So apparently ukies are using polish Grot riffle. Supposedly it has many flaws. How is it doing during current conflict?

So apparently ukies are using polish Grot riffle. Supposedly it has many flaws. How is it doing during current conflict? Is it as bad as they say?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    scar like rifles are the future? i don't like them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say that it's more like an ACR: it's got QD barrels, the bolt release is similar, and the stock is definitely following the ACR's lead. The ability to convert between bullpup and conventional layouts is unique though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bolt carrier shape is nearly identical, yes it shares a lot of similarities to the ACR, far more than it does to the SCAR. However, you need a torque wrench to reinstall a barrel so I wouldn't exactly call that QD. (ACR QD barrel was a meme anyway and added too much weight for no benefit.)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          QD barrels in general are a meme for any rifle that splits into an upper and lower.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They're honestly a meme in general, just switch rifles. No need for extra complexity, less accuracy, and barrels flying out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The SCAR was an ACR copy, and an ugly one to boot. The future is bullpup now that they've been perfected. Something like the MSBS or MDRX. The MSBS is a great concept because it comes in both forms, so a sniper that doesn't need a shorter barrel can opt for the grandpa stock configuration.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the ACR was designed 2 years after the SCAR you fucking retard

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Supposedly it has many flaws
    it does not
    >How is it doing during current conflict?
    it's doing great
    >Is it as bad as they say?
    no
    also in polen costs 10% more than aero ar-15, grot 14.5 will be my next purchase

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'm going to be very clear.
      i'm tired as fuck of these wannabe SCAR and the fucking dumwits that keep making them in 5.56 only
      like, motherfucker, the only SCAR people buy is the one in 7.62NATO, just fucking make it in 7.62NATO too but no, they keep shitting these overpriced AR instead, can't believe only the swiss got that through their skull

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >like, motherfucker, the only SCAR people buy is the one in 7.62NATO, just fucking make it in 7.62NATO too but no
        theres 7.62x39 version though hideous as fuck, the 7.62N version is in the works

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bren 2

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not available in 308 and i don't know why they refuse to sell it to civilian, i keep seeing it on their website but when i go to the gunshop no one has it and nobody can order it

          https://i.imgur.com/TOrb7Zr.jpg

          >like, motherfucker, the only SCAR people buy is the one in 7.62NATO, just fucking make it in 7.62NATO too but no
          theres 7.62x39 version though hideous as fuck, the 7.62N version is in the works

          >7.62N in the work
          aaaaah finally, some good news

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            there's also SKW-25, i was told they might start selling it next year, but it's more gucci than grot, more like MCX
            https://www.zmt.tarnow.pl/wordpress/item/samopowtarzalny-karabin-wyborowy-308/
            also 5.56 version
            https://infosecurity24.pl/bezpieczenstwo-wewnetrzne/tarnowski-karabinek-mws-15-wychodzi-z-cienia

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              interresting, thanks for the link i'll keep an eye out on that

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            first, sorry i thought you meant 762x39

            second, if you that desperately want something in 762 NATO, don't expect it to be the size of modern assault rifle, get an old FAL or G3 or something those things are actually good still

            third, Bren 2s are deffinetly sold to civilians in both 556 and 762 soviet. Your gun brokers are just idiots. But then again, i'm from chzech, so brokers here dont have to bother with inport/export shit. They are at around 2 553 EUR straight from CZ-UB and other brokers i just googled. In USA they are sold at around 2000 dollars, altho those are pistol version or whatever the fuck that abomination is.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bren 2 can be found in 5.56 and 7.62 soviet here, it's only 7.62NATO that is not available and i don't mind the size of the rifle.
              so my option is only the APC308 from B&T or get an imported SCAR-H for 10k€ from switzerland, and no i don't want to hear about the robinson arms XCR that shit is just an overpriced AK

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why not just buy an ar-10?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i kind of wanted something else than the AR stuff and i own enough cold war era weapons, so i've decided to get something more "tactical" for the sake of it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                man, if you just want 762NATO and a modern rifle so you can slap stuff on the rails and the accesorry there are other oprtions than SCAR
                GAP-10 G2
                BDR-15
                Remington 700 PCR
                to name a few

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Remington 700 PCR
                are you fucking retarded?

                i kind of wanted something else than the AR stuff and i own enough cold war era weapons, so i've decided to get something more "tactical" for the sake of it.

                gotcha but i wouldn't wait for grot 7.62N, it might come next year or in 2030, who knows

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >are you fucking retarded?
                what, they sell version in 308, stop whining

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                for starters it's a fucking bolt action and that anon wants a semi auto

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                is it? i was going throug a catalong with siluetts only
                whatever, sorry

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        These wannabe scars are for people replacing AKs but fell for the propaganda that the AR-15 is unreliable

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fucking make it in 7.62NATO
        Fucking this. Some of them are good designs too but they only come in that mouse hunting caliber.

        These wannabe scars are for people replacing AKs but fell for the propaganda that the AR-15 is unreliable

        Have fun breaking your gun shooting steel, not having a functioning gun if you don't douse it in lube, and clearing your unique AR15 brass over bolt malfunctions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it does not
      kek cope, fatfuckpatches anon uses it and he said it's awful.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fatfuckpatches anon
        opinion discarded

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    polsih mil equipmn? any good??

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Polish" military equipment is just foreign military equipment, sometimes built under license.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It had many flaws when they first gave them out to the TDF apes to find ways to break it.
    It's on third or fourth revision now and it's perfectly serviceable AR-18 clone.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This war is full of unicorn guns on the Ukranian side. Here's a FN2000 from the ongoing offensive.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all the states and manufacturers are literally dumping all their old inventories
      it will be so much fun for gun historians to trace those guns, kind of like everyone send everything they had to russia during WWI and from there to every satelite state around the world during cold war
      kind of like finding StG 44, captured by soviets in germany, send to vietnam as military aid, captured by americans from vietkong and brought to USA (true story that one)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >f2000 in ukraine
      its just like my video game 🙂

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One could probably loot some cool shit and ship it back. I'm sure lots of it will go missing or be sold after the war is over. Make note and be ready to get your near equipment. If I were a eurofag I'd drive over there and see if any hohols wanna sell their now unneeded guns when the war ends.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Truly we have ascended STALKER tier levels

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Grot

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >another company using Ukraine for field trials
    I am shocked

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      company using Ukraine for field trials
      grot was fielded a couple of years ago in polish territorial defense forces, 40k rifles in service

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're right sorry I should have phrased it as combat trials.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's ok, and it's doing ok. Ok?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're using everything they can get their hands on from the West. Some of it is nice shit too. I'm pretty sure these are some Desert Tech guns our special forces were testing out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really wanna know what happened to that shipment of keltec bullshit from the start of the war.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Actual war
      >375 CT

      Oh I really do hope this catches on. 338 is a subpar outdated round.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        338 Lapua is outdated?

        This is all likely stuff that our special forces has tested and doesn't need anymore.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          M8 it took 40 years for the army to move on from the 5.56 shitfest.
          SF have used it, but the marginal improvement (40% extra effective range) is hardly worth justifying full rearmament.
          Generally, they either use the 338 they already have or a 50 bmg.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's Luke 8 different .338 rounds, please specify. I'm assuming you mean Lapua because it's one of the SF sniper calibers. It has excellent ballistics and achieves what it's designed for, but the best all around remains .300 win mag due to lessened recoil compared to .338 Lapua, .300 Norma mag, and .338 Norma mag. That's what closeted homosexual child killer Chris Kyle used, for what it's worth. Mainly I think nobody wants to lug around the heavy ass rifles needed to shoot .338L or .50BMG, that's a big consideration. .300WM already shoots as far as the modern scope can see, why carry more weight?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >already shoots as far as the modern scope can see
              And honestly most designated marksmen are just using .308, because it achieves the above. But when someone really wants to reach out, stay shooting flat, and cut wind drift, it's either .300WM or .338 Lapua they go with if they wanna carry that heavy ass rifle around.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why 338 norma > lapua, really? I'm uninformed but I thought it was generally preferred due to not needing as big an ejection port or something..

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are uninformed or poor fanbois.
                338LM is the caliber of choice when stepping down from a 50.

                There's Luke 8 different .338 rounds, please specify. I'm assuming you mean Lapua because it's one of the SF sniper calibers. It has excellent ballistics and achieves what it's designed for, but the best all around remains .300 win mag due to lessened recoil compared to .338 Lapua, .300 Norma mag, and .338 Norma mag. That's what closeted homosexual child killer Chris Kyle used, for what it's worth. Mainly I think nobody wants to lug around the heavy ass rifles needed to shoot .338L or .50BMG, that's a big consideration. .300WM already shoots as far as the modern scope can see, why carry more weight?

                There is really only 1 useful 338 and thats the LM. I am not even going to go through why the modern scope can see further than 1400 yards, and why 2000 yard shot happen OFTEN.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wouldn't worry about it, they're both $5 a round. For Special forces obviously thay doesn't matter, but for a civilian that's extremely important to how much they can actually train and stockpile. 300WM is around $1.50 a round and reaches out as far as you'll need to touch.

                They are uninformed or poor fanbois.
                338LM is the caliber of choice when stepping down from a 50.

                [...]
                There is really only 1 useful 338 and thats the LM. I am not even going to go through why the modern scope can see further than 1400 yards, and why 2000 yard shot happen OFTEN.

                Yeah I don't need to shoot that far and neither do you. If you want to, go join a war and be a big bad sniper with this immense amount of knowledge you have. I'll keep worrying about civilian practicality only.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody talked about war conditions. If you don't want to shoot far that your choice, but it is beyond the point. Go shoot a 5.56 with a reddot, who cares? Civilians don't have practicality for anything except maybe a pistol. If you are talking about SHTF I guarantee you, you want to be as far as possible. If you are talking about hunting, the same goes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll buy a satellite railgun then.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >338 is a subpar outdated round
        The contrarianism on you retards gets more and more retarded everyday. Post guns

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >338 is a subpar outdated round
        what in the cherry blossom fuck are you talking about

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just let the germs fix it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just let the germs fix it
      let them fix their anus first

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