Sig Sauer found not liable after man sues over accidental P320 discharge which destroyed his testicles.
https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1554152862338400257?cxt=HHwWgoCy5ejyupErAAAA
Sig Sauer found not liable after man sues over accidental P320 discharge which destroyed his testicles.
https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1554152862338400257?cxt=HHwWgoCy5ejyupErAAAA
Taurus intensifies.
Free gender reassignment surgery for siggers, nice!
Dude probably ND'd it. I didn't see much on how it fired. If it was discharged due to a design flaw and not user error, this is bad.
Have you been living under a fricking rock or are you just willfully ignorant?
Why dont the guns cycle when firing?
It is a fake video produced by Glock. P320 hate is just paid shills.
Oh look it's the Sig marketing team!
sig's qc and governmental dealings are suspect as frick
the ceo has backdoor dealings going on and the fbi needs to do something about it
the fbi carries glocks. they should know damn well the sig contact was a sham
cartridge had only a primer in it, no powder + bullet + no hand to push back on (why limp wrist malfs happen) + it was against the floor when it fired
did the guy shoot his nuts off while doing a flying elbow from the top ropes?
There's been at least 2 confirmed 320s that have gone off while not being touched, and not dropped.
>SIGs are possessed
why am I not surprised
post sauce Black person
And the sig cross rifles would go off without being touched, or go off when the bolt was actuated.
Citations needed. I don't mean to sound like an butthole here, but for that to happen, not only did the striker have to slip off of the trigger without the trigger actuating, but the firing pin block had to have moved out of the way as well. If there's a repeatable way for both safety mechanisms to fail, it should be easy to diagnose how that's happening, especially since it's just happening in the holster. So I hope you can see why I'm skeptical.
Barring user error in reassembling the pistol, of course.
There are no citations. It's the eternal Glocktard hateboner for Sig ever since Perfection(TM) lost the military contract for not following the rules and being overpriced.
people attach their egos to the guns they buy. an attack on a gun they own is perceived as a personal attack. this applies to both siggers and glocktards.
it's all really gay.
He's referring to a few cops who claim their 320 went off on its own in the holster and shot them in the leg. But they're cops so most likely they shot themselves doing something moronic and don't want to admit it
No there have not been. There have been about a dozen cases of cops claiming their P320s fired without being touched, most of them were manipulating or wiggling the gun somehow or the guns weren't even holstered. There is literally not a single scrap of evidence that they can fire without being touched. If you believe so then you believe 100 years of copy lying about NDs to avoid paperwork and punishment.
*cops
bro glocks dont go off in the holster no matter how much you wiggle them so why would u ever buy this trash
>bro please buy a glock like me, i desperately need validation
>bro please like the same gun i do
>bro please
i dont even have a glock. i like revolvers
>bro please believe me that it has nothing to with me owning a glock
bro chill
Neither do sigs you dumb frick that's my point. Its always some dumb fricking pig screwing around with the gun or carrying it unsafely. It's never just a gun sitting by itself untouched. God damn I thought that was obvious.
And if you want to start talking about guns going off unintentionally especially while holstering there's a reason its frickin called Glock Leg not CZ Leg or Beretta Leg and it's not sales numbers.
Confirmed by WHO'M!?
Have you been? That was from 2017 and has not been possible since then you utter fricking moron. This would be funny if the irony wasn't so strongly cringe.
The guy bought the gun in 2016. And not every defective gun got upgraded. Some gay in the military had one go off in a desk a few months ago.
Nice special effects moron.
ouch
>sig
>removed his testicles
I'd say it did what it was designed to do. Emasculate the shooter.
this is why you learn to just swipe your damn thumb on the draw, and use a manual safety on anything lighter than a DA trigger
Does the p365 have a light trigger? I carry a p938 wienered and locked, it's hard to imagine a striker fire gun approaches that trigger.
>Does the p365 have a light trigger?
it's a lot lighter than a double action revolver, that's all I know
>Does the p365 have a light trigger?
not really. it's average for a modern striker gun.
light and short
the one i tried had a very squishy trigger
>noooo you need a manual safety on your pistol
hehe glonk go bang bang
stop noticing these cohencidences you're being a bad goy
What's infuriating is how Sig's engineering is 95% there and you can tell their people put honest work into making a good design and product, but corporate wants to cheap out as much as they can get away with during production and then walk it back juuuust enough to satiate the people when they cut too many corners. They really are a gun company done the israelite way. Shame, they really could be THE brand for 21st century weaponry.
>noooo you need a manual safety on your pistol
>posting like this
Go back to plebbit, homosexual.
Glock is practically a double action trigger though
It's got a very predictable trigger. Ive had one bointed at my benis for 3 years running.
every day you point that thing at your dick youre rolling the dice. eventually theyre gonna come up tails.
but my da trigger is only 3-4 lbs with a short pull.
Appendix carriers get filtered by darwinism.
They really don't though.
>t. fat frick
>t. No dick fresh troony
I literally bought one of these two days ago and was going to appendix carry it. What do I do bros
https://sigsauerparts.com/wilson-combat-p320-carry-grip-module-with-manual-safety-tan/
https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-manual-safety-parts-kit.html
probably find the latter on ebay or something, though
Mine came with the thumb safety like in OPs pic it’s the one marked M18 not just p320
you're probably good then, just learn to use the safety so it's mechanically incapable of blowing your dick off when you holster it
Yea the safety is in an easy to reach place, honestly the main reason I bought it over a Glock
Unfortunately not as easy as that. Only certain P320 FCUs can accept the manual safety parts, usually ones that already have a manual safety already. You had to modify the existing FCU to get it to accept a safety.
These guys will do it for you: https://www.abprototype.com/manual-safety-cut/
P365 is different in that all FCUs can accept a safety.
It's moronic but if you have P320 that didn't come with a safety you're probably gonna have to do this in order to get one bar buying an entirely new pistol or FCU.
Never ever holster it when wearing your holster. Once the gun is out of the holster it stays out.
tell me how you're going to ND a gun by putting it back in a holster.
Happens enough, shit holsters, loose fabric, itchy fingers. All can be corrected with proper training, but that shit's for gays according to those people.
What? Are guns the modern day Tyrfing?
Don't pull the trigger while aiming at yourself
the 365 with manual trigger is kino as frick.
i can stick it in my pocket is i want. naked appendix if i want
I agree, keep mine in a leather holster because there's no need for kydex shit when you can just safety it
so funny, this organization literally can't fail and is entirely endorsed by the matrix.
and /k/ will tell you appendix carry without a safety is safe
It is with a DA/SA
how the frick is my single action going off by itself
They shouldn't be liable.
Every non moron knows not to buy sig.
>buy SIG
>loose testicle
Sounds about right. Why people pay money for SIG garbage when there are literally scores of ostensibly better brands out there I will never know.
>loose testicle
>loose
tighten that shit
>buy M&P
>testicles get bigger
many such cases
>post about sig
>dozens of obvious shill posts both for and against
great stuff, this is almost as funny as troonyposting on /misc/
The brandhomosexualry is gonna make me ND into my dome.
Feels good to be a Walther/CZ/Beretta Chad
Well I guess that narrows down my purchasing choice to a Canik.
We did it sigsisters!
>SIG: Fighting the patriarchy one ND at the time
>accidental P320 discharge
So... the guy dicked with the trigger and gelded himself? An accidental discharge is a user error.
A malfunction is the gun's error.
nu-/k/'s hatred of Sig just makes me want to buy one more.
>inb4 some Black person says I'll shoot myself with it
i love my XFive, that dont stop me laughing my ass of at Sig's randomly castrating people
You'll have a nice day with it.
this guy expected a jury to believe his gun magically discharged for literally no reason whatsoever at the exact moment he happened to be taking it out of its holster.
29:37 to 30:00
>unironically linking nutnfancy
lol
lmao
?
Singh Sauer
Meanwhile back at int’l HQ
I’m seeing a lot of posts ITT that are suggesting that Sig actually fixed the “dropsafe” issue from 2017.
They didn’t; the issue is larger than the guns just being not dropsafe, not having any kind of inertial trigger saftey is a massive design flaw. There are a bunch of cases now of sigs discharging while holstered.
>There are a bunch of cases now of sigs discharging while holstered.
[citation needed]
lmao u can really tell who fricked up and bought sigs
[citation needed]
🙂
is peddling bullshit when you've been outed many times the only thing you can do? You've been proven wrong shut the frick up
Explain to me what kind of inertial saftey the P320 features
>So shut the frick up
Imagine sticking the future of your company on this boxy piece of shit
This is kind of a stupid question but is it physically possible for a gun to go off if you have the manual safety enabled? I know the safety blocks the trigger mechanism or something like that but is it theoretically possible for the firing pin to strike a round even if you have the safety on?
There are different types of safeties, trigger, hammer, pin etc. ideally a CC gun has multiple safeties.
What I’m trying to say is a gun with a firing pin safety (like a Glock) will not go off without the trigger being depressed unless the safety itself breaks. Some guns don’t have pin safeties though.
only if its a sig
depends on the gun
a series 70s 1911 can go off even with the manual safety on and the grip safety undepressed. its why they did the series 80s.
there are a bunch of other common exceptions that can fire regardless of safety location.
Is the best way to prevent accidental NDs just not keeping a bullet in the chamber?
yea just carry it cowboy style
Seconds count. Racking could be the difference between life and death.
I ONLY SETTLE FOR THE BEST
P365 is the only Sig worth getting.
p938 is pretty awesome. And all the old school models they make from before they got Cohen'd, obviously.
don't drop those
>nu sig AR
>nu sig knife
Actual living breathing fanboy of a gun company. You are the male equivalent of a female kpop stan.
You missed the Sig Romeo 5 optic and sig Romeo Zero pistol red dot.
funfact:
Do you see the knife's bead lanyard?
The end bead is actually the empty shell of a hollowpoint i happened to have ND'd into my door.
I keep it as a reminder to never frick around with my guns.
And no, the ND was with a glock i was ricing out with a gold barrel.
Im dont even know a glock, if thats what you were implying.
...he says after buying his fourth Glock
refer to
dumbass
>Im don't even know a glock
You sure showed me.
I unironically did, bucko. You made a hasty and moronic post, and it got called out. By ME
>Im dont even know a glock
Only thing you showed me is you're only capable of communicating on a chimpanzee level. I have no idea what the above statement is supposed to say.
Im about to show you my chimpanzee wiener too if you dont shut the frick up, kid
Use your safeties, thumb your hammers. If you have a gun without a safety that doesn't have a hammer, you're dumb but not entirely out of luck. That's a duty gun that has to be used in a large OWB duty holster with your shirt tucked in. The holster is your safety with those type of guns, so it's not a good idea to get a half assed holster that you stuff in your pants. You wouldn't ever buy a rifle that has a 7lb trigger and no safety, or any rifle with no safety, so why buy a handgun with a 5.5lb trigger and no safety that you need to put in a holster? Don't be FRICKING moronic.
>New Hampshire
>jury
If a fricking jury from New Hampshire, who sat through the trail, doesn't believe it's the gun companies fault. It's probably not the gun companies fault.
>Sig nuts
>glock leg
>garand thumb
Frick firearms
https://www.nhbr.com/corruption-in-the-gun-trade-hits-home/
>In 2017, Patricia Hall-Cloutier was directing the export compliance unit of gun producer Sig Sauer Inc. in Newington, NH. Throughout her less than two years at the company, she reported multiple violations of U.S. gun export license laws by Sig officials.
>In June 2017, she noticed an invoice for a license to export weapons to Indonesia with a manually created invoice altering the recipient of the guns. When she reported the violation to her supervisors, she was summarily fired, according to a lawsuit she filed later that year. Two months later, Sig Sauer shipped more than $5 million worth of military weapons, handguns and components to Indonesia, according to U.S. Census Bureau data.
>The diversion of weapons Hall-Cloutier reported was not the first time Sig Sauer had allegedly violated gun export rules. Last year, Sig Sauer CEO Ron Cohen was arrested at the Frankfurt airport in Germany for alleged involvement in an illegal delivery of 38,000 pistols to Colombia between 2009 and 2012. Part of a larger shipment from Sig Sauer’s German parent company to its U.S. branch, the pistols were exported to Colombia for use by National Police, which violated German law because of stipulations about shipping guns to countries with documented human rights violations. Cohen later settled with prosecutors to pay large fines.
>Much corruption within the gun trade is not explicitly illegal. In 2013, Ron Cohen contributed to the campaign of U.S. Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, who sits on the Senate committee that oversees U.S. weapons exports. She subsequently declined to sign on to legislation that would maintain congressional oversight on such exports.
>Sig Sauer CEO Ron Cohen
not surprised in the least.
Heh, government can say all they want, i simply wont comply
>CEO of company doesnt comply
NOOO THE HECKIN ANTI CORRUPTERTINOS YOU CANT JUST NOT LISTEN TO THE EPIC CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT
SIG P320 Drop Test Failure (skip to 1:29)
So did they ever update it after 4 years or are you only able to site works and such from 4 years ago?
I think the question should be did the manufacturer ever fix the issue. That answer would be no.
>Accidental Discharge, Injuries, as Sig Sauer Refuses to Recall Its P320 Handgun
https://thestoddardfirm.com/p320-gun-liability/
>Documented incidents of accidental discharge of the Sig Sauer P320 are considerable. Those involved are often well-trained law enforcement officers or members of the military, individuals who are familiar with firearms. In addition to the accidents specified earlier, others include:
>The discharge of a counterterrorism officer’s Sig Sauer P320 while in its leg holster. The officer (a marine and police force veteran) was sitting in his vehicle, not touching the weapon, when it fired. The bullet went through the car and narrowly missed hitting a pedestrian on the street. (Note: within weeks of this event, the agency for whom the officer worked decided to discontinue use of this weapon.)
>A U. S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer was injured when his P320 fired when he put his hands on the gun’s grip (not the trigger). The officer was training at a shooting range at the time of the accident. The bullet entered his hip and exited his thigh, resulting in considerable injury including nerve damage.
>A law enforcement officer was injured when his Sig Sauer P320 was discharged without his touching it at a crowded high school football game. The officer was injured, but thankfully the surrounding students were not harmed.
>In 2020, a Sig Sauer P320 went off in the midst of a military training exercise in Canada. The soldier, who belonged to Canada’s elite special forces counterterrorism unit, was lucky — he suffered only a flesh wound. As a result of this incident, the Sig Sauer P320 is no longer used by this branch of their military.
I know for a fact that the JTF2 incident was 100% the soldier's fault and the gov withdrew their complaint against Sig. When it happened, Sig asked for the gun and holster so they could investigate and it turned out Canada's Tier 1 SF were using nig rigged holsters for other guns that they had heated and bent to roughly shape the P320. Sig told them to buy decent holsters and to frick off.
Every time one of these incidents happens, you never hear about an end result. Usually because the department/agency quietly retracts it after they fail to offer any evidence beside some moronic patrolman's (who everyone knows is lying) word that "It just went off. I wasn't doing anything."
Yeah I'm gonna need to see some citation for that claim.
Why do all these alleged victims keep picking on this company? Seems like something fishy is going on.
https://soldiersystems.net/2021/02/05/sig-sauer-statement-on-cansofcom-incident/
Basically it was an opportunity to cover up an embarrassing accident for an elite unit and play defense industry politics at the same time. Note Sig hasn't paid shit to Canada and they've let the incident go.
>soldiersystems
>CBC News
>Zig Inc.
No.
People keep going after Sig because admitting one of your officers/agents/soldiers had an ND is a frick ton of hassle. People have to be disciplined, unions get involved, investigations and remedial training all around.
Or... you can say the gun went off by itself and file a complaint that'll look good in the news but end up going nowhere because nobody can replicate the problem. Less embarrassing because it's some company's fault and your guy can get easy no fault medical coverage for his injury.
>even in the hands of trained professionals
it should say "exclusively in the hands of trained professionals"
as Black folk continue to glock themselves in the leg, only pigs and feds happen to come across the magical spicy sig
>throw loaded handgun into a purse filled with various shit
>be surprised when it goes off
Police are already moronic when it comes to firearms, but add on a female officer... Best to stay well away from them.
nice try rabbi
The bore axis on these things are atrocious too. I've tried a lot of these other brands and seriously the glock is just such a better pistol than everything else. The only other handguns I own are revolvers just cause they're fun and I like 357
>le bore axis meme
>praises revolvers
>the glock is just such a better pistol than everything else
lol
By which objective measures exactly?
1 ?
2 ?
3 sig?
4 steyr?
3rd is HK p7
thanks, very collection nice btw
Arsenal Strike One
Hudson H9
lmk when the fanfic is done, sounds spicy!
>Arsenal Strike One
>Hudson H9
never would have guessed these thanks
>felon
>crime is so bad you had to flee the state
>crime is so bad you won't even hint at what it is because "it'll be easy to look you up by the crime alone"
Yep, totally fanfic.
yet he owns guns
Can't you just start another Beretta circlejerk thread instead of spreading your pedophilic bullshit to other threads?
>tamarind jarritos
mi hermano Black
that p7 ugh.
he probably doesnt have the balls to take it to the supreme court
I'll just ignore what ever autism is going on above and ask a question. Can you install a manual safety onto a P320? I know the m17 and m18 already have them, but i'm not a big of that coyote tan or whatever they call it color.
Drop an m17 FCG into a black grip module that has the safety cutout. Add a black slide of your choice.
Bam, black m17 or Safetied P320, patato patata.
Ugh, but the slides are so expensive. Slides in general are so expensive.
I really like the idea of the modular handgun system but I don't like striker guns and I don't want to buy a gun known for NDing of its own will. Do you think they'll ever figure out how to do the same thing with a hammer fired action?
Hello fellow kings/testicle havers
looks like the finish is shedding spike proteins
haha what a stupid goy
didn't the 320 STILL pass all safety requirements in that configuration?
I think multiple handguns have gone through safety updates too.
I sent mine back in for the voluntary free update though.
However......frick Sig Mags the followers wore out and I had to plastic weld the mag catches back into shape
>Guay
Asians are either the most proficient with firearms or the most incompetent. There is no in-between.
Reminder that this is the company that will provide the new service rifle and 80k psi ammo for the US army. Wonder how many grunts are going die once they start issuing the XM5.
>Wonder how many grunts are going to die
Hopefully all of them.
Given how moronic people are today and how they can't even follow instructions on a shooting range, there will be deaths no doubt.
It has a safety how the fk did this reject shoot his nuts, my moneys on drunk, high or dinndu.