there's nowhere to put the shells, because 80km of the front line is in range of HIMARS, dumbass
reading is good, but only if you understand what you read
>He doesn't know about the narrow corridor the Russians were forced to store and stage from on the coast due to the umbrella created by HIMARS
You morons are so painfully fucking ignorant.
Lmao, what a lying piece of zigger scum
He is being sarcastic and, in fact, literally cries that Sibselmash factory, which is a part of military-industrial complex, is to be shut down and transformed into some kind of residential compound, implying that this would only deepen the shell hunger of russian army
https://i.imgur.com/wt65gZx.jpg
He's talking about Puccia closing one of its biggest arty shell factories
I'm trying to sister, but PrepHole jannies are blocking me from deleting the posts. Russophobic nature of these people is known to us. It will not go unpunished.
Wow, so many shells they're running out of space to store them you say? So we can expect to see Russian artillery barrages increase 2x, 5x or 10x in the next few days, right?
Yes, this is definitely going to happen. Just like they kept up the hundred-missiles-a-day spam because there is no shortage, so why not fire a hundred a day?
Gotta love how overtly attached Redditors are to Girkin just because he's critical of Russian performance.
If he made more comments like this they would probably just call him a shill.
>Gotta love how overtly attached Redditors are to Girkin just because he's critical of Russian performance. >If he made more comments like this they would probably just call him a shill.
Both PrepHole and Reddit want to see him in a cell for his warcrimes but whatever else you can say about him, he's quite a rare creature in that he's clearly a bad guy and 100% aligned with killing innocents, conquering Ukraine and genocide and everything but also clearly not a shill.
He's grounded in reality and doesn't truck with propaganda.
TVTropes would call it affably evil maybe. It's something like that anyway.
I'm aware. My point was disputing his role in MH17. The logic that implicates him in that is extremely flawed and sets a bad precedent. For example using that logic means that Ronald Reagan should be tried in the Hauge for the airliner that they shot down in the Persian Gulf but this obviously didn't happen. You cant have both. And in light of recent news it seems that it was actually Putin who was responsible for the shootdown, not Strelkov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin
The guy has a wikipedia page for his crimes.
>using that logic means that Ronald Reagan should be tried in the Hauge for the airliner that they shot down
Add the commanders and politicians who ordered KAL007 shot down too and you have yourself a deal. I'll sacrifice whatever chickens it takes to get zombie Reagan to shuffle into the dock.
Girkin is a bit closer to the MH17 shootdown than Reagan with IR655 and Reagan did make a formal apology. IR655 was just a cluster fuck. Not that the others weren't too.
>sets a bad precedent.
It's literally the Fourth Nuremberg Principle as established by the International Law Commission under the authority granted them by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 177. It's been established precedence for 73 years.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The fourth principle requires an order. There was no order. It also requires said soldiers to be under the accused command in some way but the Buk operators were Russian regulars, not rebels. The only involvement he had in the shootdown was by starting the war months prior, but who escalated it? who sent the soldiers and air defence systems? Who didn't close the airspace? By saying the person who started the war initially is liable for a separate incident involving soldiers of a separate country you can go down this rabbit hole and implicate basically anyone you want who was involved in the war at whole.
It should be very obvious that Strelkov is the fall guy for Putin in this scenario.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Strelkov was in charge of delivering the missile system, and then also with hurriedly sending it back to Russia. >Russian opposition lawyer and politician Mark Feygin posted a purported order by Girkin where he instructs all his men and commanders who "have in their possession personal effects from this plane" to deliver the found items to his HQ so "the valuables (watches, earrings, pendants, and other garden gnomeelry and items from valuable metals)" would be transferred to "the Defense Fund of the DPR."
He was not some uninvolved side character that got scapegoat duty.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Correct. But he wasn't in charge of the specific deployment of the Buk systems that blew the plane up. If they were operated by the militia instead it would be different.
Also you can charge him for theft if you want. The actions afterwards aren't really relevant to the shootdown itself.
>> For example using that logic means that Ronald Reagan should be tried in the Hauge for the airliner that they shot down in the Persian Gulf but this obviously didn't happen.
You're so close, anon. Follow your own logic here.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Americans immediately admitted it and went to court and paid compensation to the victims. The Russians denied it, made fakes and their 'men' looted wallets and credit cards from the wreckage and then used them to scam. They even stole the dead children's toys from the wreck and posed for pictures (see pic).
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Those guys are probably dead by now.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
When you see photos of anyone from DPR armed forces that is a year old, chances are everyone in that photo is already dead.
There's a reason they call him Strelkov and it's not because he's a good shot in a firefight.
His best shooting is at targets that have never held a firearm. That was all in Chechnya but he was the goto-guy for civilian massacres for quite a while.
Also implicated in MA17.
And that's probably the tip of the iceberg because he's been an FSB spook in a bunch of active hotspots for a long, long time.
In this interview to a Russian newspaper he said " But I still pulled the trigger of the war. If our detachment had not crossed the border, in the end everything would have ended, as in Kharkov" (google translate)
https://zavtra.ru/blogs/kto-tyi-strelok
Sure, it may be self flattering but the guy who was one of key figgures behind forcing members of Crimean parliament to come together and vote for "referendum" he certainly wasn't playing second fiddle
>because he's critical of Russian performance
That's what makes him an important source. If someone who is very pro-russian says bad things about Russia you can be quite certain that he doesn't make those things up to make Russia look bad
>just because he's critical of Russian performance.
It's because he's been right about nearly everything since day 1. In fact I remember first reading his updates on day 3 of the invasion saying how FUBAR the invasion was. Meanwhile every other Russian source was pretending everything was still going according to plan. I lost my sides when the Kharkiv frontlines collapsed and every RU milblogger was apologizing to Strelkov for not listening to him.
The houseboats in that picture are probably 98% rentals and timeshares, and I guarantee most of them have master bedrooms that look like the one in picrel. They're floating RVs, not luxury yachts.
Those are rentals you fucking gay. They don't run you much more than a decent hotel stay per night. Seriously suck start a shotgun for being as ignorant as you are. Suffer not the gays like this guy to live.
Not to downplay California's horrible management of water, but that wide angle lens vastly overstates the degree of the May 2021 drought, and the water levels were eventually recovered by 2022
To be fair, you can compare your picture to the third one you're replying to, and you can tell they're not taken at the same time (but in the same place, based on the terrain and bridge), given that the water level is much higher in your picture than in the referenced picture.
Of course, California is a complete shithole, and its total destruction would be a net benefit for mankind, and I say this as someone who absolutely fucking despises russia. If not all of California, at least nuke Hollywood and Silicon Valley. Please.
Lake Oroville, fed by the Feather. Same lake that was threatening to burst it's dam in 2017, causing the use of the Emergency spillway and massive erosion.
Levels dipped that far down in 5 years. Granted, with how much rain and snow we're getting, I expect another use of the spillway this year.
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Not to downplay California's horrible management of water, but that wide angle lens vastly overstates the degree of the May 2021 drought, and the water levels were eventually recovered by 2022
I was just there 2 weeks ago, the water level has recovered. Its going to be raining non-stop for the next few weeks too so probably going to be even higher. Seems the cali drought is basically over.
>drought >a concept in California
both of you are wrong
the natural state of California meteorology is long periods of years with little to not rain, and shorts periods of torrential downpour in a few years that largely resets the water table.
el nino and la nina are the names for the alternating weather systems, and while it does appear a shift from el nino to la nina is starting to happen, that doesn't mean water consumption can increase massively in the region.
Really what's got to happen is farmers there need to stop growing monoculture alfalfa and almonds, especially in near-desert conditions towards the southern end of the Central Valley.
The drought is never over, the standards for the amount of water expected were set during a near century peak of precipitation, on top of Calis’ absolutely buttfuck retarded state gov’t.
t. commieforninan
Californians are so tiresome. They spend half the year complaining about "muh drought" and then the other half going "HELP ME GAVIN I'M DROWNING IN MUD AND RAIN THIS IS TRANSPHOBIC."
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Not to downplay California's horrible management of water, but that wide angle lens vastly overstates the degree of the May 2021 drought, and the water levels were eventually recovered by 2022
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I was just there 2 weeks ago, the water level has recovered. Its going to be raining non-stop for the next few weeks too so probably going to be even higher. Seems the cali drought is basically over.
Same goes for Lake Powell. Shills will say it's "running out of water" but if that's true, then what's all that blue stuff, huh?
The issue is that it has been declining more significantly, and the bounce-back has not been as robust, for many years in a row now. We are also entering an el nino which will produce vastly stronger heatwaves in the region for the next several years. Meaning the water level will decline even further and recover less.
Pic related
thats sarcasm mocking the fact what problem isnt solved yet, at least according to him. on his vk next post after that is link to article about some big siberian ammo plant closing and sarcastic quote "everythings good with the ammo"
>Quoting Strelkov the guy who literally doomposts Russia to hell and back and not even chugtards like him anymore
Kek >That filename >All CAPS
You are probably not even Russian and you are fucking mad. Sometimes I wonder how is waking up and being so butthurted about muh nafo trannies. What a sad existence
Lmao, what a lying piece of zigger scum
He is being sarcastic and, in fact, literally cries that Sibselmash factory, which is a part of military-industrial complex, is to be shut down and transformed into some kind of residential compound, implying that this would only deepen the shell hunger of russian army
Because they are not restarting productions of shells there. Expanding production to meet demand as other countries are doing. That's what I understand from Strelkov post
He's talking about Puccia closing one of its biggest arty shell factories
Jesus Christ, can Ziggers get more pathetic? They should be happy Bakhmut will be abandoned soon (TM) but they still feel need to deceite and lie. Why? What was OP's intention? What did he expect?
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Not compatible. Oscillations within a specific speeds on a plane is relatively normal, for a helicopter that's only hovering, something it does most of the time it's not travelling, it's outright disastrous
He's talking about Puccia closing one of its biggest arty shell factories
>NAFO chudS ON TWITTER TOLD ME RUSSIA RAN OUT SO I REPOSTED IT ON REDDIT AND THEN ON 4CHINS.PNG
Either your IQ was sub-80 before you even went on 4chan or else this is grandmaster bait, in which case, bravo.
All is fine, comrade. New shell production is heretical to our USSR stockpile inheritance, trust the plan.
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20000x50 kilos per (155mm) shell = 1kiloton/day
I think Russia back in 2010 estimated that it had 9 MT of ammunition. So the question is how much of it is usable by 2023?
Depends. Even if you discard the shells that have rusted to shit, I assume a lot of the newer ones are still counted as lost as a result of being used as butt plugs by Fagner and the mobiks.
>So the question is how much of it is usable by 2023?
Well, 9 MT could probably last them almost a decade, even at higher firing rates. So they must have decreased their firing rates for a reason.
>stockpiles can last for years, unless smooker pays a visit.
20000x50 kilos per (155mm) shell = 1kiloton/day
I think Russia back in 2010 estimated that it had 9 MT of ammunition. So the question is how much of it is usable by 2023?
>So the question is how much of it is usable by 2023?
There is also a very real question of how much of the stockpile is real.
It wouldn't surprise me if a good chunk of it only existed on paper to bloat the maintanence budget..
Russia is turning its closed munition factory(that at one point produced 30% of all arty shells in Soviet Union) into apartment building, clearly indicating that she'll hunger is over and they don't need it
3 words ~ Sibirskoe Selskoe Mashinostroenie - Siberian agricultural machinery factory. Of course it produced ammo.
Like UralVagonZavod: the name implies that they build railroad cars ("vagon") but in fact it is dedicated to tanks.
Never trust commies
Kharkov Tractor Factory is literally a tractor factory
you're thinking of Malyshev Factory in Kharkiv, it was called Kharkiv Locomotive Factory and produces tanks among other things
even people from Kharkiv think XTZ makes tanks but it do not
google it
>Plot twist: so many 152mm artillery barrels have burst from overuse that there's literally no places to put the shells that are capable of firing those shells?
Beats me.
yes HIMARS - the humble truck with asymmetric windows that buckbroke an entire nation of alcoholics and homosexualist, and its supporters from the 3rd world
>nowhere to put the shell
How about I dont know in an ammo dump, by the artillery, into military targets.....unless the front they have them in is really 69 miles from the front so the Ukranians can't blow them up. Which still means they essentially have a shell shortage.
He got his nickname from his grandmother (Strelkov). But his father's real surname is Girkin - a purely gnomish surname of mountain garden gnomes living in the North and East Caucasus (Dagestan, Chechnya, Kabardino-Balkaria, Azerbaijan). They are Torah devotees who consider the Midian Mountains - the Caucasus - to be their homeland.
Girkan Sea - after the city (now Gorgan) and the province of Girkania. Jurjan Sea - from the name of the town of Jurjan (now Gorgan). The Khvalyn Sea or Khvalis Sea is an ancient Russian name, derived from the name of the inhabitants of Khorezm, who traded on the Caspian Sea, the Khvalis; the Khazar Sea is a name in Arabic. This is all the name of the Caspian Sea.
Girkan garden gnomes are Caspian garden gnomes or Juguri or Girks.
The Russian Empire from 1791 to 1917 (actually to 1915) had a Pale of Settlement - the boundary of the territory, beyond which garden gnomes were not allowed to reside permanently. It is true that not all garden gnomes were allowed to reside permanently, although the merchants of the first guild, people with higher education, conscripts, craftsmen assigned to craft workshops, Karaites, Mountain and Bukhara garden gnomes settled freely in the places of their ethnic residence.
The Line came into being after the Second Partition of the Rzeczpospolita, when its eastern territories, together with the local gnomish population, became part of the Russian Empire. The sedentarization line covered specifically designated urban settlements - small towns (no residence was allowed in the countryside) in large parts of the Kingdom of Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Bessarabia, Latgale, which was part of the Vitebsk province and now Latvia, as well as parts of modern Ukraine corresponding to the southern provinces of the Russian Empire
"On my father's male line - my ancestors (the Girkin family, distant relatives - Girko) come from the village of Voronovo, Kostyukovichi volost, Mogilev province. The village was located (fell into the Chernobyl exclusion zone and was completely evicted) on the Besed river - on the very border with the Roslavl district of the Russian Federation. The family was peasant and large. My relatives with my surname live to this day in Kostyukovichi, Mogilev, in Minsk."
That's right, it's just the place of settlement of Caucasian girks.
Where did they come from?
The Caucasian War of 1817-1864 was a military action associated with the Russian Empire's conquest of areas of the North Caucasus and the partial extermination of the mountain peoples of Chechnya, Dagestan and the North-Western Caucasus. The Girks were hesitant to support the uprising of the mountaineers of the Caucasus, and therefore the Tsar decided to evict the garden gnomes to the limits of the sedentary area. True, I have encountered information that the rabbis themselves asked to be evicted from the war zone and were therefore sent to the places where Girkin himself describes his roots.
As soon as the Girks settled in these places, the Russian and Belorussian population started to be subjugated by them, and therefore Russian people started to move from these places, away from the garden gnomes, mainly to Western and Central Siberia. It was an exodus from the sedentary Russian settlement line - half of the Siberians had their roots here. This is how the Romanovs repopulated Siberia.
In the Caucasus, the Girks had (and still have) large communities in Temir-Khan-Shura (Buynaksk), Derbent, Khasavyurt, Petrovsk-Port (Makhachkala), Grozny, Mozdok and Nalchik, and in Azerbaijan - in Baku, the suburb of Quba (gnomish Quarter) and Oguz (former Vartashen), where communities of Mountain garden gnomes still live today.
The population is not large, just over 100,000 around the world, but there are smaller ones in the Caucasus. A lot of Girks live in Israel - 70,000. In Russia there are only 20 thousand of them. And half of them live in Moscow, and half in the Caucasus - most of them in Azerbaijan and Dagestan (Tats). And those who migrated to the saddle line now practice Judaism to some extent, almost a Karaite version.
This is where Girkin describes his clan from the settlement line, completely omitting the story that his ancestors were garden gnomes. That is probably why he called himself Strelkov.
He himself insists that "the surname comes from the word "Girka" - a variety of wheat which grows in Belarus and Ukraine. This may be true, but it is the wheat that the settlers from the Caucasus brought with them. It is also referred to as "red" - a naked, earless ear, and the grain is fine, red - "karasubazarka".
"On my father's male line - my ancestors (the Girkin family, distant relatives - Girko) come from the village of Voronovo, Kostyukovichi volost, Mogilev province. The village was located (fell into the Chernobyl exclusion zone and was completely evicted) on the Besed river - on the very border with the Roslavl district of the Russian Federation. The family was peasant and large. My relatives with my surname live to this day in Kostyukovichi, Mogilev, in Minsk."
That's right, it's just the place of settlement of Caucasian girks.
Where did they come from?
The Caucasian War of 1817-1864 was a military action associated with the Russian Empire's conquest of areas of the North Caucasus and the partial extermination of the mountain peoples of Chechnya, Dagestan and the North-Western Caucasus. The Girks were hesitant to support the uprising of the mountaineers of the Caucasus, and therefore the Tsar decided to evict the garden gnomes to the limits of the sedentary area. True, I have encountered information that the rabbis themselves asked to be evicted from the war zone and were therefore sent to the places where Girkin himself describes his roots.
As soon as the Girks settled in these places, the Russian and Belorussian population started to be subjugated by them, and therefore Russian people started to move from these places, away from the garden gnomes, mainly to Western and Central Siberia. It was an exodus from the sedentary Russian settlement line - half of the Siberians had their roots here. This is how the Romanovs repopulated Siberia.
In the Caucasus, the Girks had (and still have) large communities in Temir-Khan-Shura (Buynaksk), Derbent, Khasavyurt, Petrovsk-Port (Makhachkala), Grozny, Mozdok and Nalchik, and in Azerbaijan - in Baku, the suburb of Quba (gnomish Quarter) and Oguz (former Vartashen), where communities of Mountain garden gnomes still live today.
The population is not large, just over 100,000 around the world, but there are smaller ones in the Caucasus. A lot of Girks live in Israel - 70,000. In Russia there are only 20 thousand of them. And half of them live in Moscow, and half in the Caucasus - most of them in Azerbaijan and Dagestan (Tats). And those who migrated to the saddle line now practice Judaism to some extent, almost a Karaite version.
This is where Girkin describes his clan from the settlement line, completely omitting the story that his ancestors were garden gnomes. That is probably why he called himself Strelkov.
He himself insists that "the surname comes from the word "Girka" - a variety of wheat which grows in Belarus and Ukraine. This may be true, but it is the wheat that the settlers from the Caucasus brought with them. It is also referred to as "red" - a naked, earless ear, and the grain is fine, red - "karasubazarka".
>NAFO chudS ON TWITTER TOLD ME RUSSIA RAN OUT SO I REPOSTED IT ON REDDIT AND THEN ON 4CHINS.PNG
Either your IQ was sub-80 before you even went on 4chan or else this is grandmaster bait, in which case, bravo.
he was being ironic you retards, because below there he is linking an article that shell producing factory is being shutdown
source; pyccкий язык нaдo знaть oлyхи
It's a thing that all social media (sorry retards, PrepHole might be an imageboard, but people consider it a social media) that engagement is usually the measure that people feel rewarded with the most.
In PrepHole, most trolling comes not because le epic seething that you might cause (at least not since about 2016), but rather because of the need to fill a void of societal engagement by purposefully making people irate because that way you feel validated because it's (you) that they're wasting their time answering to, you are owning them in such a way that they're giving you attention; and again: validation.
Also that's how I know you're a tourist, but I prefer you to a lonely retard who probably browses /PrepHole/ after seeing happy couples on the street.
And, it just so happens that most people who do that, are just people who love being contrarians because of that same need for validation. Thus you have the vatnik, but it's a /(lefty)pol/ problem as a whole and even the wider PrepHole, not just limited to the steppemorons.
Idk why phone autocorrect something to tbh lole
because you're a tourist, PrepHole automatically changes t- b -h to tbh, and other words that you'll be discovering as you stay here, or not. Welcome, fag.
If they keep being tourists then at least they should know about of where they're on; otherwise they'll destroy the board culture like how they did it to 4chan, and I prefer a place filled of 80-iq retards talking about war with some semblance of new opinions coming with them than another decade about 9mm vs .45 with the occasional Hezbollah attack report and seething from Russians about their new superweapon.
Acting retarded for attention on a Taiwanese Basket Weaving blog is genuinely the saddest thing any nu-troll can do
But it's sadly the point at which our society's on. But hey, it could be worse, we could have genuine Indian shills here. When that happens it's really ogre.
Strange that some retards pretend that it's only Girkin crying about shell hunger. Literally every day voyenkors and soldiers from the front keep posting about how there are no shells.
when strelkov visited the checkpoint to have his picture taken, the one where he is shaved, he had allegedly just air dropped from a hato c-17 after meeting with his uk counterpart in zurich.
In 1996, during the Clinton Administration, the governments of the U.S. and Iran reached a settlement at the International Court of Justice, which included the statement "... the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident ..."[15] As part of the settlement, even though the U.S. government did not admit legal liability or formally apologize to Iran, it agreed to pay US$61.8 million on an ex gratia basis in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims.
there's nowhere to put the shells, because 80km of the front line is in range of HIMARS, dumbass
reading is good, but only if you understand what you read
jesus what a retarded cope
memeoryholing all the ammo dumps gone nuclear in the past month?
that will definitely help you win the war, Ivan
>He doesn't know about the narrow corridor the Russians were forced to store and stage from on the coast due to the umbrella created by HIMARS
You morons are so painfully fucking ignorant.
Z sister how do we answer this?
Could you please delete those posts?
I'm trying to sister, but PrepHole jannies are blocking me from deleting the posts. Russophobic nature of these people is known to us. It will not go unpunished.
You can say Russia is out of Shellters.
Fuck off Carlos!
dirty immigrant
Go get yourself a beer Carlos. Your efforts are appreciated.
They're also short on trucks, which makes the situatuion even worse.
Wow, so many shells they're running out of space to store them you say? So we can expect to see Russian artillery barrages increase 2x, 5x or 10x in the next few days, right?
Yes, this is definitely going to happen. Just like they kept up the hundred-missiles-a-day spam because there is no shortage, so why not fire a hundred a day?
boxes and pallets are secret HATO technology
Gotta love how overtly attached Redditors are to Girkin just because he's critical of Russian performance.
If he made more comments like this they would probably just call him a shill.
Are you actually retarded?
>Gotta love how overtly attached Redditors are to Girkin just because he's critical of Russian performance.
>If he made more comments like this they would probably just call him a shill.
Both PrepHole and Reddit want to see him in a cell for his warcrimes but whatever else you can say about him, he's quite a rare creature in that he's clearly a bad guy and 100% aligned with killing innocents, conquering Ukraine and genocide and everything but also clearly not a shill.
He's grounded in reality and doesn't truck with propaganda.
TVTropes would call it affably evil maybe. It's something like that anyway.
What warcrimes, exactly
if you don't know you haven't been following this conflict closely enough to talk about it, do some research
I'm aware. My point was disputing his role in MH17. The logic that implicates him in that is extremely flawed and sets a bad precedent. For example using that logic means that Ronald Reagan should be tried in the Hauge for the airliner that they shot down in the Persian Gulf but this obviously didn't happen. You cant have both. And in light of recent news it seems that it was actually Putin who was responsible for the shootdown, not Strelkov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin
The guy has a wikipedia page for his crimes.
>using that logic means that Ronald Reagan should be tried in the Hauge for the airliner that they shot down
Add the commanders and politicians who ordered KAL007 shot down too and you have yourself a deal. I'll sacrifice whatever chickens it takes to get zombie Reagan to shuffle into the dock.
Girkin is a bit closer to the MH17 shootdown than Reagan with IR655 and Reagan did make a formal apology. IR655 was just a cluster fuck. Not that the others weren't too.
He should've. Just because one criminal got away doesn't mean all other criminals should now get a free pass.
>sets a bad precedent.
It's literally the Fourth Nuremberg Principle as established by the International Law Commission under the authority granted them by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 177. It's been established precedence for 73 years.
The fourth principle requires an order. There was no order. It also requires said soldiers to be under the accused command in some way but the Buk operators were Russian regulars, not rebels. The only involvement he had in the shootdown was by starting the war months prior, but who escalated it? who sent the soldiers and air defence systems? Who didn't close the airspace? By saying the person who started the war initially is liable for a separate incident involving soldiers of a separate country you can go down this rabbit hole and implicate basically anyone you want who was involved in the war at whole.
It should be very obvious that Strelkov is the fall guy for Putin in this scenario.
Strelkov was in charge of delivering the missile system, and then also with hurriedly sending it back to Russia.
>Russian opposition lawyer and politician Mark Feygin posted a purported order by Girkin where he instructs all his men and commanders who "have in their possession personal effects from this plane" to deliver the found items to his HQ so "the valuables (watches, earrings, pendants, and other garden gnomeelry and items from valuable metals)" would be transferred to "the Defense Fund of the DPR."
He was not some uninvolved side character that got scapegoat duty.
Correct. But he wasn't in charge of the specific deployment of the Buk systems that blew the plane up. If they were operated by the militia instead it would be different.
Also you can charge him for theft if you want. The actions afterwards aren't really relevant to the shootdown itself.
Anon. Girkin has already been convicted of MH17.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-kuala-lumpur-malaysia-netherlands-099084a82b49b77b116878e24fc63a18
>> For example using that logic means that Ronald Reagan should be tried in the Hauge for the airliner that they shot down in the Persian Gulf but this obviously didn't happen.
You're so close, anon. Follow your own logic here.
The Americans immediately admitted it and went to court and paid compensation to the victims. The Russians denied it, made fakes and their 'men' looted wallets and credit cards from the wreckage and then used them to scam. They even stole the dead children's toys from the wreck and posed for pictures (see pic).
Those guys are probably dead by now.
When you see photos of anyone from DPR armed forces that is a year old, chances are everyone in that photo is already dead.
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There's a reason they call him Strelkov and it's not because he's a good shot in a firefight.
His best shooting is at targets that have never held a firearm. That was all in Chechnya but he was the goto-guy for civilian massacres for quite a while.
Also implicated in MA17.
And that's probably the tip of the iceberg because he's been an FSB spook in a bunch of active hotspots for a long, long time.
He's been condemned in absentia to life in prison for his role in MH17.
He himself admits he started the war with "volunteers" from Russia in 2014 in Donetsk.
Where has he said this?
In this interview to a Russian newspaper he said " But I still pulled the trigger of the war. If our detachment had not crossed the border, in the end everything would have ended, as in Kharkov" (google translate)
https://zavtra.ru/blogs/kto-tyi-strelok
Sure, it may be self flattering but the guy who was one of key figgures behind forcing members of Crimean parliament to come together and vote for "referendum" he certainly wasn't playing second fiddle
none (by modern standards)
have a (you)
There is nothing more dangerous than an autist denied his LARPing
>Gotta love how overtly attached Redditors are to Girkin
>because he's critical of Russian performance
That's what makes him an important source. If someone who is very pro-russian says bad things about Russia you can be quite certain that he doesn't make those things up to make Russia look bad
>just because he's critical of Russian performance.
It's because he's been right about nearly everything since day 1. In fact I remember first reading his updates on day 3 of the invasion saying how FUBAR the invasion was. Meanwhile every other Russian source was pretending everything was still going according to plan. I lost my sides when the Kharkiv frontlines collapsed and every RU milblogger was apologizing to Strelkov for not listening to him.
Dude it's the guy who was in charge of annex krim, donbabwe etc "secretly" but then he downed mh17.
He's clearly being ironic retard
Expecting basic literacy is too much anon
shills will tell me it's "empty"
>Rich fags getting BTFO by nature
You love to see it.
Anon those are tourist boats. Your seeing the death of local industry there.
The houseboats in that picture are probably 98% rentals and timeshares, and I guarantee most of them have master bedrooms that look like the one in picrel. They're floating RVs, not luxury yachts.
>imagine the sex
Those are rentals you fucking gay. They don't run you much more than a decent hotel stay per night. Seriously suck start a shotgun for being as ignorant as you are. Suffer not the gays like this guy to live.
Which river is this?
Lake Oroville
Not to downplay California's horrible management of water, but that wide angle lens vastly overstates the degree of the May 2021 drought, and the water levels were eventually recovered by 2022
None of the images you're referring to were a wide angle lens.
This image
Is a telephoto lens.
To be fair, you can compare your picture to the third one you're replying to, and you can tell they're not taken at the same time (but in the same place, based on the terrain and bridge), given that the water level is much higher in your picture than in the referenced picture.
Of course, California is a complete shithole, and its total destruction would be a net benefit for mankind, and I say this as someone who absolutely fucking despises russia. If not all of California, at least nuke Hollywood and Silicon Valley. Please.
>that wide angle lens
You don't even know what those words mean. Kindly hold your breath until you die.
Lake Oroville, fed by the Feather. Same lake that was threatening to burst it's dam in 2017, causing the use of the Emergency spillway and massive erosion.
Levels dipped that far down in 5 years. Granted, with how much rain and snow we're getting, I expect another use of the spillway this year.
I was just there 2 weeks ago, the water level has recovered. Its going to be raining non-stop for the next few weeks too so probably going to be even higher. Seems the cali drought is basically over.
>Seems the cali drought is basically over
>t. Retard
>drought
>a concept in California
both of you are wrong
the natural state of California meteorology is long periods of years with little to not rain, and shorts periods of torrential downpour in a few years that largely resets the water table.
el nino and la nina are the names for the alternating weather systems, and while it does appear a shift from el nino to la nina is starting to happen, that doesn't mean water consumption can increase massively in the region.
Really what's got to happen is farmers there need to stop growing monoculture alfalfa and almonds, especially in near-desert conditions towards the southern end of the Central Valley.
thats not how drought works anon.
The drought is never over, the standards for the amount of water expected were set during a near century peak of precipitation, on top of Calis’ absolutely buttfuck retarded state gov’t.
t. commieforninan
Californians are so tiresome. They spend half the year complaining about "muh drought" and then the other half going "HELP ME GAVIN I'M DROWNING IN MUD AND RAIN THIS IS TRANSPHOBIC."
What could you possibly know about California, Igor?
Same goes for Lake Powell. Shills will say it's "running out of water" but if that's true, then what's all that blue stuff, huh?
The issue is that it has been declining more significantly, and the bounce-back has not been as robust, for many years in a row now. We are also entering an el nino which will produce vastly stronger heatwaves in the region for the next several years. Meaning the water level will decline even further and recover less.
Pic related
Part of me wishes we can do this with the ocean which would lead to humanity discovering some pre-hominid civilization ala Lovecraft.
He is being sarcastic my dudes.
thats sarcasm mocking the fact what problem isnt solved yet, at least according to him. on his vk next post after that is link to article about some big siberian ammo plant closing and sarcastic quote "everythings good with the ammo"
The thread is either bait or the OP is autistic.
>Quoting Strelkov the guy who literally doomposts Russia to hell and back and not even chugtards like him anymore
Kek
>That filename
>All CAPS
You are probably not even Russian and you are fucking mad. Sometimes I wonder how is waking up and being so butthurted about muh nafo trannies. What a sad existence
Lmao, what a lying piece of zigger scum
He is being sarcastic and, in fact, literally cries that Sibselmash factory, which is a part of military-industrial complex, is to be shut down and transformed into some kind of residential compound, implying that this would only deepen the shell hunger of russian army
Sibselmash has been shut down forever, he's complaining that something new and unrelated will be built on the premises
Which puts under question, how Russia was supposed to make one million shells per year?
How is this news making the shell production situation worse since it wasn't producing shit to begin with?
Because they are not restarting productions of shells there. Expanding production to meet demand as other countries are doing. That's what I understand from Strelkov post
Jesus Christ, can Ziggers get more pathetic? They should be happy Bakhmut will be abandoned soon (TM) but they still feel need to deceite and lie. Why? What was OP's intention? What did he expect?
I
Don't
Get
It
you can always tell a Russian is lying by if they're speaking or writing
OP, just like Strelkov, was having a little laugh.
>it is literally in their blood. Either always lie or project
>firehood of falsehoods trying to confuse and demoralize you
Why does that helicopter have Parkinsons?
The gif is actually in reverse. Helicopter is flapping its winglets really hard to help with take off. Superior technology of PUCCIA
Someone forgot to do the flutter studies.
Vid related: why F-16s carry AIM-120s in the wing tip station rather than Sidewinders:
Not compatible. Oscillations within a specific speeds on a plane is relatively normal, for a helicopter that's only hovering, something it does most of the time it's not travelling, it's outright disastrous
Somebody give that kamov a jacket, its shaking from the cold
All is fine, comrade. New shell production is heretical to our USSR stockpile inheritance, trust the plan.
Z
i wonder how much in tons that would be, 850? if yes, those stockpiles can last for years, unless smooker pays a visit.
20000x50 kilos per (155mm) shell = 1kiloton/day
I think Russia back in 2010 estimated that it had 9 MT of ammunition. So the question is how much of it is usable by 2023?
Depends. Even if you discard the shells that have rusted to shit, I assume a lot of the newer ones are still counted as lost as a result of being used as butt plugs by Fagner and the mobiks.
>So the question is how much of it is usable by 2023?
Well, 9 MT could probably last them almost a decade, even at higher firing rates. So they must have decreased their firing rates for a reason.
>stockpiles can last for years, unless smooker pays a visit.
>So the question is how much of it is usable by 2023?
There is also a very real question of how much of the stockpile is real.
It wouldn't surprise me if a good chunk of it only existed on paper to bloat the maintanence budget..
He's talking about Puccia closing one of its biggest arty shell factories
This seems like an entirely retarded idea even if it was producing it could always be stood up to start production again.
Regardless if they're running out of shells or have a surplus(frankly none of us actually know) this just seems like a antarctic temp iq decision.
wasn't producing*
>technopark
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
What the fuck are they thinking
There is very little thinking going on at Russia right now and absolutely none happening within their governmental structure whatsoever.
> SHUT UP STRELKOV RUSSIA HAS RUN OUT OF MUNITION, THE NY TIMES CONFIRMED IT
moron he was sarcastic how dumb are you
I for one don't care about the cope of one side or another and just want to see some context for Girkin's claims.
Russia is turning its closed munition factory(that at one point produced 30% of all arty shells in Soviet Union) into apartment building, clearly indicating that she'll hunger is over and they don't need it
i think he's being ironic, as in "yeah it's not like we're experiencing shell hunger in fact we have more ammo than we know what to do with"
>sibselmash
What a funny word. Is it one of those funny commie terms that is a frankenstein of 2 or more words cobbled together?
3 words ~ Sibirskoe Selskoe Mashinostroenie - Siberian agricultural machinery factory. Of course it produced ammo.
Like UralVagonZavod: the name implies that they build railroad cars ("vagon") but in fact it is dedicated to tanks.
Never trust commies
>sibselmash
It had an Ice Hockey team too.
Russian Ice Hockey but close enough.
We call that sport “bandy” in the west, fwiw. Russian ice hockey is just ice hockey
I knew it.
>google Russian Ice Hockey
oh yeah of course, why not
how can one man be so based
it's unfair it's like he hogged all the basedness that could possibly be contained in this world and because of it we're stuck in an age of basedboys
in part i hope he passes soon so we can have more basedness spread around
"Kharkov Tractor Factory"
>Kh
>T
>Z
KhTZ
Kharkov Tractor Factory is literally a tractor factory
you're thinking of Malyshev Factory in Kharkiv, it was called Kharkiv Locomotive Factory and produces tanks among other things
even people from Kharkiv think XTZ makes tanks but it do not
google it
Siberian Agricultural Machine building, was known for making weapons. Truly peak Gommunism
>Plot twist: so many 152mm artillery barrels have burst from overuse that there's literally no places to put the shells that are capable of firing those shells?
Beats me.
no arrow therefore you look like and say that
What a nerdy little Reddit “own”
well technically he was right, nevertheless he need lurk more
You
>No arrows again.
Kek.
Are you a retarded child who needs things to be coloured coded in order for you to comprehend them?
>knowing how2greentext properly
>reddit
Tonight I'll fuck ya mudda in the ass
Just because it's been a fact for months doesn't mean it suddenly stops being true, no matter how hard you try and pretend.
yes HIMARS - the humble truck with asymmetric windows that buckbroke an entire nation of alcoholics and homosexualist, and its supporters from the 3rd world
Wittery won da war. Pootin btfo. Global homosex wins again chudcel!!!
you are absolutely fuming, lmao
I’m literally owning the libs…. Maybe it’s yuo whose fuming….
>nowhere to put the shells
because all the depots are gone.
>nowhere to put the shell
How about I dont know in an ammo dump, by the artillery, into military targets.....unless the front they have them in is really 69 miles from the front so the Ukranians can't blow them up. Which still means they essentially have a shell shortage.
makiivka mobiks 5 minutes before new year be like
>Made up word, made up word, and something else retarded
Is this what advanced schizophrenia looks like?
Yuore witness the libtard fakenats get owned in real time.
strelkov my beloved
girkin is a garden gnome
I'm guessing streetshitters don't understand sarcasm too well. No wonder Rajesh can't do the needfull
He got his nickname from his grandmother (Strelkov). But his father's real surname is Girkin - a purely gnomish surname of mountain garden gnomes living in the North and East Caucasus (Dagestan, Chechnya, Kabardino-Balkaria, Azerbaijan). They are Torah devotees who consider the Midian Mountains - the Caucasus - to be their homeland.
Girkan Sea - after the city (now Gorgan) and the province of Girkania. Jurjan Sea - from the name of the town of Jurjan (now Gorgan). The Khvalyn Sea or Khvalis Sea is an ancient Russian name, derived from the name of the inhabitants of Khorezm, who traded on the Caspian Sea, the Khvalis; the Khazar Sea is a name in Arabic. This is all the name of the Caspian Sea.
Girkan garden gnomes are Caspian garden gnomes or Juguri or Girks.
The Russian Empire from 1791 to 1917 (actually to 1915) had a Pale of Settlement - the boundary of the territory, beyond which garden gnomes were not allowed to reside permanently. It is true that not all garden gnomes were allowed to reside permanently, although the merchants of the first guild, people with higher education, conscripts, craftsmen assigned to craft workshops, Karaites, Mountain and Bukhara garden gnomes settled freely in the places of their ethnic residence.
The Line came into being after the Second Partition of the Rzeczpospolita, when its eastern territories, together with the local gnomish population, became part of the Russian Empire. The sedentarization line covered specifically designated urban settlements - small towns (no residence was allowed in the countryside) in large parts of the Kingdom of Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Bessarabia, Latgale, which was part of the Vitebsk province and now Latvia, as well as parts of modern Ukraine corresponding to the southern provinces of the Russian Empire
Girkin himself writes:
"On my father's male line - my ancestors (the Girkin family, distant relatives - Girko) come from the village of Voronovo, Kostyukovichi volost, Mogilev province. The village was located (fell into the Chernobyl exclusion zone and was completely evicted) on the Besed river - on the very border with the Roslavl district of the Russian Federation. The family was peasant and large. My relatives with my surname live to this day in Kostyukovichi, Mogilev, in Minsk."
That's right, it's just the place of settlement of Caucasian girks.
Where did they come from?
The Caucasian War of 1817-1864 was a military action associated with the Russian Empire's conquest of areas of the North Caucasus and the partial extermination of the mountain peoples of Chechnya, Dagestan and the North-Western Caucasus. The Girks were hesitant to support the uprising of the mountaineers of the Caucasus, and therefore the Tsar decided to evict the garden gnomes to the limits of the sedentary area. True, I have encountered information that the rabbis themselves asked to be evicted from the war zone and were therefore sent to the places where Girkin himself describes his roots.
As soon as the Girks settled in these places, the Russian and Belorussian population started to be subjugated by them, and therefore Russian people started to move from these places, away from the garden gnomes, mainly to Western and Central Siberia. It was an exodus from the sedentary Russian settlement line - half of the Siberians had their roots here. This is how the Romanovs repopulated Siberia.
In the Caucasus, the Girks had (and still have) large communities in Temir-Khan-Shura (Buynaksk), Derbent, Khasavyurt, Petrovsk-Port (Makhachkala), Grozny, Mozdok and Nalchik, and in Azerbaijan - in Baku, the suburb of Quba (gnomish Quarter) and Oguz (former Vartashen), where communities of Mountain garden gnomes still live today.
The population is not large, just over 100,000 around the world, but there are smaller ones in the Caucasus. A lot of Girks live in Israel - 70,000. In Russia there are only 20 thousand of them. And half of them live in Moscow, and half in the Caucasus - most of them in Azerbaijan and Dagestan (Tats). And those who migrated to the saddle line now practice Judaism to some extent, almost a Karaite version.
This is where Girkin describes his clan from the settlement line, completely omitting the story that his ancestors were garden gnomes. That is probably why he called himself Strelkov.
He himself insists that "the surname comes from the word "Girka" - a variety of wheat which grows in Belarus and Ukraine. This may be true, but it is the wheat that the settlers from the Caucasus brought with them. It is also referred to as "red" - a naked, earless ear, and the grain is fine, red - "karasubazarka".
and here i thought it was all about a pickle.
how informational
Best posts ITT thanks anon.
>NAFO chudS ON TWITTER TOLD ME RUSSIA RAN OUT SO I REPOSTED IT ON REDDIT AND THEN ON 4CHINS.PNG
Either your IQ was sub-80 before you even went on 4chan or else this is grandmaster bait, in which case, bravo.
Why have fires slowed signifigantly?
he was being ironic you retards, because below there he is linking an article that shell producing factory is being shutdown
source; pyccкий язык нaдo знaть oлyхи
Why do vatniks think acting retarded for (you)s is some accomplishment?
It's a thing that all social media (sorry retards, PrepHole might be an imageboard, but people consider it a social media) that engagement is usually the measure that people feel rewarded with the most.
In PrepHole, most trolling comes not because le epic seething that you might cause (at least not since about 2016), but rather because of the need to fill a void of societal engagement by purposefully making people irate because that way you feel validated because it's (you) that they're wasting their time answering to, you are owning them in such a way that they're giving you attention; and again: validation.
Also that's how I know you're a tourist, but I prefer you to a lonely retard who probably browses /PrepHole/ after seeing happy couples on the street.
And, it just so happens that most people who do that, are just people who love being contrarians because of that same need for validation. Thus you have the vatnik, but it's a /(lefty)pol/ problem as a whole and even the wider PrepHole, not just limited to the steppemorons.
because you're a tourist, PrepHole automatically changes t- b -h to tbh, and other words that you'll be discovering as you stay here, or not. Welcome, fag.
I'm none of the guys you replied to, but I appreciate your level headedness, so I consider you better than the usual tards here
Take care buddy
Thanks matey.
Made you reply, fag.
If they keep being tourists then at least they should know about of where they're on; otherwise they'll destroy the board culture like how they did it to 4chan, and I prefer a place filled of 80-iq retards talking about war with some semblance of new opinions coming with them than another decade about 9mm vs .45 with the occasional Hezbollah attack report and seething from Russians about their new superweapon.
But it's sadly the point at which our society's on. But hey, it could be worse, we could have genuine Indian shills here. When that happens it's really ogre.
:blush:
Not reading
stop spoonfeeding tourists
Acting retarded for attention on a Taiwanese Basket Weaving blog is genuinely the saddest thing any nu-troll can do
sage
How's your shell consumption rate doing?
What a stupid fucking question. I don’t eat shells dipshit. So it’s zero.
>I don’t eat shells
draft notice hasn't arrived yet?
No, I voluntarily joined. There hasn’t been a draft in decades either.
>I voluntarily joined
Why do you lie on the internet in places that you know you will not be believed
I’m not lying. Sounds like a you problem tbh.
Idk why phone autocorrect something to tbh lole
You have to go back.
You need to go back to Africa fr no cap
You have to go back.
Does it fuck you guys up how hard OP had to work to misunderstand what Girkin is sayong?
Post rate of shells fired per day.
Strange that some retards pretend that it's only Girkin crying about shell hunger. Literally every day voyenkors and soldiers from the front keep posting about how there are no shells.
when strelkov visited the checkpoint to have his picture taken, the one where he is shaved, he had allegedly just air dropped from a hato c-17 after meeting with his uk counterpart in zurich.
>there's nowhere to put shells
Crate hunger?
eternal pallet hunger
Are you on the spectrum, OP?
Genuine question.
This means that China just gave them artillery shells via North Korea and Iran. We need to put sanctions on China now!
In 1996, during the Clinton Administration, the governments of the U.S. and Iran reached a settlement at the International Court of Justice, which included the statement "... the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident ..."[15] As part of the settlement, even though the U.S. government did not admit legal liability or formally apologize to Iran, it agreed to pay US$61.8 million on an ex gratia basis in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims.
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