So, now that the Zelynsky line has been broken by the retreat from Soledar, can we say that the Russians actually fight quite well?

So, now that the Zelynsky line has been broken by the retreat from Soledar, can we say that the Russians actually fight quite well?

I mean everytime they actually commit to a fight, they actually bring it to a grinding victory even if that costs like over 9000 vatniks and a million artillery rounds per square kilometers. On the other hand, all Ukrainian victories so far are not as hard earned and were result of Russian voluntary retreats and mistakes, like leaving 200 men to defend 300km of frontline while the rest got demobilized etc.

I dont support anyone in this war, but I got to say that the Vatniks are a pretty good WWI siege army lmao.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not even good B8. Do better, vmoron.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Many of good fightings indeed, I am of consider volunteer for President Putin's Grand Army. A noble fight against degenerate western globohomo. This is what President Trump would do if the lamestream Media would allow him to live his life.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know you're joking, but it's bizarre that Russia has tried to court the right so hard as if Russians haven't literally been the bad guy good patriotic Americans need to fight for more than 60 years.
      Like, you think I'm gonna forget you're all descended from communist scumbags and rape babies just because you post some pride parades? Hell, anyone with sense knows half that shit started with pinko degenerates in the first place importing bullshit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The American right wing was bought with crime money. Because, that is the essence of the right wing: steal and plunder anything that isn't nailed down. It's the core vatmoron mentality and common cause with the right wing. Why work when you can murder, rape, and loot? It's not like there could be consequences or anything. Blood money buys treason cheap and easy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://accountability.gop/ukraine-quotes/
          Literally only one minority wing of retards you mean.
          But I digress. Everyone likes dead Russians. The left because they're "getting one over on the white man" the right because they're degenerate commie scum. The only reason I could see any gop *not* supporting Ukraine is because they're traditionally fiscally conservative and it's a huge budgetary expense for a country that's never been strictly allied with us.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ukraine was part of the coalition of the willing in iraq, so thats something. Although if people want something more official, they should read the 1991 treaty in exchange for their nukes. Crimea was a big deal because that treaty was broken by russia and now the U.S. is the only one obliging by it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it's a huge budgetary expense for a country
            it's the deal of a lifetime. we've spent a tiny fraction of what we spent on policing iraqistan and have pretty much crippled russia

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Most of the material was already bought and paid for. If it wasn't being used by Ukraine, much of it would have probably just sat in storage until it expired or became obsolete. And we are getting a metric fuckton of legit performance data. The next generation of equipment will be informed by actual combat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly. The west had little problems sustaining 15 years of GWOT at that cost. Of course eventually new equipment will need to be produced large scale which would in turn drive prices up.
                It is highly unlikely that Russia can sustain war until that point is being reached, though. What are they going to do, send T62s against Leo2a4/M1a1 and trade favorably?

                Mate, you're celebrating taking over a a town that you could probably walk trough in 40 minutes with a dog that needs to piss on every lamp post.
                I could run trough Soledar in 10 minutes, with easy pace.
                Mate, what the fuck are you celebrating about? How long did this dog walk take russians to cross?
                How long have you tried to take Soledar?
                Was it done in less that 40 minutes?
                How much slower are russians compared to a pissing dog?

                That is just a small part of the picture. Russia has been unable to perform any offensive on a operational level in more than half a year. How are the going to take substantial ground, with infantry walking very slowly at the enemy and barraging them with heavy artillery?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As opposed to left wingers who burned and looted for 7 months without pause
          Who are you trying to fool moron worshiper?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >dude right wing bad. Fund our wars and die in them bro

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >muh trannies
            There are trannies on both sides, especially on twitter where a shitload of marxists support russia.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you are this assmad at losing bakhmut

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where did I mention bakhmut?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Losing bahkmut? when did that happen?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The last group to lose bakhmut were the soviets, along with the rest of Ukraine in 1991. Ukraine still holds it lol.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How many times are you shills going to conquer and give back the city? You've been claiming this since June

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The narrative switched to soledar you dumbfuck.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >goalposting from bakhmut to trannies
                >goalposting back from trannies to bakhmut

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >please be mad!
                Pathetic.

                >There's also trannies supporting russia
                Why? Do they think life would be better for them there, that the average Russian would respect and tolerate them more than Americans?

                Same reason everybody else support Russia. Self-loathing or money.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >losing bakhmut
                This is why you retards are being made fun of daily on this board, for saying stupid shit like this

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nafo
            There's also trannies supporting russia and they are prevalent in pro russian accounts.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              indeed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >There's also trannies supporting russia
              Why? Do they think life would be better for them there, that the average Russian would respect and tolerate them more than Americans?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, they are mentally ill after all

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because in their point of view, America is the embodiment of imperialism and colonialism and they are bullying countries like russia.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they equate the russian federation with the ussr. also anything against the usa is good in their eyes. primitive realpolitik or something

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they equate the russian federation with the ussr.
                The USSR hated them too though...

                Literal self hatred. Demoralized, just like maga-right retards. Well, I say that. Some maga right tards are probably bought. Most the mindbroken lefties who support Russia are pinkos, anarcho-pinkos just anti American scumbag types.

                >Most the mindbroken lefties who support Russia are pinkos, anarcho-pinkos just anti American scumbag types.
                I will never get this... modern day Russia is the farthest thing from the USSR, they are openly run by kleptocratic billionaires who are like 90% the reason the population is so poor. What does left even mean at that point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Modern russia is using both far right and far left talking points to get people to support them. It doesn't help that russia inherited whatever political power that the soviet union had left after the collapse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Modern russia is using both far right and far left talking points to get people to support them.
                Not unlike the Nazis back during Weimar times, really.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >modern day Russia is the farthest thing from the USSR, It's run in the exact same way the USSR was, by the exact same kind of people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literal self hatred. Demoralized, just like maga-right retards. Well, I say that. Some maga right tards are probably bought. Most the mindbroken lefties who support Russia are pinkos, anarcho-pinkos just anti American scumbag types.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Terminally online trannies as a rule get into terminally online left wing politics and while the most vocal of them are indeed #StandWithUkraine reddit progressives there's going to be some tankies in the mix. 'People' whose political beliefs consist of 'America bad, so anybody who opposes them must be good.'

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sheer contanarinsm with no actual values, same with the people on the "far right". Its why Russia courts both

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Their tankie groups are literally paid; it's their livelihood to listen to whatever obvious bullshit their masters give them and pretend it's the truth

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >imperialism bad give me everything for free!
          Communists are so disgusting. Almost as bad as garden gnomes.
          There HAS to be another way…

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Today I learned Socialism and Communism is right wing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not 1980 anymore, the USSR doesn't exist.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >steal and plunder anything that isn't nailed down
              How will you be able to redistribute the wealth if you don't steal and plunder the wealth first.

              Communism is clearly a Right Wing ideology

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, and it's not coming back judging from the Russoids performance so far.

              >almost like they only exist in your head.
              LMAO man are you in for a bad time then.

              moron, if the Russians had taken anything larger than an intersection there would be 50 threads up "le btfoing the PrepHoleopers." Die of AIDS and alcoholism like a good vatnik.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dude, "m-muh nahtzees!1!" have always been considered right-wing. What rock were you living under?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hey, America went from fags being gross and one of the most used strongest insults in their lexicon to worshiping them and inserting them into everything over night.
        Strange times.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the current American "right" is almost entirely a product of the FSB. It's basically putin's brain child.
        russia isn't "courting" the right, the right are just barking for their masters.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >as if Russians haven't literally been the bad guy good patriotic Americans need to fight for more than 60 years.
        ~~*Russians*~~
        Kys boomer cuckservative.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Those where the soviets tho.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At what point did rightoids forget globohomo was a abriviation of global homogenization and thought of it as nothing other than "hurr durr gays exist and trannies and stuff" and believed that was always the case?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same time lefties forgot that altright simply meant presenting conservatives with a populist message that would ultimately make them more open to white nationalist ideals, not whatever neo-nazi confederate larp the left is fearmongering these days. I still remember astroterfing 4chan back in the day from stormfront, too bad only the lingo stuck and everything else was forgotten.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >whataboutism

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russians actually fight quite well?
    Russia fights so alarmingly well, they can dismantle 80 years of western economic hegemony, using cannibal convicts and soviet junk, they BTFO'd an entire economic order, de-militarizing and de-industrializing the EU in the process

    Russian military advisors will be $$$$$$$ in the years to come.
    NATO and the USA are effectively ass-raped&gaped by this entire fiasco, PAPER_(gay)TIGERS

    Liberal-fascism is finally dead

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literal luled out loud.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nonce

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget to take your meds.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Underrated.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's got the puccian shills in such a frenzy lately? They've been going nuclear these past few days with disinfo, lies and schizoid tier nonsense.
    What horrific losses have they suffered to induce this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Losses aren't the reason. It's increasing western aid packages. They're really really trying to stymie support for Ukraine now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Losses not immediate losses but what is now the predicted losses Russia is going to have IS the reason, because the quantity of manpower losses to achieve advances is so great it's impossible for Putin to achieve the most minimal political objectives of the war. Therefore to occupy all of donesk and luhansk has to be scrubbed from the political narrative in Russia, and the discourse shifted to a new narrative, what that narrative is hasn't been figured out, so the troll farms are just spinning in circles waiting for instruction. Ultimately Putin will have to gamble again (the wager being Russian lives ofc(Russians are too pathetic to say no anyway)) the current 500k crop of mobiks are already penciled in as future losses to hold existing occupied territory. 1million mobiks lost is the next linear bet for Putin, which just means USA provides hundreds more Bradley's. What does Putin bet after that? This is the question at the moment. Which is possibly Putin bets 2million. In which case what do you instruct the troll farms when it's likely they themselves will be sent into the earth in Ukraine, that's a difficult narrative to sell

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Infowars tactic to sow confusion and fear amidst ongoing hot offensive actions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia is beginning to completely collapse. There is no good news anywhere. Economy, invasion, political unrest, demographics ... name it and it's falling apart.

      Tempo temp tempo ... just keep pushing in every way big and small everywhere relentlessly, the avalanche has already started and it's too late for the pebbles to vote. We've reached a catastrophic point of no return, the entire world momentum is in motion and nothing is going to divert it at this point.

      Russia. Is. Over.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Funny thing being, (and I'm not a Ruskie apologist) that you could replace "Russia" in your post with any nation's name and it would still be true and valid

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          crisis has become the predominant form of governance

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >become
            it was clown world all along

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We are at stage 3 of the shill cycle now, they will continue to gain confidence until the next Ukrainian offensive starts

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're panicking I think, are realizing that fag prighozin will form battalions from glavset cocksuckers that aren't pulling their weight - you can't blame them really.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They won the battle of Soledar and will win the Battle of Bakhmut

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gaetz broke the speaker of the house over his knee and is going to be chair of a committee controlling ukraine aid. They have hope.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's going to split the Republican party if the Speaker goes through with it, the Freedom Caucus is the death of the Republican party.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gaetz broke the speaker of the house over his knee and is going to be chair of a committee controlling ukraine aid. They have hope.

          gaetz didnt get that chair (there are like 5 committees that do that anyway) and no, the GOP is not opposed to Ukrainian aid.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they have lost the ability to shitpost about thier wonder weapons like the T90 and even T72. I distinctly remember the endless vatnik shill threads claiming the T72 could stomp a modern abrams, the endless air force comparisons, the endless standing army and deployment comparisons, and even non vatniks acting like the spetnaz and VDV were gods.
      this is the first real conflict russia has had visibly in the eyes of the west in recent memory so the shitposting is now not even close to working and vatniks have nothing left to gloat about.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Quite simply my favorite part of this whole war is the complete destruction of the “mighty Russian Army” myth. I and I’m sure many or most of us always knew they were trash, albeit I didn’t think they were THIS bad, just not a peer to the US in any way. But now even the normies can see it and I’m loving every second.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they have lost the ability to shitpost about thier wonder weapons like the T90 and even T72. I distinctly remember the endless vatnik shill threads claiming the T72 could stomp a modern abrams, the endless air force comparisons, the endless standing army and deployment comparisons, and even non vatniks acting like the spetnaz and VDV were gods.
          this is the first real conflict russia has had visibly in the eyes of the west in recent memory so the shitposting is now not even close to working and vatniks have nothing left to gloat about.

          Remember when Valeriy told senior British officers that the Russian conventional military was the equal of the US, and exceeded it in some areas.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have been since the war started just like the other sides shills. It is war, people lie all the time.
      The point is that the war has been a stalemate since the last ukrainian offensives and essentially nothing has happened. Which is bad for the russian PR effort. They are also running out of time because with every new batch of Ukrainians trained and supplied by NATO their initial material and industrial advantage is eroded. They are out of steam and likely even drafting another 500k conscripts will not help them regain the initiative.
      The next interesting development will be to see the race to build up for the spring offensive and who gains the initiative there. My money is on Ukraine, but we will see.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        let's see:
        >nothing has happened
        ...SO THIS MUST HURT RUSSIA!
        >they are drafting another 500k
        ....WHICH MEANS THEY'RE LOSING(?)
        >Ukraine has aid
        (actual number: not much)

        /k/ope

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this must hurt Russia
          It does, because the bottleneck for supplying Ukraine with western equipment is training. The more Ukrainians are trained on western equipment, the more equipment can be sent. Time is Russia‘s worst enemy, because they cannot win a war of attrition against an enemy with a bigger industrial base, deeper pockets, more training capacity and larger stocks of equipment.

          >they are losing?
          It means that they were not able to achieve their objectives with their initial troops and the first batch of Mobiks. Their biggest advantage was in the opening stages when they had the biggest material and industrial advantage, given that Ukraine was practically stuck on soviet legacy equipment with no production base to replenish losses.
          Russia is increasing the number of troops relative to equipment, because they did not have sufficient troops to begin with and their organization was bad. Now they have burned through a lot of modern equipment while only achieving one early stage operational objective, creating a land bridge between Crimea and Donbas. Basic infantry holds ground, it does not attack because it can’t. Refer to WW1 for details. If Russia is mobilizing 500k soldiers, it CANNOT supply them with enough tanks and IFVs to create offensive formations. It likely cannot even make 50k into offensive formations. Which means they are stuck to where they are right now. Meanwhile Ukraine gets supplied to build mechanized formations, which are offensive in nature. Russia will dig in while Ukraine attacks, it is inevitable. Russia has lost the initiative and has no chances of getting it back operationally.

          >Ukraine has aid
          As stated above, the bottleneck is training.
          It makes zero sense to tell Russia 6-12 months in advance what you are going to send and when. Which is why material support is announced in small batches and on short notice. With small being brigade equivalents now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How big is ukraine, how big is russia. Which can support a larger standing army and higher rates of attrition?
            >infantry cannot attack (/k/ope)
            >ukraine is getting large numbers of AFV's (doubt)
            >Russia has no productive capacity (/k/ope)
            The army able to keep waging war at this intensity for a prolonged period is actually Russia. And it seems extremely doubtful that ukraine is going to be successful pushing them out of the east with an army around 600k in size stationed there

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Unfortunately current loss ratio for russian forces is catastrophic if you consider that russian population is only barely 3 times bigger than ukraine (despite the bigger territory size). If the war continues like this without MAJOR breaking points...then the future is looking dire for Russia.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >without MAJOR breaking points
                Fortunately for us a MAJOR breakthrough is just started so... i guess we're saved then.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We need to change the k/d ratio in our favor...right now we are paying a heavy price for Soledar and Artemovsk, it's unsustainable to hope for the victory if so many troops and equipment are lost for each and every town...unless you are a falseflagging garden gnome that cheers the death of our warriors and slavic blood being spilled..
                The only hope is that the west will finally wake up, stop supplying ukrops and China will stop cucking out and actually give us equipment and artillery ammo and rockets...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >paying a heavy price for Soledar and Artemovs
                Now you just outing yourself as ukrops shill. They (ukrops) are losing equipment and personel quicker than us or at the very leas

                https://i.imgur.com/rcw7Tip.jpg

                >nato landgrab

                t the same rate as us. we have more manpower, artillery, and long range missile.
                >China will stop cucking out
                Nah not even my friend that hate the U.S the most will trust those chink.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you got any evidence that the loss rates are even?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Of course not. They just keep saying that hoping someone on PrepHole is dumb enough to believe it.

                In terms of protracted, static trench warfare like this, the attacking side pretty much ALWAYS suffers disproportionate casualties compared to the defenders. It's a basic rule of warfare.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They (ukrops) are losing equipment and personel quicker than us or at the very least the same rate as us
                Citation needed. Defending is easier than attacking, so considering how long it took to breach defensive lines even in Soledar (literal months), it's logical to assume that the attackers suffered heavier losses. Otherwise, Bakhmut would have been captured months ago.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you seen the amount of pictures and videos of killed ukrainian?? It's literally everywhere on twitter and internet.
                >in b4 muh sauce
                No, I won't spoon feed you tourist.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you seen the amount of pictures and videos of killed Russian?? It's literally everywhere on twitter and Internet.
                >in b4 muh sauce
                No, I won't spoon feed you tourist.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No, I won't spoon feed you tourist.

                That's not how debate works, rajmoron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, and there are way more pictures and videos of dead russians from that front. What's your point? I am not saying ukies are nor suffering massive casualties - they are. The russkies are simply suffering way BIGGER casualties, both due to the nature of being on the offense, amd due to employing literal WW1 human wave tactics.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so the ukranians are taking massive losses on twitter, but how about in the war?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russian rarely take and post pictures and videos of their dead enemy.Why? Because they don't need the sympathy and support of the western civilian to win this war.But then suddenly there is a lot of post about dead ukrainian soldier in bakhmut and it's surrounding area floating around internet. That must mean the AFU took a cathastropic casualties around said area.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russian rarely take and post pictures and videos of their dead enemy.

                They take photos of their dead enemy all the time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dont try to provide evidence against false statements, Russians dont see lying as lying; you're seeing them as a rational actor, but russians (like serbs) are subhumans.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                reddit is only Kyiv online stronghold left, they also lost war on 4ch with just a dozen of survivors from 4chan slaughter taking refugee on PrepHole, the poorest and most retarded board of them all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >us
                Who is "us"?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol. It's about 100k each.

                In industrialized warfare, you can substitute material for men. The marginal rate of substitution varies, but within certain parameters reduce this to a simple formula: throwing money at the problem reduces the amount of people needed. The west can throw substantially more money at the problem, roughly 20 times the amount of Russia. We would need to know the exact substitution rate to know how much manpower advantage this negates, but even if it is 5:1, the countries already are at manpower parity. Add to that that industrial output potential, training capacity and access to resources. Russia CANNOT win a war of attrition. They cannot even replace combat losses in tanks with their factories, how are they supposed to arm 500k mobilized conscripts with anything other than small arms?
                >infantry cannot attack
                It can’t on a operational level. Go study the last 120 years of warfare or join any army in a commissioned capacity, that is one of the first things they will teach you.
                >Ukraine is getting large numbers of AFVs
                The last round of support was a medium brigade worth of stuff. And many more will follow. The US alone can supply multiple mechanized divisions just from storage. Again, the bottleneck is training, not equipment.
                >Russia has no production capacity
                Nobody said that. The point is that Russia does not have enough production capacity to match the west. Which is why they cannot sustain attritional warfare against Ukraine. They will need to substitute men for material which is not a good trade given the lethality of modern material.

                >well aktchully...
                >massive PrepHoleoper post initiates
                It's going to be a 2:1 manpower advantage in favor of russia nimrod. Do you think they don't have artillery?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Overconfident uebki like you are the main reason we fail. have a nice day and let actually smart people sort this corrupted mess out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                please go to the front and get killed by artillery in a bunker like the rest of the livestock. I'm sure Leddit will write you a touching memorial

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They need to get a whole lot better at stopping armored pushes or they'll just end up artillery to Ukraine again

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *end up donating artillery to ukraine again

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And somehow 2 batallions of infantry are going to beat a mechanized combined arms batallion on the offensive? In open terrain? How?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then where is this glorious russian artillery you're speaking of? Manpower can't be the issue when training a few retards to put shells in a gun doesn't take a year even we take in to account they're russians.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They couldn't even deal the dealthblow to Ukraine when they had only a few properly equipped formations padded with what amounts to volksturm and you're telling me it's going to happen now when Russia already bled dry most of it's in-theatre formations including the cream of the crop guard units. How many more months of ww1 tier offensives do you retards need before you accept reality.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Until every Russian is dead, and even then they’ll scream it was a glorious death till the sun implodes

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              In industrialized warfare, you can substitute material for men. The marginal rate of substitution varies, but within certain parameters reduce this to a simple formula: throwing money at the problem reduces the amount of people needed. The west can throw substantially more money at the problem, roughly 20 times the amount of Russia. We would need to know the exact substitution rate to know how much manpower advantage this negates, but even if it is 5:1, the countries already are at manpower parity. Add to that that industrial output potential, training capacity and access to resources. Russia CANNOT win a war of attrition. They cannot even replace combat losses in tanks with their factories, how are they supposed to arm 500k mobilized conscripts with anything other than small arms?
              >infantry cannot attack
              It can’t on a operational level. Go study the last 120 years of warfare or join any army in a commissioned capacity, that is one of the first things they will teach you.
              >Ukraine is getting large numbers of AFVs
              The last round of support was a medium brigade worth of stuff. And many more will follow. The US alone can supply multiple mechanized divisions just from storage. Again, the bottleneck is training, not equipment.
              >Russia has no production capacity
              Nobody said that. The point is that Russia does not have enough production capacity to match the west. Which is why they cannot sustain attritional warfare against Ukraine. They will need to substitute men for material which is not a good trade given the lethality of modern material.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They are also running out of time
        I feel like Kyiv regime is running out of time, the moment democrats lose election in US it's over for them.
        Like US is supposedly paying for wages of all govt employees in Ukraine and even pensions and healthcare. No way republicans will continue paying that and regime will collapse just like Afghan one.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The war in Ukraine is a bargain. Overall, the western alliance has dropped what, roughly 2bln a week? That is GWOT money to cripple one of the two major contenders on the global stage. Any direct confrontation would have resulted in WW3, likely involving nuclear exchange. Meanwhile we get to crush Russia militarily for the cost of policing Tatooine. Nobody is ever going to stop dropping peanuts for that. Don’t forget that most of the military aid is drawn from stockpiles that have long been paid for. Financial aid is given as loans, with the collateral being one of the most productive farming areas in the world and substantial mineral and energy deposits.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dont think you can crash your enemy military by exposing his mistakes so he can fix it and by supplying peanuts worth of vehicles so he can target practice on them

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The bottleneck is training, not material ready to ship. As nobody is going to give Russia a heads up on what we are actually planning to send, you will only get short notice on relatively small batches, like battalion or brigade equivalents in equipment. Offensive operations will likely not resume in the next three to four months. I am certain that there will be more equipment sent in that timeframe.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Russia is not major contender tho, it's just that globohomo expansion came to their borders.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Poor trad chad Russia did nothing wrong and is the victim of evil globohomo trannies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Globomo did nothing wrong except the land grab after ussr defeat, building bases next to the Russian border and constantly staging pro Usa coups since 1950

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nato landgrab

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It even let warsaw pact bootlickers to go their separate way without any fight. Ruskies are good guys in all this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bootlicker
                the leddit fags practically out themselves at this point. Suck daddy glowie's cawk now gay

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you'll never be west, you'll always be one of us

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Too funny! By the way, you're white and own a gun right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm white as snow and own walther ppk 22. I'm also from Croatia so ex-yu, none of your warsaw pact/iron curtain bullshit counts.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bootlicker
                Why you east euros didn't fight soviets if they where so bad?
                Maybe life for your grandparents was not really that bad or you're just all bootlickers. No other option really.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >daddy government, make the other guy fight in the war for meeeeeee

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Many did and the Red Army killed them. Get a clue.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why you east euros didn't fight soviets if they where so bad?
                Oh, but we did.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Warsaw_(1920)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Jastrzębiec

                >Why you east euros didn't fight soviets if they where so bad?
                >Maybe life for your grandparents was not really that bad or you're just all bootlickers. No other option really.
                We fought. In Poland first in Polish-Soviet War in 20-tes and next from '39 - when they in alliance with nazis attacked us. Last ressistance members fought until '60. Antisoviets riots - batched in blood were many. Until soviets collapsed...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whats happening, Nafo-sisters? Afraid of a little healthy competition?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please do fuck off, we know that whatever Russians victories that are forced come at a huge price. But gay constantly pretending like Ukrainians are doing so well are retarded as well, globohomo is willing to fight untill the last Ukrainian and are glad to do so if it means forever breaking the shithole that is Russia.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Keep coping chudsister!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They got Soledar

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not really.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can somebody explain to me why he's so respectful towards the Ukrainians? I remember some time ago he said he liked Zelensky and whenever he speaks of the AFU he speaks of them as a formidable foe. Meanwhile all Russian official sources can't stop belittling the AFU while Zelensky is treated as a clown/puppet of Anglo-Saxons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia got like their first victory in like six months, they are starving, you see, so they flaunt every scrap they can get

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fighting well is doing a lot with a little.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    /k/ikes now exist to cheerlead globohomo and seethe at its enemies so this glowmoron board will never admit it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly PrepHoles eurofag conglomerate has made this board so full of garbage takes and probably 80% of them have never even held a gun. Hence why they'd rather talk about their gnomish war.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        reddit is only Kyiv online stronghold left, they also lost war on 4ch with just a dozen of survivors from 4chan slaughter taking refugee on PrepHole, the poorest and most retarded board of them all.

        Russian rarely take and post pictures and videos of their dead enemy.Why? Because they don't need the sympathy and support of the western civilian to win this war.But then suddenly there is a lot of post about dead ukrainian soldier in bakhmut and it's surrounding area floating around internet. That must mean the AFU took a cathastropic casualties around said area.

        BENIS :DDDD

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll say they fight well when they take Kiev and publicly hang zelensky

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Assmad about Bradley and the lack of progress at bakhmut, I suppose? I'm guessing they really wanted a symbolic win there, to wash out the stains of kharkiv and kherson.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can we say that the Russians actually fight quite well?
    no

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So, now that the Zelynsky line has been broken by the retreat from Soledar, can we say that the Russians actually fight quite well?
    How many threads are you planning to make that start with some form of "now that Soledar and/or Bakhmut has fallen"? Maybe it will fall but why are you so invested in jumping this gun?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Soledar is pretty much done. Russia has the main supply line within target range and have closed in on the city itself. Ukraines pulling out which is the smartest thing they can do. Otherwise their just gonna get dicked on by arty.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        can I see it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why doesn't globohomo just send Blackwater to fight Wagner for money instead of using under-performing Uki peasant?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, oh, do the imperium of mankind post again.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes we fight very well and also we have lots of cute twins to fuck

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >literally an infinitesimal modicum of success after nearly a year of being fucked forwards and backwards across the entire front
    >"wow can we just appreciate that Russians actually fight well"
    OP is clinically retarded

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine has lost Bakhmut despite Zelensky personally visiting the city and even then this board wont admit it.
    Despite full NATO backing Ukraine and by proxy NATO has suffered a heavy defeat.
    Turns out Russia is actually the imperium of man, bringing heavy artillery and waves of infantry to break the enemy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukraine has lost Bakhmut
      Damn, got any photos or videos?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There will be plenty soon enough or are you going to teleport supplies through the Russian lines surrounding the flanks.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There will be plenty soon enough
          Oh, so there aren't any. Thanks, Ivan.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No panic in Soledar then right Paco Jonson? just use HIMARS to deliver supply right over the Russian lines?
            Like i said you will never admit it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >No panic in Soledar then
              I don't know. Outside of a few Telegram posts without any videos or pics, there isn't much credible info on Soledar right now.
              >HIMARS
              Still crying about that shit, I see. Understandable that even the most basic Western military tech would be alien to you.
              Now, go back to taking krokodil or whatever you has-beens do these days.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay Paco Johnson from Kiev Oblast, losing the ability to supply Bakhmut means you haven't lost the city.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >losing the ability to supply Bakhmut
                H32 highway.
                >verification not required

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would they be wanting to supply a town you claim they lost?

                It's okay Paco bros, maybe you can cling to hope that there will be a Ukranian offensive that will drive the Russian out of Soledar and Opytne since it isn't over right.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would they be wanting to supply a town you claim they lost?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Soledar is north of Bakhmut, how will taking a town North of the city stop people from supplying it from the west of the city?

                I know you Russian supporters are stupid but you should at least have enough understanding of basic geography and direction.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And what else have the Russians taken recently i wonder.
                Hmmm big think.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you have nothing, I rest my case

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hmmmmm almost like Russia has had other gains you aren't aware of.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they captured lviv?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Remember there are subhumans here who think Russia captured Bakhmut and Ukraine is the one throwing human waves trying to take it back.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Funny how you can't describe these gains, almost like they only exist in your head. Funny how everyone on PrepHole can provide things, even the biggest Russian copers will provide their cope lines but you're over here playing "I have a secret"

                You have nothing. Deal with it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >almost like they only exist in your head.
                LMAO man are you in for a bad time then.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia proudly brags when they take a town of 10 people
                >Russia took something and didn't tell anyone
                Does not compute

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're all sizzle

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >be tourist
                >burst in
                >refuse to lurk, just spam
                >try to ape board memes without understanding a single one
                >obsess over whatever bullied you out of your previous spamming ground
                >wonder why this keeps happening to you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Calm down Paco i come back here to laugh at you in this thread.
                Last road out of PrepHoleopeville.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My brother in christ they supplied Sevierodonetsk using fucking inflatables while 75% of the Russian artillery arsenal was pummeling down on them. I think they'll be fine in that regard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So they didn't actually lose it yet? Why are you lying then you little gay?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Turns out Russia is actually the imperium of man
      A crumbling hilarious fascist theocratic state that is raging against the dying of the light? A state willing to kill millions just so the state can last a day longer? A state willing to commit any crime - no matter how inhumane - in order to make sure their man-turned-deity doesn't die completely?

      I don't think that is the positive you think it is.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia is actually the imperium of man
        Russia is fiction designed to sell angry looking funkopops to children?

        >muh Orcs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia is actually the imperium of man
      Russia is fiction designed to sell angry looking funkopops to children?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say losing Bakhmut now wouldn’t be that big of a loss. So many vatniks died there and it's not even the main defense line. That's actually way behind the city.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Static defense lines don't really work when Russia has a near limitless amount of Mr Conscriptovich to probe for the weak points.
        What is happening in Bakhmut can happen anywhere, if that is Ukraine's only defensive option they are up shit creek.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    test

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >high ground still commands Bakmut either side
    >Soledar's changed hands a few times
    Nothingburger

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you think the superior 8 years of sas nato training will stop untrained mobiks with mosins from advancing in Soledad?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Given how the "Second Army In The World" is getting bogged down by the Mexico of Europe, I'd say that "NATO training" was a good investment.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia can't even win against the Mexico of Europe. Fucking KEK. This war has been amazing. Watching Russian subhumans getting blown up and Vatnik dreams of muh superpower shatter has been amazing. Now we can watch Russia turn into North Korea 2.0

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia can't even win against the Mexico of Europe.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"But what about muh amerifats!" Screams the subhuman as he soon watches his Russia getting dismantled

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"But what about muh amerifats!" Screams the subhuman as he soon watches his Russia getting dismantled

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            America won the Cold War though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bay of pigs invasion failure was a perfect example of a sitting elected official looking at his intelligence agencies plans and telling them straight up they're retarded and the military wouldn't support them. Cia going ahead anyway thinking he'd change his mind doesn't change that fact. Plus we still have Gitmo and always will lmao.

        If only Putin had the balls to tell his yes men they were stupid and he wouldn't commit the military to a half assed invasion.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, Putin is the retarded intelligence clerk in this case.
          He's the answer to the hypothetical "Assuming Berya took control, how well would he do?"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >retarded intelligence clerk
            No need to be anything more since his opponents are fucking theater actor and his wife.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That was the CIA sent a single battalion of cuban exiles with some ww2 bombers as air support. Not exactly the US sending the full brunt of it's military power. You should have used Vietnam as an example instead.

        >zog PrepHoleope mutt seethe chud globohomo NAFO

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because of the new advanced western power armour Ukrainian heroes managed 0 loses in this battle

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Proofs?

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can we say that the Russians actually fight quite well

    No.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    John smith from texarkana raion in the federative republic of texas oblast here. I for one am deeply concerned of nazikrainian losses in large metropolis of Soledar. it is time zelenskyy regime must come to very large and long table of negotiation with President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and finally understand russian bear is not possible of stopping. see many dead bodies in oinkrainian telegrams and are unable to stop might of mobilization.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love how they don't even brag about taking Bakhmut anymore. It's Soledar now, they keep getting farther.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And they still haven't taken even that. Utterly baffling methodology. Unironically contemptible.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They've always fought well, at least the contract soldiers like the VDV and VMF. Despite losing, they lost only after fending off Ukrainian forces many times their size because the Russians had literally nobody else to send in because Russians always historically shit the bed during the opening of any military campaign. All the retarded propagandaposters will REEE at this post but I've stopped caring what those retards think after the first week of this war, and that was still when Russia looked like they were about to win it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they lost only after fending off Ukrainian forces many times their size because the Russians had literally nobody else to send
      What? They only lost after fending off. Those are mutually exclusive events. Regardless the reason they died was because the relief column which was marked to have arrived to support them in like 48hrs was nowhere near there.

      There is a huge report about this. Russian troops were basically told to go to this place and get there in XX hours and given an old outdated map and told to figure it out. This didn't work. So it had nothing to do with 'not having anybody else to send' but to do with the fact the people they sent weren't anywhere near them when they needed to be.

      As for 'Russians have always historically shit the bed during the opening' why has Russia lost more land than it gained in a shorter period of time? Shouldn't Russia be improving if your claim was correct? Russia has resorted to stealing tanks from India that it was obligated to deliver as India had paid for them.

      Even if Russia magically takes all of Ukraine tomorrow it has been highly embarrassing and Russia is in a state now where they are in a serious problem. The longer they continue, the worse it'll get.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wonder if they will end up in Paris or Berlin this time while you post paragraphs of cope.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is this bait?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You need to ask?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you guys are basically removed from real life at this point

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who is?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            /k/opers

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              coping about what?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              People that unironically use PrepHoleopers are literal raiders.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                /k/ope so asshurt over Armatard he thinks we are all raiders.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who is this "we" you speak of?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Saying "we" insinuates that you're not originally from here along with using "/k/opers". You bringing up armatard out of nowhere makes me think you're actually him.

                More than one person posting PrepHoleope now isn't there dunder head.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I only see one person using it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Either you're trolling or you're actually armatard using this chance to seethe at PrepHole for mocking him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >120 / 17 / 57 / 1

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post Soledar

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So, now that the Zelynsky line has been broken by the retreat from Soledar
                May I see the proof, please?

                Indeed. Do post Soledar, please. It should be easy to do without the cope maps, right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Saying "we" insinuates that you're not originally from here along with using "/k/opers". You bringing up armatard out of nowhere makes me think you're actually him.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nice PrepHoleope

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the front shifts ever so slightly
    >RUSSIAN REDEMPTION! ZELYNSKY LINE BROKEN!
    We need a new word. "Cope" and "hopium" arent punchy enough for what we are seeing.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russian shills having been going crazy for the past week, what the hell is going on?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The 600 casualty retaliation strike announcement was from official sources instead of milblogger telegrams so I'm guessing they're trying to distract from that failure with the trusty ol' firehose of falsehoods

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The newest aid package
      Taboo on supllying western armor broken, the conversation on supplying Leos and Challengers shifting from "if" to "when"
      That and the New Year's consript BBQ
      Oh yeah, and Europeans didn't freeze to death so that cope is long dead
      Vatnik shills are desperate for some sort of a narrative spin

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So, now that the Zelynsky line has been broken by the retreat from Soledar, can we say that the Russians actually fight quite well?
    m8
    they're throwing people into the cauldron
    if you zerg through with a flying shit ton of losses, it's not a battle well fought

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember how yooks retreated from Lyman and retook it 4 months later?

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everybody looking at Soledar but at the same time, Uks are creeping towards Kreminna.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just a friendly reminder that the vast majority of Russia supporters are non-white and to them I would say good morning sir.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Globohomo kyiv hunta supporters are all neoredditors. I can't believe such behavior became normalized on 4ch. Really sad.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good morning sir!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dzien dobry przyaincelu. Szare zachumorne niebo dzisiaj? Fiat 126p or Polonez?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Killing Russians is always a good thing. Even Russians did it more than anyone else so why argue with history?

        They clearly deserve to be slaughtered to the last for defiling PrepHole. It's the only reasonable moderate response

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think serbia should be bombed again

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm Croatian but Serbs are gods for you east euro losers. You'll never understand what spite is and will just lick any new boots that show up in your yard.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but im a moderate western european citizen! I donated money to Aerorozvidka, and I think russians are subhumans. It's a widely shared belief in rich western european countries, just like that serbs should be bombed again.

            I hope russians get more shrapnell today from the VOG-17 grenades I helped support.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >russians are subhumans
              Maybe compared to "old west" like France, Italy and what not. Russians are top slavs tho second only to yugos. Certainly above all the other globohomo east euro slav trash.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                1918–1992

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >go to russia
                >everybody looks like they have fetal alcohol syndrome
                >9000% crime rate
                top slavs XD

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >everybody looks like they have fetal alcohol syndrome
                hey but thats finland

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russians are top slavs
                Mongolised slavs with fetal alcohol syndromen and rampage aids epidemic. I wont name that: top. More: bottom.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >start war
            >start genocide
            >get bombed
            >waaaah witness my spite
            lol stupid bully nation

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah you east euros slavs will never understand, that's why you sucked soviet cock for 50 years without single bullet fired and ended up being forever butthurt.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                didnt east slavs actually collapse the retarded ussr, while the whole west was totally busy doing uhhh..... nothing.
                oh wait, not nothing.
                they mixed their shitholes with millions of morons.
                thats so much better.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon you do realize that most russian citizen support the war right? Now count how many they are.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How many of them are actually white?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good morning sir! The Russians are as white as me, sir!

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    another day, another barrage of gobsmacking stupidity from the same three or four pro-russian mongoloids

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Old picture.
      The shills are really running out of "evidence" after the current soledar fiasco.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I repeat myself - can I see it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you referring to yourself?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mate, you're celebrating taking over a a town that you could probably walk trough in 40 minutes with a dog that needs to piss on every lamp post.
        I could run trough Soledar in 10 minutes, with easy pace.
        Mate, what the fuck are you celebrating about? How long did this dog walk take russians to cross?
        How long have you tried to take Soledar?
        Was it done in less that 40 minutes?
        How much slower are russians compared to a pissing dog?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Come to our side anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't want to cut my penis off though

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're just confused victim anon.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But /chug/ has confirmed chuds and pedos though. I really don't want to cut my penis off, anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the fuck am I looking at

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        take your meds

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're the one swallowing globohomo propaganda pills everyday to the point that you became a shitposting shill and personally involved in all this on emotional level.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            read your own posts

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can't, it would swing me to other side.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            last one was right it's the same count. same shitpie cut in two by the wheel of history.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not a single white person in that video

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If I hadn't wasted my life with map painting sims wouldn't know either.
            we're so fucked kek

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But in all honesty that doesn't really matter. Very narrow specialization and expertise is what makes civilization go forward.

              >russia claims to capture a city
              they haven't done that in a long time, all
              their great victories for months have been obscure villages

              <---------------------- see

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                whitest rassian

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s funny how they went from operational encirclement to capturing towns.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Mandic
    • 2 weeks ago
      Mandic

      >be hohol
      >die in a muddy frozen shithole of a city fighting crazed muslim rapists released from the depths of a siberian prison camp who are all on giga meth and boner pills and have been ordered to commit every warcrime while your women go to new york and get dicked on your dime all while claiming they're the real victims
      >all for a nation run by a garden gnome

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Brown post.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're joking but some of the recent Chechen or whatever videos from frontlines have some unholy isis vibes to it.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know you can hate on globohomo without having to praise a shithole country right?
    I can understand if you're already in a shithole country, but otherwise...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Says the one who fellating ukraine kek. Like a pottery.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah sure, I want Ukraine to win.
        Because I want to see more war footage from the balkanization of Russia.
        What's your reason for rooting whoever it is?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also if Russia collapses there will be another era of really cheap AK ammo in America

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >balkanization of Russia
          Lol, Keep dreaming fagboy.
          >What's your reason for rooting whoever it is?
          Obviously for the destruction of the pozzed west and it's gnomish master. Of course you brainwashed westoid can't understand that, you keep taking the gay pill everyday. Oh and don't forget to Seethe and dilate.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Obviously for the destruction of the pozzed west and it's gnomish master.
            Brownies like you hate West regardless of garden gnomes and pozz.
            All browns must be genocided.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            burger post.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can't you make it even more obvious that you're a 4chanmoron from your post? Just go back.
            I doubt you can even explain how Ukraine defeat will destroy your globohomo, without becoming a conspiracy theorist.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ukraine claimes to capture a city
    >post pictures and videos
    russia claimes to capture a city
    >no pictures or videos only cope and seethe
    so tiresome

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia doesn't need to win media wars.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >russia claims to capture a city
      they haven't done that in a long time, all
      their great victories for months have been obscure villages

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the momentum is still on Ukrain's side but the more I read on /k, the more pro russian I become

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love to see Russians suffer and die. This war has been amazing for NATO. I hope this war goes on for a long time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing worse than vatniks are sadists / dopamine addicted gore video junkies.
      No matter from which country, put them all on an island and instantly vaporize them with 100Mt thermonuc. fireball

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >retreat from Soledar
    not yet?
    looks bad yeah but still contested town this morning

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russians are just terrible winners, that's all. The xoxol threads during the Kharkiv offensive at least had some substance and discussion (as well as actual footage).
      But to be fair to the russians, if the DVD reserves keep up this pace, Soledar's most likely going to be taken this week.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DVD reserves
        B-but PrepHole said that all vdv destroyed during hostomel assault!!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No. PrepHole said that there are no VDV veterans around and the batallions were filled with regular army.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yet they still kick AFU asses so... good for them i guess.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They do average. Soledar push was made by wagner "elite" (whatever that means) didnt know that VDV joined the party later.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >PrepHole said that there are no VDV veterans around and the batallions were filled with regular army
            PrepHole didn't say that, Russian MoD announced refilling VDV and Marines with chmobiks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if for some reason/miracle soledar resists what would be the russian cope this time?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Posting pics of US casualties from the Iraq war, making Afghanistan threads and spamming Shahed memes. The usual thing basically.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it kinda did hence we still geting floded by shit threads and even bigger shiting up the board when ukies achieved something (I.e. kerson libation) so it's safe to say that wagner may have taken critical losses this time and may be forced to pull out

        Twiter shit so take it with a grain of salt
        https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1612763293281619969?t=dTEJ_pGrvkLp47Gkll6s2w&s=19

        https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1612733577372000257?t=OuS5_9LdNRJg6gSnQsWsHg&s=19

        https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1612748789353447424?t=UBtKb68SuNwYnJmEck5-Yw&s=19

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah who knows, fog of war still to dense to know shit. Ukies uploaded a few videos from soledar just a few hours ago.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            TOO dense*

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah sorry, obvious ESL and my autocorrect fucks up a lot of english words. prease understand

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can tell they're globohomo because of motorola radios.
            Friend worked as comms contractor in Syria and he was not allowed to take in any of his motorolas because it's gnomish company, had to throw everything in trash and fly in batch of fresh hyteras.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >globohomo radio
              kek this is new
              Russians are literally using cheap Baofeng thats why so many of their comms are being monitored

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They’ll find anything to insult, fuck socks are a recent point of bitching, but it died quickly

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >kek this is new
                It's not, Motorola radios where not allowed into most arabic countries even back in the day.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia used their best units to take Soledar.
    The penal battalions softened to defenses with some human waves, then the professionals went in and took the town. Veterans of the Syrian campaign, in groups of 8-10 men, they have hundreds of these guys. They're experienced and as well equipped as any Western soldier.
    It's not a surprise the UAF had to retreat, most of their experienced soldiers died in the first month of the war.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok so what happened did the Ukies have another breakthrough?The last time there was this much vatnik cope they got absolutely fucked in north.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. After months of shelling and thousands of dead russian troops pushed two treelines moving general Skeletors vodka cabinet 12 yards closer to Kiev. They will capture bumfucknowhereskoye in roughly two weeks, allowing for a total victory over the nazi communist chud globohomo junta.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        whole globohomo can't defeat the area the size of LA and is actually losing ground to it... let that sink in

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, the greatest victory since the glorious rout of 4th guards tank division, overloading ukrainian logistics with all the equipment left behind. It was all planned after all.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ukraine still loses war despite anons epic reddit tier comeback
            Yfw

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And how exactly is Russia going to win the war?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but Ukraine doesn't look like winning either. Right now, the dream of liberating Donbass and Crimea seems like a fairytale.
                Russia is currently fielding mostly fresh conscripts who don't even have winter gear. AFU should be rolling over them, because if not now, then when?
                Come spring these conscripts will be significantly more acclimatized and battle-hardened, and there's more on the way.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah honorable neutral stance anon, I tip my fedora to you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Come spring these conscripts will be significantly more acclimatized and battle-hardened
                Or their morale will be shot from being raped for weeks on end.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                While Russia is building up, so is Ukraine. Mechanized offensives are 3-4 months in the future due to weather. Ukraine is gradually shifting away from soviet legacy gear while more and more troops are being trained and equipped by NATO.
                Offensives take substantial time to be prepared. Failure to do so will result in debacles like the botched initial russian invasion. Ukraine has taken back a lot of territory in the past 3 months, too. Troops need to be rested, refitted and trained for the next objective. Overdoing it is actually detrimental to the overall campaign.
                The most interesting development will be the next 2-3 months of gear deliveries to Ukraine.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its like a spectator watching the d day asking the same question

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >D-day
                >Massive amounts of American arms and equipment are poured into Europe, insuring the enemy's defeat

                The parallels are quite striking.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Massive amounts
                >Couple of obsolete apcs
                >One patriot battery

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao you fuckers down play everything, eat your words, they memory hole it, it’s the same cycle for months now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ????
                Ok schizo

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek what’s the Russian word for disingenuous?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sound deranged

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                нeиcкpeнний cyкa

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hohol glowmoron reveals himself in anger
                Ladies and gentlemen...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oy vey I’m in your walls

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My man here forgot google translate exists

                Cool, now adress the fact that soledar mining complex will allow russians to gain a massive operational advantage and spells inevitable doom for bachmut

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why when that’s absolutely nonsense?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nonsense
                Anon, I...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wow a mine amazing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not adressing it wont make it go away

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Putin is gnomish
                There that usually shuts you up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Usually? So you do this regularly. Do you get paid? I get endorphines from your seething but you...?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I do it for FREE

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Säs? Gimme saaaauuuuce

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >soledar mining complex will allow russians to gain a massive operational advantage
                It's just salt, bro. It's not a strategy game where controlling an industrial resource automatically gives you more points to buy units or something. It's just salt. You can't mine for T-72s.
                And judging from the state of Russian shills, they hardly lack for salt at the moment.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My man here forgot google translate exists

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sending a medium brigades worth of equipment in one batch
                >couple of outdated APCs
                Huh?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I thought Russia was fighting a Ukraine equipped with the entirety of NATOs arsenal? Don't tell me Russia is that bad that a handful of gibs is enough to break the strongest army in Europe?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Globohomo is so weak after defeats in Syria in Afghanistan that Russia literary sent private company to wage war against it while its military only provides background logistics and support.
                That's the power of globohomo and this is probably its last battle before losing global supremacy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well that was just word salad

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >globohomo
                Why is it called globo when it's clearly not global?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair it's the only parts of the world that matter

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wait a second, you morons were just saying how you had demilitarised all of NATO! Are you now saying that was a lie?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry but how exactly does pushing two treelines equate to gaining a foothold on a continent with hundreds of thousands of rested and well equipped troops in an amphibious operation?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Battle, you already fucked this up last thread brownie, they’re (maybe) winning a BATTLE.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oooo i LOOOVE that (maybe). You know the crushing defeat is happening but you are so invested that you can't admit it. The image of you grinding your teeth as you write is fantastic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Oooo i LOOOVE that (maybe).
                Not him, but you absolutely talk like the most effete of squealing fags.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now adress the point. Can't huh? Whatever helps you cope i guess

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >here's your invasion bro

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Daily reminder that Ukraine still has a net positive in territory gains in the past 30 days kek.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              hey newfag, wojaks don't win wars

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But losing a key stronghold of soledar does win a war. Got it thanks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus it’s not even ironically funny seeing people consider this place important anymore

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How exactly is this key stronghold enabling the russian army to achieve operational break through?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They don't need a breakthrough, they need to outlast Ukraine, which is doable with their massive advantage in potential conscripts.
                Ukraine needs to attack while they still have parity in manpower and western support, neither which will last forever.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That way Russia would have to reduce its war aims to holding a land bridge to Crimea.
                Russia doesn’t have operational initiative anymore. All they can do in the grand scheme of things is dig in and try freezing the conflict. Ukraine keeps building up western supplied mechanized units which are offensive in nature and will inevitably be used in an offensive. The obvious and therefore somewhat unlikely operational plan would be to isolate Crimea by cutting the land bridge, practically undoing all russian territorial gains in the conflict. Status quo ante is hardly anything but total russian failure.
                Reestablishing pre 2014 ukrainian borders is still a stretch, but substantially more likely than Russia achieving any of its war aims.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No no, this is just wrong. Ukraine lost operational initiative. Russia has it hence is attacking and dictating the battle.
                This is really basic stuff

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your main takeaway should be that writing an essay of word salad doesnt make you right

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did i terrify you into one word responses? Just dont write essays jeez

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >some bumfuck town
                >stronghold
                If that's what you call a stronghold then fuck my house and basement must be the goddamn Fuhrerbunker.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ignores gigantic 80m deep mine complex under town which is himars proof
                What did anon mean by this?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sad

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I agree, finest achievement of second army in the world!

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    could you be any more of an obvious newfag?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you so angry?

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It hasn't been broken though? As I understand it the first defensive line didn't even run through Soledar. It runs just past the railway. Soledar is just a defensible stronghold ahead of the lines. The primary defensive line is past the river, on the high ground, and quite frankly I don't see Russia breeching it.

    Though quite frankly Russia getting all excited about breaching secondary and tertiary defensive lines in basically all they fuckin got, because the entire fucking primary defensive line from April hasn't even been touched

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can we say that the Russians actually fight quite well
    No, factual evidence suggests otherwise.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bakhmut proves Russians can win against NATO trained forces in a straight up fight.
    the days of easy meal victories against poorly lead Russians is over.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >336 / 52 / 121 / 3

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >+11 340 / 54 / 121 / 3

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Numbers go up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much this, its gonna be ugly for hohols from now on

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why so obviously reply to yourself?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        watch out the reddit police is here to call everyone shills

        https://i.imgur.com/GIas9pW.jpg

        Calm down Paco i come back here to laugh at you in this thread.
        Last road out of PrepHoleopeville.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stop fucking responding

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NO I MUST

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This thread is going terribly for us
      >ABORT ABORT

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thread is coming to end of its life and I say Kyiv shills lost in this one and Z won.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically Z won

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically Z won

        about that

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