage, but considering the fact that you've never been in a fight, it must be mental moronation instead.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He looks like he's having the best time.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      he has a direct shot to that guy's nuts

      that's the problem with martial arts, they're not life or death and maintain some level of dignity and respect

      until you have accepted the fact that you may die, you don't know what fight you really have in you

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        LOL, the age old "nevergiveupuh" from anime. And of course, it came with reddit spacing. I wish I was as sheltered and safe as you nerd, what a nice world you must live in.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >stop defending against shoulder lock to punch balls
        >piss off the other guy
        >arm snap crackle pops
        morons who don’t know how to fight shouldn’t talk about martial arts.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Bullshit. These fantasy scenarios never factor real struggling, which is nothing like "muh grappul". Biting, ball ripping (not just punching), eye gouges, ear ripping, finger breaking, and the rush of pure fear that comes with being in a real fight is something "muh grappul" has no real world answer to.
          Even in MMA there's rules. Simple dirty fighting is what works.
          You morons have never been in a fight before.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit you’re fricking delusional. Go to your local bjj gym and tell them you want to take up the Gracie challenge vale tudo. They still do that.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You can pull Gravie's gravy shooter out of your mouth, anon. The BJ in BJJ isn't innuendo.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I’m not even a bjj guy primarily, I mostly train judo. If you actually believe muh ball punch is going to beat someone who actually knows how to fight you’re moronic. I get knee’d in the groun training and in competition all the time bud it’s not the fight stopper you think it is

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                a love tap in competition isnt a rabbit punch to the balls enrique.

                >These fantasy scenarios never factor real struggling, which is nothing like "muh grappul"
                everyone point and laugh

                >t never been bit in a fight.

                very specific, projecting?

                we heard you crying outside your trailer. from a mile away.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                this sounds like a personal story, do you need someone to talk to?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                lol I've been bitten while training. right on the face, too. didn't help him at all.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                embarassing

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >These fantasy scenarios never factor real struggling, which is nothing like "muh grappul"
            everyone point and laugh

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        if you do bjj unless you spend all your time only doing buttscooting guard youre the one whos going to end up in mount.

        >thats the problem with martial arts, theyre not life or death
        lmfao that is precisely what makes combat sports infinitely better than "muh martial arts for killing". you can practice combat sport techniques consistently and spar hard but you cant practice crushing your sparring partner's balls.
        Old japanese jiujitsu had throws mixed in with joint locks where you break a guys arm while throwing him. Judo removed them because you cant practice them safely. The result? Judokas btfod traditional jiujitsu masters in the standup takedown game and won the interschool matches by giving people concussions. japanese jiujitsu only won in the ground game because ironically enough that was all that they could safely practice hard with.
        so yeah, being "realistic" means nothing if you cant practice it properly in a fully resistant scenario.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly this on both of your responses, it's up to you how you practice your Martial Arts, I started doing BJJ back in the day before all the buttscooting stuff, and I learned it primarily for self defense, so I'm way more interested in getting mount and raining down elbows on the back of someone's head than I am gaining points from guard.

          And also, those Krav Maga morons can't seem to grasp that a kickboxer who has repetition, coordination, speed, strength, timing, etc will be infinitely better at kicking someone's nuts or poking eyes than some nerd who LARPS with pedophile instructors.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            A pro kick boxer won't need to kick nuts or eye gouge to kill a crab maga larper.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He can grab his balls and rip them off.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >grab balls of guy who has you pinned
        >get beaten in the face until you either let go or die.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Place groin on opponents face and win.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Place groin on opponents face and win.
      >bites your dick

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    one day a week for my gym is "real life combatives" which translates in to "what do you do if someone swings a haymaker at you"
    my favorite answer has been a double leg transitioning straight in to a ankle lock

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What do you do if you wrestle the guy on the ground and only then he somehow pulls out a knife and shanks you in the guts

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        guess it would be possible to stab my foot if he has good abdominals and reaction speed, but with a broken ankle he aint chasing me after I get up

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'd pay too see that. You, hamstrung and bleeding as you try to out hop the guy you pissed off, after he already cut you.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What do you do when the guy who is already out-wrestling you pulls out a knife and starts shanking you in the guts?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Hope that he didn't already start stabbing you. Wrestling is the dumbest shit you can possibly do in a fight. His buddy is also about to stab you and tee off on your head while you roll around in the dirt with the guy who is stabbing you.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Ever notice how all warrior cultures have a strong wrestling tradition? Ever notice that whenever the surviving fectbuchs, written by professional men-at-arms, talk about unarmed combat, they specifically mean grappling techniques?

            https://www.thearma.org/essays/G&WinRF.htm#.YtrKOeDIE0N

            You either control the weapon arm or run away. Trying to out-box a guy armed with a kitchen knife is not the great idea you think it is.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Anon is right. Any technique reliant on grappling will get you killed against more than one opponent.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                multiple people are a death sentence no matter what unarmed MA you do lmao. the vids you see of some boxer punching three loser who dont know what to do and just sit there stunned could be applied to a grappler who will flip all three. the difference in that scenario is that the grappler gets a murder charge because but a throw or suplex on the neck will kill on concretr or soil.
                Ill give you that strikers have have better odds because of hit and run and footwork, but what will most likely happen against multiple guys who arent pussies as a striker is that 2 dudes tackle you and then beat your ass.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >What do you do if you wrestle the guy on the ground and only then he somehow pulls out a knif-

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah he's still gonna stab you. BJJ is a sport that will get you stabbed.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah good luck with that, bud. The moment the back of your head gets smashed into the floor you won't have enough strength to even stand up let alone fight back against a guy who's going apeshit on your face, turning your brain into mincemeat with hammer fists.
            If even pro fighters can't withstand that then neither can you.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Anon, You're fantasizing. You're going to get stabbed.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Actually put yourself in that situation. You have a guy sitting on your chest, dropping punch after punch right on your face.
                You think you're just gonna pull out your knife, stab him once and he'll roll over for you and die?
                People who've never wrestled are so deluded, you're absolutely helpless in that situation even with a knife if you don't know how to throw him off.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Heres a more realistic situation for you, because you already are starting from the default assumption that you're already fully mounted on someone when a fight starts, which, you aren't.

                Get one of your friends, and get a seven inch paint mixing stick and put red paint on it. Now go try and tackle him and put him into a submission or a full mount and try not to get any paint on you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Cool. Now try that with any form of striking, Krav magoogly, etc. You are getting just as painted. If they've already got a bowie knife deployed, you either shoot or run, and running might get you stabbed anyway.

                What do you think works better for weapon retention? Grappling or striking? How about ensuring the other guy doesn't draw in the first place? Do you punch his wrist every time he reaches for his weapon, or do you clinch and control that arm from the outset?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Just punch her in the face.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You assume we don't do that in practice already? Yes you'll get some paint on your arms but a marker and knife aren't the same thing.
                If you think you won't get slammed into the floor just because you're holding a knife then you've got another thing coming.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/q2yYABz.gif

                Cool. Now try that with any form of striking, Krav magoogly, etc. You are getting just as painted. If they've already got a bowie knife deployed, you either shoot or run, and running might get you stabbed anyway.

                What do you think works better for weapon retention? Grappling or striking? How about ensuring the other guy doesn't draw in the first place? Do you punch his wrist every time he reaches for his weapon, or do you clinch and control that arm from the outset?

                Yeah u are dead meat. Ngmi

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Don't get me wrong, I carry a gun. A knife won't save you against a physically superior opponent. You're a woman and you think you can beat a man if you have a knife in your useless, untrained hands.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >A knife won't save you against a physically superior opponent

                https://twitter.com/navyyyyyyquotes/status/1547449678760841216?s=20&t=JoC0xzdXTv3a5e9T7gSwTA

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                20IQ stringbean Leb manlet criminal with a small kitchen knife vs hulking steel boned warrior gene Polynesian, who wins

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Your anger is a bigger weakness than your technique. You really are ngmi.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Woman tier response as expected. Do you feel called out, roastie?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wait so now he already has the knife out? Stop changing the scenario.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What gays like you don't understand is that there are no guarantees in fighting at all, with any "system." BJJ mats are a lab environment and what wins is having the most control over your opponent as possible. Still you get surprised, so avoid fights when possible.

            I actually know a blue belt that got in the exact situation you describe, he tackled a guy who had just stolen a bag, the dude pulled a box cutter, my friend just about tore that shoulder out its socket and then he put the guy to sleep.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        these morons have never been in a fight or broke a sweat in their lives. BJJ works great in a classroom, but the first time they get fingers snapped or they try to tap out they die.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao, cope fatass. You don’t fight.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            oh shit, a youtube video!!! holy shit im btfo!!!

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >fat Neet who unironically thinks “I’ll just go crazy on you bro” isn’t a cope talks shit about Bas fricking Rutten
              Pottery

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                sure thing tough guy. you shure showed me. now go punch drywall after jerking off to your mom and sister getting railed in the bedrooom kyle.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                very specific, projecting?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                At least I fight for real instead of in your imagination

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        step back, pull your gun and shoot him, duh

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        what would you do if I mag dumped 25 rounds on your head?
        Okay what if I dropped a nuke on you? huh?
        Well, I have a HYPERSONIC IRON DOME SYSTEM THAT WOULD INTERCEPT IT

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't know how to toss somebody onto their face and while staying on his feet
      >his answer to a "real life scenario" is to make himself vulnerable to getting his head kicked/stomped

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      and then his friends run up and curbstomp you until you go to sleep, only to wake up with a throbbing poopchute

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If multiple people attack you your answer should be to fricking shoot them

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    that looks like my gyms logo but I don't recognize that guy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bro bjj/mma/boxing gyms reuse or steal logos all the time.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    nothing.
    BJJ is about joint locks and wrestling, not attacking to save one's life. It was designed on a basis of Judo, which was not intended to have punches. It was designed to help armored samurai tackle another armored samurai, and do keep him from getting his dagger, but to enable the first to get his own dagger and stab into the joints of the amour. It's just the jap version of medieval knight wrestling.

    If you need a practical, real world martial art that won't end up with you bleeding out on the ground, you need Krav Maga. But before that, you need a to run away, then pull a gun.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Krav Maga

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Krav Maga bad because its popular and popular thing bad

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Hes probably just a poltard schizo that doesnt like it because its israeli

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This. In my limited experience, BBJ is a really racist sphere of guys who either are deep in the closet, are incels, or who are just alt-right morons who're going no where in life. Lots of bullshit artists in BBJ.

            The only people who shit in Krav Maga do so because the originator was israeli. The USMC, FBI, and other groups use it either straight or as a component of their own courses. It's popular because it's simple, and it works.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Beanut butter jelly?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No, no, anon. Big Boobie israelites.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Watch a movie with her, like the titanic... oh wait

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Holy shit this guy has a patchy beard, wears glasses and is slightly overweight. He also has pro trans and pro blm borders on his social media pictures

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Haven't you watched MMA? Especially early MMA where people only trained in one style?

              BJJ's answer to a face-puncher is to evade or block, close distance, and take the opponent down. Even boxing matches usually go to a clinch at some point, before anyone gets knocked out, and without a ref to separate you, it turns into a wrestling match unless both fighters want to get back to punching. Punches are not that effective, knocking someone out is really difficult. If you want to grapple, you can usually grapple.

              This isn't to say you shouldn't punch or you shouldn't train to punch. Punching is useful. But you're much better off neglecting punching and only learning to wrestle, than neglecting wrestling and only learning to punch. I like more emphasis on takedowns and less on ground-wrestling, though. Out in the real world, when you throw your opponent down it's often best to run away or fetch a weapon rather than get down and roll around with them, and just slamming their head into the ground often ends the fight by itself when you're not on a shock-absorbing mat and there are no rules about helping your opponent land safely.

              Krav Maga is fantasy aerobics for soldiers. Basically grown-up mall karate. It focuses on stuff you can't safely do in free practice, so you can always imagine it's going to be super effective. That stuff should be kept supplemental to sustainable boxing and wrestling practice that you can gain experience with.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You actually need to train evasion to get good at it... so yes, punching a pure grappler in the mouth to shut him up works.

                >agree about krav though... it's a moron system for soldiers.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          it seems like one of those martial arts that works real great when the guy is cooperating but no so good if they have a few weeks of boxing class and are resisting

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Krav Maga is bad because it’s womens self defense garbage marketed towards men.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nowadays with how much we're devolving physically, the overlap between female and male strength curves is ever increasing. Nothing wrong with learning a "woman's" technique if it helps you kill another guy

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Except that’s wrong because womens self defense doesn’t work. It’s just girl power confidence without any teeth. If you want to learn to use your body efficiently you do real martial arts. The motto of judo is “minimum effort, maximum effect”

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Most Krav Maga places are mcdojo bullshit. There are a few clogs schools like Ryan Hoovers. The thing to look for is if there is sparring and rolling in their advanced classes. I go to a krav place but it’s only really krav in name now it’s more MMA with weapons occasionally and we prefer side control over mount because it’s easier to disengage.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            All decent martial arts look more alike than not unless you're talking combat sports with specific rulesets, because there's only so many ways to efficiently beat a man's ass into the dirt, and the only way to get good at it is to practice as realistically as possible with resisting opponents.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >krav maga
      No, you want boxing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >other guy slips your jab ONCE and grabs you
        >you literally have no idea what to do now
        traditional boxing is an old and outdated meme.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's actually gaining respect because people have been seeing multiple videos of boxers just knocking out guys left and right. Give a boxer a knife or push dagger and you're done. Also, nice assumption you're just going to slip the first couple of strikes. It's as dumb of an assumption as a boxer assuming he'll never be taken down. You need to have both striking and grappling.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Give ANYONE a knife or dagger and you're done, lmao. The frick is your point, dumbass

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I ducked the first punch in a fight and ended it a second later when I slammed his head into the pavement.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Was he a boxer?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Which is why you take one striking and one grappling art. Krav Maga is dogshit at both, it worse than taking one art, it's a million times worse than two.
          The average subhuman that participates in street fights are awful at fighting and 99% of the time losses instantly vs someone who looks like they know how to throw a punch.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >you need Krav Maga
        Nobody does. israelitejitsu is woowoo bullshit.
        You need boxing or any variation of kickboxing.

        Krav is a nice icing on a cake of already established martial arts abilities. It teaches going for someones eyes, nose, balls, etc.
        Also, just fricking running away.
        As a martial art ONLY?
        Yeah its trash by itself in the same way bjj is trash for striking and boxing is trash for ground.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >you need Krav Maga
      Nobody does. israelitejitsu is woowoo bullshit.
      You need boxing or any variation of kickboxing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You need to have a game for each position. Be well rounded, and also armed and if you use a knife have a lanyard made of paracord attached so the other guy doesn't disarm you and also just carry a gun maybe 2

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Krav Maga bad because its popular and popular thing bad

      Hes probably just a poltard schizo that doesnt like it because its israeli

      krav maga is just use anything to your advantage.
      >martial arts show with some karate guy and some big wrestler guy
      >they go to israeliteland
      >krav maga instructor has 3 dudes rush him
      >goes back to his training and does karate or wrassling
      >later on the instructor is like why didnt you grab a stick or something to hit them etc?

      This. In my limited experience, BBJ is a really racist sphere of guys who either are deep in the closet, are incels, or who are just alt-right morons who're going no where in life. Lots of bullshit artists in BBJ.

      The only people who shit in Krav Maga do so because the originator was israeli. The USMC, FBI, and other groups use it either straight or as a component of their own courses. It's popular because it's simple, and it works.

      Krav Maga is a hilarious scam. And to that last poster, in the Marines we have something called MCMAP. And do you know what MCMAP has basically turned into? MMA with a little bit of clubs and knives thrown in there once in a while to spice up the training.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It was designed on a basis of Judo, which was not intended to have punches.
      But Judo has punches, anon.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If we're talking practical irl then going to ground is a bad idea to start with. Chances are if he's starting fights then he's got some buddies with him who will soccer kick you in the head if it looks like he's losing the ground pound.
      Simple striking and blocks would be the best thing to learn so you can create an opening and gtfo. I.e boxing or muay thai

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you have your guard up you probably wouldn't let someone just get a clean punch to your head.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    there is a reason why we are not allowed to slam in practice, Id take a punch to the face any day over getting my head slammed in to concrete

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Duck cover and roll, or you can flash your penis, that would be a un heavenly sight if jocko willink pulls the indecent exposure card.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    krav maga is just use anything to your advantage.
    >martial arts show with some karate guy and some big wrestler guy
    >they go to israeliteland
    >krav maga instructor has 3 dudes rush him
    >goes back to his training and does karate or wrassling
    >later on the instructor is like why didnt you grab a stick or something to hit them etc?

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Use bjj to get dominant position. Start dropping massive elbows. It isnt hard lmao sometimes you need to knuckle frick the face so you can get that collar hold deeper.
    T. Gigachad roll partner

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        AY DIOS MIO. LA CREATURA

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dry humping til you become breathless.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    pretty simple, really.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yep. guns make martial arts obsolete in real life

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Using the body and manipulating firearms combined with movement is a martial art

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, it’s called gun-kata

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Literally the worlds best shooters tend to come from a martial arts background. Turns out being quick with your movements, drilling, and having strong wrists, and being used to adrenaline dumps from competition/sparring translates real well to gunfighting. Who knew.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        having a gun + knowing how to fight unarmed > only having a gun

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The real benefit to training martial arts is that it’s an arena where you can fight hard and for real with a low likeliness of firings the military doesn’t train larp magoo during basic because they actually think you’re going to fight the taliban hand to hand, they do it because it teaches you how to deal with an adrenaline dump and gives you confidence to engage the enemy regardless of the distance.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >firings
            *dieing

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          funny part about this is the very non-technical shitty TMA takedown this guy did and still disarmed and shot him to death hahaha

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Does someone understand what the hell happened here? I don't see how the gun changed hands. Did the guy who drew the gun set it down on the stool, and then the other guy picked it up? Or did he really manage to grab it out of his hand before the takedown? When could that have happened? Some kind of strange sequence of events happened here.

          Anyway, I think the moral here is less about knowing how to fight unarmed, and more about drawing your gun to intimidate someone without having the resolve to fire it. He could've shot him, but apparently he wasn't thinking of shooting him, he was thinking once he drew, he'd be in charge of the situation. Although he had escalated it into a deadly conflict, he wasn't prepared to use the deadly force he threatened, and faced with an unarmed attack, he seems to have been trying to hold the gun out of reach and de-escalate the situation somehow rather than pointing it toward his opponent to end the threat.

          having a gun + knowing how to fight armed > only having a gun

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >what the hell happened here
            red low draws his pocket peeper in his right hand at 0:15. blue stuffs the gun with his left hand and chop sockys red's neck, while extracting the gun. then blue snakes his arm around and facepulls red backward doing a inside leg sweep (kosoto gari) to his back right leg.
            then he lights a homie up like pokeman and steps over the body.
            It's not the prettiest but that's some fairly normal self defense stuff you would train in jujitsu or whatever

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Ok, I think I got it now. Just someone else's arm in there in one key moment, and another person's knee in another makes me think their arms are in different places so they can't both have their hands on the gun at time when they must have. Confusing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        When it comes to defending yourself, having a few redundancies is worthwhile.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Probably blocking?

  14. 2 years ago
    FullAuto308

    pulling a gun and shooting the guy. lol.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Like that scene in Indiana Jones where he just seems slightly annoyed at having to shoot the homosexual doing fancy dance moves lmao

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ is good it condition you and you learn some ground game, your always gonna be at disadvantage when facing bigger guys or armed people. It might save you it might not but its better then no experience. don't let the gun/knife be your crutch and start working that body.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unless your first punch is a knock out ~ which if you're not in the top 0.1% of boxers, it's not going to be ~ the fight will end up on the ground, and you need a game plan for that situation. BJJ is unmatched on the ground. German Jiu-jitsu is more rounded, and generally includes training in striking. Judo is good for getting the opponent on the ground, not quite as effective as Jiu-jitsu once you've got them there. Virtually all martial arts training completely negated by a simple knife, but still good for well being.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >So, what is the bjj's answer to just getting fricking punched in the face?
    Quitting team butt scoot and learning to wrestle or box.

    Jiu jitsu is just another overly complicated and unrealistic bullshido style “martial art” for manlets to waste years “studying” before some jock kid with a background in HS or NCAA spikes them into the ground.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if youre in grappling range, you can't really punch because to punch you need your entire body to generate significant power so somebody who is controlling your body can stop you from punching effectively.

    the threat the BJJ users is getting soccer kicked or stomped by an extra. which is why BJJ is a trash tier self-defense skill because the best self-defense is running away and therefore any fighting style that allows you to run away the fastest i.e. boxing and other standing styles is the best

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's the biggest flaw right there that nobody until now has brought up. It MUST be an honorabu 1v1. You CANNOT engage or defend against multiple targets whereas with the other disciplines, you can at the very least try. Can't try at all when your tied in a knot with the other guy and his buddy right there free to do whatever.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        When youre not rolling with another BJJer you can put in and finish moves almost inhumanly fast, as in you can close, throw and finish your lock before you both hit the ground. Then you get up again while he has a long think about his broken wrist/elbow/knee/whatever.
        The only things that take time are chokes and strangles if youre trying to hurt someone instead of submit them

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'm sure as the one performing it it feels lightning quick but the whole process isn't as fast as you're making it out to be. If it truly were that fast, there would be no reason for any other discipline to exist.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but I assume he’s talking about someone untrained, obviously if they know how to fight in general, not just doing bjj, it’s going to be a lot harder to manipulate them. That said, in my younger years I fought multiple times and judo proved successful even in the one large brawl I was involved in.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Many other discplines teach the same thing, but BJJ has the best training and therefore the best results in practice.
            Think sport fencing vs HEMA. Both teach sword fighting only one has practical training that yeilds objective results

            Not him but I assume he’s talking about someone untrained, obviously if they know how to fight in general, not just doing bjj, it’s going to be a lot harder to manipulate them. That said, in my younger years I fought multiple times and judo proved successful even in the one large brawl I was involved in.

            Judo works too.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >bjj has the best training
              Lmao

              In all seriousness though the question is “better for what?” Obviously bjj is probably going to be the best on the ground since that’s their focus, but I could argue that judo is better for self defense because we focus on speed and action rather than complex set ups. Someone could make an argument that boxing is better because you’re most likely to be punched in a defensive situation and they’re the best at dealing with that for obvious reasons.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Better for everything unarmed. BJJ fought boxers and won. Fought judoka and won. Fought muay thai and won. Fought karate and won. Fought w/o rules and won. Fought w/rules and won. It was objectively the best. Now it's fundamentals to basically all MMA. Facts.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                bjj jesus helio got ragdolled then got his shoulder popped by kimura, which is how you got the name kimura.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not to mention Ezekiel and that one match with with Toshiba where Royce got tapped but then b***hed to get the win overturned because he got choked with Yoshidas gi despite that not being illegal.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Toshiba
                *yoshida

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That all depends on the competition a person is facing, fighting a mailman or fast food worker is not as impressive as beating a champion at something. I just saw an MMA match where a bjj black belt fought a Muay Thai fighter and as the bjj guy goes for a takedown the Muay Thai fighter clips him good and then starts punching the back of the guys head. It's always about the individual, the style you practice doesn't automatically win the fight, it is the decisions you decide to make in the middle of a fight that win. Also bjj is judo, they are the same art but different sports. The gracies literally just took judo and renamed it, it is called something else since they started a big fighting racket challenging people to fights using judo and people see them winning and they call it their brand so people associate it with them. Kano JuJutsu -> Gracie/Brazilian JuJutsu, it is just their style of judo.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                UFC was created and rigged to sell gracie jiujitsu.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >UFC was created and rigged to sell gracie jiujitsu.
                the UFC was a meal ticket idea from a two bit promotor that was going to cash in on washed up/hasbeen martial artists and cheap talent from bananaville.
                It was later rigged to prevent BJJ from dominating the new sport so completely as to render it boring. Every single rule put into early UFC (after 1) was designed to nerf BJJ specifically. So you're sort of right, it did sell a lot of Gracie juice, but it was rigged against them, not for them

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >tell ken shamrock "no you can't wear wrestling shoes"
                >gracie gets to wear his fricking gi and uses it for leverage several times
                Things may have changed eventually but there was plenty of bullshit

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                While you’re right about ufc the Gracie’s have done a lot of dirty frickery to cover up their losses. I mentioned their loss to yoshida above, but this video documents some of their worst behavior. They’re favela monkeys to the core.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah like the fact you can't kick a homosexual in the guard position in the face that really makes the fights more realistic

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You can't kick a guarding opponent in the face because he is guarding his face.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Let me soccer kick you full force in the face with your guard up and you can tell me how well it worked after picking up your teeth

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                High kicking in MMA is a fast way to get a broken leg.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Getting kicked in the head is a fast way to end up with permanent brain damage

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Also I'm not taking about high kicking moron I'm talking about kicking the homosexuals that crawl up in there bjj b***h guards

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You do realize that it’s common in MMA and jiujitsu training to practice moving in the ground to keep your legs between you and your opponent. Unless you have mr fantastic legs you’re not soccer kicking anyone. Alternatively if you try to back up for a running start I’m just going to stand up.

                People who don’t know how to fight shouldn’t talk about martial arts

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They nearly always know at least the bit of wrestling needed to apply their art and a man who can wrestle will beat a man who can only strike every time barring the rare occasion a hail mary knockout is achieved while move backwards to a man who's probably going for legs with his chin tucked.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >i have made a thread and posted a statement. nothing you can do can change my opinion but i need to let all of you know what it is.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What is boxings answer to just getting fricking strangulated?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cry to referee: "Break! Break!"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think they have a punch that can counter someone wrapping both hands around their neck

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We are strongest when we are calm and focused

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >We are strongest when we are calm and focused

      Das rite

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do people who shit on martial arts not understand that you don't actually lose anything by learning one? Practicing BJJ doesn't mean you can only use legal BJJ moves, it's just extra things you know that your opponet (outside an actual match environment) probably doesn't. You can still punch them in the face. You can still gouge at eyes. You can still go for a knife or a gun. You just also know extra things that can situationally be very effective.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You're on PrepHole, and on a PrepHole that's been invaded by troons. Do you think you can convince them that hard work pays off? They just want to believe that with a little bit of "combatives" reading online or in a book they will now destroy everyone in a fight because they learned the "speshul secrets".

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What I love most about this mindset is the idea that someone whose constantly working on self improvement wouldn't have also found and learned any relevant special tricks to gain the upper hand in the greater amount of time they invest to research and training versus shortcut anon.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Hard work pays off
        Not always. Hell. Look at this subject right now. A dude can put in the blood, sweat, and tears learning BJJ but at the end of the day, he's learned a useless 1v1 only sporting style. He put in the hard work but you can't look at me with a honest face and tell me it paid off.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If you're standing, you can run or draw your concealed handgun. If you cannot draw your concealed handgun, it's probably because somehow has a grip on you or has you on the ground. BJJ is good for turning that situation into one you can run from or draw your concealed handgun from.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He'll be in shape and feel confident that he can hold his own against other men. You on the other hand have to constantly live in fear and always be thinking about drawing your CCW in a split second because a guy walks past you. That's worth its weight in gold. And he can CCW too, just on a more comfortable level with much more leeway on when he can draw.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Against one(1) other man. If you're going to put in the effort. Make it count for something. That's what I'm getting at. Hard work doesn't pay off when you squander the effort on something useless. Another example. Restore from the chassis up a 1996 Pontiac sunbird. Restorations take time, hard work, and enough money to have bought a good used car. when you're finished, look me in the eye and tell me that paid off. Do it.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              No, it helps against multiple men as well. If you get taken down, knocked to the ground, trip, etc. You have the ability to get back on your feet in an instant, not stuck under a guy. And again, even if I never did have to use my grappling in a fight, it doesn't matter, because I'd rather live in a world where I can handle my own against a man, than live in a world where I have to be in constant fear/worry that the man next to me could do as he wish with me. Along with being in shape, having confidence, and all while having fun and challenging myself, yeah, it pays off ten fold.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is the truth about martial arts. They may give you additional options in CERTAIN situations, but don't count on them to win a fight or save your life

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >answer to just getting fricking punched in the face?
    Take it and get mad!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You had to post a Black person hu? What compels you to do that?

      >inb4 to troll racists

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Conflating homie with bigger
        You are moronic

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What is boxing's answer to just getting punched in the face?

    I see boxers get punched in the face 100 times a fight or more. I guess boxing has no answer to getting fricking punched in the face.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's because it's two boxers going at it. Two trained fighters who have been training night and day to knock each other's block off. What do you think would happen if you threw an average joe in the ring? Someone with zero boxing experience?

      Hell you can just type in israeliteTube "boxer streetfight" and see guys who probably haven't even done a single amateur fight, but just go to a boxing gym everyonce in a while annihilate people.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >talking about martial arts and fighting largely in the 1st world context
    >randomly brings up Black folk
    why do you let them live in your head for free like that anon

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ is gay.
    >but it's effective!
    Still gay.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You're so fricking new and oblivious it hurts lmao

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Says the homosexual who thinks PrepHole always existed LOLOLOL. You can't even bring yourself to say Black person, you fricking troon homosexual.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Go leave Black person. You’ve always been a containment board

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >always been a containment board

          Listen new gay troon, there wasn't a /misc/ in the beginning, it was made with the hopes that it would clean up the boards. And there wasn't a PrepHole either, it was just PrepHole. When moot got rid of PrepHole the recent owner/s have tried to streamline it since it's a traffic heavy site by creating blue boards when there wasn't any back then. Now you now homosexual. Keep pretending to have been an old gay though. Surely the side that has to resort to lies is the side of righteousness and truth right?

          Underage, illiterate, AND moronic. Quite the combo you've got there

          Nice ad hominem, are you a woman? This isn't plebbit you know? No one here falls for the "pretend to be the bigger man" homosexualry.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >This isn't plebbit you know
            Yeah, so why are you here? A little lost?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >gets angry when people say Black person
              >accuses me of being plebbit

              Seriously, who are you trying to fool? lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Listen new gay troon, there wasn't a /misc/ in the beginning, it was made with the hopes that it would clean up the boards. And there wasn't a PrepHole either, it was just PrepHole. When moot got rid of PrepHole the recent owner/s have tried to streamline it since it's a traffic heavy site by creating blue boards when there wasn't any back then. Now you now homosexual. Keep pretending to have been an old gay though. Surely the side that has to resort to lies is the side of righteousness and truth right?
            What kind of revisionism is this? PrepHole and chan.notPrepHole or whatever the frick it was date back to nearly the beginning. Hiro didn't invent work safe boards either.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Underage, illiterate, AND moronic. Quite the combo you've got there

          gauging by the post times, and the nearly identical sentence lengths, obvious samegay.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Another newbie spotted. Try to post twice in 6 seconds. Go ahead, try it right now you moronic fricking homosexual lmao

            >gets angry when people say Black person
            >accuses me of being plebbit

            Seriously, who are you trying to fool? lol

            >h-hey fellow PrepHoleners!! Im edgy just like you guyz, am I fitting in yet?? Black personhomosexual LOL!!

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              So wait... Now you're telling the anon that PrepHoleners do say Black person and he's trying too hard to fit in? Because his whole point is that this site does say Black person. And it's true. Why are you trying to hard to pretend PrepHole is a leftist safe space? It's not any kind of safe space. Fricking redditors I swear. Disingenuous little b***hes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Shut the frick up, Black person.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Underage, illiterate, AND moronic. Quite the combo you've got there

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Simple, they don't get punched in the face and they demolish you.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1. wrestling
    2. boxing/kick boxing
    3. judo
    4. bj j
    5. meme south Asiatic martial art that only works on 80lb flips
    6. whatever steven segal does in under siege
    6.5 shenmue
    7. dancing/kung fu
    8. the rest of what steven segal does
    9. mall karate
    10. krab maga

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dont just train bjj

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Control and submissions. It’s the reason why MMA is superior though because a lot of joy Hutus moves are much harder when you get smacked in the face.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Most peopke who do jiu jitsu seriously, train a striking style like Muay Thai as well as a takedown style like judo or wrestling.

    Jiu jitsu alone will not save you from a good street fighter, but just 2 years of striking with jiu jitsu makes it not even close.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > a good street
      You mean some drunk moron who most likely doesn’t even exercise? I think you’ll be fine without dedicating your life to learning every martial art.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if hes in my gaurd then I grab his arm and wrist, buck my hips upward so his armpit is touching my groin and i break his arm in the wrong direction

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nun of u crackas can even fight, or eva been in a fight in yall lifes. Only thang yall know is fricking dogs n smokin meth.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's answer is to train in kickboxing/Muay Thai as well as BJJ or something like that. Why limit yourself? If you really want to be ready for a fight you'd be better off having solid fundamentals in both stand up and ground pound. I did Muay Thai for years and I rate it for stand up but it doesn't really help you in the floor. Although you can agree clinching would help to prevent being on the floor in the first place I'm sure someone who knows what they're doing will still get you there.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares? I practice bjj so tomboys with a bone to pick can smother me with their thighs

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I've always wondered what happens if you get a boner in a martial arts class. Is the blood just too busy going elsewhere?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Never happened to me when sparring with girls. At least to me it's completely un-sexual.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's absolutely not sexual. Husband and wife teams go to the BJJ gyms all the time and watch their partners roll all over the floor with others of the opposite sex, it doesn't phase them because they're secure and understand it's not a big deal.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >get a boner in martial arts class
        it could happen while you're waiting around maybe but if it happens while doing drills or sparring you have died, because a corpse will briefly get an erection and sometime emit semen directly after death

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >End up with thigh scissors around your neck for the 19th time in the same night
      >*labored speaking, nearly passing out*"W-wow, I-I guess-s-s I'm n-not very gooooood at thi-"
      >never tap out, pass out touching yourself

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What is the legality of using a self defense weapon while doing BJJ? For instance, say you're rolling with a guy who is fighting you and then you say "frick it" and draw your gun and kill him, is that legally the same as if you drew the gun and fired from the beginning? Do you think you'd have trouble with prosecutors arguing that you were beating his ass so why would you need to draw a weapon, or something like that?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Just say he was reaching for his gun and you were faster. Even if he didn't have a gun that's still a viable defense.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Rubber guard is used to take the opponent's arms out of the ground game. You just have to time it perfectly. Also, Garry Tonon, one of the world's best BJJ practitioners, is now fighting MMA One Championship. I'd recommend him as how BJJ is applicable in MMA. Danaher is his couch too.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being a BJJ bro and getting killed in a fight because the guy trying to kill you tapped out and you let him go by reflex.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah really imagine that, since it’s never actually happened outside of your imagination.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You know it has.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You know it hasn’t or every homosexual rbsd guy in the world would be parading that one in a million story everywhere.

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