>Performs the role of APC >Would not perform role well if forced to operate as an MBT >Would also just avoid doing so at all costs
Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't you?
I don't gym. I'm 160 lbs at 6'3". Which is strange because I feel like I eat a lot of food.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You might have a parasite or something
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I'm 160 lbs at 6'3" >I feel like I eat a lot of food.
"hard-gainers" have the exact same problem as fatties who "barely eat anything"
you have no idea how much you're actually eating on a day to day basis. you might gorge yourself once or twice a week and then barely eat anything the rest of the week.
weigh your food, put it into a calorie tracker-- I use Cronometer, pic related-- when you're trying to gain weight, always err on the side of saying that you're undereating, with the opposite when you're trying to lose weight. Be consistent with it. Significant weight change happens over time
You’re shorter than me by a whole 3 centimeters lol
Finally someone to make me feel tall
1 month ago
Anonymous
Manlet
1 month ago
Anonymous
1 month ago
Anonymous
Wait aren't you the nagant guy
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah and I just came here so this thread had nothing to do with me
1 month ago
Anonymous
Nagant guy? QRD?
1 month ago
Anonymous
asking him about height was my first post this thread
1 month ago
Anonymous
Did he post a picture of him with a nagant or something? Is he cute?
1 month ago
Anonymous
While you're here, could you repost the stuff you did to improve the trigger pull?
1 month ago
Anonymous
File the root quarter of the mainspring (where both sides meet) with a garden gnomeelry polish. Remove about a quarter or the material or till it is no thicker than the rest of the spring. Polish the pylons and other surfaces that rotate and put a 7.5mm ball bearing as a shim at the bottom of the mainspring
It’s much easier than the work on other guns
1 month ago
Anonymous
Thanks lanklet
1 month ago
Anonymous
Be sure to put a round shim below the mainspring. Angular will make it fail and you’ll need a new spring. These work good https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0824W72GS
You could just do that and skip the polish but I don’t like gritty triggers
1 month ago
Anonymous
Primo, and this time I'll screencap this.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I’ll just dump the rest of the guides since it’s a dumb thread anyways
1 month ago
Anonymous
1 month ago
Anonymous
1 month ago
Anonymous
Despite what it said I file both the top and bottom sides of the base since one does SA and the other DA
1 month ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/aAHeukS.jpg
Looks cool. Did it work better than the OG tank?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Did it work better than the OG tank?
Sorta. They didn't serve side by side, the original tanks were license built ČKD LT vz. 38, aka the Panzer 38(t), and Pbv301 served in the sixties. So by not being completely outdated and irrelevant I guess it did quite a bit better than the tank would have at the time. They weren't meant as more than a stop-gap solution though, the tracks did poorly in rocky terrain, the clutch was a bitch and a half, and the interior was just too cramped for the infantry to bring all the shit they needed (I'd guess size is likely why light tank based IFVs are so rare). A decade after first introduction most had already been phased out of service and left on the wrong end of the shooting ranges.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Aren’t light tanks too frail for the front lines and too slow to scout? Wouldn’t converting some to IFV and using the remainder for IFV fire support/guard be a way for poor countries to get use out of outdated light tanks?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>and too slow to scout?
Scouting was often one of the main tasks light tanks were built to do.
>Wouldn’t converting some to IFV /.../ be a way for poor countries to get use out of outdated light tanks?
An IFV needs to fit a whole bunch of people. Light tanks on the other hand tended to not be very large and roomy. So you're going to need quite a lot of re-building to turn the latter into the former. This means more work, which drives up the cost... And as with the Pbv301 the result may still be somewhat lacking.
I'm also wondering if there's really been a lot of poor countries around with a bunch of old light tanks to convert. Hasn't the cheap-ass option for much of the Cold War rather been things like T-55 and second hand Shermans?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Vietnam and N Korea have lots of PT76 and tend to have smaller soldiers on average so I’m sure they’d fit
And the armor on it is still pretty good by IFV benchmarks
1 month ago
Anonymous
The other weird thing is aren’t lots of IFVs built like light tanks? BMP/Bradley some even have light tank variants.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Light tanks aren't as big of a thing past WW2 and so there's less of them developed from scratch, and if you do want one, well, converting your IFV chassis may save some money and time in development.
>Hasn't the cheap-ass option for much of the Cold War rather been things like T-55 and second hand Shermans?
there were never that many shermans
the primary FMS option was the M47 and M48 patton, since the M60A1 meant nearly 20,000 of both types were available for sale
Noted. At least they're mediums/MBTs, so my thoughts about light ones not being the main budget options still stands it seems (by sheer luck if nothing else).
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Hasn't the cheap-ass option for much of the Cold War rather been things like T-55 and second hand Shermans?
there were never that many shermans
the primary FMS option was the M47 and M48 patton, since the M60A1 meant nearly 20,000 of both types were available for sale
1 month ago
Anonymous
To think the light tank repurposing tangent started after anon wanted to chud all manlets
1 month ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/PZ1RLRX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9LbXL2C.jpg
Despite what it said I file both the top and bottom sides of the base since one does SA and the other DA
https://i.imgur.com/6so7ZQC.jpg
[...]
Looks cool. Did it work better than the OG tank?
Where'd you find all this?
1 month ago
Anonymous
I think from googling gunsmithing resources in Google scholar
1 month ago
Anonymous
https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/A671757988/AONE?u=txshracd2564&sid=googleScholar&xid=c0f5f22e
Think I found it
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yes
That’s it
1 month ago
Anonymous
:^)
1 month ago
Anonymous
Thanks for finding it btw
Here is the PDF in case anyone else needs https://files.catbox.moe/orxam4.pdf
I remember now that’s where I read that Finnish captured guns often have trigger mods
1 month ago
Anonymous
np, seems like an essential piece of knowledge for anybody with a nagant
1 month ago
Anonymous
I have a fetish for outdated hand guns
End of story
1 month ago
Anonymous
And you have cute girly hands. Even the sweatshirt covering the palms is cute.
1 month ago
Anonymous
He’s a hoodie-wearing twink who loves old handguns
1 month ago
Anonymous
>3 centimeters
That would be 170cm, and realistically you have rounded that up from 169cm.
Bridges are the real problem. There aren't so many creeks in Israel, but there's an unending amount of crappy Soviet-era bridges all across Ukraine that are barely rated for the lightweight tanks they have around those parts.
After WW2, Soviet generals were so used to amphibious assault crossing rivers, so they heavily insisted on making almost all frontline machinery lightweight enough to be able to cross river.
Why does the namer have the same weight as the merk if it does not have a turret? Where does all that weight come from? Thanks
1 month ago
Anonymous
extra armor
its supposedly more armored than even the merkava IV, with all the weight saved by removing the turret "re-invested in armor" to use an exact quote
1 month ago
Anonymous
1 month ago
Anonymous
just compare pictures of the Merk4 and the Namer and you will see how all the turret space is used for more crew space and some areas are thicker
1 month ago
Anonymous
The namer is about 10 tonnes lighter
1 month ago
Anonymous
Well this annoys me, because ARMA 3 taught me that the Namer was not as well armored as the Merkerva.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Height adds side wall area, and area*thickness is volume, times density is weight. A Tank hull is only so tall for driver to lay down driving.
An optimized APC is just moving sandbags for troops to craw behind.
Do you know the reason for that?
Ground pressure is not all, having a strong enough engine and other minor details like how easy the tracks get blocked by mud alone are also important.
Excellently. There's video of these things shrugging off multiple direct ATGM hits. They could still be mobility killed and ACK'd by artillery, but passengers would do better in these than any other APC in use today.
Namer's only problems are price point and being a big boy.
Its hard to get a feel for the size in pictures, but irl those things are ridiculously huge, even a Merkava Mk4 is a bit ol' bitch, but this thing is even bigger.
>Identifies as an APC >Significantly physically altered from a tank >Works exactly the same as an APC, but larger
Transphobe bros.... Maybe we were wrong...
there has been a troubling amount of trap posts over the years. PrepHole also has a lot of chud talk now that I think about it. This whole website needs Jesus
Reminder that the T-15 is longer and bigger than the Namer but somehow carries fewer troops. I dunno what they have instead. I don't THINK they have more guns. But knowing Russia they do.
No, but maybe you're thinking of the Achzarit, which is built on the chassis of T-54/55s captured from the Syrians and Egyptians in 1967 and 1973. Waste not, want not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDF_Achzarit
>other countries make APC >"but what if a tank attacks?" >put literal tonnes of autocannon and/or ATGM on APC >Israel makes APC >"but what if a tank attacks?" >wherever Namer goes, Merkava follows
This thing is supposed to have more armor than a Merkava since it's about the same weight and no turret, and it was supposedly able to eat a kornet hit.
>Why do the garden gnomes make such cool vehicles?
they saw a lot of combat
with 4 major conventional wars throughout the cold war and they saw a lot of unconventional war throughout the 2000s
so they have accrued a lot of experience which they immediately put back to use tailoring their vehicles
they also have a little bit of island syndrome, their vehicles are primarily geared towards fighting local threats and using a much local manufacture as possible
the merkava has an almost futuristic looking turret despite being designed in the 70s, like a tank P90
this is due to them trying to squeeze as much protection out of plain steel armor as possible in the face of HEAT
so the turret is as small as possible to reduce the odds of a hit, and as steeply sloped as they can to maximize LOS armor and increase the odds that an enemy RPG warhead might fail to fuze
once composite armor became available, the merkava was then redesigned to have minimal base armor but the ability to be up-armored up to western standards, due to the wild swings between conventional and unconventional war, resulting in a turret shape that looks like a cross between a WW2 crusader tank and a UFO
>Performs the role of APC
>Would not perform role well if forced to operate as an MBT
>Would also just avoid doing so at all costs
Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't you?
Exactly. This is why all men under 6 foot should just become girls.
>He doesn't want tall traps
surely that should be all men unable to bench 140lbs
But that would include me anon.
are you cute and breedable?
Depends on the day
You seriously can’t bench 140? Bro I bench 315 as a dyil the fuck is your problem
I don't gym. I'm 160 lbs at 6'3". Which is strange because I feel like I eat a lot of food.
You might have a parasite or something
>I'm 160 lbs at 6'3"
>I feel like I eat a lot of food.
"hard-gainers" have the exact same problem as fatties who "barely eat anything"
you have no idea how much you're actually eating on a day to day basis. you might gorge yourself once or twice a week and then barely eat anything the rest of the week.
weigh your food, put it into a calorie tracker-- I use Cronometer, pic related-- when you're trying to gain weight, always err on the side of saying that you're undereating, with the opposite when you're trying to lose weight. Be consistent with it. Significant weight change happens over time
You mean 180
kys
It's okay shorty. You can still be a tall girl.
I’d still just be average…
How short?
167cm
You’re shorter than me by a whole 3 centimeters lol
Finally someone to make me feel tall
Manlet
Wait aren't you the nagant guy
Yeah and I just came here so this thread had nothing to do with me
Nagant guy? QRD?
asking him about height was my first post this thread
Did he post a picture of him with a nagant or something? Is he cute?
While you're here, could you repost the stuff you did to improve the trigger pull?
File the root quarter of the mainspring (where both sides meet) with a garden gnomeelry polish. Remove about a quarter or the material or till it is no thicker than the rest of the spring. Polish the pylons and other surfaces that rotate and put a 7.5mm ball bearing as a shim at the bottom of the mainspring
It’s much easier than the work on other guns
Thanks lanklet
Be sure to put a round shim below the mainspring. Angular will make it fail and you’ll need a new spring. These work good https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0824W72GS
You could just do that and skip the polish but I don’t like gritty triggers
Primo, and this time I'll screencap this.
I’ll just dump the rest of the guides since it’s a dumb thread anyways
Despite what it said I file both the top and bottom sides of the base since one does SA and the other DA
Looks cool. Did it work better than the OG tank?
>Did it work better than the OG tank?
Sorta. They didn't serve side by side, the original tanks were license built ČKD LT vz. 38, aka the Panzer 38(t), and Pbv301 served in the sixties. So by not being completely outdated and irrelevant I guess it did quite a bit better than the tank would have at the time. They weren't meant as more than a stop-gap solution though, the tracks did poorly in rocky terrain, the clutch was a bitch and a half, and the interior was just too cramped for the infantry to bring all the shit they needed (I'd guess size is likely why light tank based IFVs are so rare). A decade after first introduction most had already been phased out of service and left on the wrong end of the shooting ranges.
Aren’t light tanks too frail for the front lines and too slow to scout? Wouldn’t converting some to IFV and using the remainder for IFV fire support/guard be a way for poor countries to get use out of outdated light tanks?
>and too slow to scout?
Scouting was often one of the main tasks light tanks were built to do.
>Wouldn’t converting some to IFV /.../ be a way for poor countries to get use out of outdated light tanks?
An IFV needs to fit a whole bunch of people. Light tanks on the other hand tended to not be very large and roomy. So you're going to need quite a lot of re-building to turn the latter into the former. This means more work, which drives up the cost... And as with the Pbv301 the result may still be somewhat lacking.
I'm also wondering if there's really been a lot of poor countries around with a bunch of old light tanks to convert. Hasn't the cheap-ass option for much of the Cold War rather been things like T-55 and second hand Shermans?
Vietnam and N Korea have lots of PT76 and tend to have smaller soldiers on average so I’m sure they’d fit
And the armor on it is still pretty good by IFV benchmarks
The other weird thing is aren’t lots of IFVs built like light tanks? BMP/Bradley some even have light tank variants.
Light tanks aren't as big of a thing past WW2 and so there's less of them developed from scratch, and if you do want one, well, converting your IFV chassis may save some money and time in development.
Noted. At least they're mediums/MBTs, so my thoughts about light ones not being the main budget options still stands it seems (by sheer luck if nothing else).
>Hasn't the cheap-ass option for much of the Cold War rather been things like T-55 and second hand Shermans?
there were never that many shermans
the primary FMS option was the M47 and M48 patton, since the M60A1 meant nearly 20,000 of both types were available for sale
To think the light tank repurposing tangent started after anon wanted to chud all manlets
Where'd you find all this?
I think from googling gunsmithing resources in Google scholar
https://link.gale.com/apps/doc/A671757988/AONE?u=txshracd2564&sid=googleScholar&xid=c0f5f22e
Think I found it
Yes
That’s it
:^)
Thanks for finding it btw
Here is the PDF in case anyone else needs https://files.catbox.moe/orxam4.pdf
I remember now that’s where I read that Finnish captured guns often have trigger mods
np, seems like an essential piece of knowledge for anybody with a nagant
I have a fetish for outdated hand guns
End of story
And you have cute girly hands. Even the sweatshirt covering the palms is cute.
He’s a hoodie-wearing twink who loves old handguns
>3 centimeters
That would be 170cm, and realistically you have rounded that up from 169cm.
>you have rounded that up from 169cm.
Only two centimeters taller!
he or she got trips and you didn't.
Wat
Has anyone tried converting light tanks to IFV use?
>What if we used 100% of our brains
>one joke
is it a joke if OP is proving their point?
it's just tired at this point
Dail 8.
YWNBAW
Nothing personal kid but
>Heavy APC
How would these motherfuckers do in Ukraine?
>63.5 tonnes
Great, until there's any moisture on the ground.
the merkava has a ground pressure of 0.9 kg/cm*2 which is nearly identical to the M1A2 abrams, a vehicle which is known for its off-road capabilities
the namer is the same weight as the merk, so it would have mostly the same off-road capability
Bridges are the real problem. There aren't so many creeks in Israel, but there's an unending amount of crappy Soviet-era bridges all across Ukraine that are barely rated for the lightweight tanks they have around those parts.
After WW2, Soviet generals were so used to amphibious assault crossing rivers, so they heavily insisted on making almost all frontline machinery lightweight enough to be able to cross river.
IIRC it was also so that NATO vehicles couldn't cross, while the soviet (amphibious) vehicles could.
I have a question.
ugh shitlord, yes a real tank has curves
No sorry, my question is:
Why does the namer have the same weight as the merk if it does not have a turret? Where does all that weight come from? Thanks
extra armor
its supposedly more armored than even the merkava IV, with all the weight saved by removing the turret "re-invested in armor" to use an exact quote
just compare pictures of the Merk4 and the Namer and you will see how all the turret space is used for more crew space and some areas are thicker
The namer is about 10 tonnes lighter
Well this annoys me, because ARMA 3 taught me that the Namer was not as well armored as the Merkerva.
Height adds side wall area, and area*thickness is volume, times density is weight. A Tank hull is only so tall for driver to lay down driving.
An optimized APC is just moving sandbags for troops to craw behind.
Mt-lb with wide tracks has 0,28 (wide track) and is unable to operate in any real capacity in the muds of ukraiine during mud season.
Do you know the reason for that?
Ground pressure is not all, having a strong enough engine and other minor details like how easy the tracks get blocked by mud alone are also important.
Excellently. There's video of these things shrugging off multiple direct ATGM hits. They could still be mobility killed and ACK'd by artillery, but passengers would do better in these than any other APC in use today.
Namer's only problems are price point and being a big boy.
>Can carry 3 crew and 9 infantry
>(10 if you count the ashtray)
Underrated post
Its hard to get a feel for the size in pictures, but irl those things are ridiculously huge, even a Merkava Mk4 is a bit ol' bitch, but this thing is even bigger.
Mass production killdozers
>Mass Production Mobile Oppression Palaces
its more like an ifv chasis you bigoted chud
>Identifies as an APC
>Significantly physically altered from a tank
>Works exactly the same as an APC, but larger
Transphobe bros.... Maybe we were wrong...
>transphobe
why would I be afraid of somebody who can't figure out what a man or a woman is?
Why do you keep talking about chuds?
that was literally my first comment itt. my other one is to the guy who can't bench 140 lbs because he's a "hard-gainer"
>first comment
K has taught me that chuds and guns are inextricably linked
something something 40%
>implying 41% of k is chud
Based?
there has been a troubling amount of trap posts over the years. PrepHole also has a lot of chud talk now that I think about it. This whole website needs Jesus
I'm excited about all the MGCS vehicles.
Going to have my first grey hairs when they hit the scene though.
Img, this thing detonates folded inside the vehicle
Best protected APC. Yes, heavy but can go anywhere a MBT can.
APCs aren't inherently light, just most of them are.
Is it armoured? Is it carrying personell? Is it not armed enough to be an IFV? If yes, it's an APC.
Reminder that the T-15 is longer and bigger than the Namer but somehow carries fewer troops. I dunno what they have instead. I don't THINK they have more guns. But knowing Russia they do.
You will never be on the same level as the MOBILE OPPRESSION TOWER!
Is that build on a T-34 chassis?
Go google up an image of a T-34. Looks at the tracks and road wheels. Now look at that image again. Compare the two.
Nope. They were built on the hulls of Centurion tanks sold to them by the British.
No, but maybe you're thinking of the Achzarit, which is built on the chassis of T-54/55s captured from the Syrians and Egyptians in 1967 and 1973. Waste not, want not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDF_Achzarit
>other countries make APC
>"but what if a tank attacks?"
>put literal tonnes of autocannon and/or ATGM on APC
>Israel makes APC
>"but what if a tank attacks?"
>wherever Namer goes, Merkava follows
Wat
This thing is supposed to have more armor than a Merkava since it's about the same weight and no turret, and it was supposedly able to eat a kornet hit.
Why do the garden gnomes make such cool vehicles? Seriously? I'm throbbing!
>Why do the garden gnomes make such cool vehicles?
they saw a lot of combat
with 4 major conventional wars throughout the cold war and they saw a lot of unconventional war throughout the 2000s
so they have accrued a lot of experience which they immediately put back to use tailoring their vehicles
they also have a little bit of island syndrome, their vehicles are primarily geared towards fighting local threats and using a much local manufacture as possible
the merkava has an almost futuristic looking turret despite being designed in the 70s, like a tank P90
this is due to them trying to squeeze as much protection out of plain steel armor as possible in the face of HEAT
so the turret is as small as possible to reduce the odds of a hit, and as steeply sloped as they can to maximize LOS armor and increase the odds that an enemy RPG warhead might fail to fuze
once composite armor became available, the merkava was then redesigned to have minimal base armor but the ability to be up-armored up to western standards, due to the wild swings between conventional and unconventional war, resulting in a turret shape that looks like a cross between a WW2 crusader tank and a UFO