So ukraine is going to get british UNDERWATER SUICIDE DRONES.
How the frick do you counter this?
How will they use them?
What is the range of these things?
So ukraine is going to get british UNDERWATER SUICIDE DRONES.
How the frick do you counter this?
How will they use them?
What is the range of these things?
>How will they use them?
Blow up all three kilos in Black Sea. If Kursk didn't sink Putins presidency, triple Kursk will
Surely in port they're behind antisub netting?
I'd wager russian anti-sub netting is probably just fishing net
They govt may have paid for sub netting, whats there, who knows, only an attacker will find out
>UNDERWATER SUICIDE DRONES
So a torpedo?
I kid but modern torpedos and mine-pedos have basically been drones for quite a long time, the line is very blurry.
>Surely in port they're behind antisub netting?
Then it's neutralized and can't do shit, including protecting the bridge.
If they do come out to play (and I'm sure they're on patrol) then they suddenly have a fight on their hand instead of a free hand to hunt.
>Destroying the pipeline was a last-ditch gambit to drive a wedge between western Europe and the anglosphere
My pet theory that has no evidence whatsoever is that Germany did it themselves to shut up the parts of their government tempted by appeasement and gas. Easier to settle internal discord and present a united front. Just a Columbus burning the ships after landing thing.
It was a country that hates both Germany and Russia and had every reason to want Nordstream to fail so Baltstream would succeed. A country with extensive experience working on pipes (such as in toilets), a country that in Miltonesque fashion gets kicked around and spit on and finally burns down the building in the end. A country whose saboteurs can never be charged due to their utterly unpronounceable names. It was Poland. It was always Poland.
It's far more plausible that Russia did it to shut up those tempted with appeasement and gas. Given how close the explosions were to an undersea power cable and the Baltic Pipe, it's possible they were also trying to literally weaponize the pipe.
And Russia didn’t want the germs to cave because?
>weld wire cutters to front of drone
>assume (rightly) that russian anti-sub nets don't have functioning integrity sensors
Maybe up the yield and send them after the Crimea bridge supports?
Black see fleet got hard countered again it seems. Also the bridge could be destroyed if possible to detonate this thing near a column or two. Things are getting spicy
>crimean bridge supports
those things are too big and full reinforced concrete
just hit it repeatedly and at a daily interval too
No, they are standing on metal rods that allow current to pass. There's no concrete underwater
>duuhh they build concrete pylons on metal rods
Have you never watched any vids on how bridges are made? It's concrete to the bed of the body of the water. There are metal tubes driven into the bed of the body of water but they are then encased within the concrete structure.
You have zero knowledge about Crimean bridge. Why the frick are you trying to argue, are you moronic?
Huh, that's pretty neat. Presumably they're just as strong as the concrete above, though?
Imagine if you could detonate explosives below the concrete base of the pillar, between the pylons. The same way you'd break a ships keel by detonating a torpedo below the ship.
No. Unless Russians are truely fricking moronic and I wouldn't put it past them.
There should be concrete all the way to the seabed. Not just to take the weight, but also because concrete protects the Steel from corrosion.
just use it against whatever is trying to repair the bridge instead
I like your style anon.
This is what sank the Moskva but they couldn't say it because it was being operated by NATO glowBlack folk.
moskva was struck above the waterline
Moskva was scuttled because of a fire in the engine room.
Moskva is fine
Moskva was sunk by the storm.
the moskva never existed, it's all an elaborate russian psyop
>How will they use them?
crimean bridge supports
The eternal Anglo rules the waves, of course he has nefarious tricks up his sleeve to use against the ancient enemy of the Rus
the storm that sunk the moskva was summoned by the ancient tidesages of skegness
Stop giving away state secrets
>UNDERWATER SUICIDE DRONES
It's a mine-detecting UUV. Nothing explosive on it
Are you really going to believe the public press release?
No, I'm going to believe your moronic bullshit you just made up instead. Goddamn cranial gimp.
They blow up next to mines
why would they need that when they don't have a surface fleet? unless...
Britain was selling them minesweeper boats before the war even started. These drones come with the boats so Ukrainians are being trained on them accordingly
Ukies are getting super secret amphibious transforming HIMARS
>What is the range of these things?
They can reach Russia by river.
What is the tonnage of explosives on that thing? Is it comparable to anti-ship torpedo and can take down russian navy ship or is it just some little shitass explosive?
Zero
The UK has German seafox drones with a 1.5kg shaped-charge for underwater demolitions. This is not Seafox
The UUV pictured is a Remus mine-hunting drone that goes with the Sandown-class mine-hunting boats that the UK is supplying to Ukraine
Why are we assuming the primary objective is destroying a ship?
What's their primary objective then? Float around?
For someone with limited imagination the smoke is probably pouring out of your ears. You did good, now go take a nap.
Don't be an butthole and tell me!
Those seem familiar
The diameter of the pipe is just big enough to march a single column of dwarves all the way to St. petersburg so don't think there was a defensive motive for Putin to blow it up
Why do vatniks keep insisting that Nordstream is german owned when its russian?
Is it to hide the fact that putin wont do anything about the USA destroying their billion dollars worth of infrastructure?
>Why do vatniks keep insisting that Nordstream is german owned when its russian?
Destroying the pipeline was a last-ditch gambit to drive a wedge between western Europe and the anglosphere after attempts to use the pipelines and gas as a bargaining chip failed twice. One part of Nordstream 2 was deliberately not destroyed so they can continue to dangle that 'carrot.' Germany does not appear to have "bought" it and there's been no relief on the pressure on Russia. It seems when it comes to ops more complex than giving money to communist or nazi Black folk to cause trouble and stir up violence, the FSB can't do shit.
>funded by mostly german companies
>backed by german politcians that are pro-russian sellouts
yeah bros, russians basically forced nordstream down germans throat! germany had strong anti russian sentiments and was constantly warning rest of EU member states to stay vigilant, decrease russian influence and keep army as big as bundeswehr.
If it was the US then why the British suicide drones? Is this all under the orders of King Charles to continue the destruction of the Germans?
The US govt' even said they would end nordstream 2. This war has been going on since 2014
Britain doesn't take a shit without the US giving them permission first. Western Europe is essentially a vassal of the US at this point. sometimes, such as Libya, we treat them like a child who has his construction playset hammers and let them pretend that help daddy with his home improvement
>wow you guys did a whole 15% of the airstrikes! whos a big boy?! you are!
>How the frick do you counter this?
With under underwater drones.
if in international waters that is used it is act of war by nato just saying))Langley busy to day
Proof they can even find worthy targets??
Deployable by drown
>drones deploying drones
droneception
These are just getting mine hunting drones to clear the Dniper and similar of mines, right? Underwater sensor detection are a UK specialty after all.
I know you can maybe swap out some internals to add explosives but I don't think that's what they're for.
>How the frick do you counter this?
By keeping your ships in harbor behind nets
Their air force was trained in A10 and they didn't get shit, so don't get your hopes up..
>British
So it's probably shit, then.
have a nice day
Triggered bongoloid.
>SA80 sucked until the Germans fixed it for them
>chally sucks
>Starstreak worked literally once
>bongs fricked up the f-35 ejector seats
>British cars are among the most unreliable in the world
>Prince of Wales broken down hours after leaving port
>economy going down the toilet
>Starstreak worked literally once
That's not even true, we have several videos of them taking stuff down and claims over several more (but no footage, just witness reports).
If I posted every single US failure I'd have a long list too, but I don't, because we know they're exceptions.
Same with bongs.
>SA80 sucked until the Germans fixed it for them
Fixed by British engineers employed by a British owned company
>chally sucks
Nope, though it will once the downgrade is complete
>Starstreak worked literally once
Nope
>bongs fricked up the f-35 ejector seats
Nope
>British cars are among the most unreliable in the world
Only Vauxhall
>Prince of Wales broken down hours after leaving port
Meh shit happens.
>economy going down the toilet
Stronger than Germany’s but yeah it’s about to get fricked up real good
Vauxhall got sold off to GM in like 1928 after WW1 or something like that
Considering the trainwreck of GM, it explains pretty much everything you need to know.
I believe the French own it now.
GM is General Motors, which is American.
PSA owns Vauxhall now, just as they own Opel whose designs Vauxhall rebadges as own cars.
>PSA
Pic rel
I still don't understand why we let foreign state owned entities buy out major industry for short term profit.
In the case of the US ownership they just exploit the frick out of workers, which I guess is fine as long as it's mutually beneficial. But we have to bail out these shitty companies all the time.
As for Chyna, it actually lowkey pisses me off cause they just end up stripping them of IP, create factory clones in China and then shut down the factories in Europe.
No wonder it’s shit.
I think he meant it’s in French control now and that GM owning it shows how long it hasn’t been a British company.
>Fixed by British engineers employed by a British owned company
Bullshit. H&K is not British owned, and the redesign and new production took place in Germany. The Nottingham facility does assembly.
>Nope
Yep. They are made by Martin Baker, a British company in the UK. It was the USAF who discovered the issue.
> H&K is not British owned, and the redesign and new production took place in Germany.
It was then. Also people are allowed to leave the country with these things called passports.
>ejector seats
There’s nothing wrong with them. There was a qc issue on a few. Pretending that this is somehow the result of a design flaw is moronic.
It was made by the Americans my dude.
>counter
Anti-submarine warfare.
>use
Probably to continue to attack the Crimean bridge, or the Black Sea Fleet, or both. Depends on how many they're getting. If you have enough you could even attack ferries, lol.
Goodnight, sweet prince
Neva been done befoe
>Underwater suicide drones!
So, Torpedoes?
Might as well call an AIM 9 sidewinder a Suicide UAV.
Be careful, at this rate we'll be calling a regular bullet a 'chemically propelled, unmanned, kinetic kill vehicle" by 2030
This is the reason why I utterly hate the word ”suicide drone”.
They work in entirely different ways, stop being dumb.
doesnt really matter. cant compete against a nuclear powered nuclear tipped drone/torpedo poseidon
>british UNDERWATER SUICIDE DRONES.
Crimean bridge gets zerg rushed with 100 suicide drone subs
>So ukraine is going to get british UNDERWATER SUICIDE DRONES.
so torpedoes?
>How the frick do you counter this?
Submarine nets, a world war 1 invention. Nets are useful for catching underwater bio-drones, aka "fish" as well.
Black sea fleet bye bye.
Nuke Sevastopol hopefully
you mean the same ones the british used to destroy nord stream to create an ecological disaster?
The only people who benefited from that was Russia.
IT WAS PUTLER! PUTLER BENEFITED BY DESTROYING HIS COUNTRIES ONLY SOURCE OF GDP AND LEVERAGE OVER EUROPE!!!!!!!! AHHHHH IM SO MAD IM GONNA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST
Delusional
NS1 wasn't being used for gas exports anymore anyway, due to eternal ~~*maintenance*~~ issues.
Putin really badly wants Europe to make use of NS2 instead, and guess which pipeline is still in working order.
Yeah and turkstream is next.
Yeah they have form for shenanigans. Look up the MS Estonia
Drones are countered with decoys and jamming. Same as any other torpedo. This is hardly a wonder weapon.
What differentiates these from a modern torpedo? Genuine question, as best I know modern torpedoes can also be operated remotely as well as independently under their own guidance.
You counter it by having people leak secret weapon deployments and send in counter defenses.
blowing up pipe lines ./..