So if this shit landed in New Zealand right now, could we annihilate it?

So if this shit landed in New Zealand right now, could we annihilate it?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nuke whole island

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Assimilates roach
      >walks into the ocean
      Armageddon

      This movie only works because the Antarctic is the most hostile landmass on Earth. Anywhere else and it's a lifeboat for the remaining 10-20 humans left.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        50%-80% of all life is plankton and various other microbiotic life, who gives a shit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This movie only works because the Antarctic is the most hostile landmass on Earth. Anywhere else and it's a lifeboat for the remaining 10-20 humans left
        Ya that's kinda the point, the the stakes are higher than the survival of just a handful of guys

        If it has landed in the ocean or rainforest, game over.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Immediate nuclear annihilation of New Zealand is our only chance.
      God forbid it assimilates oceanic life.

      Despite what movies have told you nukes don't actually destroy every single thing in a giant perfect circle.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're not using enough nukes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they literally do, the sphere of annihilation is just smaller than people realize

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Giant
          >It is giant it's just small!
          autists always trip over scale qualifiers.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like you just need multiple concurrent and consecutive nukes at varying elevations and adjusted for that based on energy output and blast radius then.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Immediate nuclear annihilation of New Zealand is our only chance.
    God forbid it assimilates oceanic life.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >God forbid it assimilates oceanic life.
      very much this

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >In land
    Maybe you have a chance of containing it and destroying it without resorting to extreme measures, however this relies on your team of monster killers not being moronic
    >Coastal
    It's over, nuke the whole continent and pray that the nukes took it out in time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Maybe you have a chance of containing it and destroying it without resorting to extreme measures, however this relies on your team of monster killers not being moronic
      Lol. Do you think any infantry force could really sweep an area so clean that no mouse, no bug, could sneak past them?
      Come on. The Thing was only held back by the fact that if he went too small he'd instantly freeze.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Lol. Do you think any infantry force could really sweep an area so clean that no mouse, no bug, could sneak past them?
        Never said infantry. The answer is still yes. If they're a competent group of soldiers briefed on the dangers of this then yes I believe there could be a chance of sorting it out. Ideally you you wouldn't go for ground troops though because the danger this thing holds is worth the PR of potential civilian casualties (IE firebomb the frick out of wherever it landed).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Ideally you you
          fricking typo goddamn it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Right, so you're just moronic.

          I'm struggling to even come up with a level of inexperience necessary for you to hold this opinion. You've never even been outside, I guess?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            OP never specified anything regarding where it would land or how much it would infect. For all we know it could've landed in the middle of the bumfrick Rangipo desert. And there's a giant frick off spaceship broadcasting its location so it's not gonna be some wild goose chase. Explain to me since you're the gay talking about experience how a brigade of soldiers with thousands of dollars of guns, bombs, vehicles, and a shitload of medical and logistical resources could not deal with that scenario.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Have you even watched The Thing?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            this man has never tried to kill just one SINGLE mouse in his pantry.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're actually moronic.
          Everything on that fricking island is filled with life.
          There are bugs and worms crawling through every inch of soil and all of them could be vectors for spread.
          Unless you literally burn away one or two meters of top soil in the entire affected area you're not getting rid of that fricking thing.
          Large scale napalm bombing could maybe slow it down, but you're not getting rid of it without nukes or preferably fusion bombs.
          You need enough energy to kill every single living thing in the air, on the ground and in the earth.
          In short, we are 99% fricked.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All it takes is one ant or wienerroach to survive and its over. Humanity could not survive The Thing landing anywhere except for the antarctic.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No. The only reason it didn't just win in the movie is that Antarctica is a hellish place.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It came close, anyway. It was just gonna go back to sleep. It's possible some part of it successfully escaped and did just that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It wants to freeze.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    where in NZ? If it hit Fiordland noone would notice until far too late. This country is pretty damn empty; a landmass the size of japan or the UK but with less than a tenth the population almost 1/3 of which resides in a single city.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It will eat the grass and replicate uncontrollably. Things aren't that difficult to detect and destroy, a few stranded humans managed it in Antarctica using ad-hoc methods, however human science and industry probably wouldn't be able to keep up with it in this scenario.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >however human science and industry probably wouldn't be able to keep up with it in this scenario.
      That's like saying my air conditioner probably cant keep up with the heat increase of an atomic bomb.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hope the US has a few fusion bombs in the 100-200 megaton range stored for alien invasion contingencies.
    Not that they would get there in time, but its the only real option to burn the landscape CLEAN.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/

    The Peter Watts retelling of the movie from the alien's POV is always a good read.

    Basically, we're fricked

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No it isn't, it ruins the movie if you try to interpret it that way.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Idk, I think any interpretation is fair. The Thing's motivations are incredibly weird.
        >supposedly extremely intelligent
        >builds a ship to assumedly GTFO Earth
        >retains memories of assimilated hosts
        >should understand how to escape the situation without raising suspicion
        And then
        >tries to assimilate every living thing it comes into contact with, instantly making the group hostile
        >does not attempt to negotiate when found out and instantly goes into boss fight mode

        It always bugged me that it did everything it could to avoid the long game, even though it exclusively benefits from doing so.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The problem is that The Thing is even more paranoid and sociopathic than humans are. It believes that so long as there is one of it, then it is potentially vulnerable; but at the same time if another duplicate is having problems then "lol good luck with that".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And by "one of it", I mean just one copy. It spreads as a way to eliminate threats.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Though there is some level of individuality with separate "bodies". The entire point of the movie is that the humans as a "body" cant trust each other but at the same time have to, but the Thing as a literal body cant trust itself, it will ALWAYS betray the "group" in an emergency.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >It always bugged me that it did everything it could to avoid the long game, even though it exclusively benefits from doing so.
          He took things extremely slow, he was killing men silently in their sleep for half the movie. More time passes than you think.
          He's not an autistic robot, but rather an individual, who makes his calls as best as he can when presented with options. He's also *evil* and pragmatic. He's weighing odds and picking what he thinks are the safest bets with no regard (and at least some level of disdain for) other life forms, but things don't always go his way.

          He'd already been in extended combat with humans (the circumstances of which we're not clear on), he knew they were a threat, he thought he might as well kill them quickly before they could "decide" whether or not he was their enemy after he'd already killed dozens of their neighbors. He has his greatest advantage at the beginning, when they dont know how to fight him or what his powers are, so he works to press that advantage as hard as he can, before they can develop countermeasures.
          He knows, intrinsically, that he cannot be trusted, that he'd kill a human as soon as look at them, and that if they divine this about him, even on a gut instinct level, he's in danger.

          Consider the fact that the *first thing* that someone did when they had even an *inkling* of what he was, was to cut off his escape and start killing off potential hosts, turning the scenario into a death match. He had every reason to suspect that these men, like the previous group, had accurately perceived how big of a danger he was to them. That tiny flying Saucer obviously wasn't meant to get him out of the solar system, it was meant to get him out of Antarctica so he could build a bigger ship, killing as many people as he deemed necessary, and that's at BEST assuming he wouldn't kill the whole planet before he left.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think the bigger issue is that by the time we're at station 31, the Thing *can't* afford to try a long con. Even if the dog-thing had done nothing and laid low, the crew of station 31 are eventually coming into possession of some really inconvenient bits of information.

            >The two surviving Norwegians REALLY wanted to kill that dog for some reason
            >The Norwegian camp is a blasted out warzone with a bizarre mid-assimilation corpse lying around partly burnt up
            >The aforementioned incident occurred after they visited a crashed space craft and took something out of it

            Let Station 31 mull over those facts long enough, and it doesn't matter how low-profile thing-dog trys to be. He's eventually getting torched. Mac wouldn't have been knee jerk demanding the flamethrower in response to hearing something going down in the kennel if he wasn't most of the way to comprehending the jist of what was going on.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >builds a ship to assumedly GTFO Earth
          It wasn't building a spaceship out of a salvaged helicopter wreck. It was just building a craft to get it to the nearest population center where it could then infect more people. It likely was planning to take over all biomass on the planet. All we can say for certain about it is that it has survival instinct, and if everything on the planet becomes a Thing then its survival is ensured, at least on that planet.

          But does it think further ahead than that? Would its best course of action to be to take over the entire planet, or would it be best to leave humans largely untouched so they could continue developing spaceflight and only then unleash its true power, hundreds or thousands of years later after some of itself has gotten aboard a space ship to a new solar system?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why not assimilate humanity and THEN develop spaceflight unhindered?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It might not have that intelligence. You could be right though, maybe it can do both. Maybe it is smarter than humans. It's also possible that its too paranoid to cooperate with itself enough to develop spaceflight and thus needs people.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>does not attempt to negotiate when found out and instantly goes into boss fight mode
          "Why hello dear humans. It seems you have stumbled upon me while I was eating and replacing one of your compatriots and/or dogs. Would you care to discuss the benefits of NOT setting me on fire?"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't the prequel show that the original aliens were Star Trek-like explorers, and the Thing was an Alien-style xenomorph that got onto their ship and killed them all? That it was more instinctive than technically intelligent?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do we really trust the prequel? I put more faith that the PS2 game was a more faithful sequel then the prequel movie was a faithful prequel.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I don't really find the idea of The Thing having a normal society full of scientists and engineers. No matter how you slice it, if you want The Thing to be a space faring race that is capable of manufacturing interstellar rockets it'd need to have a function society and cooperation to build such things. It makes more sense if its a hijacker in my opinion.

              Granted, you can claim it has a society back home that does this kind of thing and I can't dispute it, we know nothing of its origin. I just personally do not like the idea.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Brick
    >But you cant....
    I dont care. It gets the brick.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no, because the thing can copy plant life. If it touched one blade of grass that's the apocalypse.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No. Even a fly or mouse or bird or worm is enough to allow it to survive, hell for all we know it might be able to infect trees. In the dog pen it pisses on several of the dogs its eating in order to speed up assimilation, so with that in mind there's no particular reason it couldn't aerosolize itself and spread infection through the air. For all we know, its was doing that during the movie and the larger forms were just a distraction or sacrificial lamb. It only really requires a single cell to escape and your back to square one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The *fact* that it didn't use these strategies means that it cannot, particularly considering the humans in the film several times bring up the idea, and the thing still doesn't change tactics, we obviously know that the writer thought about it.

      It's ability to exponentially expand notwithstanding, it NEEDS a critical mass to assimilate a host, otherwise it would have gone completely dormant after it had breathed on everyone.

      Maybe under a certain mass the cells don't replicate correctly, they just collapse into cancers and prions after so many replications on their own.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The *fact* that it didn't use these strategies means that it cannot
        We dont really know that. We dont even really know for sure if the blood tests actually worked, could have just been a shitpost by the thing to give them false hope. We assume that each component has its own self preservation, but it could just be that they have a collective consciousness and it doesn't mind giving up the windows chess piece in exchange for allow all its other infected pawns to operate without scrutiny.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          These are all unreasonable explanations for things with more reasonable explanations.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The thing has gone through this rigmarole potentially millions of times before on at least one previous planet, it has had blood tests before and its not unreasonable to think it would game the results to make easier victims of those remaining. Its not wrong to take the film at face value, but the fundamental point is we dont know shit about the creature and even the things we think we are known could just be it fricking with the survivors and the audience.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hmmm, less of a monster than Arndern tho

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the Thing
    Beyond Antarctica the Thing would be a complete biosphere destroyer, as it's ability to infect plants and lower lifeforms (insects and bacteria) are unknown. In reality any lifeform like the Thing would be extremely vulnerable to radiation due to it's densely packed genetic structure.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You don't. It's intelligent. It's going to walk into an airport bathroom late at night and turn it into an infiltrator factory.
    3 hours later you'll have 3000 infestations spreading across 3 continents.
    The only way to prevent this is to restructure the entire culture and way of life on this planet to detecting its infiltrators.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    New Zealand should just accept the new territorial realities. Biden wants to launder money and spread LGBT through the corrupt neo-nazi Luxon regime instead of spending it securing our border. The New NAZIealanders brought this on themselves. The Thing had no choice to invade after the CIA color revolution to get israelitexon in power. Why waste more lives fighting against The Thing??? Just surrender. Biden is lining his own pockets down to the last Kiwi.

    • 1 month ago
      Mansslic

      https://web.archive.org/web/20100803050941/https://www.incogman.net/07/2010/the-ferengi-fershems-chosenoids/

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Peter Watts story does a good job getting into the creature's motivations

    >I was so much more, before the crash. I was an explorer, an ambassador, a missionary. I spread across the cosmos, met countless worlds, took communion: the fit reshaped the unfit and the whole universe bootstrapped upwards in joyful, infinitesimal increments. I was a soldier, at war with entropy itself. I was the very hand by which Creation perfects itself.

    It genuinely doesn't understand what it's encountering, when it emerges first it tries to absorb the norwegians because that's how they talk

    >I remember my reawakening, too: dull stirrings of sensation in real time, the first embers of cognition, the slow blooming warmth of awareness as body and soul embraced after their long sleep. I remember the biped offshoots surrounding me, the strange chittering sounds they made, the odd uniformity of their body plans. How ill-adapted they looked! How inefficient their morphology! Even disabled, I could see so many things to fix. So I reached out. I took communion. I tasted the flesh of the world—

    >—and the world attacked me. It _attacked_ me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The Peter Watts story does a good job getting into the creature's motivations
      Shitty fanfiction motivations that would ruin the movie, yeah.

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