Slovenia sending more tanks than Germany

>https://english.sta.si/3083185/slovenia-and-germany-agree-on-military-vehicle-exchange-with-ukraine

Slovenia to send 28 of their M-55S. Pic related. Say something nice about them.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're sending more tanks than the US, UK, France too. Because all tanks/IFVs Ukies got so far are slavshit crap.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Because all tanks/IFVs Ukies got so far are slavshit crap.

      And it's making a difference.
      You know what isn't making a difference? Putting a fucking yellow/blue flag on your embassy and Twitter Ministry of Defence, while doing fuck all and sending ZERO tanks.

      Fuck off back to Moskva Olaf.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well, they are trained to work with them
      abrams is useless for them if they can't maintain and use it same goes with planes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yet they're able to operate PzH's a high fire rate tracked SPG without too many issues...

        I'm just hoping that maybe that Abrams academy in Poland is there to actually prepare Ukies for some flood of M1s

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Coco best girl

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        is she made of cheese?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Light tanks like the t55 have Thier role where they are useful

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Because all tanks/IFVs Ukies got so far are slavshit crap

      Canada sent them 40 brand new LAV 6's a couple months ago.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      And that's somehow worse than not sending any tanks?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're only prolonging Ukraine's suffering
    The Germans are smart and have realised Russia's victory is inevitable and believe when this is all over you don't want to on Putin's bad side especially this winter 🙂

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia's victory is inevitable

      Hardly looks that way right now, though. Ukrainians are even getting numerical superiority, and Russia still hasn't mobilised.

      Only real advantage Russia has is bigger air power, but they seem unable to exploit it. Unless Russia mobilises, or something else dramatic happens, Russia will lose outright.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man, you sure could've fooled me with the way things are going. Kharkov was only a feint, right comerade?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      And this is why Sholtz told putin to capitulate on ukraine's terms, right?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Shhhhh, don't go against the narrative!

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >slightly modded T-55
    Is this a joke? Do you want us dead or what?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If those are bolted ERA panels than this thing is pretty well protected against the few working ATGMs the Vatniks still have.

      It's just a good, reliable girl. Plus aesthetic af.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >According to Slovenia this ERA provides the following protection levels:

        >(1)Over an arc of 50° left and right from RPG-7 HEAT warheads

        >(2)Over an arc of 40° against HOT HEAT missile warheads

        >(3)Over an arc of 30° against TOW HEAT missile warheads

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Burning inside an iron coffin must be aesthetic too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It has a radio and night vision optics.
      That already makes it better than every single vehicle in LNR/DNR hands and most in Russian hands.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >night vision optics.

        Not only that, it's the GOOD kind of night vision too, not the 1940s tier infrared active reflectors that the Vatniks STILL use even on their newest upgrades like the T-72B3, because the commander didn't get a thermal viewer so he's still using a shitty ass active IR periscope.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've been playing some GHPC lately, to be honest I wouldn't wish my foe to be stuck with active IR with no thermals against something that has thermals

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is this thing any good?

      Idk, seems that slovenians replaced and upgraded a LOT of things in it - http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1398.html

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol it's more advanced than the T-90M. Hope we get kino light tank action.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In terms of optics, yeah. But it's still stuck with a T-55 chassis, some basic ERA, and a 105mm gun.

          I wonder, does the US have any Cold War era 105mm DU sabots left to give Ukraine?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            IIRC French ammo is compatible with L7A1 guns, and the French still have some stuff in their warehouses (the 10RC uses a 105mm gun).
            Now, of course, whether Macron will do the needful and provide it, is another matter.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lip stick on a pig

        maybe should convent T-55 hulls to something completely diff, like auto-mortar or howitzer SPG.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's Kangaroo time

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I get what you're saying but in the total absence of any mobile direct fire support any tank is welcome, even a Slovenian t55. At a certain point value to have a self propelled gun, if you don't have enough to go around.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          At this point they're going to be used as STUGs and they'll be able to deal with shitty Donbass trenchlines and T-62s with nonfunctional turrets

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >us
      go and die in a trench already hohol why are you posting here lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe, ruskipig.

        ukranon will dance on your shallow grave, mark my words lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Beggars can't be choosers

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        based. Fight in Allah's fleet of Toyota Hiylux's and you cannot loose.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The gun has been upgraded from the standard 100 mm soviet to the L7 105 mm nato with fully stabilized sights. automatic leading of the target, night sights, the armor has been upgraded by rafael and ERA panels have been fitted, plus they mounted an laser irradiation detector and warner system that can alert the crew if it detects a pulsed alser from a laser illuminator/designator (360 coverage). It's not much but they can fuck up BMPs, BMDs and the older T variants with it. Plus it looks fucking cool.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
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          Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't they also donate some of their M-84S? Seems like Slovenia is donating all of their ex-Yugo crap, are they getting anything in exchange?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For 28 M-55S, Slovenia is getting 35 8x8 german logistic transports and 5 8x8 water cisterns - note that Slovenian army is doing civilian rescue in peacetime.

      Not a bad deal. Tanks in Slovenia can't really shine, because of mountains and woodlands.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Slovenia like Slovenia, always brown-nosing into Germany's ass.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shut up, Serb fucking shit.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only think I know about Slovenia is that your rockclimbing are incredible.
    How to get qt Slovenian climbing gf?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're outdated, but still better than fucking transports in return. It's idiotic.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It looks adorable, I love it. Has similar lines to the Crusader.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Excellent taste my friend

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So? Why should Germany send any tanks?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Yurpeon tanks exist purely to fight Russia. There's no reason to hold them in reserve, it's not like Russia is capable of opening another front.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why should Germany send any tanks?

      Good question. As a strategic economic ally of Vladimir Putin, the Germans should proceed with what they are doing now, and offering empty posturing and finger wagging while providing no assistance.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Because all tanks/IFVs Ukies got so far are slavshit crap.

        And it's making a difference.
        You know what isn't making a difference? Putting a fucking yellow/blue flag on your embassy and Twitter Ministry of Defence, while doing fuck all and sending ZERO tanks.

        Fuck off back to Moskva Olaf.

        seriously, why don't you just have a nice day? your butthurt is terminal and incurable

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bonus: the list excluded all the brand new tanks and other vehicles Germany is going to deliver to countries like Poland for giving their old soviet stuff to Ukraine.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So basically 10 guns, and the rest is just moral support kinda stuff like blankets and helmets and Gepards.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >moral support kinda stuff like blankets and helmets
            Jesus Christ you're retarded

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            "Moral support kinda stuff" that is as vital for an army to work in the field as any tank or gun or missile.

            Also, [email protected] trying to shit on the Gepard when the Ukies themselves have singled them out for having done vital work covering the Kharkiv offensive. Some real butthurt poolack vibes you go t there.

            Poles as society collected more humanitarian aid than things that are listed here with your fucking GDP you should be on first 3 or 4 countries that are helping.

            Uh huh. "Poles as a society" colelcted a cool ~800 million Euros worth of stuff to send to Ukraine. Sounds like butthurt poolack buillshit to me.

            Fun fact: Germany is in fact "on first 3 or 4 countries that are helping" in terms of overall monetary value of what they've sent. So kindly STFU.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Also, [email protected] trying to shit on the Gepard when the Ukies themselves have singled them out for having done vital work covering the Kharkiv offensive

              Oh, how many confirmed kills does it have? That's right none, and the kind words were just a way to say "thanks" for the symbolic support.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh, how many confirmed kills does it have? That's right none
                Post source

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Prove a negative

                Nah cunt, why don't you prove a positive instead.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Germany is in fact "on first 3 or 4 countries that are helping" in terms of overall monetary value of what they've sent. So kindly STFU.

              Compared to other countries it's a tear drop in ocean. You are simply mad because you were licking putin asshole for so long doing everything he asked for to make sure he won't close NS2/1 and yet after all he asked if it was delicious and closed both of them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Poles as society collected more humanitarian aid than things that are listed here with your fucking GDP you should be on first 3 or 4 countries that are helping.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Germany is not Putin's economic ally! They're his vassal.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Germany is an US vassal you tard. NATO was explicitly founded against Germany. A Russo-German alliance is Washington's worst nightmare. Luckily for them Putin made sure it won't happen.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      To fend off the vatnik threat to civilization. You being a vatnik understand why your people should be butchered for defiling my precious PrepHole with your drivel.

      I enjoyed watching the Soviet Union implode and watching NeoSoviets die in return for upgrading Western systems is icing on the cake. You asked for this by defiling PrepHole so now PrepHole has better equipment than your remaining troops.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As Slovenian I am only hopping, that they will be stripped of electronics and than used as decoys. I see no other use for that tank

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If thats all you see in a tank you don't know much about warfare. Tanks have many more missions than gayy 1v1 armored duels and night vision can assist other systems. The trouble with tankspergs is all they know are numbers.

      If it drives and shoots and kills gopniks that's all it needs to do.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >anon got triggered by being asked if he really polish in the other thread and was too scared to be honest after all the larping so he left the thread and immediately opened this one
    Amazing.
    How butthurt are you? lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can someone check if the oddly aggressive acting "slovenian" in this thread is actual from there?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Slovenia is going to receive Leopard 2s, Pumas and Boxers as compensations for those tanks from Germany.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Liar.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordpress/2022/08/24/germany-and-slovakia-agree-to-swap-deal-in-effort-to-aid-ukraine/
        >Germany and Slovakia Agree to Swap Deal in Effort to Aid Ukraine
        >The governments of Germany and Slovakia agreed to a deal on August 23 under which Slovakia will send its Cold War-era armored fighting vehicles to Ukraine, with Berlin providing the Slovak armed forces with Leopard 2 main battle tanks in return.

        >In this instance, Slovakia will provide 30 tracked BVP-1 infantry fighting vehicles to Ukraine while receiving 15 Leopard 2 tanks in A4 configuration in return.

        That simply is a pretty sweet deal.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Slovakia

          Anon...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            see

            https://www.total-slovenia-news.com/politics/9907-slovenia-sending-tanks-to-ukraine-in-weapons-swap-with-germany
            >Slovenia Sending Tanks to Ukraine in Weapons Swap with Germany
            >According to dpa's sources, Slovenia will send Soviet-made T-72 tanks to Ukraine, while Germany will give Slovenia German-made tanks and APCs from the country's own stock.
            >The sources say that, in line with the agreement, Germany will give Slovenia Marder and Fuchs APCs, while Slovenia is said to have asked for more modern weapons, including Leopard 2 tanks and Puma and Boxer APCs.

            Slovakia is also just another country getting good stuff from germany for providing their old soviet stuff to Ukraine.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Slovakia, my man, slovakia.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          we're getting regular army trucks from germany for this deal, supposedly.

          slovenia isnt slovakia bro

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >slovenia isnt slovakia bro

            But why not?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well if we were same we would be called the same.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Slovakia already calls itself Slovenia

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, it calls itself Slovensko.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Slovakia, my man, slovakia.

            >Slovakia

            Anon...

            It was just the first of the three countries in the google search for the german exchange, chill.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And it was still a lie.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >https://www.delo.si/novice/slovenija/ljubljana-in-berlin-se-ne-moreta-zediniti-glede-oklepnikov-za-ukrajino/
                >When asked by the correspondent of RTV Slovenija how far they are with the agreement, the spokesman of the German Ministry of Defense explained that the talks are ongoing and until they are concluded
                Talks are still ongoing, stop being so disingious, also Slovenia are sending fucking M-55S and you whine about ancient tech.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                M-55S is probably the most advanced T-55 in the world, but it's still a T-55. Definitely better than the T-62s Russia is fielding, though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are the one being disingenuous you lying cunt. Maybe you shouldn't spread false information if you don't want to be called out for it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >didn't mention ongoing talks
                >just shits out some link in slovenian without any further explanation
                vatnik tier behavior

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >wahhh scary languages
                Your browser almost certainly has a button to translate the entire page, you're just too lazy to read.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's not my job to show what i said, it's your job to look it up
                like i said, vatnik tier behavior

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Spoon feed me harder daddy
                moron tier behavior tbqh

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                well you are wrong
                source: google
                go look it up

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The "ongoing talks" are from May. And the newest detail on the deal is sending the M-55. So it's safe to assume that these talks resulted in the M-55 for trucks instead of M-84 for APCs. While your claim was Slovenia is getting Leopards, Boxers and Pumas, which weren't even offered HAD the deal even have gone through.

                Idiot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He’s polish. They unironically thought they are going to be the leaders of Europe and are now butthurt that Germany is pushing Europe to give out USSR equipment for primarily USSR equipment users, and now also selling them stuff.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Looks more like another vatnik to me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or maybe I just hate disinformation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Laško al union prjatu?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ne pijem prjatu. Ampak Union. Inb4 Ljubljanski ćefur podpira Ruse trolololo

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To je za gugl translate blo. Btw laško je boljše.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that why you link outdated articles without citing anything and then act all smug when something outdated gets cited out of it? You were knowingly spreading something that's wrong now, so you were spreading disinformation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                First of all, the article claimimg the Leopard trade cited "unnamed sources", which is suspect in and of itself. The Delo article then quotes Der Spiegel who quoted acquired documents that the negotiations are still ongoing because Germany is offering old APCs, and not Boxers, Pumas or least of all Leopards. That was in May and nobody gave an update on any deal until now. Which is old tanks for logistic trucks.

                A normal person from this can gather the news lied, illiterate shit repeated a lie, then doubled down on the lie because either he's a smug German who actually believes the bullshit they're feeding him, or he's embarrassed because he's illiterate. Maybe both.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That was in May and nobody gave an update on any deal until now.
                A normal person would have posted an article of this deal from the start, but you decided to be an ass and posted and outdated article and later whine about when someone cites it. Still waiting on that article.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He’s polish
                Kek, polish like that one from the pzh2000 threads that fucked off right after people asked him to prove his polish
                Most likely a vatnik

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm going to tell you wants going to happen; both sides will bitch and moan for a while, it will take some time, but eventually Germany will deliver shit and you will be nowhere to be seen to apologies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Deliver what?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see link in

                Meanwhile in reality what was offered for the M84s were Marders and Fuchs. So the M84 isn't getting sent at all as of this moment.

                https://www.delo.si/novice/slovenija/ljubljana-in-berlin-se-ne-moreta-zediniti-glede-oklepnikov-za-ukrajino/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you retarded?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What? Dropping a link not good enough anymore?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What did you think the link was for?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                >Spoon feed me harder daddy
                moron tier behavior tbqh

                >wahhh scary languages
                Your browser almost certainly has a button to translate the entire page, you're just too lazy to read.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You quoted this:

                You are the one being disingenuous you lying cunt. Maybe you shouldn't spread false information if you don't want to be called out for it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Does the article mention ongoing talks? Does the text mention different options?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You fucking dumb shit, if talks are ongoing, how ca what the deal is?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *can you state

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My dad works for Nintendo Slovenia. He's involved in the talks and he told me they're not going anywhere

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Answer it:
                >Does the article mention ongoing talks? Does the text mention different options?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it does. Back in May. Today we see what came out of these talks. M-55 for trucks.

                Where's the M-84s for Leopards?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >well, it's not in the article and i also didn't provide any source for it, but...
                Go choke on a dick, vatnik. This whole discussion could've been two posts, but you keep dragging this out for no good reason.
                I'm done with you, go find someone else that thinks you aren't a retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >oh shit, somebody pointed out I'm lying! Better double down on it

                It could have ended had you admitted a mistake rather than doubling down on the lie. So the only conclusion is you're doing it on purpose now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >xaxa, the source i provided was not only shat out by me with no translation or highlighting my claim, but it also was outdated. Gotcha!
                Then you will have no problem finding someone to talk to you, disingenious piece of shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shut the fuck up illiterate lying piece of shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or maybe I just hate disinformation.

                Are you even from Slovenia? Because i fucking doubt it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Puši kurac.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >literally writes two words
                >"that'll do"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jebi si mater pizda lažniva.

                I have more if you want.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                confirmed serb
                Here are some authentic Slovenian swear words.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can confirm. Bongland expat, It's my base of operations for the last twelve years. Apparently it's overrun with Serb expats in some cities, so that explains a minority that supports Russians here. Majority is decidedly against Russians since the WW2, that includes regular commies as well.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nažri se dreka. Popolnoma po slovensko. Nihče ne uporablja tistih izrazov in to dobro veš.

                Peder.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It could have ended had you admitted a mistake rather than doubling down on the lie. So the only conclusion is you're doing it on purpose now.
                Okay, you purposefully posted an old article, which didn't even stated anything to the contrary only to later reveal, that it's outdated and something else happened in the meantime and by the way you didn't even post a source for that claim to this point, and you now have the audacity of calling others liars and claiming they are doing it on purpose? Yeah, you wanted this discussion to fail from the very start and have it end in shitflinging.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe don't spread lies then. If somebody calls you a liar, you might want to look into why instead of countering immediately with a "proof" that you're not.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *can you state

                They are talking about what would be appropriate for both sides to be send, not if they doing it or not, you lying piece of shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Slovenia is going to receive Leopard 2s, Pumas and Boxers as compensations for those tanks from Germany.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron Slovenia is a literal who country. G*rmany, like Fr*nce, act like they are important and spam LOOK AT WHAT WE SENT meanwhile they haven't done much of anything. Top 3 most useful remains US, UK, POL. Even the smaller Baltic countries cleaned house to send shit to Ukraine. Krauts and Frogs should have wiped each other out in WW2.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Butthurt poolack detected. Get back to scrubbing those toilets, you're not being paid to put schizoid shitposts on PrepHole.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Slovenia thread
                >balkan shits start flinging shit at each other
                someone should irradiate this piece of shit balkan shithole for all eternity
                t. slovenian

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can you please do this

            Can someone check if the oddly aggressive acting "slovenian" in this thread is actual from there?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Laško al union?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.total-slovenia-news.com/politics/9907-slovenia-sending-tanks-to-ukraine-in-weapons-swap-with-germany
        >Slovenia Sending Tanks to Ukraine in Weapons Swap with Germany
        >According to dpa's sources, Slovenia will send Soviet-made T-72 tanks to Ukraine, while Germany will give Slovenia German-made tanks and APCs from the country's own stock.
        >The sources say that, in line with the agreement, Germany will give Slovenia Marder and Fuchs APCs, while Slovenia is said to have asked for more modern weapons, including Leopard 2 tanks and Puma and Boxer APCs.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Meanwhile in reality what was offered for the M84s were Marders and Fuchs. So the M84 isn't getting sent at all as of this moment.

          https://www.delo.si/novice/slovenija/ljubljana-in-berlin-se-ne-moreta-zediniti-glede-oklepnikov-za-ukrajino/

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And more:
        https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/09/02/berlin-continues-to-give-leopard-2a4-tanks-15-go-to-prague/
        >Berlin continues to give Leopard 2A4 tanks, 15 go to Prague
        >The Ministry of Defense of the Czech Republic Natalia Forsterova announced that the agreement between Berlin and Prague has been signed. According to her statement, the 15 tanks that the Czech Republic will receive are already being modernized in Germany for the needs of the Czech army.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I got to admit i was technically wrong with , but at the same time it was only a minor error because they were still getting the tanks, they are just traded for other tanks. But he fully exploited this situation with his post here

      Liar.

      .
      He didn't said "hey, that's not quite right, the tank trade is for the next batch." Instead he just screamed liar and did nothing to explain what's actually going on.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Croatia send it's M84's? They are in NATO and it would be a good way to get some western tanks in return. Would also be interesting to see how it fares against Russian T72 types.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Croatias president is basically pro Russian lol, also balkanoids are very bitter people who dont empathize with anyone and feel no need to send help to other countries if there isnt anything in it for them. Slovenians are the exception.
      t. balkan mutt

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't the presidential position in Croatia mostly a legislative one? I vaguely remember that the prime minister has power over foreign policy and military matters.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is, he really has no power. But its a reflection of what a large portion of Croats believe (contrarian isolationism / "neutrality"). Hell even Bosniaks are overwhelmongly pro ukraine while distristing the west.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          don't listen to this retard,

          Croatias president is basically pro Russian lol, also balkanoids are very bitter people who dont empathize with anyone and feel no need to send help to other countries if there isnt anything in it for them. Slovenians are the exception.
          t. balkan mutt

          he has no idea what he is saying
          the reason Slovenia can senf their tanks is becuase they don't have any interest in the shitshow that is called Bosnia, and they don't share a border with Serbia. Though I do agree that this is a great oportunity for us (Croatia) to get rid of out yugo gear and get our hands on some NATO weapons, due to our local geopolitical surroundings, we can't really risk being disarmed for a few months untill we wait for NATO tanks/APC's to arrive

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >can't really risk being disarmed for a few months untill we wait for NATO tanks/APC's to arrive
            jel to stvarno mislis da bi se neki sukob desio? Ja licno ne mogu pomisliti da bi mi zapoceli ista, jedino ako bi vi presli granicu da "zaštitite hrvate" od majorizacije bi doslo do nasilja. A kad gledam demografsku situaciju to mi se cini malte ne nemoguće. Ko će ratovat? Boomeri?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Uvijk se nađe budala za ratovat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair point, mozda mi je ipak bila malo naivna poruka. Nadam se da neće nikad do toga doći, pogotovu ne protiv vas.
                Znam da vi baš niste oduševljenji sa Bosnjacima ali ja sam uvjek volio Hrvate i Hrvatsku.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We're in a bit of a pickle. Simply put, the whole damn country is fully backing Ukraine because of our experiences with the Serbs. This whole thing is just like what Serbs tried to do to us and Bosnia in the 90s. The problem is exactly that - Serbia and Bosnia. Serbia is becoming more and more unhinged and there's a huge political struggle in Bosnia which is depriving Croats there of their political and cultural rights, representation in government and so forth. Slovenija doesn't have any of these issues and can afford to "gamble" even from a purely economic standpoint, because they're richer.

      While it's true our president seems to back Russia in some aspect, it's also true everyone considers him a retard because of it and he has no legislative power whatsoever. The actual country, be it the people or the decision making government, is fully on board with Ukraine. But we are neither rich nor heavily armed. We've started to slowly upgrade or buy new gear prior to all of this, be it from the Americans or the French, but the economic issues prevent us from going gung ho on this and doubly so because our neighbors are completely out of their fucking minds. Croatia must not and will not allow itself to be caught weaponless. If for instance Germany gave us Leopards or someone else did whatever like, NOW and not years into the future I'm willing to be our gov would send our tanks to Ukraine. But we can't afford to have most of the country go up in flames if Serbs or Bosnians start some shit.

      And yes we did send stuff to Ukraine already and we're taking in their refugees. I have a couple of families living in my apartment block. They are all quite welcome. The rest is just misjudging Croatia's abilities and expecting the unreasonable while we're seeing the same kind of genocide rhetoric coming from Serbia like it did in 1991, and only god knows WTF Bosnia is trying to pull.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and only god knows WTF Bosnia is trying to pull.
        bosniaks are trying to recreate RBIH "gradanska drzava" ideal by spiting croats out of politics (this is a really dumb idea).
        Serbs are simply trying to disintegrate Bosnia to achieve independent RS / velika srbija. Croats are trying to keep some degree representation while simulatniously attempting to disintegrate the nation and return HRHB (or at least paying lip service to the idea). At least thats my interpetation as a not very well informed bosnjo. Then again it could all be an attempt to get nationalist points before the elections gain, time will tell. I honestly just want bosniaks to stop voting for Komsic and at make an attempt at some sort of compromise / normal relations with the croats, im sure we could find something that will make both sides happy without going as far as making a treci entitet.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          bro they 7% fuck them man. They allowed themeselves to become a minority when even a small portion of our population can outvote them yet they want 33% of political power. They signed the deal and now they just pissed they cant exploit it with apartheid tier laws where their vote is worth 17 bosniak or srb votes. They need to accept reality and there should be no compromise with them

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >break away from country
        >"what will be the best way to diffuse this?"
        >"larp as the ustase and start arresting serbs!"
        Every one of you balkanoids are morons but Croatians are worse than Serbs about pretending like the 90s were this totally unexpected outcome. The moment you rolled out that checkered flag you knew what would happen, peace was off the table before the cloth was even set.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >serbs set up roadblocks and start taking potshots at croat police
          >NOOOO U CANT ARREST ME I DINDU NOTHING
          nema vecih crncuga na balkanu

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The moment you rolled out that checkered flag
          We've been using it since the 10th century.

          I don't care about Serbian "outrage" or your opinions. You're Russia's lapdog and your entire country has made all the wrong choices, and you're paying for that now in a purely geopolitical sense. Your future is a product of your own bad choices, and since Russia is done I'm assuming you'll become China's bitch. LARP all you want about your "greatness" and so on. You have learned absolutely nothing, and you seem incapable of learning anything. We don't think about you as anything more than a town drunk or something like that sort, a liability at our border, a nuisance.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's interesting how similar serbs and vatniks are in their delusions of grandeur vs reality and in their inability to learn from past mistakes.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Still find it funny that Serbia thinks themselves the true Yugoslavs and that they're the real inheritor of Tito's legacy when he was a Croat.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Nice essay brate

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        dobro napisano brate, poz iz slo

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >t-55 cosplaying as a western tank
    incredibly adorable I want one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Slovenia tried to sell them, but only received one offer for a single tank, that was sold for 820k$.

      I think you could actually buy one.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better than nothing, I guess.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    probably better than an asu85

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    greece will gift BMP-1

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Slovenia is to send 28 M55S tanks to Ukraine and receive 40 German-made transport vehicles in exchange.
    If these 40 APCs are Marder1 then they would be more useful to the Ukrainians than T55s

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      No, we ar getting transport vehicles as in logistic trucks, not as in APCs.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it already has a cross very thanks greece fren

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is that brown stuff rust or part of the camo, I genuinely can't tell

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One thing I never see mentioned is that the FCS is the same as the one on M-84 just programmed for the 105. It's the Israeli L7 variant sadly I'm not sure what specific ammo the Ukies will get with them. The commander also has acces to the gunners optics and can controll the turret/gun with his own joystick, also it has a LWR but it only shows the direction of the laser nad can be set to automatically launch smoke grenades.
    Honestly the only thing I'd swap is the engine other than that it's great for anything other than tank-tank fights

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck with your precious Abrams? I bet the next move will be sending a modified T-37 from Thailand or so.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany wont send Leos because when they get BTFO by Russians that will end sales of Panzers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Germany wont send Leos because when they get BTFO by Russians that will end sales of Panzers.
      So the US not sending Abrams has the same reason then?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >b-b-but thats total aid
    stfu pole

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >commitments
      lmao, now post real numbers

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you want the entire wikipedia page, agian? Like in the last million threads you abandoned quickly after?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >heh, i hope no one in this thread notices what a retard i am
        >*posts*
        >shit, already too late

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Committments *are* the real numbers, you absolute turbomoron.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Other countries wouldn't be able to send more tanks than Germany if Germany didn't replace the shit they sent. By doing this, Germany accomplishes many things:
    >Modernizes the armies of nations who send their old Soviet crap
    >Sends the Soviet crap to Ukraine where Ukrainians can make use/dispose of it
    >Makes a difference without truly angering the few pro-Russian politicians still in government
    >Lets Germany send things when they're ready, since they have to produce what they've promised from scratch

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >T-55
    i guess a tank is better than no tank, but still, geez

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Slovenia sending more tanks than German
    >only sending tank because germany gives them better replacements

    sooo.... its just Germany supporting Ukraine with more ring trades. and Slovenia garden gnomeing for upgrades and dropping the Yugoslav-made M-84 tanks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      T-55's

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only sending tank because germany gives them better replacements
      A truck is a better replacement for a tank? Is this the Trudeau school of thought? If you kill your enemies they win?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        These T-55's got completely refurbished and then mothballed because we had no other option at the time and there was a real danger of balkan war coming to us. Quite literally unused since we had enough M-84's. As such , trading them for actually usable 8x8 while someone might get some use out of them is a good deal.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't disagree with part of the assessment, the tank is old and not really suitable for engaging modern tanks. However it is still usable as a mobile pillbox with a cannon. And as we can see in Ukraine, you need massive reserves of whatever you can find to actually continue fighting. But good luck telling that to our schizoid defense department.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >old and not really suitable for engaging modern tanks
            I mean it depends on how good the 105mm APFSDS we provide Ukraine is, but Russia is deploying a lot of tanks like T-72As and T-62s that would be vulnerable to it. And that's not mentioning the BMPs, BMDs, BTRs etc the M-55S can easily kill and which can't easily kill the M-55S.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well yes. That's why it could have still been useful to us as well. At the very least traded for weapons instead of logistics trucks. How about upgrading at least a few Patrias with the heavier weapons and turrets it was supposed to have.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Apparently they're already used on the frontlines.

            >It could have ended had you admitted a mistake rather than doubling down on the lie. So the only conclusion is you're doing it on purpose now.
            Okay, you purposefully posted an old article, which didn't even stated anything to the contrary only to later reveal, that it's outdated and something else happened in the meantime and by the way you didn't even post a source for that claim to this point, and you now have the audacity of calling others liars and claiming they are doing it on purpose? Yeah, you wanted this discussion to fail from the very start and have it end in shitflinging.

            Picture is from the previous batch. It's fresh news:
            https://www-delo-si.translate.goog/novice/slovenija/slovenija-v-ukrajino-posilja-28-tankov-nemcija-v-slovenijo-tovarnjake/?_x_tr_sl=sl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sl&_x_tr_pto=wapp

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The two countries agreed some time ago that Slovenia would donate its more modern M84 tanks to Ukraine, and Germany would supply it with its more modern tanks in return, but this agreement has not yet been reached.
              >yet

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Inb4 he claims it's still a lie and he's not a disingenous liar because he left out the part with the M84 tanks and acted like it never was a thing or ongoing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's the third batch. First batch is already on the front, second one is M-55s for trucks. Third batch is M-84 for tanks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, so Slovenia will receive tanks from Germany. Thanks for clearing that up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Inb4 he claims it's still a lie and he's not a disingenous liar because he left out the part with the M84 tanks and acted like it never was a thing or ongoing.

                Maybe your grasp of English isn't that good. But if you say it WILL happen, it means it's a done deal. Which it obviously isn't per what you retards are quoting right now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stop being such a nitpicky sore loser, it's fucking embarrassing. Do you say to everything you will do you try to do it, because you can't be sure if it actually happens and therefor can't say you will? No, you don't, because it's fucking stupid.
                You hide the fact that there is a third batch and it's about tanks and acted like there was only ever a deal with trucks and that's it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Showing again you're illiterate as all fuck. What third batch of tanks? You making shit up as you go? If they're still in talks about whether or not there even will be more exchanges, how can you talk about a third batch of tanks for fuck's sake!

                I got to admit i was technically wrong with , but at the same time it was only a minor error because they were still getting the tanks, they are just traded for other tanks. But he fully exploited this situation with his post here [...].
                He didn't said "hey, that's not quite right, the tank trade is for the next batch." Instead he just screamed liar and did nothing to explain what's actually going on.

                Jesus Christ. Who agreed on this next batch? Where is the source for this?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Showing again you're illiterate as all fuck.
                It's illerate as fuck not illiterate as all fuck.

                And then you turn
                >You hide the fact that there is a third batch
                into
                >What third batch of tanks?

                third batch with tanks =/= third batch of tanks

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Fucking LOL! Irony abounds!

                What third batch with tanks? When did they make this deal?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The one they are currently making and you just happen to withhold to mention, because it fucked your whole narrative, little serb.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You can call me whatever you like, but at least I can actually read.

                Idiot.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Factual wrong, see

                >but this agreement has not yet been reached.
                >yet

                >Showing again you're illiterate as all fuck.
                It's illerate as fuck not illiterate as all fuck.

                And then you turn
                >You hide the fact that there is a third batch
                into
                >What third batch of tanks?

                third batch with tanks =/= third batch of tanks

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                see

                Apparently they're already used on the frontlines.
                [...]
                Picture is from the previous batch. It's fresh news:
                https://www-delo-si.translate.goog/novice/slovenija/slovenija-v-ukrajino-posilja-28-tankov-nemcija-v-slovenijo-tovarnjake/?_x_tr_sl=sl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sl&_x_tr_pto=wapp

                >The two countries agreed some time ago that Slovenia would donate its more modern M84 tanks to Ukraine, and Germany would supply it with its more modern tanks in return, but this agreement has not yet been reached.
                >yet

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Which again just isn't true. In Slovenian the article states the countries were in talks, not that they had reached an agreement.

                "Državi sta se pred časom dogovarjali, da bi Slovenija Ukrajini namenila svoje sodobnejše tanke M84, Nemčija pa bi ji v zameno dobavila svoje modernejše tanke, a tega dogovora za zdaj še ni."

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >but this agreement has not yet been reached.
                >yet

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Factual wrong, see [...] [...]

                >when, who, where did they make the agreement?
                >no agreement yet

                Holy fucking shit!

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >>When did they make this deal?
                >The one they are currently making and you just happen to withhold to mention, because it fucked your whole narrative, little serb.

                They are currently making it and unless you are an autist or some butthurt serb, it's not a complex concept.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You got to be retarded if you think the google translation says anything except they are currently on it. No mention of them stopping it or calling it quits, it's just normal progress we are seeing here. Slow, maybe, but no talk of that just being it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They can be talking about sending nukes to Ukraine for all I care, the point is stop fucking lying about agreements reached and what the agreement is. I know this is PrepHole and lying is the norm these days, but holy shit.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You can pretend all you want it's a lie, but there are talks about it and you didn't even dare to mention it, because it fucks up your whole narrative of there are no tanks coming to Slovenia from Germany.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't mention it because it's a speculative thing you retarded motherfucker. I don't know what they're talking about behind closed doors and what deals they will or won't make. I wasn't addressing any speculations, I was addressing a lie. Stupid fucking illiterate moron shit.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I know this is PrepHole and lying is the norm these days, but holy shit.
                Finally showing your true colors?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >the point is stop fucking lying about agreements reached and what the agreement is.
                This is what you should have done at the beginning:
                >that's not correct, they are currently are trading the old M-55S the for trucks, but there is another batch in the talks with the M-84s and that's about exchanging tanks."
                What you did:
                >Liar.

                And you complain about not liking disinformation.

                I didn't mention it because it's a speculative thing you retarded motherfucker. I don't know what they're talking about behind closed doors and what deals they will or won't make. I wasn't addressing any speculations, I was addressing a lie. Stupid fucking illiterate moron shit.

                >I didn't mention it
                With your own words:
                >So the only conclusion is you're doing it on purpose now.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Again;
                What other batch is in the talks? You know someone in the respective countries' MOD? The prime ministers?

                I said liar because he(you) is spreading lies. It's that simple.

                And again, I didn't mention it because I have no idea if they're even currently discussing it or not. The indication is they aren't, but if you have newer info, please share.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Seriously, the same dumb shit again? Whatever.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, as long as you keep bullshitting, you'll be called out on it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You just gonna keep posting your drivel til i left.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Inb4 he claims it's still a lie and he's not a disingenous liar because he left out the part with the M84 tanks and acted like it never was a thing or ongoing.

              I'm not OP. I'm just confirming that what's written in OP is current news.

              There currently three separate shipments to Ukraine. First one is on frontines. 2nd one is for M55s, third one is M84.

              Here's news for the first batch, btw.
              https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1563202743426482177?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Figured as much later on, the others dude would have never been so honest and admit he was telling bullcrap, leaving out important part of it or that the whole thing was still ongoing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Almost forgot: Big thanks for posting it.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    an dis is from polans donatid to trash air force

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"I have an unknown plane in my sight."
      >"Can you describe it too me?"
      >"Eh..., well, uhm..."

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >>"Can you describe it too me?"
        >>"No"
        Fixed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      these were never in use in poland since nobody but the USSR needed jet-powered crop dusters

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >M-55S
    search first hit

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      and then you listen to what he's saying and it seems actually a decent upgrade for an old chassis? I mean, the shit the ruskies are rolling into ukraine with are several times worse

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can cover the BelaRUSE front.

    Instead of chimping out, we should be happy that Ukraine will have more Vatnik removing hardware at their disposal.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love seeing old cold war tanks being modernized.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    France has hundreds of Leclerc tanks in storage. Why don't they step up and give them to Slovenia or Croatia to enable a swap for Ukraine?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn’t Russia shred it with dumb fire shit?

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At most, I can see this being useful for a second line unit that benefits from the armor but isn't going to use it a lot and so require spare parts in large amounts - say for units guarding the Belarus border. Not enough tanks and too specialized otherwise.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At least i hope media and Sholz not gonna make a big deal about sending a fucking modified T-55...

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From the thumbnail they sorta look like Abrams or K1s

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Say something nice about them.
    Not much. The only good thing is the L7 105mm because the Ukrainians are NATO-supplied.

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >trade away reserve tanks that have been in storage for years
    >receive modern trucks that your military will actually use

    It's a good deal. Slovenia isn't exactly made for tank actions, and it's surrounded on 3 sides by other NATO nations anyways. The Slovenian Army would never be active in combat within their own borders unless the Hapsburgs decide to get uppity again.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >unless the Hapsburgs decide to get uppity again.
      Uppity is what you call a moron or similar slave-caste when they reach beyond their limits, the Habsburgs ruled over most of the relevant parts of the balkan and large swathes of Europe for centuries.
      Though it could be argued they became relevant simply because they were ruled by non-balkanites.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Uppity is what you call a moron or similar slave-caste when they reach beyond their limits,
        Yes. I know. I stand by my statement.

        Remind me, what lands do the Habsburgs rule over now, again?

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >vatnik who usually pretends to be Polish decided to be slovenian today instead
    K lol

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >slav shithole sends slav shithole more tanks than central european country
    ok and?

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Bhahahahahahahahaha
    Sorry but T-54 bodykits are just pathethic

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >L7
      >Pano Commander Optics
      >Heavy ERA
      Not gonna lie, this thing is pretty much ready to eat T-80s as long as it comes with modern darts.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >heavy ERA
        >blazer
        lol
        lmao
        Also that thing is cramped as shit

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          They're all fucking cramped. Just means its an even field. And point granted on the ERA, but as long as they get modern ammo they're good enough until somebody decides to send actually modern vehicles.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >modern ammo
            There's only so much you can do with an L7, most companies have stopped developing anything for it since 120mm has been standard for a long time and the only people still looking to buy are poor people
            These things would do nothing for Ukraine, the already have modernized turret tossers, now sending Leopard 2A7's, that would be something

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Pano Commander Optics
        I don't think it has that. Just the commander can over ride the gunner and see what he is looking at

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Holy FUCK, that is one butthurt Kraut ITT.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Watch it there! You're talking about the saviors of €uropa!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You should have gotten the full image anon.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          My bad.

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >retarded vatniks pretending to be polish fake argue against retarded vatniks pretending to be german
    >They even use the same old vatnik images to make it even more obvious
    >PrepHole still falls for this
    This is only the ~20th thread we had like that. Take that shit to 4chan if you want to talk shit about your least favourite neighbours

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The saw that the "Russia is actually winning" narrative only gets them laughed at so they switched to shitting up the board with/int/ shit flinging

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          yeah it might be that retard from the other german weapon threads but at this point he's barely distinguishable from vatniks anyway
          Both want to just shit up threads

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I wish my country of Romania would send our "tanks" and receive something western in return. But instead we are led by retards PNL is a joke party. Our army will always be a joke, thank god for american protection.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >I wish my country of Romania would send our "tanks"
      Unfortunately, the TR-85 is a special snowflake that requires its own logistical chain, since it has almost nothing in common with a T-55 apart from the gun and ammo.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        If it breaks down just scuttle it, there's nothing useful about this 70 year old Frankenstein tank. Implying there's more than 80 of them anyway we never had more than 300 tanks and not all of them were upgraded.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Rolling gear is fine, it's basically an industrial-espionaged copy of the Leo 1 powertrain, with a few minor tweaks you can perform on the original MTU one as well, and parts are basically interchangeable. If nothing else, they can be used as pioneer/combat engineer vehicles and ARVs.
          But, yes, as a combat tank it's pretty lacking in several respects, and it would cause a logistical nightmare, particularly because no Leo 1s (so you would have at least a modicum of parts commonality) were received by Ukraine.

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The L7 105mm is probably more accurate then anything the Russians have lol

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That's a retrofitted T-55. And the tanks that hohols used in their recent Kherson copefensive were mostly Polish T-72. Looks like NATO has completely ran out of Soviet made armor.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Looks like NATO has completely ran out of Soviet made armor
      More like countries don't want to give away their tanks for free, since they saw what the Poles got for half their entire fleet (nothing).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        theyre getting more Abrams than what they gave away.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >theyre getting

          They're PAYING regular market prices for the Abrams M1A2 SEP v3, the only thing they are GETTING is bumped up in the production schedule.

          Dumfuck

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        awww poor little Poland doesn't get gifted new tanks for their old T-72's and has to pay to modernize their own military, how awful
        you can't pretend to be the most virtuous country on earth, selflessly helping Ukraine, and at the same time demanding your aid gets reimbursed by other countries

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          leo2 debacle has long history in Poland
          - we currently have problems with modernizing and maintaining 250 we have already
          - getting more of old versions we cant source upgrade parts for does not make much sense - especially when Korea can supply 800 modern tanks in the same of shorter timeframe That Germany can supply 40 leo2a4s...

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            you're only getting 180 K2s from Korea until 2025. the 820 K2PLs you orderd will be built in Poland.
            at which point you will notice the same problems you have with the Leo 2PL upgrade, which is also done in Poland

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >which is also done in Poland
              and you happen to know why?

              maybe because the original deal of doing that in Germany was so woefully overtime and overbudget that they have thrown the towel due to insufficient manpower and agreed to just source the parts witch is also very problematic (and according to export license Poland cannot upgrade anything without sourcing it trough original manufacturers...)

              >the 820 K2PLs you orderd will be built in Poland
              and that's the main difference - leo2 is black box that cannot be upgraded - technology or licenses to do anything is not transferred with the tanks..
              while Koreans don't give a shit they let you produce their tanks or modify them as you see fit - just pay a license fee.

              this is not our first cooperation with Koreans ( Krab has Korean chassis - after one we copy pasted from t72 cracked during tests)
              and difference between ease of making changes to German and Korean hardware is unbelievable

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It's almost like the German stuff was purposefully overengineered. Up to the point any upgrade or serious maintenance required blessing from KMW and a few wheelbarrows of money.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The John Deere theory of vendor lock.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >purposefully overengineered
                Nah, that's just shitty design.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If they free up some better tanks while parked on some random border crossing they've done their job

  46. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  47. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >t-55's
    c'mon, give them a REAL tank

  48. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >M-55S
    Made by Ukrainians returning to Ukraine to fight Russians

    Great irony

  49. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    WHERE ARE THE PROMISED M-84???
    Poland have sent their whole t-72 fleet, including PT-91, it seems

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They get sent when germany gives leos

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I know, meaning: long after the war ends.

  50. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They’re sending a “modernized” T-55? The only reason these countries can afford to do this is because the tanks they’re sending are dreadfully obsolete. They’re on par with the shit the Russian reservist/penal units are being issued. They’d be better off just sending more anti-tank weapons instead of arming the Ukrainians with tanks that are death traps.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Slovenia has a laughable stock of at weapons. Tanks are there and apparently they're willing to accept them (as opposed to spanish leo2's)

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      And why would they be better off? Maybe ukrainian Soldiers would be better off, but they are not an important part of the equation.

      awww poor little Poland doesn't get gifted new tanks for their old T-72's and has to pay to modernize their own military, how awful
      you can't pretend to be the most virtuous country on earth, selflessly helping Ukraine, and at the same time demanding your aid gets reimbursed by other countries

      The Poles want freebies and are somehow surprised that after playing the -shit-on-the-krauts card constantly for domestic political gain said krauts are not going to give those freebies. Who could have guessed?

  51. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    shitty tanks beat no tanks

  52. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I kept shitting on the orcs for digging up the T-62, now what?

    How do you counter the inevitable ridicule vatmoron bots are going to inevitably throw in their arguments when this shows up on the front line?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Ironically, that upgraded T-55 is, from a purely functional standpoint, slightly better than a fresh-outta-scrapyard T-62.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The upgraded T55 is a glass cannon that can shoot and kill tanks and bmps. Russias T62s are rusted with no coms thermals or ballistic computer

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          T-62M's have a digital ballistic computer and a laser rangefinder, but it's clunky as fuck, since it was moron-rigged on top of an analog system back in the 80's.

          Pic related, T-62M's laser ranging readout isn't even projected into the gunner's eyepiece, it's a separate box in the crew compartment, so the gunner has to take his eyes off the gunsight to read the range.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I would like to see these babies blow up a T-72 and it gets recorded.
          If T-55 wins Turret Toss olympics it’ll be the funniest thing since Moskva.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      A. """The Bear""" vs a smaller country that used to be them
      B. On paper, these actually have a lot of modern kit in them. New NV, new FCS, Commander override, Laser Warning Receiver etc. Also, a NATO gun, L7 105mm.
      C. These probably won't be suited to the frontline, but could do pretty well for border security. That could free up some more advanced tanks to go to the front.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        We'll see, but the cope narrative has been that the Russians haven't been deploying their best forces all this time, so that's why they have old shit, while the Ukrainian military were already destroyed months ago, and have to deploy teenagers, the elderly, women, moron mercs, NATO aid weapons, so that's why they have old shit.

        The vatnik brain has a mental-gymnastics excuse for everything.

  53. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ukies can use it to train on NATO ammunition and 4-man tanks but other than that it's a deathtrap

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like a recipe for bad muscle memory, because their crew layout is mirrored compared to NATO tanks. On these the loader is on the right, and the gunner+commander on the left.

  54. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >seething polshit thread no.2343423542

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