https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/153989-gunstron_kearsarge_poland/
So, burgers just sailed USS Kearsage (Wasp-class amphibious assault ship ) and USS USS Gunston Hall (dock landing ship) to Gdynia port in poland, basically a spitting distance from Kaliningrad Oblast.
Thats about two thousand marines with bunch of F-35s and AH-1Zs as air support.
That’s hot
Those helos look like fricking transformers when they're folded up like that.
You mean Königsberg, right?
The Germans don't want it. Give it to the Poles.
Sure, once all residents have been relieved of everything except for 1 set of weather-appropriate clothing, signed over all financial holdings, and been marched at gunpoint into Russia proper after signing a form permitting them to be immediately and summarily killed if they're ever seen in Poland again.
Angry poles are so cute, thinking they can do anything on their own.
Neither can Russia apparently.
Poles have enough M1A2s to flatten Russia
They don't have them yet but once they ge them, their F-35s, their HIMARS, and their eclectic drone swarm delivered I could see them taking back their easter territories from Belarus at the least.
Then we'll all need to worry about whether they and Lithuania will decide to anschluss and form a new great power.
I could see some kind of pan-Slavic federation forming before the century is out.
>https://twitter.com/mblaszczak/status/1549275467890524160
They already have a number of M1A1s and A2s, moron, they are being trained on them. Didn't even bother reading the rest of your post. Go ahead and respond with >twitter so I can post a laughing anime girl in response.
The Abrams delivered in July were on lease and loan from the US for training. Poland is supposed to get some this year that the Army will actually own but those July ones weren't it. Those were owned by the US.
>I could see them taking back their easter territories from Belarus at the least.
no sane polish person would ever want belarus or królewiec lol. There's nothing there, just white Black folk and we have that plenty in lublin and rzeszów
They conquered Moscow. Didn't you guys need to ally with the Nazis to annex Poland? But of course Russians would like the world to forget they were best friends with the Nazis until Hitler figured out Stalin was planning a backstab and beat that deformed Georgian gimp to the punch.
I remember this cartoon from my history textbooks in school lol
Poles can do a lot more then Russians.
>Angry poles are so cute, thinking they can do anything on their own.
In conventional war, Ukraine and Poland could team up and take Moscow in a month. Then again, Poland and the Vermont National Guard could do that as well.
>Polish soldiers and members Girl Scout Troop #2136 looting in recently-liberated New Warsaw (formerly: Moscow), 202X, colorized
Girl Scout Troop #2136 wouldn't be looting, they'd just be selling cookies in a very, very aggressive fashion.
They've the largest tank army in European NATO right now, so...
send the refugees to belarus first
get some revenge pole-frens
eastern eurocucks are all fricking trash and should be wiped off the face of the planet with a nuclear broom.
Shut the frick up Alb*nian
Based. They need to depopulate the area. Its not Russian lands its German/Polish lands.
its a money pit because russians are like radioactive material.you would have to tear down almost everything that they build.
No, the Russians literally dumped radioactive material, toxic waste and just pump the raw sewage into the Baltic rather than pay to treat the sewage.
It is a giant mess.
Well then just enslave the locals and force them to clean it up. Saves you money on fuel to drive them to the border afterwards since they'll probably all die of poisoning or radiation sickness.
It's simple. You remove everyone, restore any historic buildings, maintain useful infrastructure like ports and what is needed to keep them running, and the rest gets turned into a nice nature preserve.
Nah, Lets keep it for ourselves. And force the russians living there to walk back to the motherland trails of tears style.
Clean it up, deport the Imported Russias and have it be the offical EU capital city state
Nah, they'll just become a city state and have a bright future ahead of them as a tax haven. Essentially Monaco with more AIDs and less yachts.
Lithuania needs the clay more.
Lithuania can have Belarus
nah if so belarussians would join poland or make some state allied with poland, belarussian sounds like funny polish and belarussian opposition have heavy support from poland.
Soon
I think you mean to say Twangste
how much of a shithole has that place become ever since the commies took over?
a little posturing but obviously they'll never actually invade Russia
We have...
>Georgia threatening war
>Kazakhstan keeps fricking around and not finding out
>Poland and the US threatening war
>Azerbaijan keeps killing Russians and Albanians
>Ukraine fricking them up
>Baltics saying come on and fricking try it b***h
>Finland and Norway saying come on and try it b***h
>More than half of east Europe wanting to start shit
>US doing funnies with its warships
>UK training troops directly to kill Russians
>China is sitting there like yes please go to war I like free resources and free indentured servant states.
Can Russia get more fricked?
What else can go wrong?
Finland has also been training Ukries, and apparently so have Italy.
Turkey is also sending them drones, though using western money, half the world is sending aid of various amounts.
wtf why do people hate poor rossiya so much?
>I am a poor, young, white, attractive Russian girl, le bad Putin oppresses me, here is my video about how hard life in Russia is these days, here is my patreon and here is my OF, teehee :^)
>russian girls want to flee to the west even when Russian proper isn't being savagely bombed
really makes you think
They get any money through OF due to sanctions anon.
Don't get any* I should say
I wish she had an OF
Her body looks like it’s crying. Where is the vigor?
yeah, that's hot
She's a dyke
All women are bi because they belong in harems
100% lesbian women don't exist
>100% lesbian women don't exist
Incorrect. 100% straight women don't exist. Either lesbian or bi. Science!
>don't hit on me silly boys teehee :^)
I'll unplug her dyke with my dick
Yes. The vatnig haplogroup WILL disappear. This is Western victory on a genetic level
AHEM.
uoh.
Ya know, instead of risking males only why doesn't Russia train female soldiers for the invasion of Ukraine? Men are clearly not volunteering in the numbers they want, so they supplement the numbers with women. The Soviet Union found soldiers can be trained and deployed in around 8 weeks in the 80s so it's not like they don't have the institutional memory and experience. They'll be more motivated too instead because they get to kill Slav men.
Because Russian culture is worse than worthless, proven by their defilement of /k/ for which the lot should be butchered.
Russian shills ruining my enjoyment of this board and the internet in general have really made me wish for their demise. I think it was early in the pandemic on /misc/ that I actually told a shill this exact things... That I would absolutely be in favor of nuclear Armageddon if it meant he died and I could just use the internet from a subway tunnel in peace.
This. I actually used to think highly of the average Russian and wished our country's could cooperate more to destroy the muslim menace. But unfortunately the shills had to keep spewing bullshit non-stop until the whole internet was ruined and now I hate every last one of them with a burning rage that could eclipse the sun.
Those were the days, my friend
We thought they'd never end
We'd sing and dance forever and a day
We'd live the life we choose
We'd fight and never lose
For we were young and sure to have our way
I guess I was one of those useful idiots because while I never thought they were anywhere near a peer, I did think the whole "cheap but rugged" bullshit was legit and had a place in modern warfare. Also everything just seemed logical to me, the cold war was over and they were engaged with muslim extremists all over the world, just like we were. Unfortunately that all turned out to be propaganda and russia fricking loves muslims so much that they promote them not only fricking their women but also invading western Europe to establish the Soviet Caliphate of Russia. Needless to say my silly delusions are all shattered and I'll go to my grave hating russians and paying every tax dollar necessary for their destruction.
>I guess I was one of those useful idiots because while I never thought they were anywhere near a peer, I did think the whole "cheap but rugged" bullshit was legit and had a place in modern warfare.
I think the only part of that which is incorrect is the word "modern", and I think there are only about a half-dozen countries that could actual prosecute a "modern" war. It just happens that all of them are basically all-in for Ukraine at this point. The weapons they're going up against have literally evolved in an environment explicitly designed to make them better at killing Russians. Rats tend to get killed by rat traps too, even so they're a major force in the world.
True. Around 2014~2017 a lot of useful idiots, specially from here, started eating Russian propaganda up (knowingly or not) and shat all over the internet. Now everyone is a cynic.
>I actually used to think highly of the average Russian and wished our country's could cooperate more to destroy the muslim menace. But unfortunately the shills had to keep spewing bullshit non-stop until the whole internet was ruined and now I hate every last one of them with a burning rage that could eclipse the sun.
I know /k/ is a bunch of mouthbreathing rednecks and/or incels with power fantasies, but it's hard to believe anyone like this poster exists. I refuse to believe you can go from liking Russia because it's based and racist and traditional, to being a foaming at the mouth rabid anti-Russian liberal shit eater over the course of a few months. Posters like this have to be paid low-grade federal employees or bots.
Is it really so hard to imagine that someone who wants to kill Muslims would turn on Russia once they start killing white Europeans with Chechen Muslims?
If you care about the white race then you would have to counterbalance small instances of chechen rapes and murders with the fact that West vs. Russia overall is the operative battle here.
If you listen to what the liberals say, the only reason the US right wing / pro-white / anti-gay side exists anymore is because of Russian propaganda
>the white race
Who thinks most Rusists are actually white? They behave like snow Black folk; violent rapists and chickenshit torturers, who run away like fricking cowards. I think of them as scumbag asian morons.
>I think of them as scumbag asian morons.
Marx called them "Asiatic barbarians". The father of gommunizm fricking hated Russia, and continuously put out discourses demanding that Bolan' be reconstructed as a bulwark against them.
You sound working-class.
>You sound working-class.
More likely nonworking-class who is trying to get a job as a homosexual sniveling b***h.
What in particular?
Its surprising to see average /k/ types (militant racist, misogynist, people liberal society wants to eradicate) on an anti-russian bandwagon. Russia is the side that should naturally appeal to them
>why do centrists and moderates hate fricking evil
ultrapartisan politics has rotted your brain
basically every nation that donated kit sent trainers along to make sure they know how to use them
>why do centrists and moderates hate fricking evil
/k/ are not centrists and moderates. People that openly fantasize about other people getting killed, and talk about saving the white race and teaming up against the muslim world aren't moderates. It's reasonable for normal people to hate Russia. It's unreasonable for /k/ types to.
newbie, /k/, despite the /misc/ interlopers, has always been a very libertarian and liberal board, in the classical sense of liberal. Our most famous and accepted tripgays were a anime loving Black person who I'm certain fricked his Galil at one point who went to defend Bundy, a cross dressing 2hu affecionado who had a hardon for 5.7, a rich white kid who loved the SCAR, a gunsmith who would'd do the dumbest shit and document it for us, and a quite likely glowBlack person who either worked at a nuclear thinktank at the minimum or was doing even more fun stuff then that. Prior to the big influx of tourists with the 2016 election, this board was no more racist then any other, which meant that laughing at racist jokes and other form of edgy humor without any real malice behind it. The reason that /k/ doesn't come across as a centrist and moderate is because you have the few loud morons screeching constantly, and the Democrats have made it an eternal mission to frick over gun rights so saying anything nice about them is sure to catch the ire of people who think you have to like or dislike a party's entire platform to agree with them on a singular issue.
[nospoileron/k/]I fricking miss the way the board used to when it was a bunch of broke college kids who liked anime and guns. The whole Mosin being a good rifle meme was because it was the only thing a whole lot of us could afford and afford to feed, a fricking SKS was gucci shit[/spoiler]
>newbie, /k/, despite the /misc/ interlopers, has always been a very libertarian and liberal board, in the classical sense of liberal.
>this board was no more racist then any other, which meant that laughing at racist jokes and other form of edgy humor without any real malice behind it.
I've been here since 2011, thats a retcon. It was more libertarianish in the really early days like all of PrepHole but there has always been an actual right wing edge to it. Those guys shot up a crowd in minnesota and the whole board loved it
That was, what? 2019, long after the board had started to decline? It also was a pretty clear case of defending themselves from a mob, and they might have got off if they hadn't made a bunch of videos using a collection of edgy memes from here that they broke containment with.
MicNig is still far more famous then them, and I'd argue that boof and Openheimer are as well even if they've fricked off for greener pastures.
I googled it and it was 2015. Before the election and "board tourists"
>they might have got off if they hadn't made a bunch of videos using a collection of edgy memes from here that they broke containment with.
Yeah, a group of dudes talking about starting a race war and going to a crowd of black people in military gear then shooting them. It was all an elaborate attempt at being edgy, but not actual racism.
Why even go to lengths to deny it at that point
Didn't say they weren't racist, but if they wanted to start the racewar, they probably wouldn't have tried to run away before starting shooting and brought something bigger then their CC and some mean words. They pretty clearly forgot that edgy racist memes aren't going to be so well received by the average Black person on the street, much less ones hyped up on the koolaid at BLM march. However, they fricked around and found out.
I'm pretty sure dudes who crashed the Black person protest that ended up in attempted lynching and some shots fired in self defense against Black folk are most famous /k/ tripgays.
This is not a retcon, this is a real aspect of how /k/ used to be. It may not be the whole picture but it absolutely was accurate to a large segment of the userbase. It's good to know that some of us are still around.
tourist
PrepHole has never been that monolithic
/k/ was never a place for centrists. I'm well left of the average /k/ poster
>/k/ was never a place for centrists.
moderates on the other hand...
>/k/ are not centrists and moderates.
False. I am a moderate in full support of the complete genocide of the Russian "people" and it's land being partioned by civilized beings.
>/k/ are not centrists and moderates.
I dont think you understand the moderate viewpoint at all.
You’re surprised that all sorts of people manage to dislike Russia? It’s like that shitty countryball comic.
>Russia is so big! We have everything!
>Did you know we have THE WORST POSSIBLE OUTCOMES FOR ANY GIVEN SITUATION?
I never said I was a misogynist, that shit is cringe.
Southern Italians are whiter than russhits.
t. Half southie
What's implausible about someone who idolizes a particular nation for being "strong" ditches it when it proves to be a pathetic failure? You're going to see a lot of Putin worshippers switch to some other authoritarian leaders in the next couple of years, even if they're the polar opposite of trad, "white", "non-degenerate" Russia.
>What's implausible about someone who idolizes a particular nation for being "strong" ditches it when it proves to be a pathetic failure?
Yeah, that makes sense. At the end of the day most right wingers are right wing because they think gays, trannies, and other liberal stuff is weak and unmanly, not because of any conviction.
Good post but I doubt there are any leftists that think Russia or China is a workers gay utopia
>Good post but I doubt there are any leftists that think Russia or China is a workers gay utopia
Oh but there are, and they are annoying as frick. Their whole ideology boils down to "USA bad, therefore Russia/China good.". Any evidence to the contrary is immediately dismissed as imperialist propaganda.
>but I doubt there are any leftists...
Oh they exist alright, and trust me, nobody hates those absolute morons more than other lefties.
Russia largely kept it's head down and made overtures towards working with the West in the post 9-11 world. The globalization of the internet also means that a whole lot of people have friends who're from different countries, Russia included, and while Russian leadership is all corrupt bastards, people are largely people all over the globe. The US and Russia did have some similar goals in the Middle East, particularly wanting to see ISIS defeated, and there was certainly a chance for cooperation and mutual understanding before Putin chimped out in 2014 and made it clear that giving the Russians an inch would lead nowhere good. I don't hate Russians, but I do hate Russia and if the Russians are willing to wear the chains of slavery and apathy around their neck instead of revolting, I'm not going to be heartbroken about them suffering even if I'd prefer they didn't.
Russia's been acting like a huge Black person lately
>If you listen to what the liberals say, the only reason the US right wing / pro-white / anti-gay side exists anymore is because of Russian propaganda
Good thing I don't
Congratulations, you still fell for one of the sub-objectives of the propaganda.
Putin has been stoking "rusophobia" like crazy since 2014, trying to force normal Russians to come back to him and treat him as their last hope.
The average Russian is absolute scum, but there's plenty of decent Russians both in Russia and abroad.
don't post my russian crackhead waifu on /k/
Russiantare subhuman souless monsters who can only destroy and live in filth.
I also suspect Poland might be training Ukies but doesn't admit to it. They are probably send to Poland and back under guise of refugees.
>Azerbaijan keeps killing Russians and Albanians
Look up where Albania is on a map, anon
You doubt the Azeri Imperium? First Albania, then Algeria, then the world
Japan can threaten war for the Kuril Islands
would it actually take a war though? at this point they could send a ferry over there with a dozen rambunctious kindergarteners pointing their fingers like pistols and take it.
That rhetoric already came up in their domestic politics months ago.
/k/ is a goldfish.
Japan has declared intent on the Kuril being Japanese soil, but haven't really acted on it. Russia has moved some personnel and material, and blocked Japanese visa from visiting but nothing has really been that provoking. Though 3000 garrisoned Russian soldiers less than 100 miles from the Japanese homeland would be cause enough for me
Aren't most of them actually Ukrainian "colonists" deported to Siberia?
>Finland and Norway
Norway? Aren't they swimming in their ill-gotten shekels? Do you mean Sweden?
"Norway, we know that through careful planning and responsible energy policies you have become self-sufficient. But you must enter the EU free market if you want to do business with us"
"NORWAY WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING? YOU CANT FOLLOW THE FREE MARKET PRICES WHEN OUR OWN STUPID DECISIONS HAVE MADE US RELIANT ON RUSSIAN GAS!!!"
I fricking hate continentals so much. We give give give and get nothing but shit in return. At least we'll never join the club of morons that is the EU now.
You mean Armenia, but you are witnessing the end of the fractured remnant of an empire. This is essentially a body wracked by years of drug abuse convulsing on a table as its organs fail. After Russia capitulates you'll see its various holdings shrink ever further. Chechnya will move away, Georgia will move away. We may see action in Russia itself as the central government fractures. Remains to be seen, but it's not looking good.
Japan and china can start fricking around. Foreign air agencies can start ignoring the moronicly expensive air tariff over siberia. EU can actually invest in nuclear power or dump money into Ukraine for natural gas and oil.
The Philippines could dump a bunch of Moro Rebels onto those fake island the Chinese made and tell them to have fun. Doubt it happening but it’ll be funny. They can use those wooden fishing boats of theirs to conduct an amphibious landing.
Albanian here, what the frick are we doing near Azerbaijan?
Knowing you guys, probably stealing and drug dealing.
Trying to reform Caucasian Albania from antiquity one presumes.
>What else can go wrong?
That video of a S-300 shooting itself, but with a nuke
>What else can go wrong?
Russians finding their balls and starting an armed resistance (not counting the ones already fighting on Ukraine's side).
>destroys security system in europe
>Oh no! Why everything becomes unstable!?!
>Albanians
Armenians. Close but not really.
>What else can go wrong?
The full balkanization of Russia to several independent republics. Only its right not wrong.
Better start reading the Bible.
I suggest you check out that book of Revelation.
The Ukrainian Foreign Minister met his counterparts in Romania and Moldova which has had some people buzzing with anticipation of further mischief.
I will laugh my way into an early grave if Moldova invades Transnistria with Ukrainian and Romanian assurances in their back pocket.
Japan pressing their claim on the Kurils and Serbia trying to go in on Kosovo (and instantly getting splattered because that drags in NATO)
The Gunston Hall is the least sexy naval ship i've ever seen.
>I sexualize warships
Kantai collection was a mistake.
Kantai what?
>he doesn't want to put his dick in various navy ships
Are you even a male?
Japan has been making boat waifu art since before WW2 dude.
cuter than the modern stuff honestly
>Haruna has been best girl since at least 1937
Blessed
FAT. STACKS.
nice 8 inchers
Frick off reddit frog
>the “Reddit frog” poster
Go back homosexual
I would frick a battleship, and you should too.
Iowa best girl.
Fight me, homosexual.
Yeah, they're really missing the point! Ships are so much sexier in the proper, original forms!
Why are imperialist warmongers violating Russia's sphere of influence again?
Because Russia has just proven that it isn't entitled to a sphere of influence.
Russia doesn't have a "sphere of influence." Do you mean "vassals?" Because at the rate their periphery is revolting against Russia's yoke, they won't have any for very much longer.
Good. I can't wait for these two ships to be sunk by multiple anti-ship missiles
The psychos in the pentagon will keep pushing until they have you up against a wall and knife ready to stab you all while saying that you are the threat. We swooped in almost immediately after the USSR fell and began recklessly admitting new NATO members that were former Warsaw pact states or former USSR territory.
You are an idiot. If Russia had a small sphere of influence in the Baltic states (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia) and Ukraine, Europe would still be receiving gas and the world would be a much more peaceful place. Russia is deadly serious about not letting Ukraine become a hub for the US military. Several armies have marched right up through Ukraine and inflicted devastating losses on the Russians. China is also deadly serious about Taiwan not becoming a US military hub either.
>You are an idiot. If Russia had a small sphere of influence in the Baltic states (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia) and Ukraine, Europe would still be receiving gas and the world would be a much more peaceful place.
>more peaceful
No. It. Wouldn't. If you think the RussBlack folk would stop there you're either deluded or propagandized.
Good fences make good neighbors. Major powers will jockey the states between each other for influence. We just destroyed US-Russia and EU-Russia relations for decades (at minimum) over a fricking crooked shitbag country that neither the EU or USA had any tangible stake in. Not big trading partners, no military bases, no key commercial enterprises, no energy, NOTHING! Ukraine has and always was an afterthought. It's a fricking disaster and you're too stupid to realize it. You will repeat the same moronic mistake when China chokes out Taiwan because they are also deadly serious about not seeing the place become another US vassal state to project military power from. Only this time we will all get to marvel at how good the USS Ronald Reagan is as an artificial reef for fish.
What drivel. Russia is in decline due to its own culture and has a GDP smaller than troonyfornia.
If Russia can’t even defeat Ukraine with NATO Cold War scraps they aren’t a power that needs a buffer zone. Nobody wants to be friendly with them because the Russian federation has no future.
I’d like China to go after Taiwan so we can apply sanctions to them too. It’ll be really funny when their troop transports sink from mobile anti ship missiles.
Taiwan is a mountainous natural fortress too. Invading there sounds fricking terrifying.
Come on China, go for it !
We destroyed Russia over this war because they were belligerent towards the West and committed the one major taboo that we've had since the end of WW2... No land wars in Europe. No more brother wars, as your propagandists were keen to say. Your guys sent rapists and murderers in the conquer a European country after years of subversion efforts that caused chaos and ended lives. Your guys are responsible for the deaths of Western civilians in many, many, operations. You ruined the enjoyment of the internet for many people, you turned brother against brother and destroyed families with your psychological operations. I could go on, but ultimately, Russia is just getting what it deserves and it will not stop for a very long time. Congratulations, the world was destroyed for the sake of one manlet's ego. Great.
>Congratulations, the world was destroyed for the sake of one manlet's ego. Great.
No, the world is just fine
Europe is a bit inconvenienced, but will be fine.
Ukraine is in a pit of shit, but will get pulled out by the West, and made to be fine eventually.
Russia, on the other hand, is fricked beyond measure.
Europe and even the entire world will be quite heavily inconvenienced. EU will have not one but two slav shitholes falling apart in their backyard, it's going tot be quite a mess to fix. Hopefully we do it better this time than in the 90s.
>Hopefully we do it better this time than in the 90s.
We just need a plan.
Marshall Plan for Ukraine
Morgenthau Plan for Russia
If Ukraine gets all their clay back there is a lot of gas under some of it. I know a certain union in Europe that could use some gas right about now.
I'd prefer if the US handled russia like Japan. Nuke a couple of cities (Moscow and Petersburg should do fine) and turn it into a peaceful and propsperous democracy.
At least Ukraine got some interesting natural ressource in it's soil. I'm certain European companies will be very interested by that.
This. I don’t care THAT much about Ukraine per say but I do care that Russia brought war to Europe. We’ve been focused on keeping the peace in Europe since 1945. The EU and NATO are the institutions to keep the peace. While I have a problem with how the EU is set up I acknowledge it’s important to keep European stability.
Go make me a dim sum
Donbas and other area of eastern Ukrainian discovered some 12 trillion in gas and oil resources like a decade ago.
Putin didn't have to invade, anon. He also didn't need to oversee his nation's descent into a broken, kleptocratic joke. Stop blaming le ebil HATO for the consequences of Russia's actions.
Russia was going after a half dozen NATO countries after Ukraine. Everybody who could read a map knew it. Propping up Ukraine has kept Russia from starting a direct war with NATO. Considering the risk of nukes, I'll take a conventional proxy war any day.
What mental illness causes some Americans to so violently shill for eastern dystopias. I get that the gay stuff is annoying, but that doesn't make some shithole like china any less shit.
It's not about what China or Russia or any authoritarian state actually is. Those places can be whatever you think they are.
That's why to the right, Russia is a traditionalist bulwark against degenerate behavior and to the left, it's a pro-gay, anti-imperialist utopia. Both groups are imagining Russia as being the opposite of the US, and because they hate the present day America that must make Russia the good side.
maybe not with russia but china actually promotes both views with foreign porpaganda so many of the extremely brain dead left do actually believe china is a pro gay utopia with no homelessness or poverty or [insert widespread problem here]
never underestimate how fricking stupid most people are
>another US vassal state to project military power
Imagine needing a forward operating base to project power. China and Russia should develop a real blue water navy (and no, China's diesel carriers don't count).
We didn't destroy relations, we HATO dogs and troonys destroyed snow nigeria, full stop.
>Russia is deadly serious about not letting Ukraine become a hub for the US military
Not serious enough to actually win a war with an Africa tier country though it seems.
Doesn't matter what lies you yellow monkeys tell about your 'reasonable sphere of influence' (deliberately impoverished slaves). They hate you and want nothing to do with you. And you simply can't stop us taking them under our vastly more prosperous protective wing. You tried in Urkaine and what did it get you? A failing war and a pariah status. Finland and Sweden balkanized against you. Your only "friends" left are the literal scum of the human race. Inbred shrieking ragheads, cannibals from Africa's dark heart, famine-wasted Korean pygmies, street-shitting cow worshipers, and worst of all, the Chinese.
>balkanized against you
I think you mean galvanized my friend
>Russia doesn’t want Ukraine to have a lot of US equipment
>China doesn’t want Taiwan to have a lot of US equipment
Both have failed spectacularly
>Good. I can't wait for these two ships to be sunk by multiple anti-ship missiles
Yes, please please PLEASE give us a reason to get directly involved, I'm fricking begging you
>Good. I can't wait for these two ships to be sunk by multiple anti-ship missiles
One thing this war has proven is the utterly disgraceful performance of missiles in Russian service. Knowing how the USN does CAP and ECW, it's not exactly good odds for Russian success.
Russia's losing the war and they're powerless to stop it. Surf the kali yuga, bro.
>deadly serious
>deadly serious
Why do vatniks talk like reddit gays?
>We swooped in almost immediately after the USSR fell and began recklessly admitting new NATO members that were former Warsaw pact states or former USSR territory.
Yeah, how dare "us" swoop in and...allow these countries to join mutual alliance pacts?! It's an outrage, we should roll tanks into the capitol and proclaim ourselves the new rulers like a proper country would!
Not enough mags
>Several armies have marched right up through Ukraine and inflicted devastating losses on the Russians.
Have the Russians ever considered not being absolutely dogshit at war?
No
That would require toning down the corruption AND making the military powerful enough to stage coups
do it homosexual, launch those anti ship missiles
This post has convinced me that Russia is a threat to the entire world.
Not because of their warmongering and imperialist ambitions, but because they seem to radiate moronation.
>If Russia had a small sphere of influence in the Baltic states (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia) and Ukraine, Europe would still be receiving gas and the world would be a much more peaceful place.
Europe will be even more peaceful once it has ditched Russian gas for good and watched Russia castrate itself by attacking Western weapon armed Ukraine.
>We swooped in almost immediately after the USSR fell and began recklessly admitting new NATO members that were former Warsaw pact states or former USSR territory.
Oh noooo, why would these countries want to join NATO as fast as possible?
>muh spheres of influence
It's not the 1800s anymore, Ivan.
RUSSIA CAN SUCK DEEZ SPHERES
>imperialist warmongers
>sphere of influence
kek those are the same thing
It's not yours if you can't defend it.
How big are Russias spheres? D-cup?
H-cup.
Last I checked they weren't on moscow outskirts?
Sphere of influence isn't an entitlement. No nation is entitled to anything outside of their borders. Everything else is give and take
The US feels entitled to the entire world.
So? I'd frankly rather live in a US empire than a chink, snownig, sandnig, or pajeet empire
No it doesn't. But it has influence over much of the world for one reason or another. Not simply because it feels like it's theirs by right. That's what Russia doesn't seem to get
That's what you get by being the undisputed champion in soft power. Russia has none.
Not our fault that you homosexuals can’t offer a successful alternative to the Western democratic order.
why is russia trying to frick with America's sphere of influence
Because we can you weak pathetic pussies.
>Why are imperialist warmongers violating Russia's sphere of influence again?
Russia has a sphere of influence? You mean a parking spot somewhere in the Kremlin right?
>Russian sphere of influence
>Gdynia, Poland
You have no power here
>Russia's sphere of influence
No such thing anymore
It's not like it's a carrier or anything nothing to worry about just an "amphibious ship" like frogs are and they are very nice. It just goes in water or on land sometimes. I would not be worried even one bit about them laying waste to the filthy vatBlack person dwellings and drowning their screams in a river of dark blood regrettably 🙁
Good Ol Depressesx
Think she was the Wasp-class that was in Battlefield 2 as well
>with bunch of F-35s and AH-1Zs as air support.
Eh...probably only like 6 or 8 F-35s. But the US would already have F-35s in Germany within spitting distance anyway so I guess it doesn't really matter.
>But the US would already have F-35s in Germany within spitting distance anyway so I guess it doesn't really matter.
That's not spitting distance at all dude. That's not even within range unless you want the planes to fly to Moscow and crash land.
Kaliningrad my man, not Moscow.
Well that's closer, but still not what I would consider spitting distance because you gotta consider how much loiter time they'll have on a sortie.
You want the F-35s on standby in the area not to launch from Germany every time.
Berlin is only like 700 kms away by road. The F-35 could do laps at that distance.
>Berlin is only like 700 kms away by road.
The combat radius of the F-35 is 833km. That's not exactly laps.
>The combat radius of the F-35 is 833km
No, it's over 1200 for the A which is what would be in Germany. And 700 by road is like 500 as the bird flies.
And, of course, this is assuming that they're flying out of Berlin for some reason.
Actually I guess it's a 1400 combat radius for a2a missions. Makes sense I guess. 4000 lbs of bombs ain't nothing.
>That's not spitting distance at all
>this is assuming that they're flying out of Berlin
why don't you just shut the frick up and take the L lol
Yes, and? Russia better get used to the fact that Baltic sea is now NATO sea.
A man can dream.
Danzig or war
Why do folded Ospreys look so weird?
Weird way to spell KINO
I'm still wondering they the Air Force even have them and didn't stipulate that shit be removed to cut down on the already large mountain of complexity and difficulty of maintenance in the Osprey. But I guess that's what Valor is for.
Wtf why do muhreens get to have all the fun
There's some Navy guys there too.
Also the US Army has been in Poland for months but they've probably been spending 90% of their time on pallet duty.
>For 70 years now the US army has garrisoned eastern Europe against the threat of Russian invasion and they still haven't followed through
Guys must have the bluest balls ever recorded.
>70 years now the US army has garrisoned eastern Europe
Um, no. No US Army in Eastern Europe prior to 1991.
Take their oil fields
Do it
The cold war she still might be getting hot again
>USS USS
You called?
I'M REVOOOOOLTING
Whoever is using this forced meme still needs to be shot.
What a world if we made these things. I’d imagine girls und panzer would exist in this alternate timeline
Just in case the Kalinskis request assistance.
Let me ask a moronic question, do they keep the aircraft on the deck like that most of the time?
Limited storage space in the hangar?
No. They have elevators to take them below deck
Why are they on the deck in this photo, just to show off what they have? Get some vitaminD?
>Why are they on the deck in this photo, just to show off what they have?
Probably idk. I'm not a sailor. I'm just not dumb enough to think ships ride around with 20+ highly expensive aircraft being exposed to salt water and wind 24/7.
>Thats about two thousand marines with bunch of F-35s and AH-1Zs as air support.
Russia might as well surrender at this point. From what we've seen, that's enough to take Kaliningrad, then St Petersburg, and then move on to burn Moscow to the ground.
Nothing to worry about. Its just a surplus of eggs in the area
Nice reference. Have a (You)
should send a fricking CSG to Europe
just because we can, and putin seething would be funny
There was one in the Aegean parked between Greece and Turkey for months when this shit popped off. Might still even be there.
>a csg
Why not three?
One in the arctic
One in the baltic sea
One in the black sea
homie LHD 2 is the Essex. You got the wrong fricking boat. Kearsarge is LHD 3. OP is moronic
Always like to see an LHD. I was on the LHD-6 Bonhomme Richard for a time, and I think if it fondly. Shame it burned down. I hadn't seen it for years before that happened. I think the last time I had seen it was when it was ported at White Beach in Okinawa.
>the navy's army's navy's air force
Like peeling an onion
I still remember the chinks and vatniks celebrating when it caught on fire because the US lost a carrier and then I saw in some military blog a month or two later that they just commissioned a new one and I chuckled.
The ability to easily replace literally anything we want is an impossible dream for them
Still takes 3 years to build one under ideal conditions
It takes three years when there’s literally no rush to produce them. If you think that can’t be ramped up your fooling yourself. They could hire more shifts and have 3 8 hour shifts every day.
We already have 3 8 hour shifts. Ships just take awhile to build. If there were more welders/fitters/engineers sure it could be done faster but it takes even longer to train someone to do one of those jobs well than it does to build a ship
All of our ship yards work 24 hours a day and seven days a week? I’m not a naval guy but that would surprise me. I’m under the impression they purposely stretch out production to keep people employed.
Most big shipyards run 3 shifts yeah, granted night and evening shifts aren’t as big as day shift but they tend to get more done without all the safety people walking around. Most shipyards sandblast during the night shift as well to not bother day shift employees
the navy is currently suffering from a years long dry dock service backlog on the shipyards
they have to operate 24/7 to even maintain readiness for the fleet, least of all to make more ships
Not all shipyards have the capacity to build ships either. 9/10 yards can barely handle standard maintenance of boats. Only massive yards like Newport News shipbuilding actually have the space and the know-how to build new boats from the keel up
In what world is "building a new shipyard" not a phenominally good investment? I get that they're big and expensive and take years to build and require lots of skilled workers, but the Navy is still gonna exist in 15 or 20 years, and they'll still need places to clean and fix their ships. Not even mentioning civilian merchant traffic.
why aren't people doing this?
We build stuff constantly man, shit takes time and manpower. Our biggest setback right now is just getting fricking employees. 90% of candidates couldn’t tell you what calipers are and of the 10% that can, half of them can’t pass a drug test. Kids don’t want to be blue collar workers anymore
You know, if instead of "automation" we sold it as "augmentation" (The computer reads the calipers FOR you, you just need to check it to make sure the numbers match!) we could make up for the modern "intelligence deficit" in the way that the retail and service industries are.
Then again, I've spent 10 years doing bottom of the barrel wage slaving and now I'm back in school. I didn't go learn how to weld or machine parts. I'm taking history classes and writing jerkoff papers instead. Why? idk.
That stuff exists in this industry as well. Problem is the same for us that it is for every other automated industry. Our workers are so goddamn stupid now they not only don’t know how to do it the old fashioned way. They don’t know what it actually is they are doing or why they are doing it. They just read the numbers, completely lacking an understanding of what goal they are trying to achieve. So when any job comes along that they are unfamiliar with they have no ability to apply their skills or knowledge because they do not understand what it is they are doing
Then the same moron who doesn’t understand his job trains the next bigger moron to do the job. I think you see the dilemma
>They don’t know what it actually is they are doing or why they are doing it. They just read the numbers, completely lacking an understanding of what goal they are trying to achieve.
You best start believing in dystopias, you're in one
this might be true for wagies but for manufacturing there's a bit more education in the people there.
Even Vocational people are going to by educated in the WHY of what they're doing, it's way too easy to frick things up not only from the QC standpoint but from a safety and a "What the frick have you done you've just broken a workstation worth a few-hundred thousand dollars" standpoint.
It is dumb to say "no one knows how to do things the old way or even why they do things" on the level of a fricking boomer working as a mechanic in a shit tier cannery (I know, I know one personally). Yes canneries and factories processing raw resources can hire morons to work on shit. Aircraft and Ship Manufacturers cannot. Incompetence in those places come as a result of higher ups pushing impossible deadlines and brow beating workers into hastened work and handwaved QC, and even then it's really difficult to pass off a non functional boat or plane, with most bullshit coming from failures of planning and design, again on the higher levels.
Dude you have no idea what a shipyard is like. Half the employees are legally moronic. They are almost all temp workers that get paid $9 an hour. All I’m saying is for every 1 guy that knows what he’s doing you have 3 actual mongoloid idiots
>t. Shipyardwelder for 8 years
So how does anything get *done*? Surely at some point there have to be enough frickups for management to get fired for being too incompetent to hire/retain competent workers. Or is it just a very slow collapse into worse-and-worse and we haven't hit that point yet?
Well when you work for the government, your money is basically guaranteed and there’s huge profit margins thanks to the generous taxpayer. Even jobs that go to complete shit and are way over estimated costs still make companies money hand over fist. The work gets done eventually, maybe not in a timely or efficient manner, often not even correctly but it gets done. Tools get better, workers get worse over time. Hopefully robots replace us entirely before we find out how rough this ride can get.
Maybe the solution is to not have 3/4 of a shipyard's workforce be temps making 9 bucks an hour. It's really dumb to complain that the unskilled labor being paid near-minimum wage isn't skilled.
Not that anon but they build large naval ships in Maine, Mississippi, Alabama, and Wisconsin too. They used to in Philadelphia and New York back in the day too but that's over.
someone royally fricked up in the planning
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/05/a-tall-order-why-a-fifth-public-shipyard-might-not-solve-the-navys-problems/
Seems like the nukes are the biggest issue (aside from funding, but we know congress could find that if they wanted to), just don't work on the subs there. Make San Diego and Newport News the designated nuclear repair depots, and build the corvettes and LCSs (or whatever) in Ohio.
I mean I don't have all the info that depnav has, but that seems almost trivial.
from the tone of the other articles related to the defense industrial base, looks like america has deteriorated hard
so much for the MIC
Shipbuilding is insanely expensive but has a very low floor when it comes to labor skills. As such areas with cheap labor are highly competitive, and governments subsidize local efforts to maintain capability.
If there WERE a rush to put out warships as fast as possible you can guarantee our supply chain isn’t going to be as strong as it currently is. We already have trouble sourcing microchips and bulk quantity of good steel as it is so if china decides to stop selling it to us we’re sort of fricked
The hilarious thing is that to the US, the Bonhomme Richard isn't a carrier. It's a transport as far as the USN is concerned, but the Russians and Chinese think it's a fricking capital ship or something.
>So, burgers just sailed USS Kearsage
Oh, it was in Finland a while back. I went to see it. Cute ship.
>displacement 40k
>cute
Is that the right word?
Admittedly A LOT bigger than I expected. Still very cute.
Kearsarge is a badass name for a ship.
Just sounds cool.
This ship is so much more dangerous now that F35Bs are a thing. They were right.
We all know what's coming. Yet still we are in denial
What, the next big one?
Nah.
They don't even have to do shit.
Showing up is enough.
I'm present and accounted for - ready for the next big one. frick it
FRICK, I JUST CAME BACK FROM A TRIP THERE AND I FRICKING MISSED THEM I WILL KILL MYSELF NOW
USS Kearsarge has been on Baltic from early August. Fighters onboard are AV-8B's.
>get a bunch of greedy merchants and religious whackos together
>invent a country out of it that worships selfishness
>industrialize slavery
>at one point theres more slaves than white people
>then the whites ape out at each other and some decide slavery is bad while others start a war to keep it
>grab a bunch of islands in asia
>encourage the world to kill each other while you sit back on an island waiting to scoop up entire countries for pennies on the dollar
>do your colonialism cloak and dagger, unofficially
>let your country get attacked so your people ape out and go to war for it
>decide that your country which worshipped the white race for 300 years should now hate it and make it go extinct
>enslave 3rd worlders in sweatshops to run your actual economy and make shit while the boomer office worker slavedrivers managed it all, and have mexicans do all the actual work in the US
>now trying to make the whole world gay because the US is a dying sack of shit and its the only way the rest of the world won't overtake the USA and throw it in the garbage
US history in one post
>now trying to make the whole world gay because the US is a dying sack of shit
Why does every moron doompost about USA dying when all the wannabe superpowers like Russia, China, EU (if you consider it to be one) have way shittier demographics with no future
US + Superpower
HAHAHHAHHHHHHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA OMG frick
Did you just have a stroke or something
Emberrasing, a little 1kt nuke for both would sink them, carriers are truly a waste of money.
A nuke would sink anything and destroy everything. There's no point in discussing things through that paradigm because there's no win condition
USS Kearsage
USS Gunston Hall
god it's ogrish, how sexy
Witness a textbook geopolitical snookering in REAL TIME! What will Putin do? Presumably China moves on the Krygz/Tajik, and we get to see how chummy they really are with the Taliban. Presumably Turkey helps the Azies and George and Armenia suffer. Will the West play ball there? Will Israel manage to plunge Syria / Lebanon into total chaos? Will Pakistan look North or South? That leaves poor lil' Russia wondering if it gives up Vladi to focus on keeping Kaliningrad and some influence in newly formed North Sea shipping routes, or if it accepts Europe as lost and tries to quietly assume the role of Chinese Vassal State #2 and play for influence with DPRK and the Mongols...
What will putin do? Send his aircraft carriers and airforce, of course
Muhahahahahah
This is literally nothing idk why the schizos are up in arms over something like this. If anyone wanted Kalingrad they could take it within an hour without 2 meme ships.
2,000 Marines with F-35s and Cobra support could literally take all of Donbas in a week.