They were also used in the Mikolayv Feint, the Sumy feint, the Chernihiv feint, the bottom of the Black Sea feint and the Kharkiv feint. I don’t think they’ll show up that often from now on.
There have been a bunch of them dying in the Kherson region. Russia has been using them like normal infantry instead of for behind-the-lines strikes or sabotage. Kind of stupid.
Then again, Russia has been throwing fifty-year-old volunteers into the front lines too. And strategic nuclear force troopies. And untrained press-ganged teenagers. Can't wait to see the first dead monkey.
>using them like normal infantry instead of for behind-the-lines strikes or sabotage
that was always the case. no real different from US Airborne or Paras, USMC or Royal Marines. They are often employed as elite infantry to attack key objectives.
>IN THE AAAARMMMS OOOOFFF AN ANGEL >FAR AWAAAAYYYY FROM HERE
>>You can help relieve the suffering of these poor Veh Deh Veh. For just a dollar a day you can help blow up their command structure with HIMARS missiles and destablize their autocratic regime to keep them from being thrown into the meat grinder.
Inb4 some Vatnik comes in here and tried to rewrite history and claim they were successful. After that RT vid, the RU boys went full narrative shift and try to pretend that these guys didn't get fricking decimated and that they were full "mission accomplished".
>only used in the Kiev feint
u lazy or moronic?
Battle of Kharkiv
Battle of Mykolaiv
Siege of Mariupol
in Kherson now, getting their shit pushed in as always
pick out extra large conscripts
gib them telnyashka
gib shitty aluminum BMD-1 with no armor
gib shitty AK-12
decorate with gay orange-black ribbons
...
profit
>while driving their stupid aluminum coffins
I was PCSing during the first days of the invasion but I remember hearing something about how assault rifles with AP rounds can penetrate that armor. At the time I assumed it was an exaggeration but after seeing the colossal frickups of Russia (and also I figure they'd be relatively light for air transport) for over six months, was there actually some truth to that? lmao
Specifically the earlier BMDs, yes. BMD-1 and BMD-2 have trivially little armor. Significantly less than a base M113. For example, the turret is 7mm aluminum.
There was a video of russian crew jumping into ditch because the armored transport they took cover behind got shredded by assault rifle fire at the beginning of the war. Somebody has it?
I'm not Russian and frankly quite liked Putin until all this shit started. If he managed to sell the 'hurrah' propaganda, maybe people will still support him, but I highly doubt it, especially considering Russia has been facing economic hardships for a while now.
I wonder if he sprung up this war to distract people from the shitty domestic situation. If he did, it was a massive miscalculation. You do that when victory is 100% certain, and certainly not against NATO (or any modestly capable force, really).
>If he managed to sell the 'hurrah' propaganda
lolwhat? He already tried it at the start of the war in spring. Nobody gave a frick and he understood that moobalizing is impossible. There is nothing to sell anymore.
>Nobody gave a frick and he understood that moobalizing is impossible. There is nothing to sell anymore.
I haven't followed this war too closely. This actually makes me feel pretty good. I want this fricking war to end as soon as possible, and pretty much the only realistic way that this is going to happen now is by Russia reliquishing it's claims on Ukraine. No support from the people may mean he'll fall soon. At least I hope so.
He based his rein on the idea that he doesn't bother people and people don't bother him. "Country is on autopilot just take a nap" basically. There is no way to change that in a couple of months.
>and certainly not against NATO (or any modestly capable force, really).
That's the thing, he (and most others really) was expecting the same level of resistance and NATO involvement as in 2014.
I'm not a Chief of State (no shit), but man, that's not a risk I'd take.
He based his rein on the idea that he doesn't bother people and people don't bother him. "Country is on autopilot just take a nap" basically. There is no way to change that in a couple of months.
Don't underestimate the rage of a defeated people, especially if it was a minor (on the grand scale, Russian territory is not at risk), humiliating defeat.
>Don't underestimate the rage of a defeated people
Russians tend to blame their government for losses like that. Because they delegated all the power to it with expectation of the government making Russia "great again" this is legitimately the only reason Russians can feel justified shitting on their government.
The government can fail at anything they want, that's not a problem "who cares, anyone else would be as bad if not worse, don't rock the boat homosexual". But if they fail at war that's it for them.
>I'm not a Chief of State (no shit), but man, that's not a risk I'd take.
Not being a tyrannical chief of state means you're not surrounded by sycophants and yes men constantly telling you how it's all going to work out brilliantly.
>Don't underestimate the rage of a defeated people
Russians tend to blame their government for losses like that. Because they delegated all the power to it with expectation of the government making Russia "great again" this is legitimately the only reason Russians can feel justified shitting on their government.
The government can fail at anything they want, that's not a problem "who cares, anyone else would be as bad if not worse, don't rock the boat homosexual". But if they fail at war that's it for them.
Do note how various figures have started going "Putin's advisors have failed him" or variations thereof in Russian media. Convenient scapegoats both for Putin, and for all the people who want someone to blame at the top but sure as hell won't risk getting sent to gulag as long as it isn't them/their sons personally about to be tossed into the meat grinder (especially with prisoners now being voluntold...)
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>Do note how various figures have started going "Putin's advisors have failed him" or variations thereof in Russian media
They are just covering their asses. Putin put his face at the forefront of this whole thing and there is no way for him to hide from it anymore. If you checked Z telegram channels when Kharkiv front was collapsing they all blamed Putin himself.
Yes it is possible. As long as he does the forcing out in the hicks noone in the big cities give a shit about, and uses the slik gloves in the westernmost cities. Whether a bunch of hastily trained conscripts with early cold war gear will do any good against what is currently the most determined, motivated and experienced and continously resupplied ground fighting army on the planet is a different thing.
Unironically, I expect to see them storming Putin's bunker and stringing him up, Mussolini style. Praetorian guards don't take lightly being mishandled.
How many of those blood stained beret's will decorate the man caves and home bars of Ukies after its all over? I'd mount one on the wall with a bayonet stabbed through it.
Hide it in a trunk in your attic like a normal person. Your kids won't find it until after you die, but the fact you never mentioned you killed a dude from the VDV "in the war" guarantees you'll become a family legend. Two hundred years from now, someone will start a story with, "You know, your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather killed eleven Orc paratroopers with just an entrenching tool..."
Yep. Probably because of the destroyed dam and the inability to retreat across Ingulets river ukrainians on Andreevsky bridgehead are catching the blows of the artillery and will soon be destroyed.
Rural Russian villages. These guys are no longer a good fighting force, if they were ever one. All they do now is lay around drinking vodka and smoking cigs and measuring each other's dick sizes.
A grave.
A mass grave in Kyiv.
I realized I misread the op as reading "Where do you expec to see their next significant deployment?"
It still works all the same.
Never. They went extinct.
they dead man, Zs dead
They were also used in the Mikolayv Feint, the Sumy feint, the Chernihiv feint, the bottom of the Black Sea feint and the Kharkiv feint. I don’t think they’ll show up that often from now on.
There have been a bunch of them dying in the Kherson region. Russia has been using them like normal infantry instead of for behind-the-lines strikes or sabotage. Kind of stupid.
Then again, Russia has been throwing fifty-year-old volunteers into the front lines too. And strategic nuclear force troopies. And untrained press-ganged teenagers. Can't wait to see the first dead monkey.
>using them like normal infantry instead of for behind-the-lines strikes or sabotage
that was always the case. no real different from US Airborne or Paras, USMC or Royal Marines. They are often employed as elite infantry to attack key objectives.
When the sun rises from the west
They're mostly dead, and the ones who aren't have been used in the rear.
Heh...
VDV are operationally destroyed, OP. Too many feints?
I still want one of those berets and their watches. They drowned in less than 70m of water, right?
>They drowned in less than 70m of water,
One can drown in 6 inches of water if one is drunk enough.
Yeah, I don't think that's what he asked.
Anon, I...
VED DEH VED
THEY"RE ALL DEAD
>The one guy with the big groomed mustache.
I actually feel bad for him. Everyone else, not so much.
Same. The moustache man looked like a good lad
rip in pieces
>IN THE AAAARMMMS OOOOFFF AN ANGEL
>FAR AWAAAAYYYY FROM HERE
>>You can help relieve the suffering of these poor Veh Deh Veh. For just a dollar a day you can help blow up their command structure with HIMARS missiles and destablize their autocratic regime to keep them from being thrown into the meat grinder.
>Donate today.
Piss on their graves
Haven't you heard? They are ghosts now!
>Captcha: VDVHRH
They've been in Kherson for months you moron
They're dead anon
Kherson and Melitopol feints.
Inb4 some Vatnik comes in here and tried to rewrite history and claim they were successful. After that RT vid, the RU boys went full narrative shift and try to pretend that these guys didn't get fricking decimated and that they were full "mission accomplished".
>only used in the Kiev feint
u lazy or moronic?
Battle of Kharkiv
Battle of Mykolaiv
Siege of Mariupol
in Kherson now, getting their shit pushed in as always
Pouring one out for these blue homies like they got poured out of a plane into oncoming Stingers and flak.
They were only used in the Kiev feint because they all fricking died there
pick out extra large conscripts
gib them telnyashka
gib shitty aluminum BMD-1 with no armor
gib shitty AK-12
decorate with gay orange-black ribbons
...
profit
this can go on until another revolution in Russia
Honestly serves them right for trying to be fricking paratroopers in 2022
These were the professional soldiers, the actual trained and supplied ones? Sent to their unsupported deaths?
Yes.
Sometimes I wonder if Putin tried to grab Ukraine and purge the threat of military rivals at the same time.
They got put down like dogs while driving their stupid aluminum coffins around Hostomel.
>while driving their stupid aluminum coffins
I was PCSing during the first days of the invasion but I remember hearing something about how assault rifles with AP rounds can penetrate that armor. At the time I assumed it was an exaggeration but after seeing the colossal frickups of Russia (and also I figure they'd be relatively light for air transport) for over six months, was there actually some truth to that? lmao
Specifically the earlier BMDs, yes. BMD-1 and BMD-2 have trivially little armor. Significantly less than a base M113. For example, the turret is 7mm aluminum.
>base M113
Nobody even uses those anymore. They're all A3s now, and those things repel 50 cal rounds
I'm skeptical that an intermediate round could penetrate any APC, but a 7.62x54mm AP round against a BMD-1? Oh yeah, I'd definitely buy that.
There was a video of russian crew jumping into ditch because the armored transport they took cover behind got shredded by assault rifle fire at the beginning of the war. Somebody has it?
I think that was chechens lmao. Took a bit of small arms fire and crawled around the trucks without spreading out :DDD
The cowards, the fools!
Probably deployed fertilizing fields given the state they're in.
According to wikipedia, they only lost about 2%, so i’m sure they used soon again
Is there a possibility that Putin will schizo out and start forcing conscription and le total war mindset and still stay in power?
Depends on how deep the Russian slave mentality runs
I'm not Russian and frankly quite liked Putin until all this shit started. If he managed to sell the 'hurrah' propaganda, maybe people will still support him, but I highly doubt it, especially considering Russia has been facing economic hardships for a while now.
I wonder if he sprung up this war to distract people from the shitty domestic situation. If he did, it was a massive miscalculation. You do that when victory is 100% certain, and certainly not against NATO (or any modestly capable force, really).
>If he managed to sell the 'hurrah' propaganda
lolwhat? He already tried it at the start of the war in spring. Nobody gave a frick and he understood that moobalizing is impossible. There is nothing to sell anymore.
>Nobody gave a frick and he understood that moobalizing is impossible. There is nothing to sell anymore.
I haven't followed this war too closely. This actually makes me feel pretty good. I want this fricking war to end as soon as possible, and pretty much the only realistic way that this is going to happen now is by Russia reliquishing it's claims on Ukraine. No support from the people may mean he'll fall soon. At least I hope so.
He based his rein on the idea that he doesn't bother people and people don't bother him. "Country is on autopilot just take a nap" basically. There is no way to change that in a couple of months.
>and certainly not against NATO (or any modestly capable force, really).
That's the thing, he (and most others really) was expecting the same level of resistance and NATO involvement as in 2014.
I'm not a Chief of State (no shit), but man, that's not a risk I'd take.
Don't underestimate the rage of a defeated people, especially if it was a minor (on the grand scale, Russian territory is not at risk), humiliating defeat.
>Don't underestimate the rage of a defeated people
Russians tend to blame their government for losses like that. Because they delegated all the power to it with expectation of the government making Russia "great again" this is legitimately the only reason Russians can feel justified shitting on their government.
The government can fail at anything they want, that's not a problem "who cares, anyone else would be as bad if not worse, don't rock the boat homosexual". But if they fail at war that's it for them.
>I'm not a Chief of State (no shit), but man, that's not a risk I'd take.
Not being a tyrannical chief of state means you're not surrounded by sycophants and yes men constantly telling you how it's all going to work out brilliantly.
Do note how various figures have started going "Putin's advisors have failed him" or variations thereof in Russian media. Convenient scapegoats both for Putin, and for all the people who want someone to blame at the top but sure as hell won't risk getting sent to gulag as long as it isn't them/their sons personally about to be tossed into the meat grinder (especially with prisoners now being voluntold...)
>Do note how various figures have started going "Putin's advisors have failed him" or variations thereof in Russian media
They are just covering their asses. Putin put his face at the forefront of this whole thing and there is no way for him to hide from it anymore. If you checked Z telegram channels when Kharkiv front was collapsing they all blamed Putin himself.
Yes it is possible. As long as he does the forcing out in the hicks noone in the big cities give a shit about, and uses the slik gloves in the westernmost cities. Whether a bunch of hastily trained conscripts with early cold war gear will do any good against what is currently the most determined, motivated and experienced and continously resupplied ground fighting army on the planet is a different thing.
I think they were at Popasna, it was them and Wagner that caused the breakout if I remember correctly.
How long does it take to train a new batch of these buttholes? All the old ones are dead.
Unironically, I expect to see them storming Putin's bunker and stringing him up, Mussolini style. Praetorian guards don't take lightly being mishandled.
Gay spa's
>When do you expect to see their next significant deployment?
Reincarnation.
How many of those blood stained beret's will decorate the man caves and home bars of Ukies after its all over? I'd mount one on the wall with a bayonet stabbed through it.
>I'd mount one on the wall with a bayonet stabbed through it.
Unless you have actually earned it, this display would make you the Ultimate Pandimensional Lord Of Cringe.
Hide it in a trunk in your attic like a normal person. Your kids won't find it until after you die, but the fact you never mentioned you killed a dude from the VDV "in the war" guarantees you'll become a family legend. Two hundred years from now, someone will start a story with, "You know, your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather killed eleven Orc paratroopers with just an entrenching tool..."
They frick ukrainians on kherson front, who were trained according to Nato standards in the UK.
Mykolaiv tomorrow and Odessa next week? Or by fricking you mean they are still holding some of their positions?
Yep. Probably because of the destroyed dam and the inability to retreat across Ingulets river ukrainians on Andreevsky bridgehead are catching the blows of the artillery and will soon be destroyed.
Ukrainians don't need to cross any rivers to defend Mykolaiv.
>When do you expect to see their next significant deployment?
When vatBlack folk get together enough of them to try anything funny again
Rural Russian villages. These guys are no longer a good fighting force, if they were ever one. All they do now is lay around drinking vodka and smoking cigs and measuring each other's dick sizes.
They were deployed to Hell immediately after that operation. Been bogged down ever since.