So Russian soldiers are fighting and dying for Putin for literally no compensation?
So Russian soldiers are fighting and dying for Putin for literally no compensation?
So Russian soldiers are fighting and dying for Putin for literally no compensation?
>they do it for free
Clean it up, Yuri
Don't post a tweet, just post a machine translation of whatever the fuck the article says.
That would probably expose the lie, and the hohol can't have that, now can he?
Teachers in Russia haven't been paid in Russia this year yet.
I don't even understand what the strawman is supposed to here. CNN?
Hohol IQ again?
here's the article you mong
i'd tell you to translate it yourself, but I have no doubt you don't need to.
https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/03/09/v-rossii-nachalis-massovie-neviplati-zarplat-byudzhetnikam-a36214
pretty much. They leave the corpses to be claimed by nature in combat zones or if the corpse piles get too big, stack them in warehouses to keep them as MIA for as long as possible. Or if they get away with it do bad propaganda shoots like the infamous cheetos bags
"bitches will birth more" like their demigod and idol Stalin used to say
Cheetos bags is a meme though, but sausage or bag of 1kg of pelmeni is not.
>Cheetos bags is a meme though
No its not.
It's not the "official" compensation but it is "charity" to orphans and widows of war
(was going to post a vk link with a huge compilation of pictures but PrepHole thinks that its spam)
I mean its not war related.
>Gets gifted western products as compensation for losing a loved one in a war against the west
It's so surreal
>Gillette!
>The best a (subhu)man can get!
Love the expression of gratitude on their faces. Russia strong, God is Great.
For the VK link, you could screen shot it and then we could type it in ourselves.
I have to do that with PDFs occasionally.
It's clear to me that they're given money that's supposed to go to the families and instead of writing them a check they pick out a "gift" themselves to give to the families and pocket 97% of it.
yes, anon, that was the point all along.
this is how an end-game cleptocratic 'state' functions.
literally EVERYTHING that happens on the behest of russians is meant to enrich someone on the expense of the many.
This dirty zionist war is creating orphans
The real victims are the women and children
God did not forget them, and He will repay
>Russian life worth less then what a Mcdonalds wagie would earn in less then an hour
ungrateful peasant! a bag of potato chips is a fair price for familys first born child
I worked at McDonald's, a Russian general's yearly pay is less than I made, and that's not a joke.
Post with a space between vk .com
That's sometimes worth a try, but it doesn't always work. It depends no how the filter system is set up. I've had mixed results with that on PrepHole before. I've even had images denied because the text in them (such as a URL) gets flagged by the spam filter.
Other word of caution: don't try too hard to defeat the spam filters. It's a bannable offense to attempt bypassing filters. For simple minor stuff and you maybe try it once a year you're usually cool. But, try the same post five or eight times in the same day looking for a way around and you'll get noticed.
>It's a bannable offense to attempt bypassing filters
that is an old rule that is barely enforced these days, it was mostly because of fucking anontalk, which was the best place to get information the FBI didn't want you to know about cute single 7 year olds in your area.
>was going to post a vk link with a huge compilation of pictures but PrepHole thinks that its spam)
Post screenshot image of the link, always rroks
>"I guess you could say assaulting Bakhmut is dangerously cheesy!"
This is sad, and it's going to be sadder when they just receive a loaf of bread once meat and vegetables start to get more expensive.
What about fur coats though ?
Supposedly Girkins wife gave out fur coats to Russian widows in Donbass, shot a video of the handover, then took them back after lol.
https://www.businessinsider.com/widows-of-russian-soldiers-were-gifted-fur-coats-2023-2
I can fucking buy a bag of dim sims for 8 bucks, that's is all some steppe zigger is worth.
>even the dog is a chink
The funniest is gonna be when the war ends and their mothers come to try to get their corpses. I hope Ukraine pauperizes them to even cross the border.
This photo unironically made me fucking livid when I first saw it.
I was in a quiet expressionless rage for like a day afterward.
Remember how russians claimed these were paid actors and the bombing was an ukrainian false flag? My mom still believes in that story. Unsuprisingly, she gets her news from YouTube and Telegram.
what was that photo? it's deleted from the archive as well
Wounded pregnant women being carried on a stretcher
Compensation is a scam. They will never pay full 12 million rubbles, unless its some relative with connections. Montlly wage is a scam, chmobiks are paid first time if lucky, vulounteers might not be paid at all.
Somewhat reliable is payment for wound, but they might sue you later and court will always side with Ministry of Defense.
Why is it unsustainable if they don't pay?
If you don't pay, state coffers stay full!
Because imports have to be paid for. Military procurement has to be paid for. There's only so many dead soldiers you can hide as MIA before mothers and wives start asking questions. There's only so many months you can go on delaying payment to soldiers who are still waiting on their pay before they say fuck it and mutiny
>There's only so many dead soldiers you can hide as MIA before mothers and wives start asking questions
Before the war started, there was an article guessing what the result would be. They stated (I think citing Milley) that Ukraine would lose 15,000 and Russia would lose 4,000 but Russia would win. They stated even 4,000 would be politically dangerous for Putin because such numbers brought protests during the Afghan War. The issue is that Putin learned from that and immediately shut everything down. There were protests; they were just arrested and punished and then monitored for further issues. So nothing got off the ground. Putin then formed the 'Grieving Widows' foundation thing which instead of having them begging for the war to stop, they instead begged for more to join to avenge those they had lost. The article also stated that Russia losing 300 tanks would be absolutely catastrophic for Russia. We're past 2,000 visually confirmed losses already. Why am I saying this? Because it is proof that Russia has this shit locked down tighter than a gnat's arse. There won't be any complaints. There won't be any protests. The war will continue until Russia wins or Russia can justify using nuclear weapons (which they're already laying the groundwork for on their propaganda shows and channels).
People who have no money to buy food are not good for economy. How many months can teachers go without payment until they run out of their own money and have to beg for food or nothing to pay for electricity and heating?
Again, what are they going to do? As long as the guys with guns, tanks and aircraft who protect Putin and his friends are paid, they're fine. Nobody from Tuva or Kamchatka is going to travel to Moscow in numbers that could scare Putin. Especially if people from St Petersburg or Moscow don't give a shit.
As I said, Russia is preparing for the justification of using nuclear weapons by laying the groundwork that Russia is fighting all of NATO and all Russia can do right now is defend itself, it cannot beat NATO who is the aggressor and attacking Russia. Therefore as (I assume) they get pushed further and further back over the coming years, they can point to this as 'proof' that Russia is in an existential threat because 'NATO won't stop at the borders of Ukraine'. Whether they do anything is another question but the seeds are being sown in their media. It is no longer 'We are Russia, we are strong, we are fighting and beating all of HATO' it is 'We are Russia, we are being attacked, we are only strong enough to hold them back because we are fighting all of HATO'.
>Again, what are they going to do? As long as the guys with guns, tanks and aircraft who protect Putin and his friends are paid, they're fine. Nobody from Tuva or Kamchatka is going to travel to Moscow in numbers that could scare Putin. Especially if people from St Petersburg or Moscow don't give a shit.
The czars were under the exact same delusion
People in Russia never decide anything, it's the elites that do so. So far as Putin can consolidate them, Russia can fight until there are Ukrainian/NATO tanks on Red Square.
Latest chmobik video adresses are more agressive than before, usually they mumbling about "not refusing to carry out commands, but bad boyars not giving weapons and food, Putin help us", but new ones openly threatening higher ranks.
Also, fresh intercepts had funny talks that if "Vova P." do not change the course of war "ours will put hoholis on the red square themselves".
You can't just say that and not share the videos.
There is no subs for this one, either look up on wartranslated or turn on auto russian subs and translation, should be understandable.
As for chmobiks, there are so many videos of them this week, that I dont even want to look for it, but same wartranslated subbed them for sure.
Third vuhledar assault was cancelled a couple of days ago because the new brigade (created merging previous destroyed units) refused to go.
Given this and the regular rapes and beatings by the Chechens. Wonder if they’re reaching their breaking point.
Probably not but one can wonder
The only breaking point a Russian ever reached was buck breaking. They only only how to grovel or lick a boot even cleaner. They will never rebel because they have no mindset for it.
when the Marines complained they were eventually rotated out EXCEPT THE ONES who actually complained who were left to die
This has happened before and it will happen again. Nothing will come out of it. At most the colonel will be forced to make and example out of a few of the younger instigators and then Kuzmich and Mehmet will march forward because being killed is better than whatever the officers or the Chechens can do to them.
Recently 1st (I might confuse numbers) brigade, which is under LNR commanders now coomplainted that they will not be going on mission as meatwave, just like group before them, so the exemplary 3rd brigade, who was proud of being obident and endured everythiong was sent instead of them on suicide mission.
Therefore, complaining do work, as long as there are spare units ready to die instead. Usually they are just beaten into submission though.
"Put us in jail, 5, 7, 10 years, we're ready!" "We'll leave on foot or by taxi! Fight yourself!"
Footage of a conversation between the mobilised of the 1004th regiment from Kaliningrad and their battalion commander. The mobilised talk about their conflicts with local "L/DPR"
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1633518847671123968
He can't even get people to fight for his second great patriotic war, he can't fucking get people to attend his rallies without bribingthem with food. There's no long line of volunteers to make Kalashnikovs or tanks, in fact Russian industry reports huge lack of qualified workers despite 10% of workforce being on unpaid leave. People pretend that if they ignore war than it will go away, Russia will fight until they have local superiority
They had accepted millions of losses before the Tsar fell and millions more under Stalin.
They could get twice as incompetent and still keep this up for 3 years with higher intensity and be fine.
Afghanistan was final nail in the coffin of Soviet Union. How many died then?
according to gorba Chernobyl was the biggest impactor by far. Cost of the clean up killed the rotten command economy for good. Afghanistan ending was just another part of the "budget cuts"
Modern Russia isnt soviet union or the old empire, its Nigeria with snow
Russian empire had bigger population than USA in early 1900
>fuck it and mutiny
>Russians
>mutiny
>There's only so many dead soldiers you can hide as MIA before mothers and wives start asking questions.
They don't matter and never did. The inconvenient ones can be jailed or disappeared. Gulin represents real Russia, not a few old hags picking out Lada trim packages.
Cheetos are a weapon because logistics is a weapon. PrepHole would collapse without Cheetos so don't denigrate their military value. If not for US convoys bringing Cheetos to Murmansk in WWII neckbeards vital to Soviet command , control and morale would have died at their typewriters unable to shitpost.
Cheetos were so historically important Roman legions dedicated a full third of their dirigible fleet to airlifting them to Hadrians Wall. This is established historical fact.
No, you must not. That economy sustained Russia for centuries, substituting serfs for washing machines.
For the spiritual rewards. For example space flight, once reserved to the elites, is now freely available to the masses in return for crewing AFV.
>There's only so many dead soldiers you can hide as MIA before mothers and wives start asking questions.
Then those mothers end up in prison for "defaming the Russian Military Establishment like a filthy, filthy Nazi-sympathizing Imperialist Running Dog Traitor to the Holy God Emperor Tzar Putin"
Something a lot of westerners (and some Russians) are still unaware of, but the late-era USSR was sane and normal compared to what's been happening for the past 2 years and especially since March 2022.
No it fucking wasn't. It was a corrupt shithole, then as now, and if you tried to leave they shot you.
yes and no, in the 80s the USSR was still retarded, still imperialist and still clueless, but on the ground level it was generally too corrupt and dysfunctional to be quite as insane as modern russia currently is.
X to doubt
Anon, they weren't getting that payment anyway. It was all being looted by Putin and being used to sustain his government and pass his policies. Or use to kill people he needs dead to stay in power.
Russians undoubtedly are a subservient people who will tolerate a lot of being walked all over, but when they finally snap and chimp out it tends to be devastating.
they've chiped out like once in their whole history. WW2 does not count.
Twice, 1905 and 1917. Also sorta in 1991.
> Crimean War
> Russo-Japanese War
> World War 1
> Afghanistan
> 1991
5 times
1991 counts because they (Muscovy) decided to give up on their occupation of a bunch of subject peoples.
>state coffers stay full!
Daddy eats first. Putin and his friends still get paid.
This. Russians will never ever rebel unless lead by a new tzar. And the closest thing to that is Navalnyi who is probably dead at this point.
What you need to know is that the elections are run by teachers in Russia. They're to blame for Putin getting 146% in every election ever. Them not getting paid is nothing but karma.
>What you need to know is that the elections are run by teachers in Russia.
Pls explain
State workers, usually teachers organizing polling stations in schools, they are also forge the needed numbers that are headed them from above.
Oh, so pretty much like *our* teacher's unions then.
Elections are held at schools and teachers serve as poll workers. They forge signatures, do ballot dumping, remove unwanted ballots and do all other scummy things needed to steal elections.
Sounds like the US.
'I' is always capitalized, my grammer nazi friend. :^)
In oligarch-run post-commie shitholes the largest employer is the government. How else do you think parties like Fides or Gerb or Pis win elections?
My understanding was that in Russia and Ukraine (at least in the early 2000s, don't know now), business leaders and teachers play a huge role in elections. Yes, fraud is going to occur so it doesn't matter how people vote, but you need to ensure the people do vote to give the air of legitimacy and also so that people question how much fraud was there (was there only say 5 five percent fraud and a large portion like el monke, or is there 55 percent fraud and everyone hates him, Ivan doesn't know). To do this you threaten the jobs and funding of the managers and teachers if they don't get all their people to vote (implication is to vote for what you want but that's not explicit). Manager then says "Ivan, you need to vote, we will all meet at blank to vote and I'll check your ballots to make sure everything is in order" or "Ivan please give me your ballot so i can turn it in"; teachers on the other hand might threaten students with bad grades or revoking financial aid if they don't give them the ballot. So much of Russian society is part of the governments system, including the churches
If they win they get to loot stuff so it evens out. Good incentive, losers get nothing.
I must question the logic of the washing machines for potatoes economy, as it just doesn't sound very sustainable for anything apart from the immediate time frame.
Russians are icapable of thinking beyond the immediate timeframe.
Fake news, various third worlders repedeatly informed me that sanctions are strengthening the Russian economy and it's the collective West that is collapsing economically
Eurasian times told me Russian economy has doubled because of sanctions sirs!
>he's a mobik
>on the bakmhut front
>he does it for free
>this is what he does on a Saturday
We run out of lada money. Too many casualities please understand
Now you get chocolates or doritos if your son or husband dies. we care. Enjoy them
*hads over bag with salami*
>exchange one worthless russian alcoholic for a tasty salami/bags of cheetos
sounds like a deal to me
Imagine if the salami was made from the corpse of their son/grandson.
The black haired girl is cute.
It ends the way it began
Christ, this is unreal. Russia is truly an irredeemable hellhole
Unfortunately for them the next sausage they get will be Chechen
One of those sausages is going to end up in some conscripts ass, everyone knows it. But of course only as a disciplinary action, why would it be any other way?
Guy on left
>I am not up for this
Guy in middle
>I'm gong to die
Guy on right
>Really?
The ones getting a salami and a bag of cheese doodles are the lucky ones.
Most mobik Cargo-200s are just written off as MIA rather than KIA, so their families are never given any compensation.
They did exactly the same thing in ww2. They even punished and ostracised the family members of the "MIA" for being traitors
It's pretty ironic actually. Most of people going to serve in Ukraine do that specifically for money for themselves or their relatives if they die because an average Russian man has a low salary and a fuckton of debts. They may even be well aware that it's unwise to trust the government that is notorious for breaking its own rules and promises, but they still go, either in plain denial of the fact it's a scam or in belief that death is preferable to such life.
Say what you want about MUH REDDIT BRIGADE but at least those dudes signed up to fight without worrying about money. Imagine being some retarded Gopnik who enlisted to pay for his wife’s new Lada and then dying and not getting any compensation
>Imagine what would they do for a few euros now that their husbands are dead and they are trapped in Donetsk People's Republic with no real passport to run away
I need a plane ticket to Russia ASAP
You gonna get press ganged
what would they do for a few euros now that their husbands are dead and they are trapped in Donetsk People's Republic with no real passport to run away
New Bang Bus is wild.
You are already seeing it. More moms and actual models doing porn now because the economy imploded.
Mark my words, once this war is over there will be an explosion of cheapo russian poon tang of all kinds. Widowed russian whores will spread pussy and ass on camera or in brothels across Europe.
Russian women are already slutty and not very bright to begin with, imagine how much moreso after there's no economy to speak of or drunken lowlifes to beat them. When this is over I'm going on a fieldtrip to Eastern Europe to violently hatefuck as many russian cunts as possible.
>when the war is over
ukrainian and russian women have been selling their buttholes to foreigners for decades
>once this war is over there
Pollack here, I've already railed four Ukrainian refugees, ages 19-24. Two of them have husbands fighting back in Ukraine.
I, too, have fucked many of holhol bitches, here in New Jersey oblast.
Anon, there are about 5 million Ukrainians in Poland currently, most of them women and children. It's really not difficult.
>and children
partyvan.png
That sounds like it'd be damaging to your own soul. Don't do it anon
I love hearing stories of russian women getting raped, beaten, exploited, or abused, ESPECIALLY by their own people. The uppity cunts deserve it.
>Visegrad
I wish, but doubt it
>posts about crime with the intention of disgust
>actually supports the crime
way to out yourself orc.
Russians deserve anything bad that happens to them from any source. That doesn't mean Chechens (and other Muslims) also shouldn't be killed.
Those are all professional LegalPorno girls. Middle left is Czech analist Brittany Bardot.
Scream for mercy before they get machine gunned into a mass grave for treason?
>sucking non-Russian dick is treason
Cry about russki-cucks
>Photoshopping the LegalPorno sluts as Donbass widows
LMFAO HAHAHAHAHA they're not even Russian though, they're czech hahahaha
>they're not even Russian though
>top1 place on legalporno is russian with 1600
>czechs are below 600, even though its based in czehia
Czech women can usually afford much better gigs.
The only ones I identified are ones on the lower left and they're czech 🙂
They unironically do it because they enjoy it. Just look up Brittney Bardot (the blonde MILF on the center left in the great photoshop) and you'll understand.
Yeah that's why they're actually bangable
Pretty much what I would expect from the wife of a separatist region guerrilla to honest
That's about a hundred bucks btw.
To be honest I'd tie a string to that nose ring and milk her.
Jesus, I spent more than that when I went out with my mates weekend, and that's going by the official exchange rate
the Z and the stalin photobombing this banbros dot ru buss just completes the picture
Those girls all look inbred
At least the women that sold you out to the Roooshan comisserat get money 🙂
What is the tactical and strategic advantage of blueballing your entire nation?
This is so goofy, this charlatan on the stage seems to be safe from the meat grinder himself.
Whole thing reeks of a deal with the devil.
>As long as you can provide souls (conscripts) for me, you shall live (not be conscripted).
Why is the name projected behind him in English?
I would rather kill myself than be Russian
you're not the first one to have that idea
So the thing about their benefits if they die is that it's split evenly across every single known family member, plus to the deceased soldier in question.
But the money that goes to the deceased soldier, is given back to the state.
How? Do they say that this is what he was in debt to get military gear? Thats what his food did cost?
>Breaking!
>thing that has been happening in Russia since 2007 (and more intensively since April 2022)
>it happened due to local corruption and inefficiency before and was patched over and lead to only local protests, but surely this time will be different
>I am very Smart!
I hate journalists.
There is an actual news story to pursue here, but he makes it sound like cheap propaganda by ignoring half of the facts and all of the background and history of the problem.
>it happened due to local corruption and inefficiency before and was patched over and lead to only local protests, but surely this time will be different
Russia is currently 3 trillion rubles in deficit without paying government workers shit. How do you expect them to patch that over?
Yes, and? Do you think people who were willing to endure lack of payment (sometimes for 4 months at a time) before, during peace and prosperity are going to rebel this time, when they are told there is another "Great Patriotic War" going on?
This isn't a hypothetical, btw - it was already used to shut up the factory workers back in 2022 when they complained about extended shifts and delayed wages.
They don't need to rebel, just die from starvation, increase drug use, crime rates and generally stop being productive members of society while being nuisance for country would be just fine
aha, aha. This would indeed make sense if you only take into account payment of Russian salaries. But, do keep up with me here for a second. Are salaries the only factor in the economy? Do people not need food, clothes, etc. Oh they do? And where will it come from? And when they lack them, how far will they go to get them? Back in 2022 Putin had 1 key argument to quell revolts. It was all gonna get better soon. It was just a bump, a temporary issue. But this great patriotic war? He already promised it'd only be a bump. That they'd swiftly defeat the west and get rich doing it. Well, it's been a year, the west ain't falling, the bump ain't stopping. How much more do you think they will take before they decide their lifes would be better if someone set the Kremlin on fire? Taking into account the amount of "smoking accidents" within Russia far away from any Ukranian range as of late, I'm gonna say some are already there. And by summer after the lines keep being pushed back, we're gonna see some real fireworks.
And don't start with the nuke bullshit. Russia won't nuke. Wanna know why it won't nuke? Because if a single nuke flies, Moscow will cease to fucking exist you dullard. Oligarchs and russians in general have been made well aware that pushing the nuke button will be pushing the suicide button. They won't let Putin do it. They're not that stupid. No amount of propaganda will change basic survival instincts. Most Russians prefere living ruled by a chud gay to dying getting bombed pointlessly for a demented retard's glory days worshiping wankery, it's that simple.
Your nuke theory is right but for the wrong reason.
Russia won't nuke because even China and India won't stand for nuking a country defending itself, where the aggressor is bogged down.
Facts are that Russia has wasted 80% of the planned budget in 2 months since the start of the year. Their "wealth fund" (supposedly for the future generations) is almost empty and will be empty by the middle of the year. Income is rapidly going down, expenses are rapidly going up. Deficit grows in unmanageable manner. Inflation is at it's worst since the start of the war. There is no way out for their economy unless they stop the war. They can't stop the war unless they pull out of Ukraine completely. Their current leadership can't afford that.
That was the point. The problems are massive and structural, but they're not going to lead to a rapid collapse (or else, they would have lead to Putin losing power a decade ago already).
ANON
You don't get it. As long as Putin can make money off the war it's all good. The people are already mostly old, women, or addicted to drugs and alcohol and poor or working for the government. And they don't matter anyway because Putin can just kill them all if needed to.
As long as he's making money his power is fine and he's ok and the war will continue. You keep thinking of Russia like a country when its not a country, it's a Mafia-owned racket. Putin still hasn't outright confiscated the Russians' savings accounts for example or confiscated their valuables for funds.
>As long as Putin can make money off the war it's all good
he has more raw wealth assets then bezos and musk combined. He does absolutely not give a shit about money. If that were the case he would have never fucked around with euros borders but kept the gas flowing while harassing churkastans in central asia and caucasus
That's because the money isn't for him. He needs to share it with every sector of the Russian government and state to stay in power and he still needs money for when that isn't enough. That money is how he stays in power, it's not just going into golden toilets. Every single actual policy implemented is done through paying people off, for example. Every action everyone in his government has done and will do for the last 20 years has a price tag. That takes a lot of money to spend.
If he loses the war or not, his power is still solid as long as he has money. That's my point.
They are getting compensation in the form of authorities leaving their families alone for the time being and not torturing them for refusing to become mobiks. What else could you possibly want? It's paradise.
This sounds like a fun and cool way to get hung from a lamppost by a bunch of armed men.
>hung
It's hanged you disgusting byproduct of public education
>reddit spacing
>i'm illiterate but at least i'm feeling superior to reddit fags
Btw, just to let you know, 'reddit spacing' was a meme created to out newfags who came here in 2016. Because people have 'reddit spaced' since before reddit even existed. It was done, specifically, to out retards like you. Now you know, you can stop outing yourself.
Grammar, retard. Also Nazi.
Why does this website screech about grammer? Pretty gay in my opinion. If you know what they mean don't start finding reasons to bitch. The english language deserves no respect anyway and can be mutated at will. America owns it.
just print more money lol
They cant. White people sanctioned printing industry (99% imported)
They already did during winter, Russian central bank said they are selling foreign currency and buying roubles for them, but banks were those foreign currency were informed Puccia that assets are frozen due to sanctions and they can't sell shit.
So Puccia just printed trillion of roubles while lying about it
Leglock sex with CC
Finally we found someone as pathetic
So Cucknerites are jannies or only the normal Pussian army soldatens?
Knew the second I saw the thumbnail half the thread would be janny jokes. Well done boys.
Man that is so pathetic. Imagine doing it... FOR FREE
If the teachers stop working and school stops, but the janitors keep going (because they don’t mind working for free) then Puccia will wind up having the most gleaming, immaculate schools in the world.
>weapons
I mean I know this entire board is dod bots and like two really sad eurotrash tweens but come on.
They're fighting for the love of country unlike HATO mercenaries
>They're fighting for the love of country unlike HATO mercenaries
You know the western soldiers aren't actually fighting in this conflict, right? The few western foreigners who are fighting in the Ukrainian armed forces are doing so out of principle, and are getting paid peanuts, if anything? I mean, you know this, right? Like, you're lying and saying shit you know isn't true? Cuz the alternative is you're one of the most fucking retarded people whose ever lived, right?
I'm surprised they don't just print the money and pay the wages
For the longest time officials in Russia were not payed at all and expected to make their living of bribes and such.
One of the fun remnants of Mongol rule and the historical cause of the rampant corruption we see even to this day.
What would be a complete outrage in the west is just business as usual and means the average Russian soldier has to sell some more army supplies and steal more shit from the civilians.
Reminds me of a quote from a report made by two guys from LDPR about the state of their forces in 2019. It roughly goes like this: "Officers who don't steal don't hold their position for too long because they don't share with their higher-ups. If you don't steal, there's nothing to share"
To be fair, teachers shouldn't be paid at all.
while it its unlikely to happen because of the immediate catastrophic impact of such event, not giving paying out elderly pensions would quite literally instantly end the war
>The days of zionist politicians are numbered
Anon I have no idea if this is pro-Ukraine or pro-Russia. Both governments are pro-gnomish.
>he's a mobik
>in the donbas region
>on a special military operation
>he does it for free
>he will never have armor plates
>he will never go back to snowgeria
why does the west do their step by step sanctions? Is it just to save more sanctions for later, when russia has done something particularly malevolent? I dont see why the west, or at least nato or the EU or something cant just order a group of qualified people to find every single way we can possibly strangle russia non-militarily and then just everyone does the things
For Sanctions to work at all you need other countries to not buy/sell to Russia so they are able to make demands on the US and others to be onboard. This dealing take way too much time and Russia is able to use other 3rd party places and companies to get what they need.
>With India and China in it for Russia there will be no great strangle of Russian economy
the vast majority of transfer infrastructure is built to move goods to the EU not china or India. Russia lacks the ability to build new infrastructure or drill new wells. it cannot ship oversea because shipping insurance will not cover any Russian flagged vessel.
^This Anon nailed it. No sane shipper operates uninsured and harbors may refuse entrance to uninsured vessels because if they break down, run aground etc the removal cost (which can be impressive) falls on the nation owning the harbor.
"High risk" insurance premiums are not cheap but for the right price:
https://andersonlloydintl.com/high-risk-regions-insurance/
"Our solutions also help businesses invest and operate in highly volatile countries such as Yemen, Sudan, South Sudan, Nigeria, Libya, Iraq, Republic of Congo and Afghanistan with better assurance and confidence."
War logistics is a strategic system vulnerable to a variety of disruptions. Japan was strangled by violent maritime interdiction (mines and submarines should get much more love). Russia threatens Ukraine by violent maritime interdiction but so far that has been modest.
Russia is pressing for recognition of its ersatz insurance as a strategic counter. India and China could afford any losses so they can easily de-facto self-insure which protects them in case of Russian government fail including legal strategem to avoid payment:
https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2022/11/30/696909.htm
Insure the wrong convoy and yer fucked. Have some Battle of Lagos (1693):
https://tontinecoffeehouse.com/2020/01/13/the-convoy-that-sank-londons-insurers/
Because sanctions also hurt the west. They're not delaying sanctions until Russia does something. They're delaying them while the western logistics chains adapt to the next packet to come.
Which btw has another effect. Western logistics move slow but once they move they don't move back, so long term even if the west lifts sanctions, it won't import much from Russia in a very, very long time. They're pretty serious about this. Rerouting your entire supply of certain goods is extremely hard, that's why China/India don't matter, they don't even have the infrastructure needed to import shit from Russia in large enough quantities to matter.
The West is carefully evaluating which sanctions will inflict the least damage. Some Very Schmott Pipples™ are gaming out which to use & when. Literally, 11 dimensional chess; they have to project all the indirect consequences. Some really juicy-looking sanctions could blow the whole thing up & collapse the world economy, so sometimes you have to NOT pull the trigger on some because 4 degrees of separation later you break something else & it can't be fixed in time before you starve the UK or make the French pension fund vanish or some other unintended collateral side-consequence.
There's a coalition of more than 50 countries that all have to be protected, there must be agreement & consensus among all of them. Let's say you break Lichtenstein, for example. Doesn't sound like much at first, but they have deep financial ties to many countries & individuals. Throw Lichtenstein under the bus & you're giving a bloody nose to important allies while at the same time sending a message that you will throw 'inconsequential' allies under the bus. REALLY bad mojo if you're trying to keep an undivided coalition working together. If you throw one guy under the bus, then who's next?
It's also why some sanctions are "universal" for everyone to (supposedly) follow, but others are imposed directly by individual countries that others don't "have" to comply with. They're allowed to not impose those sanctions, or create their own flavor that causes less local damage. It's also why, when someone occasionally "bends" their compliance and supposedly "violates" sanctions, that most everyone ignores such minor violations. There's a pragmatic outlook that so long as most people usually follow most of the sanctions, then the overall effect is achieved while reducing local damage to allies that can't afford to take a hit.
Hungary and Turkey as examples, we tolerate retarded shit from them because the greater effect is achieved despite occasional bad optics.
tl;dr version:
Sanctions are long-term strategic, not sugar-high, short-term tactical. Trying to win the war here rather than flailing around for a pointless battle while the war gets ignored. Which is exactly what vatnikstan is doing, BTW. Bakhmut is one premium example.
Russia is over. That's the important goal. The expense economically and in lives will be at least a magnitude of order greater if pozzniya DOESN'T lose. There is no other option of lesser cost to the entire rest of the world.
I don't understand. Why would they engage in productive activity for another without receiving any compensation?
These are vatnik soldiers, anon.
They are fighting for the side that flies Soviet flags.
former mobik here
compensation is what you can carry back. me and my mates got three washers out of the original invasion and bagloads of crap to sell
3rd Century Rome called. They want their retirement plans back.
I make that in a day. lmfao at ur life
Putin will launch the nukes rather than lose power, he has cancer and doesn't give a shit what happens over the next few years, to him it's all a big game.
Yes. You know what will happen if they don't fight? The state will disappear your family and friends. Then they'll unperson you if they don't want to torture you.
Amerimutts will never understand. Russians fight for something greater than money. They fight so the fsb won't throw their mothers out of a window.
>Russians fight for something greater than money.
kek. they fight for not being shot by penis battalions.
>janniks
Surely no one would work for 0 rubles (converted to 0 USD)
Conversion is a funny thing. Heres a helpful table:
0 rub - 0 usd
100 rub - 0 usd
1000 rub - 0 usd
300,000 rub - 0 usd
1 usd - 800 rub
when every other country runs out of money, they just print more
but for some reason, russian will not do the same. why do believe that?
i wouldn't get my hopes up that anything will change in the near future. it will take at least 5 years of this shit for the average russian to start questioning his government.
like holy fuck these people as committed as they are dumb.
So how do we stop Wagner Group from getting paid? Mercs won't fight without "MUH CASH".
>So how do we stop Wagner Group from getting paid? Mercs won't fight without "MUH CASH".
More sanctions to troll the Russian economy with
Soldiers are weapons and should be paid for success not failure.
Death is failure. All wages, salaries, deployment and special pays should be withheld until Red Army tanks are parked in Trafalgar Square with BoJo hung from a cannon barrel.
They don't need money on the front lines, just manly discipline and penile units for those less dedicated. India should send its own infantry to help the joint cause, shills first as they're wealthy enough to own computers which qualifies them to do the needful.
>penile units
laffed
Stages of mobik compensations
>truck of timber
>bag of pelmeni
>salami
>newspaper
>certificate (participation award)
>Their literally giving out participation tropies.
Eat your heart out boomers
Honestly we should just go to Kaliningrad, hand out weapons, declare a no-fly zone over it, and station a US carrier group to block the Russian Navy from entering it so they can't get reinforcements there (or just mine the Gulf of Finland). Let them overthrow the local government and establish a new Baltic republic, immediately admit it into the EU. The fuck is Russia going to do?
Raise an eyebrow and remove one glove
>establish a new Baltic republic, immediately admit it into the EU
>Kaliningrad
But we don't want them. It's full of r*ssians
right because a country can suddenly, magically keep their economy growing when they are disconnected from the globe almost entirely.
seriously how do you even come up with this shit?
if russia was doing fine they wouldn't intentionally obscure data about their economy. they'd show it proudly to everyone without lying.
>Sanctions are useless meme shit
Then why do Russian leaders keep trying to negotiate an end to sanctions?
>Formally, our husbands are in the Kursk region, but in fact they are already in the "LNR". Military tickets do not mark the arrival in Lugansk.
If anyone wonrdered where will putin get money to pay for corpses. Dead on russia = no 12mil payment.
>chmobsters
>paying
Also, this pic need to be fixed
>modern women
>same text as bottom, but with "our husbands"
>The wives of mobilized from the Kursk region said that their husbands were being sent for assaults under the command of the “LPR”, and demanded that Putin return them home
>According to the women, their husbands from military unit 29303 were in the Belgorod region after training, but on March 3 they were "handed over to the Cossack brigade on the territory of the 'LNR'."
>“The well-coordinated territorial defense units were disbanded for further staffing of assault squads. As it turned out later, more than a thousand mobilized Kursk region territorial defense regiments were transferred to the Luhansk region by verbal agreement, relatives of the conscripts say in the video. - Formally, our husbands are in the Kursk region, but in fact they are already in the "LNR". Military tickets do not mark the arrival in Lugansk. They are offered to sign contracts. All of this is illegal."
>The women referred to the words of Putin, who in his address said that the mobilized would hold the already occupied territories, "and not be assault infantry."
>“We ask you to return our husbands back to the point of territorial defense of the Kursk region,” the women added.
https://files.catbox.moe/i6ppkm.MP4
Westerners really aren't used to this commie shenanigans. They actually thought the pensions weren't getting looted already! LMAO pensions are great for embezzling they're one of the best targets for it! He's 100 percent embezzling the salaries these now "ex-"russian soldiers are supposed to be getting.
>They actually thought the pensions weren't getting looted already
Puting being stealing pension fund since the start of war. First time they "froze" cumulative part of pension fund in 2014 after sanctions and sience then they prolonged it, up until 2025 now.
Simply speaking, every russian pays taxes, part that goes into their personal "cumulative" part, that supposed to be increasing size of pension after retirement above "base" pension is taken away instantly.
In 2017 or so all pension money were sent to some Armata producing factory that went banrupt next year.
There is even wiki page about it.
>Due to the “freeze” for the period from the beginning of 2014 to the end of 2024, the receipt of funds for the formation of Russian pension savings has, in essence, been suspended. Employers continue to pay the previous percentage of contributions to the PFR for their employees, but they no longer accumulate savings in the form of real money, and the funds are spent on paying insurance pensions to citizens who have already become pensioners
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8
>literally no compensation?
a bottle of oil and some onions is not enough for you greedy western pigdogs?
Russia should have recognized a gentle but thorough defeat as such and accepted a normal place within the rules-based international order - like Japan or Germany. I guess it has to get much worse for the vatnigs now before they see reason.
Big deal, the pension funds and wages were already being looted anyway. Putin's got bills to pay and hitmen to hire to throw oligarchs out of windows.
>A resident of the Vladimir region recorded a video message to Putin and Shoigu.
>"My son is mobilized. I've been looking for him for five months already. Wherever I went, to the Vladimir regional military registration and enlistment office, and to the governor Alexander Avdeev. In November and December, I was still calm: there were payments, which means he is in service, although I didn't have connection with my son. I started to worry in January because the payments didn't come."
Three nice videos.
https://t.me/volodymyrzolkin/7445
How fucking sad. Even their own mothers care only about payment with total disregard to the life of their dead children.
No, she understood the payments as a sign that her son was still alive.
Its never related. She just decided to film the video after ran out of money.
You're profoundly autistic.
If she received payments it means he is likely to be alive. When she stopped receiving payments she became worried because it means he was probably KIA and they just haven't disclosed his death.
Stelio!
(dum dum dum dum)
Stelio Kontos!
>born too late to see Tsarist Russia collapse
>born too early to see the Prigozhin-Shoigu-Dugin Techno-Triumvirate collapse
>born just in time to see the USSR and the Russian Federation collapse
How fucking braindead do you have to be to believe this
>he's surprised by Russians working without fair compensation
It's almost as though you know absolutely nothing about Russia at all.
200,000 dead. claim its 17k mia and pocket the money meant for 200,000 Russian widows
Putin is a garden gnome