So?

So PrepHole are you buying up winter gear during the out of season sales?
I see goretex pro shell jackets going for as little as $250 (an addiadas terrex model, the blue one)
Also for those of you who bike or run this is your last chance to pick up a goretex shake dry jacket since the fabric has been discontinued by goretex, considered by some to be the best high activity waterproof fabric ever made, its been discontinued for environmental reasons and not performance or durability issues.
Anything else you have been geargayging over? Pick up any wool midlayers or fleeces? Any windbreakers?
Find any great deals?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've been seeing a lot of good deals on splitboards on marketplace/CL, but it's hard to spend $500+ on something that's going unused until December.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >but it's hard to spend $500+ on something that's going unused until December.
      That's why they are cheap right now, it's like how the best time to buy a motorcycle is October/November at least in states that have cold snowy winters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly, my friend couldn't sell her boat last October for $7000, she sold it last week for $10000. I'd pull the trigger on a set up now but I'm in the process of moving and I need furniture too.

        Have you used a splitboard before? Or is it something you want to get into? It's an interesting concept but i wonder if it would be unwieldy to split and reconnect the board multiple times a day.

        It's something I want to get into, I've never done it but I've never seen rentals offered anywhere, even though my home mountain has a lot of ski touring/splitboarders. Clipping the board back together and moving the bindings seems less difficult than the touring up the mountain part; everyone I see usually takes a break after touring and setting their board up before riding down.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Clipping the board back together and moving the bindings seems less difficult than the touring up the mountain part
          Fair enough, i was picturing more cross country kinda applications

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yes of course i am.
        you only buy gear at full price when you're new to PrepHole and need the gear immediately.
        once you own all your gear and you're just upgrading and replacing worn out stuff, there is no reason to buy big brand gear at full price on reason.

        https://i.imgur.com/dmkQzMl.jpg

        Has anyone tried Helikon-Tex stuff? It's a polish brand & made in Vietnam. The reviews are actually fairly good for the price point or do you think it's mil junk for larpers? The Jacket pictured is around 100 eurobucks.

        there's much higher quality stuff out there but for the price helikon-tex is usually a solid choice. i use a lot of their stuff for hunting gear but not really as hiking gear because it tends to be really over-built.

        >shake-dry fabric
        yeah, that's just PFAS. don't expose yourself to that stuff, it's bad for you across the board. and definitely don't wear it outside, poisoning the trails and groundwater, reducing our nation's fertility.

        >and definitely don't wear it outside, poisoning the trails and groundwater, reducing our nation's fertility.
        shake-dry doesn't shed microplastics like other breathable membranes do. it doesn't use dwr.
        its still really bad for the environment to make the jacket and eventually dispose of it, but its not shedding microplastics everywhere you go like a dwr membrane would.
        gore tex just discontinued it actually, and they plan to replace it with a PFAS-free equivalent really soon.

        you dont need to buy $500 goretex jackets bro

        the best rain jackets i ever had were $100 silnylon jackets from some guy off reddit https://timmermade.com/product-category/clothing/
        and the $20 frog toggs from wal mart
        shakedry is sweet for cycling but too flimsy for more than casual hiking to me
        gore tex pro is alright but dwr jackets will get you killed or ruin your trip where i live and with the kind of hiking i do.
        i live and do all my hiking between oregon and alaska and i live in the highest rainfall region. i have no problem saying my opinions are worth more than 99-100% of anons when it comes to rain gear. you don't need to spend a lot, the best materials aren't expensive. even if you won the lottery i would recommend jackets barely over $100.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >gore tex pro is alright but dwr jackets will get you killed or ruin your trip where i live and with the kind of hiking i do.
          Why do you say this? Because they still wet out eventually? Or the breathability still isint enough?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            cause they'll wet out. saying it'll kill you is a bit dramatic, if you live in one of those areas you probably know how to deal with it so at most it ruins your trip and forces you to set up camp. but its also not dramatic, the mountain range i dayhike averages a death or two a year, usually tourists.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Have you used a splitboard before? Or is it something you want to get into? It's an interesting concept but i wonder if it would be unwieldy to split and reconnect the board multiple times a day.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    picked up some merino thermals

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone tried Helikon-Tex stuff? It's a polish brand & made in Vietnam. The reviews are actually fairly good for the price point or do you think it's mil junk for larpers? The Jacket pictured is around 100 eurobucks.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Havent tried them myself but they seem to have a good reputation as a value brand. I was eyeing some of their fleece jackets this week and i saw a few posters here say good things about them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking love their stuff.
      Pretty much my go to brand.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's nice but it's both heavy (think canvas tent) and not waterproof. I decided to keep the one I bought because it will be great against mosquitoes and for the pockets.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >and not waterproof
        Have you considering waxing it? I have a waxed cotton jacket and it holds up pretty well

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks for the suggestion. Just looked it up and it doesn't seem to complicated. Will give it a shot.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Ive rewaxed my jacket before, it's a pretty easy process. From my experience i wold not go super heavy on the first application, if you go really heavy on the wax it will build up on the inside and you will have to clean the excess off so you don't end up with wax on your shirt when you wear it.
            Otherwise it's pretty straightforward, melt the wax in a hotwater bath, apply with a paintbrush or sponge or rag or something, hit it with a hairdryer if you want to really get it melted in and don't skip the step at the end where you remove excess wax from the surface with an old tshirt or rag or something.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I've been wearing their UTP ripstop pants for a few months now. They've held up great so far. I wear em at work where I'm constantly on my knees and ass pulling weeds, laying sod, etc. The elastic waist and velcro instead of a button is really nice. Good amount of well sized pockets that prevent things from falling out. They've treated me well for hiking as well as they're light and pretty stretchy. They're also just very comfortable. Haven't really found any downsides yet. If their jackets are comparable then I'd recommend getting one.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Their stuff is awesome. You can tell that the engineers are fond of their work.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Im too poor this year to buy stuff

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah i feel that, i can scrape together some cash for shoes or boots. I got lucky and found a nice REI puffer at a charity shop for a few bucks. That's about all i will be getting this year other than food and other supplies

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you dont need to buy $500 goretex jackets bro

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        All i need to buy is food, tax and electricity

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >as little as as 250
    For me it's below 100 usd or no deal

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You can find some goretex stuff that cheap, but its usually paclite which isn't super breathable.
      This one skirts in at $99
      https://www.ebay.com/itm/185877310706
      If this listing is correct here is a adidas goretex pro golf jacket with no hood for $105
      https://www.ebay.com/itm/394192965342
      You can always get those surplus membrane flecktarn parkas for less than $100

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        or just get a 30 usd nylon jacket with armpit zippers

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >shake-dry fabric
    yeah, that's just PFAS. don't expose yourself to that stuff, it's bad for you across the board. and definitely don't wear it outside, poisoning the trails and groundwater, reducing our nation's fertility.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >yeah, that's just PFAS
      Same with every durable water resistant coating that's been on any outdoor gear for the last 40 + years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Just because you are a climate alarmist homosexual, I'm going to buy one now

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Gorewear, goretex decided to hoard the last of it for themselves. Like i said unfortunately its all running and biking jackets, but if you are into that sort of thing, it's really fricking good

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The sales aren't for another month, goofball.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Any recommendations for a midlayer? Something that's comfortable around the 0-10 celsius range

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      a $5 hoodie

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      One if those alpha direct hoodies from the diy people like timmermade, or the ones made by brands like norrona if you dont mind spending money. Alpha direct is good as acive insulation while you are moving, wicks sweat well, very warm with something over it.
      Also any merino midlayer, probably the heavier weight stuff in the 250g range, the ones that use a nylon core wool thread are more durable.
      The Patagonia R1 air stuff performs similarly to the alpha direct fleece.
      Also just your typical grid fleece/polartech power dry stuff like that.
      Helikon-tex has a nice looking grid fleece im sure you can find those easy in euroland.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      cheap: $5 grid fleece hoodie or $5 polartec 100 hoodie
      hippie: merino sweater, thrifted (note: still contains tons of microplastics, look up how its treated)
      baller: alpha direct
      durability: fleece > merino > alpha direct
      performance: alpha direct > fleece > merino

      One if those alpha direct hoodies from the diy people like timmermade, or the ones made by brands like norrona if you dont mind spending money. Alpha direct is good as acive insulation while you are moving, wicks sweat well, very warm with something over it.
      Also any merino midlayer, probably the heavier weight stuff in the 250g range, the ones that use a nylon core wool thread are more durable.
      The Patagonia R1 air stuff performs similarly to the alpha direct fleece.
      Also just your typical grid fleece/polartech power dry stuff like that.
      Helikon-tex has a nice looking grid fleece im sure you can find those easy in euroland.

      mountain hard wear's air mesh is another good alpha direct alternative. a little less performant, way more durable. haven't tried the patagonia, should i?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >haven't tried the patagonia, should i?
        Well the r1 air stuff is more durable for sure. They kind of marketed it weirdly, i think they initially introduced it only as a henley which actually makes decent sense as a layering piece but made it seem more like it was intended for casual wear then as a performance midlayer.
        They also have the nano air jackets which are their version of the regular alpha active insulation jackets. Haven't looked into them at all.
        >merino sweater, thrifted (note: still contains tons of microplastics, look up how its treated)
        That's interesting i was reading the weather wool guys website and one of the things he mentioned is that all the wool he buys has to be inspected with a microscope to make sure no polyester or other synthetics is in the fibres, he said even a small amount of it fricks up the performance of his wool fabrics, i haven't really seen that mentioned elsewhere so i wasnt sure how much truth there was to it.
        I really want to pick up one of his shirt jackets, i wish he ran things in a bit more organized manner.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >i think they initially introduced it only as a henley which actually makes decent sense as a layering piece but made it seem more like it was intended for casual wear then as a performance midlayer.
          Actually reading up on it the henly is cut like a casual shirt, loose and baggy, yeah i can see why that went over like a wet fart. They have it in the more standard athletic jacket patterns now too.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >That's interesting i was reading the weather wool guys website and one of the things he mentioned is that all the wool he buys has to be inspected with a microscope to make sure no polyester or other synthetics is in the fibres, he said even a small amount of it fricks up the performance of his wool fabrics, i haven't really seen that mentioned elsewhere so i wasnt sure how much truth there was to it.
          you can get untreated merino, and also merino treated to be shrinkproof in other ways. its just that by far the most common way to shrink-proof merino wool is to coat it in hercosett-125 resin. look up superwash and also wool shrinkproofing techniques for more info if you're interested. better than getting third hand regurgitated info from me.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks! That's really interesting stuff. I naively thought superwash was just some kind of raw fabric laundering process

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              it can be anywhere from that benign to full on plastic coating every fiber. both fall under the umbrella 'superwash' but one's way cheaper and more common.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >weather wool
            Hadn't heard of this stuff before. Searched up the web site and god damn, that is the gaygiest marketed "outdoor" site I have ever seen.

            Haha check out the "poncho" guy reenacting the pose where he got robbed walking from the gay bar to the 24/7 kebab shop.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The weather wool guy is some nutty boomer with terrible branding/marketing and some questionable designs but he is bringing some pretty impressive wool fabrics to the table, luckily you can just buy his fabric and make your own shit.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Frick no I'm not because whatever you buy now will be superseded by the new winter lines before you even get to use it.

    It'll be obvious to everyone around you that you are wearing last year's colorway.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people need winter gear? It's pathetic how people need all this special gear for each season and have been tricked by clever marketing into CONSOOOMING as part of their hobby.

    I wear the same thin windproof raincoat in winter as in summer, and besides that I use layers. Wool, fleece, whatever. Layers are the best form of insulation, and you can add and remove them according to the temperature. You do not need a specially designed coat made from plastic and forever chemicals with cool sounded names and logos.

    Wool is an incredible material.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do people need winter gear?
      how far north do you live?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do people need winter gear?
      Come to Norway and let me show you around our mountains. I'm sure you'll enjoy not using gear fit for the nordic mountains. We have free healthcare here after all so don't worry about the frost damage you'll get.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Frost damage? Pfft I'll just bring my ring of +10 frost resist

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The trolls are gonna debuff your frost resistance ring pretty quickly unless you have the Viking Blood ability

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Traditional gear is comparatively bulky, especially if we're talking about places that get a real winter.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The deals start in June and July you absolute frickjob.

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