So if I wanted to have an aesthetic as fuck stake launcher for killing vampires, could I load a shell with a stake, and just maybe switch out the gunp...

So if I wanted to have an aesthetic as frick stake launcher for killing vampires, could I load a shell with a stake, and just maybe switch out the gunpowder for slower burning one, or maybe black powder, and not end up blowing up the whole thing? Could you actually fire something as large as a wooden stake from a shotgun?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds good

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weight matters more than size. Keep your stake around 1oz and it should be fine. Aerodynamics will frick you though - it will tumble.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sure you could. That's exactly how some of the earliest firearms worked. You would have to be careful regarding the powder though. A realworld example is the Greener GP. This is normally a single-shot 12ga but it was also used to make harpoon guns like the one in the movie Jaws. However that harpoon gun version uses special .38 cal blanks to fire the harpoon not a full-size 12ga. is correct that weight is what matters more than size for the projectile. A standard 12ga load is 1 to 1 1/4oz of shot so if you could get your stake that light you could use a standard powder charge for it. You can go heavier of course, there are commerical 12ga loads over 2oz, you would have to use less and slower powder to keep the pressures safe. Recoil is going to be nasty as the weight goes up even if the velocity isn't very high though, that's going to be your main limiting factor. Momentum is a b***h.
      For example, suppose you have an 8lb shotgun and you're shooting a half-pound wooden spear at a mere 500 fps. That's a whopping 140 ft-lb of recoil, more than a .577 Nitro Express elephant gun. If you dropped the weight of the projectile to 1/4 lb then the recoil would be about 40 ft-lb instead, which is still pretty damn high (double a standard 12ga load, about the same as a .458 Win Mag rifle)

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just did a bit of rough math and I think it's feasible. I calculated the weight of a piece of oak wood 8 inches long and .729 inches diameter and it came out to 675 grains, which is about an ounce and a half. Add another ounce for the metal tip and you're at the same mass as a heavy turkey load.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Aerodynamics will frick you though
      Not necessarily. The thing in OP's pic should fly straight for the same reason that a Foster slug flies straight, it's drag-stabilized because its center of mass is in front of its center of drag. Or in other words, the nose is heavier than the tail so it always tries to fly nose-first. Same principle as a badminton shuttlewiener.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Badminton Shuttlewieners fly straight because the wide tail creates drag. They make shotgun slugs like that, with a wide solid cone shaped ass.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Badminton Shuttlewieners fly straight because the wide tail creates drag
          Yes, that's what he just said.

          >They make shotgun slugs like that, with a wide solid cone shaped ass.
          That's called a "diabolo" style slug, and yes it works the same way. The center of drag is behind the center of mass.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            A while back they realized that they don't actually need the cone-tail end to be hollow or light, and have been making them solid.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        But the stake is straight, it doesn't have a tail like a badmitton thing.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't matter if it's straight or "tail shaped". All that matters is the nose is heavier than the rear. Take the classic "foster slug" as an example.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can tail stabilize nose heavy projectiles. See mortars and rpgs.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            So why do slugs and shuttlewieners have the cone tail at all

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why not build a potato cannon tier device that could launch said wooden steaks at vampires?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because side-by-side shotguns are cooler.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    just buy a crossbow and be done with it

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No clue, but since I first used one, the idea of a scaled up ramset that used 12 gauge blanks and threw sections of rebar rather than nails has sounded like it would be fun to mess around with.

  5. 11 months ago
    KM

    >and just maybe switch out the gunpowder for slower burning one, or maybe black powder, and not end up blowing up the whole thing?
    Historically they often put metal plates on the end of the gun-bolts, you can kinda see one here if you know to look for it, though I'm not guaranteeing this alone against any and all modern gunpowders. Also worth noting are the sheet metal vanes instead of the wooden ones usually seen on crossbow bolts, this too is likely to survive the launch. Now these vanes will prevent you from having the entire stake stuffed down your barrel, instead only the part behind them is inserted. So without some degree of re-designing there you're not going to get much use out of a long barrel or the more slow-burning powders here. If you're good at shaping metal I guess you could also steal the folding fin design of the good old RPG-7.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Could you actually fire something as large as a wooden stake from a shotgun?
    I've shot all sorts of shit out of shotguns.
    >rebar
    >dimes
    >.223 projectiles
    >.50bmg API
    >wax slugs
    >toothpicks
    >batteries
    If it fits it ships. Just don't make the payload heavier than whatever your load data says the powder charge is for.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >aesthetic as frick

    just say cool.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make little wooden sub-caliber stakes and then design a 3d printed sabot for them

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