Should Ukraine bring back the LRRP concept?

With endless intel and so much territory unsecured even in spots Russia supposedly "controls", it is possible.

Also, what weapons would equip such units?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Also, what weapons would equip such units?
    Whatever rifles there are available? What's the difference?

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dont they already deploy deep reconnaissance groups?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be remotely shocked.

      So much "controlled" territory is unsecured by the Russians, due to sheer lack of manpower and incompetence.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      they deplot sabotage groups pretty regularly but to answer OPs question

      https://i.imgur.com/c7R1DJL.png

      With endless intel and so much territory unsecured even in spots Russia supposedly "controls", it is possible.

      Also, what weapons would equip such units?

      Ukraine movements especially at the start of the Donbas war could be described as LRRP SBU and sabotage groups were operating far beyond ukrainian lines

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen a few running around with MP5SDs

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Long range foot patrols/scouts were never gone. Except maybe for US

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Walk 100 miles with a two long arms, a pistol, 1 week of food, and 80 pounds of miscellaneous gear

    No thank you

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not even if you get to deploy cool toys?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Probably not, that shit is next level suck that you can't even fathom. Those guys are in phenomenal physical shape, but that isn't even half the battle. They're just straight up nut jobs who are willing to go 3 days without sleep, two days without food, and walk under heavy loads, just for the opportunity to shoot people in the face.

        When I first joined the NG I was doggedly determined to branch infantry and go SF, but then I decided to become a helicopter pilot because it's a much way better way to live. Being an active duty operator would be cool because you'd always have your bros, but having to maintain it on your own as a civilian would be a struggle. Half of what motivates them is the bonds they have with each other, and being a regular Guard soldier can already get lonely because the only other people who understand the struggle are other reservists. Being an actual operator as a side job, seems like it'd be miserable because here you are rucking 20 miles on the weekends then you have come back to the office on Monday and listen to some fat b***h complain about her arthritis.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Shut up nasty girl
          >t. Real Army

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You AD fricks never really understand that we don't care. We have full time jobs in the real world that pay living wages, and don't have to ask permission to travel further than 50 miles on a weekend.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nasty girls actually have real jobs that contribute to society. AD is just busywork/ workfare for people who can run 4 miles without stopping.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            its funny that you guys always act like people are going to be impressed that you were dumb enough to go active

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Nasty Girl he replied to here.

              Don't get me wrong I think it's great, or even better to do a spell on AD before switching to the reserves/NG. I wish I had done AD first because the Guard does have some major downsides.

              The One Weekend a month Two weeks a year slogan is simply not true, at least for officers. You can always expect at least one Guard related call, text, email, or assignment per day between drills. It'll honestly become surreal how much time you send planning for a 2-4 day weekend every month. It controls your life in such an odd way, and the worst part is that most of it is unpaid.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So you ended up the helicopter mechanic, right? And your civilian job is either walmart or mcdonalds, huh?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            from the vileness of this writing style, I can tell the IDF conscript is behind this post

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You sound like an absolute fatass pussy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No, I've just actually done something similar so I know how much it sucks. Have you ever even walked further than to your car?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You're black?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Is that even relevant?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Nice photoshop. I have never seen a black hiker.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Lol, you go walk across a country of open farmland for weeks at a time carrying all that shit he listed, trying not to get spotted by drones and thermals.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Me in Far Cry. Seriously though, if you want an assault rifle and a suppressed subgun, why not just compromise and use an sbr with a suppressor and a few mags with subsonic ammo instead of carrying two long guns? Or suppress the pistol and use it instead of the MP5.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is that an AKM and an MP5? Odd combo.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously it's a Type 56-2

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      based combo

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No doubt no doubt. I think a battle rifle would fit better, but what do I know lol

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      MP5SD, integrally silenced and extremely effective in semi-auto. Crazy accurate too.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >crazy accurate

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It has a pistol length barrel that's got 30 holes drilled in the first inch of rifling
          And it's still a 2moa gun

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dumb question, but shouldn't such dudes be absolutely btfo'd by satellite imagery that russia and any somewhat developed country can afford?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It depends. There are blind windows with those and weather conditions can absolutely frick up the quality of your data.
      It's like anything else, a combination of tools at your disposal is usually the way to go instead of over reliance on a single thing.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You'd need to be having a technician staring at hundreds of miles of fields. Any competently deployed scout unit is going to be moving slowly enough that the 'haze' from atmospheric distortion will make a unit damned-near invisible. The false assumption people make is that a satellite operator is even going to have the square kilometer grid a unit might be in, see them, gather any useful information, and relay it to ground/artillery forces in time for anything meaningful to be done to counter them.

      Satellite imagery is great for figuring out tactical plans or spotting emplacements, but an actual light recon unit is going to be a ghost to a satellite.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you need deep recon squads if the satellite tells you everything anyways? Unless you're trying to spot other individual soldiers hiding in the woods? Seems pointless. Also the Russian rear line is full of civilians happily reporting on Russian positions and vice versa in cases.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What am I looking at?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    LRRP is horribly outdated in the age of thermals, drones, AWACS and similar. I am glad the militaries of the world do not listen to morons on a Tibetan vegana drying forum.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >LRRP is horribly outdated in the age of....AWACS
      please tell us more about how an AWACS makes a team ouf 6 dudes outdated

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    that mp5 is fricking huge

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The MP5 is a very large gun, not much different from the G3 dimensions.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What binos?

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