Slamming the slide on an empty chamber

Can we settle this debate once and for all? hopefully with science and facts.
So what is it /k/? is it just fuddlore or do the components actually experience irregular wear and abuse from letting the slide go with no round?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It certainly loads the parts differently, closing the breech with more energy than when a round is stripped from the magazine. However, modern steels, heat treatments, and finishes can endure it better.

    Don't do it to a vintage 1911, basically. She's an old girl with brittle bones.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuddlore video from the King of the Fudds.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the gun.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

      generally a non-issue and I don't know why so many people piss and shid over it so relentlessly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. If its a Glock it really does not matter, if its a CZ its going to wear the slide stop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. The Kahr manual says to use the slide stop to drop the slide.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A fellow K9 enjoyer?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    meow

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here kitty kitty kitty!

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Antique
    Treat it nicely if you'd like to enjoy it for a long time
    >Something modern
    Beat it up. Who the frick cares? it'll be fine

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It probably does cause increased wear.
    But unless you do it over and over again thousands of times, it’s not really going to make an appreciable difference with modern steels and polymers.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >science and facts
    Do you know where you are?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For a normal gun it's fine but still eh. Something that's been modified with a light trigger is a no go.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine having a gun made out of play dough
    bottom text

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Imagine having a gun made out of play dough
      >posts polymer

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's plastic; polymer doesn't really mean much when wood is an example of one.
        Not that the frame really matters when cheap American steel will peen enough to cause malfunctions when German steel can't even be cut and peening is unheard of

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do not..
    ...cowboy revolver cylinders.
    ...load rounds directly into the pistol chamber.
    ...drop slam slides over empty magazines.
    ...improperly lubricate my guns.
    ...fail to tune the gas system on my ARs.
    ...go for thousands of rounds between cleanings.

    I don't care if you can do these things. All of my guns show almost no signs of wear to the point that people accuse me of not shooting them, don't care.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only thing I'd honestly worry about is the link pin/slide stop marring into the frame. Had a rock island that I wouldn't stop horsing around with and the chamber dinged up the guide block every time I racked it without a cartridge but never payed it any mind as the area of damage didn't interfere with function or bear pressure.
    tldr; don't do it but it'll be fine if you do

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think that problem is only for 1911s, don't know about 2011s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its not 1911 specific its tuned gun specific. think of it this way you have a shaving sharp edge on a knife and you cut a piece of paper with it to prove its sharp. then you repeat that demo 1000 times before somebody actually buys that knife.
      that knife no matter how good it is will still be shaving sharp. it will still cut paper but not hair.

      then youve got some other knife that was never shaving sharp. it cuts paper 1000 times it still cuts paper but cant shave.

      would you argue that the sharper knife was damaged?
      its basically guns tuned to a higher standard dont stay that way after use with no maintenance.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moronic analogy, it has nothing to do with maintenance it's misuse and likely fuddlore anyways

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's 1911s and Hi-Powers
      Someone said CZ too but I think it's specifically the CZ 85 that's weak to dropping the slide on an empty gun

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >is it just fuddlore or do the components actually experience irregular wear and abuse from letting the slide go with no round?
    It certainly wears it, but the level of wear is up to the frequency, type of firearm, and owner. Would I agree that it's generally a good practice not to abuse your guns? Sure, but if it's yours, do what you want with it. It certainly is a careless behavior to over do it, but, again, don't really care, do what you want to do.

    The only stupid thing around this debate are the people in it. So called "fudds" may warn against it or be extremely critical of those that engage in the practice, the "neofudds" (the term I use for the anti-fudds that spread just as much gay shit) are equally annoying. If someone wants to piss and shidd their pants over someone slamming the slide on their gun empty every once in a while, they're moronic. If someone wants to piss and shidd their pants over someone recommending not to do it too much as a good practice, they're also moronic.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can anyone show me the telltale wear pattern of a dropped slide and give me examples of firearms that have failed due to dry racking? If it's such an issue, surely there are thousands of examples of slide drop induced failure.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If your gun can't handle cycling, you should buy a better one.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Almost any striker gun will have zero issues with this. It's primarily a hammer fired issue, where the sear surface can get damaged by the hammer following the slide. It's generally fine on most hammer fired guns with stock service triggers because their sears have a lot of engagement surface and the trigger return spring is stiff enough to hold it in place. You start fricking with the trigger and there's where you'll start having issues, especially if some dumbfrick takes a grinder to the sear surface. The slide itself slamming home isn't going to be an issue, if your gun can't take cycling, your gun was shit to begin with.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The slide itself slamming home isn't going to be an issue
      It is on the BHP (the slide stop is flimsy and eventually breaks) but it was never an issue because of how they were used for decades. Constantly racking and tacticoolly dropping the slide on an empty chamber is a modern thing.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >do the components actually experience irregular wear and abuse from letting the slide go with no round?
    yes

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My glock manual precisely says you can and should use the slide release on an empty chamber for regular maintenance, unloading and dry fire. Guess it's alright then ?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nuh-uh that's a fine motor movement which is le bad

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I sense irony there

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