So, how fucked is he??

My friend who I try to no longer associate with is quite the moron to put it lightly.. Seems he tried to purchase a pistol this past week and got denied. idk why his background check was denied. However, as a long time gun owner myself it seems this idiot might get a visit from some feds soon.

All I know is he at one time was able to own and purchase guns in this state, but for some reason when he went to purchase one this time there was a 3 day hold(unusual in my state) then his background check came back as denied. Just curious if any of you guys have an opinion into this matter.

upon further digging it seems that he was arrested sometime last year for fighting with his brother and a 6mo. restraining order was in place. charges were all dropped however I do not know much more than that.

So, how fricked is he?? scale of 1-10...
also AMA about his situation and ill try to provide answers 🙂

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if he isn't a felon he isn't gonna be contacted. Odds are what happened is he either does have a domestic violence charge which is a DQ even if it's a misdemeanor or the restraining order never expired legally which he has to go fix
    t. FFL

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >So, how fricked is he??
    Very since he's a moron who didn't read the terms of his restraining order the judge had him sign.

    Don't associate with this guy. It's pretty hard to get a restraining order and if his own brother went through the hassle after a fight there's major aggressive unstable dickhead signs showing.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much all the reasons I don't associate with this idiot anymore. I only communicate with him through the occasional Facebook dm. I have him on discord and steam, but I don't play many games anymore.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus. A wheeled buck breaker of that calibre should only be used at the most fiery BLM protest.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >it's pretty hard to get a restraining order

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    sounds like absolutely the fellow who ought not be allowed to carry

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you don’t block this moron and immediately cease contact you are white trash as well

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If the 6 month restraining order was filed last year, it's definitely expired now that it's July (unless there was a paperwork frickup or something).
    The only other thing I can think of is that he may have gotten charged with domestic violence or something and is on trial which prevents you from getting a gun until it's over.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yeah he could also be indicted or pending trial for something else. Giving the degree of shithead you need to be to get a restraining order from your brother this wouldn't surprise me

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In my state, if you are denied, the agency that performs the background check will notify you of what caused the denial, and will provide any case numbers and what to do once the case is cleared/sealed by the courts, and who to send the letter from the court admin to.

    Under no circumstances do you ever send the case file to any agency, you must send the letter from the office administrator that grants you relief from the active case and you will get your rights again

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like what's most likely going to happen in this case.

      While it's illegal to fail to pass your background check on these grounds, the police have a million better things to do. If he does absolutely nothing from here on, he's probably fine.
      If he raises a stink about this, however, and because he's a fricktarded asshat he probably will, they will use this, among other reasons, to throw his ass in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
      Frankly, you shouldn't associate with guys like that. I used to be "friends" with one, too. I saw the writing on the wall - dude was disconnected from reality. Would blame literally everyone else except himself for problems that were entirely his fault.

      Yeepp seems like a very similar outlook we have, I've seen his behavior as a problem for quite some time now. I stay physically distanced, but still have him added on facebook just to witness the stupidity now and again.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    While it's illegal to fail to pass your background check on these grounds, the police have a million better things to do. If he does absolutely nothing from here on, he's probably fine.
    If he raises a stink about this, however, and because he's a fricktarded asshat he probably will, they will use this, among other reasons, to throw his ass in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
    Frankly, you shouldn't associate with guys like that. I used to be "friends" with one, too. I saw the writing on the wall - dude was disconnected from reality. Would blame literally everyone else except himself for problems that were entirely his fault.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah i'm in a similar situation. My best friend that I"ve known for a decade or more decided to become a mentally unstable piece of shit out of nowhere so now i"m left as a hermit with no friends to consistently hang out with.

      He lived with his grandparents after getting out of the Army and treated them like dogshit, it made me so fricking mad to see him yell at his grandpa about XYZ every day. I stopped respecting him because of that but I still hung out with him because our history and I thought he would change; and the he went full crazy-mode and decided that he was a woman now and wanted to be referred to as a lady. This guy has a child with his ex-fiance, that little girl is 7-8 now and will never get to know her father because he wants to be a crazy troon. I couldn't talk to him after that. I'd rather be a hermit than put up with crazy bullshit like that.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dam bro, I'm sorry to hear your friend went off the deep end like that, hope it doesn't twist you up for too long..

        This guy has been absent minded for the longest time. never really learned how to adult properly. now all that shit is starting to catch up with him and i just get to enjoy the show

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        lol thats what army zogbot training does to people, sorry bro

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The validation of that shit is through media.
          Media is formed by academia.
          Academia pushes for this shit because it has been infiltrated by marxists.
          Guess who pushed for marxism?
          Hint - is not "ZOG".

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Is his name Alex? Now Sandy?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Has a child
        God i hate pieces of shit that don't pull their shit together in situations like this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      if he isn't a felon he isn't gonna be contacted. Odds are what happened is he either does have a domestic violence charge which is a DQ even if it's a misdemeanor or the restraining order never expired legally which he has to go fix
      t. FFL

      wtf why is it illegal to fail a background check? if you get denied you get denied, end of problem

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        if you are a prohibited person and you own other guns that never were turned in then its not the end of problem. OP said he had a restraining order and owns other guns. so did he remove ownership of those other guns per the legal requirements of the restraining order?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          why does it matter, that’s not a question they ask on a background check no?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            well it matters because its part of the national political debate right now and the israelites of congress just approved 14 billon dollars of funding to the FBI for literally this exact scenario so people will get a visit when they have been denied on a background check to make sure they dont also have other guns in possession

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              sounds like a violation of the 4th amendment

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                and yet you didnt write your traitorous congress reps or even know it happened until i told you because you are so politically uninvolved

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                imagine caring about things, gay

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                frick ya mudda
                that's what I care about, son

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >complains about violations of rights
                >then tries to pretend he doesnt care about anything
                kys homosexual

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                the constitution hasn’t mattered for a while now

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The pistol he used to own had been sold to a pawn shop long before him and his brothers fighting got him arrested.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's a crime to lie on the form 4473, but if it's something minor that someone could reasonably forget about then they probably won't be hassled for it and it probably isn't a crime. Hell, if it's a felon that committed violent armed robbery that knowingly lied on the background check form they probably won't be hassled. The police are notoriously negligent in following up on failed NICS checks.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because you signed a federal statement/document that all information on the form is correct and true, if it was correct and true you wouldn't be denied, he was denied for something on his record whether he realizes it or not.

        a lot of people are prohibited and they don't know it "bro that charge was years ago" "I didn't think X was a big deal" happens all the time.

        https://www.mychesco.com/a/news/social-issues/crime/kennett-square-man-arrested-for-attempted-gun-purchase/

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's really amazing how people think they can lie on that form
          About the only thing they give any leanancy to is if you had a very slight typo, like forgetting to dot an i, or if you put like 165 instead of 160 on your weight

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't you moronic zoomers know that the $ comes before the amount?
    it's on every receipt, official document, and advertisment in the country

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well I did call him moronic in the first post. but yes.. it's disgusting

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because zoomers don't bother looking up words anymore, they write them the way they speak them

      hence, 30 $ because "thirty dollars"
      also
      >didn't phase me
      >rein of chaos
      >give me free reign over
      >sike

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It would be $30, not 30 $.
        Good job outing yourself moron.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          SUS.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >it's on every receipt, official document, and advertisment in the country
      Just because everyone does it doesn't mean its right. It ought to replace the decimal.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        contrarians are so cute

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I know someone who was initially denied for a long time and had had a problem elsewhere in the pas ton a background check.
    He was arrested years before, charges were dropped but since the initially arrest was only on paper and out of state that police department would not physically go get the paperwork and scan it in so people could see his record was clear.
    He got the gun in the end due to no actual record of being convicted.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    they delayed me and it was fine. but that was probably because i had to update my drivers license 30 minutes before I bought it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well he was delayed at first, but then got a call 2 days later telling him of the denial

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unless he's a felon he's fine. If he's not a prohibited person then it was probably a false negative due to a similar name or some other paperwork error.
    He should file an appeal either way. Sucks to suck. That's why I put my SSN on the 4473.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This, my brother inlaw has been a litteral cia glow Black person for 15 years but he happens to share a name and birth date with someone on thier shit list and that gives him constant head aches. gay deserves it anyways.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I live in SC so can't speak for everyone but I add my SSN to every 4473 wether it be a pistol or shotgun. I always thought it was required. Longest I've waited was 26 minutes while the computer was "researching" but to be fair it was a Friday and just after the Texas shooting. Shortest I think was 6 minutes or so (all pistols btw) our laws don't really distinguish between a pistol or rifle in terms of your 4473 which is all done on a laptop they give you.
      Tldr: thought SSN was required no matter what.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Same. Here I walk in to Cabelas or my LGS, find a pistol I like, then hand over my license or ID and fill out my 4473 form, although ours just RECENTLY went digital, and walk out roughly a half hour later. Identical to long guns in states like NC just without the gay permit.
        I also know what you mean about the time it takes. There is a big green timer on their computer at Cabelas while it's researching. In the mean time me and an employee just go look and finger frick some guns while waiting.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Longest I've waited in Indiana was 10 minutes but I feel like it was even shorter but the worker was ranting about some Ukraine schizo theory to his coworker instead of working for a good bit of that time

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's not up to him foe the amount of time. It's all on how long it takes for your 4473/info to go through. Busy days can take longer, etc. He just looks at the computer and says "OK, good to go." Now if he was completely ignoring the computer and that's why it took so long that's on him lol
          But usually mine averages about 10-15 minutes for it to come back.
          Now here in SC, something I've never experienced, have this weird thing where they can say "not yet" or some shit and make you wait 3 days while it continues to process. I've heard of it happening and there used to be a law that if you didn't hear anything after 72 hours you could pick your firearm up. Think they changed it to 30 days?
          Again not sure. But Indiana is pretty much thr same as us? Don't need a permit, just walk in, 4473, approved and walk out, right? Hated living in NC because I had to buy permits through the sheriff, wait a couple months for an email to pick them up and STILL do a 4473 lol

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why do both of you talk like Black folk? Are you Black folk?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Usually it's because he has the same name as somebody banned and he didn't use his social security number on the form. Is his name Mohammed or Garcia Lopez or something incredibly common?

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    On a side note but wrongly denies do happen. I am here in the US on a work visa and got denied once. I found out the reason and since it was BS I retried and went thought the second time. Never had anyone call me or anything.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Got Lautenberg'd.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I got 2 trafficking charges. Feds and county cane in my house and took all my guns, arrested me walking out of work. My name came up, I did not comply wirh then upon arrest so they threw 2 trafficking charges 10 year min mandatory. I got a israelite attorney, hd confirmed the case was Frickary. I could have went to trail, instead I took s plea for possession of a controlled substance. 9 month progbafiok. Withheld adjudication. No felony charge.

    I called the factors to give me my guns back after I completed the turns, they were acting stupid…. Finally got to the evidence building and pick up 6 of so guns and take them home. Officers walked them out to my car and put them in the trunk.

    Case is in the process of getting sealed, all of my rights were reinstated. A couple weeks later I purchase a colt 1911, go to the lcs
    >anon you have to fill out these forms
    I know no problem let’s get it goijg
    >let me run it real quick anon, fbi has no wait today should be a few min
    Ok
    >uhhhhh mr anon, your background is dirty. Any idea if it was. Clerical issue, or possibly similar nAme guy had his freedokdoms taken away
    Gun store dudes give me info on how to file for a protest of the results. Go to the police station, get printed. Talk to my attorneys assistant, she said I should be good

    Wait months, finally get s letter from the state law homosexuals I can not pass a background due to the charges I had gotten. Charges were dropped…… but still can’t buy a gun. Lcs wants to buy the 1911 from me to sell, I told them frick of I will return it

    It took fricking 4-6 months for my background to finally be class after the clerks finally sealed my arrests.

    Nothing worse than getting checked legally and having to life no guns 9 months, and after picking up my guns, I was then no gun purchase alllaed for s couple months

    I’m all good now. Frick my local narcs, frick the courts/clerks. I am just happy to be able to buy guns as that is my god given right.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You write like a schizo.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      God damn that's hard to read. Take some grammar lessons before typing out several paragraphs of bullshit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No idea what you're trying to convey with that. You sound borderline illiterate. Do you even have a high school diploma? Your school should be discredited for graduating you.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >at one time was able to own and purchase guns in this state
    Was he required to give up all his guns at the time the restraining order was implemented? And, did he in fact give up all ... every single one of them?

    You would need to rad the actual terms of the restraining order. It would be very strange if it told him he couldn't get any new guns, but makes no mention of any he already has. And, by "has," that includes living in the same house with any guns, no matter who owns them.

    Not knowing the exact jurisdiction, I'll just pass along that there was a story within the past year or so where police pulled a car over for a minor traffic violation. The passenger in the car was subsequently arrested and put in jail for violating such a restriction. Because the driver owned a gun, and had the gun in the glove box. Even though the passenger didn't even know the gun was there, he was in violation because he was in the same car as a gun.

    So, this person you know may very well receive a visit to inspect the premises he inhabits for any weapon that might violate the conditions of his restraining order. The fact that he tried to buy a weapon might be enough of a flag. It depends on the actual court order. Even if the order to stay away from his brother expired, his access to weapons may be on a different time frame, like one year or three years. Depends upon the judge and the jurisdiction.

    In summary, not enough info. But it could, potentially, be quite serious. He should read in careful detail all the documents related to his order, and try to get ahead of it if something comes up. It's kind of on him to contact the ATF (or whoever denied his background check) to ask them to explain why. Probably a Real Good Idea that he has no weapons available to him until he resolves this shit.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Probably just denied the firearm.
    I kept getting denied and nobody ever reached out or visited me. I finally had to send a letter and get it taken care of.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Failed penis inspection. Either uncircumcised or possibly shaved balls.

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