Should Germany buy Gripen or Rafale?

Should Germany buy Gripen or Rafale?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gripen my dick, lmao.
    shit thread

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rafall off the cliff, gay.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland should invade Germany before North America has to bail you stupid fucking europoors out again. Seethe all you want I don't care it's going to have to happen

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both. Develop an unmanned gripen successor with sweden. Buy rafale successor from the french... or Tempest, or more F35, or NGAD if they sell. Fuck developing with france, it never works.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neither. Already have Eurofighters. Germant should buy a couple squadrons of F-35s for nuclear strike and a couple squadrons of Growlers for electronic warfare. Anything else can be done with more/newer Eurofighters.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Growlers
      I have no idea what I'm talking about, so bear with my retardation
      but can't just about any plane carry a magical EW pod?
      why add a handful of carrier-capable aircraft to your inventory when you don't have a carrier?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, almost all aircraft can carry EW pods, but that means you can carry less weapons, and you might want your stand off EW to be positioned in other places then your strike/fighter aircraft. Air Forces have wildly different tactics and capabilities when it comes to EW, so thats why some use dedicated platforms for it, while others dont.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is not carrying the EW the problem is making the EW equipment, especially from scratch

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The EW pod on the Eurofighter is not as good as the one on the Tornado SEAD, which is not as good as a whole plane dedicated to it.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neither. Getting Gripens would just be stupid by Germany. Germany should buy F-35s as thats what they need to deliver nukes, and they alredy have Eurofighters.

    And this comes from a massive Gripen shill who actually works on Gripens for a living.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Works on gripens for a living
      Anything interesting you could tell us ? I assume youre part of the ground crew ?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yep, Im ground crew. I dont know what you want to know tho. There are markings in some places saying "No Grip" wich is a bit funny. The wings are really comfy to sleep on in summer days. We use old 1980s Jeeps as tow trucks.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How smug are the pilots ?
          >groundie groundie fuel my tankie

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not really smug at all, we all get along and play all sorts of jokes on each other.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ever suck each other off, as a joke?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Im in the Air Force, not the navy

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they ignite the afterburner while we check the engine
              >we fuck with their ejection seats
              Normal stuff.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is the 10 min turn around time for fuel and hardpoints bullshit ?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, its doable for standard options, even with mostly conscripts. Some more more specialist armament options sure takes more time then that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How often do pilots over-g the aircraft and how much does that overtime afterwards piss you off ?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Neither since it doesn't want to invest in expensive combat power.

            Drones and missile systems are far better band for the euro, have a far larger export market (the real reason Germany has an arms industry after surrendering its society to Ossis) and can be stored far less expensively than manned aircraft.

            "Because they look cool to sad cunts who will never fly them" is not a valid reason to buy aircraft.

            Not a Gripper but over-g inspections on much more complex aircraft aren't horrible. Modern aircraft require a fuckup or deliberate effort to over-G thanks to fly by wire so it's fairly rare even on old F-16s. Phantoms relied on aircrew who sometimes broke the engine mounts leaving the doors to support the engines. Those sucked when over-G'ed and aircrew were expected to buy us beer for the hassle.

            No, its doable for standard options, even with mostly conscripts. Some more more specialist armament options sure takes more time then that.

            What does the ten minute combat turn consist of? Simultaneous refuel/rearm or is hot refuel done before taxiing to the parking spot/rearm area? (Those not ICT familiar should know there are a variety of options depending on fuel truck or pantograph or hydrant location and availability.)

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >What does the ten minute combat turn consist of? Simultaneous refuel/rearm or is hot refuel done before taxiing to the parking spot/rearm area?

              Simultaneous refuel/rearm is the fastest way. It can be done anywhere if you bring a fuel truck, and is common on roadbases.

              Hot refueling is absolutly a thing too

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's by far the quickest in most cases, especially for dispersed ops.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kek East Germans really are the new garden gnomes for west Germany it seems

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its rare, but it happens. Its not too much work, but it sucks. We allways make sure that pilot is sent on some bullshit 3 hour presentation about something as a "reward"

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neither, both are trash.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why? They already have Typhoon.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Im not a pedo, so I dont care

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not? What's wrong with you?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany should wipe their asses with ww2 contracts and reignite their domnestic industry again. 7th gen messerschmitt

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany were thinking of making an ECR typhoon, but it turned out to be too much hard work.
    To be honest it's a weird capability to buy a dozen aircraft for, the USAF don't care about having dedicated jamming aircraft so I'm not sure why the Luftwaffe should.
    More F-35s would probably be a better force multiplier for strike and SEAD without ending up with India tier airframe diversity.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany should give money to France who will build the FCAS and may occasionally ask them to participate.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >French engineering
      Pls god no

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Should Germany buy Gripen or Rafale
    Neither. They're working on an aircraft with France and Spain.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only third world countries buy Gripenshit

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Should Germany buy...
    A toolbox to maintain its shit show

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