just accidentally made 150 .38 special rounds for my revolver with small rifle primers because I am retarded. Is my gun going to explode? should I cut the power charge? I tried reading some boomer forums and half of them say it's just thicker metal and the other half says they are more powerful.
I feel like trying to remove them will make them explode.
yeah
I should probably add that I shoot wadcutters at 20 meters and use pretty much the minimum powder charge. I'd be confident if I had a full steel revolver but I have a shitty Arminius that's made of zinc
if you don't go below minimum powder load and/or pack some cotton to keep the powder packed then it's not going to be an issue. otherwise it might ignite it all too soon and explode your gun.
Thanks anons, makes sense. I'll test a few and if I feel it's not right I'll just stash them away and fire them when I finally get a 38 rifle.
Fuddlore, no powder company has ever been able to cause it to happen. It's boomers double charging their rounds and trying to save face.
Unless your loads with pistol primers were on the verge of exploding your gun you are fine. The pressure increase is negligible. I don't even bother buying pistol primers because it's easier to just have 1 type sitting around.
You're good. Just bail and pull the bullets if your revolver can't light off the harder rifle primers reliably.
it'll be fine but the hammer might not have enough smack to set them off
glocks won't set off small rifle primers
treat small rifle primers like magnum pistol primers, it's not going to explode if you're shooting your .38 from a .357 mag rated gun
like I said, is an arminius meaning it's definitely not rated 357. it's not super shitty though
since its a revolver cup depth isn`t relevant when it comes to firing out of battery. Pressure might be a bit higher tho. Might aswell be that the hammer wont set them off. But not much can happen m8.
If it's close to a max charge then yeah pull the bullets and powder, then fire the primer-only cases at the range. Not because they're riglemprimers, but because you should always start low and work back up when you change any component, even changing brands of primer while staying in the correct family.
That said, I wouldn't bother pulling them if these were plinking loads where small variances arent going to be a big deal or lead to an overpressure situation, and your firearm has a stout hammer spring and can set them off reliably. While small rifle primers are generally speaking about as powerful as pistol primers, pistol primers aren't all the same power and aren't interchangeable with each other.
I use small rifle primers in my 38 super load, but I worked it up using regular pistol primers then backed down and switched to small rifle primers, and worked back up carefully. Final charge with SR primers was a tenth of a grain lower than with SP primers, but equal velocity (125gr @ 1535 fps) and a lower s.d. than the SP load.
>opinion
>backed by data
Whoa is this board getting better lately?
what was your charge exactly? Also propellant? I use vectan BA 10 2,3 gr
Not at home right now so I can't answer the charge, but the powder was Vihtavuori N-105, and it was below their max load. Cases are Starline 38SC (which is just a rimless version of their regular 38 Super brass), and primers were CCI (pistol) and Winchester (small rifle). I switched to small rifle primers because the pistol primers were thoroughly flattened, but mic-ing the spent cases showed no expansion at the web. Pistol is a Colt Super 38, with a Clark barrel and action job, and a 38SC extractor.
why are you using N105 in .38? that's double-based magnum powder. .38 shoots good with fast burning single-base powder.
also the primers shouldn't pose a danger.
Because N-105 with 125 gr jhp is God-tier in 38 Super. Book max with my bullet is 1550fps.
>magnum powder
Yeah that load is slightly compressed. 3n38 is also a popular 38 super powder because it works a compensator better than n105, n105 seems to be case volume limited not pressure limited and compensators need both pressure and gas volume.
>primers shouldn't pose a danger
Yes they were perfectly safe, they were flsttening not because of excessive peak pressure but because of sustained high pressure, there was no case web expansion at all. But the range fags saw my cases and bitched at me for it claimingnit was unsafe. Switching to small rifle primers made that social problem go away.
>pistol primers were thoroughly flattened
Not a good way of guessing pressure. Also completely meaningless at normal pistol pressures.
Yes I know, which is why I mentioned checking case web stretch with a micrometer. Also see
Where I talk about this in more detail.
If your 38 is not a shitty gun and you would feel comfortable loading +p in it then a normal 38spl load with small rifle primers would be fine.
I load primers only and make wax rounds by heating the primed casing with a small torch or candle and press them into a sheet of wax.
This is also a great way to test primers.
Small rifle primers are the same power as small pistol primers, only with thicker and harder cups. Despite this, they aren't safely interchangeable with small pistol primers for the same reason that different brands of small pistol primers aren't safely interchangeable with each other, or even different production batches of small pistol primers of the same brand. Because for safety, components that aren't as identical as possible aren't safely interchangeable.
>Is my gun going to explode?
no, your gun will probably be fine firing them, so long as you didn't do anything dumb and lighten your hammer spring or something.
>just accidentally made 150 .38 special rounds for my revolver with small rifle primers because I am retarded. Is my gun going to explode?
Unless you are using a really cheap RG type pistol, or a 1800s black powder pistol, then you are fine.
.38 loads from a manual are around 18,000psi and really anemic on purpose. A SRP might increase pressure at most 1000 psi if even that. No worries dude. You could go up to 22,000 for .38 Spc safely even in older revolvers.
>Unless you are using a really cheap RG type pistol
>Arminius
he is using a cheap saturday night special tier gun. its not as horrible as an rg but its down there