You are statistically morbidly obese to the point your department sent out an internal memo stating it knows youre such a fat piece of shit theyve seen jokes of you on the internet. Gonna have a coronary when some comment rustles your jimmies john.
Henry announced the Homestead 9mm semi-auto carbine. 16.5" barrel, ambidextrous safety, charging handle, and mag release. Threaded barrel. Takes proprietary Henry magazines or Glock/S&W M&P/Sigger P320 mags. $928/$959. Price seems maybe a bit high, we'll have to see what they actually sell for when they hit stores.
Neat gun. The boomerfudd in me likes that it has walnut furniture and blued metal, a nice departure from all tactico0l PCCs we see now.
But I'm sure the same gays that put skeletonized stocks, cartridge holders, suppressors, red dots, and MLOK rails on Henry lever actions will do the same to this gun.
Man, I love all those old PCC, seems today everyone is just making semi-auto SMG's instead. Friend had a Beretta Storm Carbine, was such a nice gun to shoot.
>It seems the wheels of change move slow for henry
probably for the best, took them forever to make sideloading gate leverguns but at least they're clearing taking time to get shit right from the start. The concept of a semi-auto 9mm pcc that takes glockazines on paper isn't what you'd expect from Henry but when you can see the final product in picture/video form you can see that it's what Henry would make within those bounds
Holy shit I actually want one of these.
I didn't expect to see anything come from shot this year that I'd actually consider buying outright but that's super attractive to me for some reason.
Is it blowback, or is there some sort of delay system (fingers crossed)?
>Henry rep says straight blowback
Ugh. I understand, but I'm still disappointed.
I have a mini uzi and a cmmg rdb, and the port pop difference is actually really significant.
Delayed blowback is where it's at for these things in my opinion, it just makes it so much nicer.
Holy shit I actually want one of these.
I didn't expect to see anything come from shot this year that I'd actually consider buying outright but that's super attractive to me for some reason.
Is it blowback, or is there some sort of delay system (fingers crossed)?
Most of Henry's stuff is closer to that except their golden boy. Henry makes you pay, but they are easier to get a hold of for some guns (ie., Marlin .357s tend to be unobtanium) and the QC on Henry is top notch. They just werk. My Big Boy was a great shooter.
I agree with your list overall but >suppressors
Frick off, EVERY new gun should have a suppressor. They should be like $50-100 otc available instantly. They're basic safety devices despite what the morons in Congress in the 1930s decided.
Frick yes finally. A gun that isn't ugly as frick. Not crazy about the pressed pattern instead of even pressed checkering but honestly it's not bad.
[...] >ruger will never ever
Some dude on the ruger subreddit posted a wood stock a few weeks ago and said he'd be making a 10/22 style with the wood handguard so don't give up hope yet.
Yeah the BLR. They still make it. Henry also had (has?) one called the Long Ranger. Giving the option for a flush mag and using AR10 mags would be sweet.
Why is Henry always playing catch up to Marlin? First with the damn side gate, and now this a Marlin camp. I guess it fills a niche. Might get one, but not at that price.
Any Anons attending Shot Show, it is your duty to bully the ATF there. Give them dirty looks, call them names, close doors in their face, frick up their orders if you're running a concession stand, double park behind them, etc. Nobody be kind to them. Bully glowies.
This, the idea of thousands of dudes just walking in to the booth, ripping nuclear hangover braps born of nasty ass Vegas food marinated in cheap booze then leaving without a word warms my cold little heart.
Drink a shit load of sodas and do a shart squirt so bad that it leaves a poop stain on the carpet of their booth that makes it smell like feces the entire time
Then tell them to die in traffic and bark at them as you leave
S&W released a M&P in 5.7. Interesting gas operated system. They're also doing a big rebate on all M&P handguns, I wonder if they're rolling out a new gen for the other calibers too.
I would buy a 10mm M&P for the rebate but they only come in 4 and 4.6 inches. I'm not wasting my money on a centimeter under 5 inches. Sig needs to make a threaded barrel for the Xten already.
It's odd how he somehow managed to cop a M&P5.7 mere minutes after it was released. Yep, he *totally* isn't a paid shill and *totally* buys his own guns.
PSA Rock 5.7 Blows all the others out of the water, that said the S&W is best of all the other options.
I would buy a 10mm M&P for the rebate but they only come in 4 and 4.6 inches. I'm not wasting my money on a centimeter under 5 inches. Sig needs to make a threaded barrel for the Xten already.
The FN 510 Tactical is definitely the best 10mm I felt all day at shot. I shoot a gen 4 G20 regularly and have tried all of the stuff on the market except the Sig X ten.
Talked down to the ATF, probably on a list now but felt good to tell them how it is.
Bummed I missed kommandostore, didn't see em on the app
>but quite simply because it is the sexiest and coolest looking one, and that’s all that matters.
Personal preference.
>Also has 23rd capacity, Mogs all the other 5.7 pistols.
That's only 5%-15% more depending on the model you're comparing it to. Really not that big of a difference.
For one, the ergonomics fit a human hand with sexy curves. If you have shot the TX22 Taurus, the rock is basically a 5.7 tx22. Comes threaded and red dot ready, so throw that 5.7 rimfire can and a dot on there and bang some steel. Seriously. I handle a huge range of pistols regularly and for my personal preference the 5.7 rock is the only decent one, and at a fraction of the cost. (The engineer for the rock may have designed the tx22 at Taurus)
Takes Glockazines too. I've been wanting a 9mm plinker and the wood appeals to my inner fudd so I'll probably get one down the line, but I do wish the furniture was a bit more like the stuff on their leverguns, not a huge fan of the squared off look or the grip style. Henry likes doing variants so maybe they'll do one with a straight stock and curved handguard later on though.
yeah looks like it from the ejection port and barrel and honestly after seeing their initial offerings of other guns in full power cartridges, I wouldn't feel safe if it wasn't just 22lr
It's not .22LR, it's more likely that it's in 5.56
Looks like PSA somehow ended up with the HMG design which was supposed to be available in 8mm Kurz, 5.56, 7.62x39, and .300 BLK
yeah i mean why the heck wouldn't they offer it in a dead caliber that no one uses or makes except one company that charges more than $1/round for the 5 people who actually have authentic WW2 StGs
Because it’s cool. And because you can barrel swap pretty easily to use 5.56 or 7.62 and play with the 8mm Kurtz once a year or whatever.
Also PSA is going to start manufacturing ammo I believe. There’s nothing inherently hard with making 8mm, just no demand. They could sell their own ammo for their own rifle and make a lot of it was $0.60-0.70. Basically no worse than .308 or .300blk and they’d be golden.
Excuse me, wtf is happening here? The STG44 didn't have a smg-style bolt handle safety notch in the receiver. Pic from here: https://www.alloutdoor.com/2023/01/17/shot-2023-psa-battlefield-stg-44/
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PSA Krink is finally happening, looks like they are going with a peep sight instead of the traditional 74U rear sight.
Nice if true. I've wanted a SAM7K for quite a while, but $1800 MSRP has kept me away. PSA might win me over if I can get a krink for more like $1000-1200.
Semi-related: I wonder if SAM7Ks will drop in price in light of the brace situation.
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Where the frick is the Amicus/Genesis? I would've expected a release around shot show or at least some update. Please don't tell me this is vaporware it's easily the greatest leap forward in small arms development in the past 50-70 years.
I'm sorry to say but I'm pretty sure it's been cancelled, all mention of it has been scrubbed from the TV and Beretta websites and social media, which is a shame because I really liked the idea of it.
I hope it hasn't truly been canceled. It was one of the only bullpups that I like, besides the P90/PS90 and AUG. It's one of the few bullpups that isn't visually back heavy. Very straight lines, front to back.
mbk 42h had that notch, altho a lot farther back. I am also at a loss as to why itd be on such a late production repro unless they just wanted to add a bolt hold open without it being an ar style bolt catch. Also looks like it takes stanags so that could be part of it
>It's not even a replica
Which is honestly good. A true replica STG would probably suck. They were a great concept, good for the time, but had a bunch of issues too.
It's not magic anon. All it does is direct gas by giving it a path to travel. Less gas blow back on suppressed guns, that's all it is. Do you own Silencers? Do you want to buy the barrel to put on an Upper, or buy a Complete Upper? Answer me that first. Other wise, move on.
My first thought on seeing this is wondering if it could be applied to increasing dwell time on shorter barrels. Not sure if the other anon had the same thought. I would think increasing the volume would slow the gas, assuming subsonic velocities, thereby increasing dwell time but I could be mistaken or overlooking something.
Add to that M&P 5.7mm with a rotating barrel action and it's like everybody went for some "light refreshments" at the Kel-Tec booth before setting up their own.
Are there different presenters each day? I’ve seen zero announcements from companies I actually care about. It’s either a bunch of literally who’s or companies rebranding products.
Its just a show floor. Some may decide to show something special not on the first day for whatever reason. Also I think a lot of companies just wait around for others to find and showcase their stuff for them, TFB etc etc
I'm more pissed that not a single other company on the fricking planet for all these years has not had the thought of making decent quality 5.45x39 Krink pistols that aren't $4k+ kit builds.
This might end up being my first PSA purchase.
I just want them to sell populated parts kits for these fricking things.
I'll make my own receiver with a coal shovel and a bench vice, just give me the fricking pieces.
No frick you, they shouldnt just like zpap serbs said frick you shitty stupid homebuilders fricking shit up and ruining our names. They dont sell that shit anymore and that us their official stance on the matter.
homosexualtube suspended a bunch of the gun people for showing a rifle being reloaded or putting on a silencer. That is modifying a rifle according to homosexualtube and is illegal.
homosexualtube suspended a bunch of the gun people for showing a rifle being reloaded or putting on a silencer. That is modifying a rifle according to homosexualtube and is illegal.
Looks like maybe its time for those Leviathan Vassals_R'_Us to finally move to Rumble et all
Genuinely what must it be like to be an ATF agent that gets the Shot Show detail? Do you think they realize basically everyone there hates them/thinks they're a joke? Do they care? Do they feel some sort of shame? Are they invited to any of the cool parties?
I'm imaging the ATF is about 90% left leaning, with the remainder being 10% right leaning. Most of the right leaning guys believe they're doing it for the greater good and good cause while a minority of the already right leaning minority are trying to actively change the ATF for the better. Those are the only ones who will feel shame.
ATF used to be a self-described “good ol’ boys” club that partied with strippers and issued “Black person hunting licenses.” After a whistleblower informed congress, the organization got purged, and I’m sure it’s been filling up with left-wing anti-gun activists since at least the Obama administration.
My guess is that it really started under Reagan. That was the first time since the NFA that really bullshit gun control started becoming a focus of the agency and it's hard to imagine anybody joining after that unless they were gun grabbers. The Good Ol' Boys Roundup was after that but the whole reason they'd have a private unofficial event like that was probably because they were becoming a minority in the agency.
I've always thought it was a shame the ATF is so bullshit when it comes to guns, because other parts of the agency do some cool shit, especially the counterterrorism stuff involving explosives, but I'd never want to be part of them because of the gun stuff and I'd bet pretty much anybody reasonable feels the same way.
>That was the first time since the NFA that really bullshit gun control started becoming a focus of the agency
you ever wonder how the firearm owners protection act got its name
ATF used to be a self-described “good ol’ boys” club that partied with strippers and issued “Black person hunting licenses.” After a whistleblower informed congress, the organization got purged, and I’m sure it’s been filling up with left-wing anti-gun activists since at least the Obama administration.
I'm imaging the ATF is about 90% left leaning, with the remainder being 10% right leaning. Most of the right leaning guys believe they're doing it for the greater good and good cause while a minority of the already right leaning minority are trying to actively change the ATF for the better. Those are the only ones who will feel shame.
Y'all need to read up on the GCA and the sheer tyranny of the ATF up until FOPA in '86. Despite FOPA closing the Machine Gun Registry (May William Hughes forever burn in Hell) it did a lot of good, there's a reason it passed despite the poison pill.
Based Gun Law history laureate. ATF has been rotten to the core since its inception. They literally started out as IRS tax_man still busters. The horrid 1968 GCA put them in control of guns nationwide
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More gunowners need to learn about just how capricious the Federal Government is
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pretty good show so far
While I'm always happy to see some Temporary Gun Owners in public, the cringe of that booth is painful
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What does that mean, temporary gun owners? Because troons rope?
Why the frick does everything have to be about anal sex for them?
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>temporary gun owners
Because they will bend the knee and turn in the firearms if demanded. Or what I find most common is that they buy a firearm in snap decision because they correctly realize they need protection in a bad situation. Such as the start of the pandemic, sudden domestic abuse from partner, or uptick in crime in their immediate area. Then later their indoctrination/guilt over having independent thought takes over and they make some dumb video where they saw the barrel in half (accidentally creating a SBR) and then turn it into the police. A then post online claiming they are a "reasonable gun owner".
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FN made a new rifle and a new cartridge. Long stroke piston AR18-ish rifle with a folding stock. No details on the new cartridge other than metric designation and some pictures. It’s a 6.5x43. Looks like a grendel/x39 case head with an OAL a little longer than 5.56. 2 piece case. Both case head and cylinder are steel. Maybe it runs at really high pressure? They got Magpul to make 25rd pmags for it. Anyway it’s in the military section of FNs booth so maybe won’t make it to the civilian market.
Seems like a much better idea than Sig's over matched boat anchor
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>What does that mean, temporary gun owners?
It means they see guns as a hobby and vote for politicians who aren't pro gun because those politicians support other policies that they consider to be more important, as opposed to falling for the bullshit of the "I could totally be an insurgent if things stopped going the way I wanted, but will never actually do anything because my life would be effectively over" lifestyle while voting against what they consider to be their own best interests. Anyone calling those people "temporary gun owners" expects them to go for the later.
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>Why the frick does everything have to be about anal sex for them?
Bro you were the one who brought up anal, not the imaginary gays in your head
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Anon, what do you think the fricking rainbows mean?
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Rainbows aren't code for anal dude
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Yes they are. Have you been living under a rock? A rainbow in any context other than a literal rainbow is a symbol of gay anal sex.
Yeah iirc the NRA wanted the FOPA passed so badly because the ATF was harassing FFLs and trying to put them out of business by auditing them repeatedly. FOPA limited the ATF audits to once per year.
Damn, that is pretty hot. Seems like a lot of full size/duty/competition handguns this year, even the new .380 from Beretta is bigger than you expect a .380 to be. Some cool stuff but honestly I'm kinda disappointed, I was really hoping it'd be the year of the hammer-fired microcompact after the popularity of the Staccato and S&W releasing the CSX last year.
>I was really hoping it'd be the year of the hammer-fired microcompact after the popularity of the Staccato and S&W releasing the CSX last year.
Me too man.
I just want a subcompact 1.5 stack DA/SA, I don't even care if it's in 9 or 380.
Gotta be 9 for me, but yeah, I just want a G48 or P365 equivalent with a hammer and a safety.
Actually, come to think of it, why the frick does nobody make a hammer gun that takes Glock mags and fits in Glock holsters? Mags and holsters are the best thing about Glocks so it'd be a huge advantage of any other type of gun, may as well give it Glock sight dovetails (which would also let them ship it stock with off the shelf Glock sights) and rail sizing as well so WMLs will fit perfectly. I remember there was an airsoft company that made something like that to dodge Glock's lawyers but I've never seen it in a real gun.
If you weren't moronic you'd realize that the mags are the worst part about Glocks. The pieces of shit are too thick to make a P365 equivalent. They'll never make one, they'd sooner make triple plastic coated mags before they make normal thin steel mags like every other company. Remember the fricking .22 they released with a PLASTIC COATED SLIDE that kept breaking off, lmao. Glock is a trash company. Their release for this year... wait for it... a standard G17 but the only change is it has the recoil spring of a 19. I audibly burst into laughter.
The part about the Glock-compatible hammer gun wasn't specifically about the P365 equivalent, just a general thing that the first line made me think of. I was actually imagining something in the G19 size range for that. I don't think using Glock stuff would make as much sense in the microcompact class, the G48 is nowhere near as dominant as the G17 and 19 are in bigger guns, actually it'd probably make more sense to do it with P365 mags and holsters in that size class since it seems to be the most popular in the class and the mags wouldn't lock you into the stupid Glock grip shape and angle.
>worst red flag laws in the country >cannot buy until 21 >mandatory 3 day waiting period without cc license, 5 days in hillsborough county >no constitutional carry >no open carry
A hearty laugh was had. Look champ, if you're in Florida, and you are worried about being red flagged, you got bigger problems. The 21 law sucks though.
Why's Nevada so bad? The only downside I'm aware of is the lack of constitutional CCW, but otherwise they're pretty great and they've got a frickton of BLM land to shoot on.
Its mainly because the last Governor Pissolak was a raging fat gunhater pushed bills through quickly during closed Covid sessions >PMF ban, although subsequently has been thrown out in court >Universal Background Checks (run by State Pigs) >Red Flags >Safe-storage requirements
Also host to some of the scummiest companies in the gun industry
> Also host to some of the scummiest companies in the gun industry
It’s reflective of the state in general. Vegas is a degenerate swinger suburbia off the strip and Carson/Reno is just another sad middle america meth hole.
Good. Rittenhouse did nothing wrong, but the gun and vetbro industry needs to stop propping this gay up and enabling his Instagram e-celeb lifestyle. Why everyone who defends themselves and then (again, rightfully) gets acquited turns into a raging homosexual is beyond me. ZimZam did the exact same thing.
If I ever defended myself in a high-profile shooting, I would become a shameless homosexual and try to get a sponsorship from Beretta or Sig or whoever is the manufacturer of the gun I actually used.
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO CONDEMN YOUR OWN ACTIONS YOU HAVE TO LET THE israeliteS israelite YOU AND THE Black folk Black person YOU
Real talk the fact KR let pigs destroy his gun is already cringe enough, that if he weren’t based otherwise I would be angry.
It's to fight back against the 'communist' narrative. Just disappear and the only people who will have spoken (and spoken the loudest) are the ones screaming that you have no right to save your own life.
Where the frick is the Amicus/Genesis? I would've expected a release around shot show or at least some update. Please don't tell me this is vaporware it's easily the greatest leap forward in small arms development in the past 50-70 years.
I'm sorry to say but I'm pretty sure it's been cancelled, all mention of it has been scrubbed from the TV and Beretta websites and social media, which is a shame because I really liked the idea of it.
moronic business decision honestly. That rifle/ammo were the obvious choice until likely corruption decided that the Shig was the winner. It would do okay on the US civilian market in more common calibers, but foreign military would certainly be interested in it. India and a couple other countries wanted the MDR, but this gun being a short package that can defeat major militaries' body armor, who wouldn't jump on that? All the European countries shaking in their boots about Russia invading, India and Taiwan worried about China invading. Shit, even patriots here worried about our own feds pulling some shit. I think it'd be pretty popular. Of course the Shig would be too but not at the ridiculous $8k price tag they're asking for non US military sales for the next decade or so they're fulfilling their orders.
I'm not saying I disagree, but the Sig MCX Spear is actually going to retail for about $4k according to what they said in a TFBTV interview. It's going to be offered in 308 and then 6.5 Sneedmoor before they release the 277 Fury conversion kits.
At the show too and some dork wearing one of these orgs' shirts struck up a convo with me waiting in line. He had horrible teeth and a patchy teenager beard. Physiognomy is real and the genetically weak are attracted to leftism
Allegedly, it's a bullpup .356 top break revolver with an enclosed cylinder, but all the pictures of it are 3D models and the company is located in the back room of an Armenian bakery in Los Angeles
>the company is located in the back room of an Armenian bakery in Los Angeles
The owner did an interview, and the guns aren't going to be produced in the US.
I don't remember the video, but one of the youtube channels covering Shot Show had a big compilation video with about a 2 minute segment on the Zenk. He also said they're still working on finishing the design of the gun, so still don't get your hopes up too much.
Not that anon, but this is the only brief interview I know of. It's in English, is about 2 minutes long, and is about an hour and 11 minutes into this video:
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Thanks.
Has the armo phenotype, but no accent. Though I have met old guys before with no Accent. Cant tell.
Anyway. Disappointing that that 3d printed render is all he brought. Though I should have expected that, all the photos I saw were CAD models.
Honestly, quite innovative? At least it looks clean. Some companies have hits and misses, I'm gonna say this is a miss and I hope they make a hit soon.
He did quite a lot of modeling and work for it to turn out fake if it is. Missing most of its guts in the model on his site which isn't a good sign but that may just be him protecting his design.
I'm an old boomer now. My bones tell me to get steel pistols with wood grips and I'm not excited for anything new. Wake me up in 5 years when there's some innovation and my desires change.
FN made a new rifle and a new cartridge. Long stroke piston AR18-ish rifle with a folding stock. No details on the new cartridge other than metric designation and some pictures. It’s a 6.5x43. Looks like a grendel/x39 case head with an OAL a little longer than 5.56. 2 piece case. Both case head and cylinder are steel. Maybe it runs at really high pressure? They got Magpul to make 25rd pmags for it. Anyway it’s in the military section of FNs booth so maybe won’t make it to the civilian market.
6.8SPC is an underwhelming compromise in every way, and I say this as someone who loves the cartridge lol and owns a rifle chambered in it. But a 6.8 SPC in 6mm or 6.5mm with a longer ogive and higher pressure, that would be a winner. Magpul already makes 30rd pmags for it, and LWRC makes compatible receivers, so the standard exists and would require less effort from FN to simply copy it.
The new rifle looks really sexy tho. Sexier than a SCAR
>6.5x43. Looks like a grendel/x39 case head with an OAL a little longer than 5.56. 2 piece case. Both case head and cylinder are steel. Maybe
Ooooo I'm interested. Was going to eventually build a grendel because it seemed neat but not a lot of support for grendel out there.
Alright, considering PSA's Battlefield retro line is going to be guns styled after older guns but with some modern modifications for ease of production and marketability in the same line as the HMG STG44. What other guns do you hope PSA might include under such a line. I'm hoping for a smol 5.56 M1 Garand. >much more affordable to shoot than .30-06, for all the people who want a Garand but don't want to pay a dollar or close to it per trigger pull >8 or 10 round mag makes it a major choice in ban states >throw in some modern weight trimming and you have a sleek, lightweight gun for people who's spurs go jingle jangle jingle
The H&R acquisition I believe had the TDP for the M1. I thought I even remember them saying it was a possibility. Floor for Garands is what like 1200 now? Once that creeps up to 1600 might find a way to make new ones cheaper.
Wow surprised rack grades are actually back in stock and it looks like they are 700 or 850 actually. Well next grade up is 1100, so once they are truly done with the rack grades 1100 is the floor.
Gimme a M3 grease gun. Semi auto only kinda sucks but the WWII and post war era tube SMGs should be pretty cheap still. They’d be cool and that’s what I want.
Also a Luger. Lugers would sell like hot cakes if it’s under $1200
en bloc clips would unironically be better than dumb proprietary Mini 14 mags. Also the mini's operating system is closer to an M14 than a Garand and so subsequently the mini 14 does not closely resemble a Garand
Any interviews about PSA's steel cased ammo with details about when and the price? They showed off steel cased 5.45 so at least we know that people who bought AK-74s are still going to have ammo to feed them.
Magic Leap augmented reality shoot house is freaking incredible. If you're still at shot take a look at their booth and do the demo. Can't wait to see what this all looks like in 3-5 years.
ATF more like GAYTF lmoa
Got eem
>ATF more like GAYTF lmoa
Guncel babies getting triggered over this booth is hilarious
Get off the computer and stay on the treadmill you subhuman fed Black person
Federal agents please remember Ok City.
You mean the time we had some of our boys set up a patsy so we could rape your rights even more? It was awesome.
You are statistically morbidly obese to the point your department sent out an internal memo stating it knows youre such a fat piece of shit theyve seen jokes of you on the internet. Gonna have a coronary when some comment rustles your jimmies john.
My favorite part is how you ATF homosexuals killed all those other feds and their kids but conveniently weren't there that day.
Wrong board homosexual
/k/ is a board for weapons, not your pro gun safe space
obese fed intern not having a good start of his week
How's your wife's boyfriend doing?
Probably gaping your ashole you pathetic turbo homosexual.
homosexual it’s not for anime either homie
>implying Ryou wouldn’t have a gun collection as big as her bass collection if guns were allowed in Japan
they're literally just laughing at us
for now
this is the temper tantrum a dying agency throws when folks stop caring about their homosexualry
ATF Booth - bring your service doggo with you.
>watch them all twitching when they can't just start magdumping in the middle of SHIT-Show
It would be ruff for the feds.
Someone fling their own shit at them, it’ll be epic
Henry announced the Homestead 9mm semi-auto carbine. 16.5" barrel, ambidextrous safety, charging handle, and mag release. Threaded barrel. Takes proprietary Henry magazines or Glock/S&W M&P/Sigger P320 mags. $928/$959. Price seems maybe a bit high, we'll have to see what they actually sell for when they hit stores.
Neat gun. The boomerfudd in me likes that it has walnut furniture and blued metal, a nice departure from all tactico0l PCCs we see now.
But I'm sure the same gays that put skeletonized stocks, cartridge holders, suppressors, red dots, and MLOK rails on Henry lever actions will do the same to this gun.
It’s kinda cute
>seething about people using silencers when it clearly comes with a threaded barrel
Suppressors alone are fine. Combined with all the other shit? Go back to redd1t.
Red dots are fine too but I agree putting redditlok on something like that is mega-gay.
What's wrong with thread lock now?
Man, I love all those old PCC, seems today everyone is just making semi-auto SMG's instead. Friend had a Beretta Storm Carbine, was such a nice gun to shoot.
Fricking finally. I've been waiting for someone to release a wood stock for the pug-ugly Ruger PC for years and now I can get this instead.
That's pretty kino. I wish we didn't have gay SBR rules, no reason to have a 16" on a 9mm, I'd rather have a 8"-10".
Nice to see Henry step outside their comfort zone more and more these days. Now if only they'd take a shot at a 12 gauge levergun
It seems the wheels of change move slow for henry but they are moving
>It seems the wheels of change move slow for henry
probably for the best, took them forever to make sideloading gate leverguns but at least they're clearing taking time to get shit right from the start. The concept of a semi-auto 9mm pcc that takes glockazines on paper isn't what you'd expect from Henry but when you can see the final product in picture/video form you can see that it's what Henry would make within those bounds
Henry rep says straight blowback
>Henry rep says straight blowback
Ugh. I understand, but I'm still disappointed.
I have a mini uzi and a cmmg rdb, and the port pop difference is actually really significant.
Delayed blowback is where it's at for these things in my opinion, it just makes it so much nicer.
Holy shit I actually want one of these.
I didn't expect to see anything come from shot this year that I'd actually consider buying outright but that's super attractive to me for some reason.
Is it blowback, or is there some sort of delay system (fingers crossed)?
price is definitely too high.
Most of Henry's stuff is closer to that except their golden boy. Henry makes you pay, but they are easier to get a hold of for some guns (ie., Marlin .357s tend to be unobtanium) and the QC on Henry is top notch. They just werk. My Big Boy was a great shooter.
Poorgay.
Looks nice, but that's not walnut, walnut stain maybe.
I agree with your list overall but
>suppressors
Frick off, EVERY new gun should have a suppressor. They should be like $50-100 otc available instantly. They're basic safety devices despite what the morons in Congress in the 1930s decided.
This. Reduction from 130 db to 100 db helps your ears.
As much as as I wanted a new fudd PCC, this is pretty mediocre looking. At least aesthetically.
Some dude on the ruger subreddit posted a wood stock a few weeks ago and said he'd be making a 10/22 style with the wood handguard so don't give up hope yet.
anon I have no clue what you're trying to say
Frick yes finally. A gun that isn't ugly as frick. Not crazy about the pressed pattern instead of even pressed checkering but honestly it's not bad.
>ruger will never ever
that's the Combat Rifle from Fallout 4
Am I the only one that thinks it'd be neat if someone made a levergun in something like .308 that takes AR10/AICS mags?
I have a lever gun in .308
It takes unique magazines though
Didn't browning make a 308 Lever gun?
The blr. Mines a savage 99c though
Yeah, but it only takes small proprietary mags.
Yeah the BLR. They still make it. Henry also had (has?) one called the Long Ranger. Giving the option for a flush mag and using AR10 mags would be sweet.
Also
>100+5 motherfricking dollars for a magazine
Man this looks sweet but I already have a KP31 that does the same thing with 71 rounds
I like it
Is this a new design or a copy of something from the '60s?
Nice. Price is too high but if its all american made id buy it.
Why is Henry always playing catch up to Marlin? First with the damn side gate, and now this a Marlin camp. I guess it fills a niche. Might get one, but not at that price.
Suppressors are literally fudd shit in Europe, the fact that they're illegal tacticool things in America is moronic
post new shit
What is this thing. A cz glock with a square barrel?
https://www.armscor.com/ria-50
We call it a Squarrel.
dont you make me laugh you prick..
cyber punkin
Damn made in utah. Might have to check that out
Any Anons attending Shot Show, it is your duty to bully the ATF there. Give them dirty looks, call them names, close doors in their face, frick up their orders if you're running a concession stand, double park behind them, etc. Nobody be kind to them. Bully glowies.
ATF = Area To Fart
This, the idea of thousands of dudes just walking in to the booth, ripping nuclear hangover braps born of nasty ass Vegas food marinated in cheap booze then leaving without a word warms my cold little heart.
Drink a shit load of sodas and do a shart squirt so bad that it leaves a poop stain on the carpet of their booth that makes it smell like feces the entire time
Then tell them to die in traffic and bark at them as you leave
>Then tell them to die in traffic and bark at them as you leave
Kek
Me walking through the ATF booth at shot show
S&W released a M&P in 5.7. Interesting gas operated system. They're also doing a big rebate on all M&P handguns, I wonder if they're rolling out a new gen for the other calibers too.
I would buy a 10mm M&P for the rebate but they only come in 4 and 4.6 inches. I'm not wasting my money on a centimeter under 5 inches. Sig needs to make a threaded barrel for the Xten already.
I don’t like that weird inverted pignose it has on Honest Outlaw’s review. Looks like way too much open space
Yeah, I don't know why nobody can make a straight polymer frame after 40 years
>listens to a cuck with a fat wife that says stupid shit on his channel.
I can’t stand “honest outlaw” he’s annoying as frick.
It's odd how he somehow managed to cop a M&P5.7 mere minutes after it was released. Yep, he *totally* isn't a paid shill and *totally* buys his own guns.
I'm assuming a m&p 3.0 will drop later this week
Dude I was about to buy the new FN but this thing looks dope.
I have winter carried a G34 for a long time now probably gonna cop one of these
PSA Rock 5.7 Blows all the others out of the water, that said the S&W is best of all the other options.
The FN 510 Tactical is definitely the best 10mm I felt all day at shot. I shoot a gen 4 G20 regularly and have tried all of the stuff on the market except the Sig X ten.
Talked down to the ATF, probably on a list now but felt good to tell them how it is.
Bummed I missed kommandostore, didn't see em on the app
>PSA Rock 5.7 Blows all the others out of the water
State your reasoning.
Not the anon, but quite simply because it is the sexiest and coolest looking one, and that’s all that matters.
Also has 23rd capacity, Mogs all the other 5.7 pistols.
>but quite simply because it is the sexiest and coolest looking one, and that’s all that matters.
Personal preference.
>Also has 23rd capacity, Mogs all the other 5.7 pistols.
That's only 5%-15% more depending on the model you're comparing it to. Really not that big of a difference.
Looks are subjective but FN 5.7s look like shit. You can argue over what’s left
>Also has 23rd capacity, Mogs all the other 5.7 pistols.
I think you're forgetting about the king of 5.7 pistols
“Pistols”
Meh. Weird gun, not a pistol, not a rifle. I’m talking about the kinds with slides where the mag goes in the grip.
That thing qith a stock is sexy
>Also has 23rd capacity, Mogs all the other 5.7 pistols.
They're Ruger mags though. You can use the 23rd Rock mags in Ruger 57s.
For one, the ergonomics fit a human hand with sexy curves. If you have shot the TX22 Taurus, the rock is basically a 5.7 tx22. Comes threaded and red dot ready, so throw that 5.7 rimfire can and a dot on there and bang some steel. Seriously. I handle a huge range of pistols regularly and for my personal preference the 5.7 rock is the only decent one, and at a fraction of the cost. (The engineer for the rock may have designed the tx22 at Taurus)
Henry Homesteader 9mm carbine
Pretty. I kinda want one.
Takes Glockazines too. I've been wanting a 9mm plinker and the wood appeals to my inner fudd so I'll probably get one down the line, but I do wish the furniture was a bit more like the stuff on their leverguns, not a huge fan of the squared off look or the grip style. Henry likes doing variants so maybe they'll do one with a straight stock and curved handguard later on though.
I really hope they do a 10mm version. Could be a great PrepHole gun that won't freak out the trail normies too much.
If they did the 44 magnum theyd take rugers market for their 44 magnum 10/22 design whatever it was called.
They should be, frick Ruger they discontinued it and are basically unobtainum unless you pay gunjoker prices
new Savage 1911
>$1350
video
?t=19
Maggie is GOAT
>yet another "new" 1911 with the standard >$1000 price tag
Honestly, who cares? At least the SAO Beretta is something new.
PSA STG44
PSA poors, I kneel.
where is the mp5 tho
Put on the back burner until they can't make them less than 1000 while also not being garbage
Seen a ton of blems on AP5s
This is 22lr ?
Don't know yet, admin dropped the picture with no other details. I'm waiting on the guntubers to finally post their videos talking to the companies.
yeah looks like it from the ejection port and barrel and honestly after seeing their initial offerings of other guns in full power cartridges, I wouldn't feel safe if it wasn't just 22lr
It's not .22LR, it's more likely that it's in 5.56
Looks like PSA somehow ended up with the HMG design which was supposed to be available in 8mm Kurz, 5.56, 7.62x39, and .300 BLK
>22lr
These have been around for years.
5.56, 300 AAC, and 7.62x39. no 8mm kurz, so not sure what the point of this abomination really is.
yeah i mean why the heck wouldn't they offer it in a dead caliber that no one uses or makes except one company that charges more than $1/round for the 5 people who actually have authentic WW2 StGs
Because it’s cool. And because you can barrel swap pretty easily to use 5.56 or 7.62 and play with the 8mm Kurtz once a year or whatever.
Also PSA is going to start manufacturing ammo I believe. There’s nothing inherently hard with making 8mm, just no demand. They could sell their own ammo for their own rifle and make a lot of it was $0.60-0.70. Basically no worse than .308 or .300blk and they’d be golden.
The one they have on display at their booth is clearly one of those 22lr GSG guns.
I have one of those, and it is 100% not a GSG.
You're right, I'm a gay moron. I just watched the interview with Hop and it looks like the same prototype they teased years ago.
It's clearly not.
Wrong. There is a video TFB did with it.
it is in 8mm kurz as well as the other three, check TFB's vid
Let me know when they make one in .40 S&W.
Excuse me, wtf is happening here? The STG44 didn't have a smg-style bolt handle safety notch in the receiver. Pic from here: https://www.alloutdoor.com/2023/01/17/shot-2023-psa-battlefield-stg-44/
Nice if true. I've wanted a SAM7K for quite a while, but $1800 MSRP has kept me away. PSA might win me over if I can get a krink for more like $1000-1200.
Semi-related: I wonder if SAM7Ks will drop in price in light of the brace situation.
I hope it hasn't truly been canceled. It was one of the only bullpups that I like, besides the P90/PS90 and AUG. It's one of the few bullpups that isn't visually back heavy. Very straight lines, front to back.
mbk 42h had that notch, altho a lot farther back. I am also at a loss as to why itd be on such a late production repro unless they just wanted to add a bolt hold open without it being an ar style bolt catch. Also looks like it takes stanags so that could be part of it
It's not even a replica, just vaguely StG shaped. Look at the pistol grip/trigger housing.
>It's not even a replica
Which is honestly good. A true replica STG would probably suck. They were a great concept, good for the time, but had a bunch of issues too.
>holosun digital NV/thermal sight
>bearing delayed ar-9
>long recoil ar-15/ar-10
things are getting weird and I like it
delayed ar-9
This seems interesting
Link to holosun thermal?
>Digital nv
No thanks.
yeah i wont be getting it but its a cool step tho. if the thermal version is decent I might grab it, thermals are based on rifles.
>long recoil AR
Where, that sounds so stupid I have to have one
>the gemtech bore-evacuator gasblock for suppressed AR15s
got my pee pee hard
Are there any benefits to using this on an unsuppressed rifle?
It's not magic anon. All it does is direct gas by giving it a path to travel. Less gas blow back on suppressed guns, that's all it is. Do you own Silencers? Do you want to buy the barrel to put on an Upper, or buy a Complete Upper? Answer me that first. Other wise, move on.
My first thought on seeing this is wondering if it could be applied to increasing dwell time on shorter barrels. Not sure if the other anon had the same thought. I would think increasing the volume would slow the gas, assuming subsonic velocities, thereby increasing dwell time but I could be mistaken or overlooking something.
2023 is the year of innovation in small arms industry
Add to that M&P 5.7mm with a rotating barrel action and it's like everybody went for some "light refreshments" at the Kel-Tec booth before setting up their own.
They should start giving those refreshments out at the door every year.
Speaking of Holosun NV/thermal
the atf supposedly has a memo reporting how most of their agents are tubbos
I cant find the image right now but I am sure someone has it
Here you go
thanks frens
Does that shit say ocntradictory
picrel
@56797175
>still thinking they are bringing down gods holy righteousness like that cringelord Elliott Ness
Are there different presenters each day? I’ve seen zero announcements from companies I actually care about. It’s either a bunch of literally who’s or companies rebranding products.
Its just a show floor. Some may decide to show something special not on the first day for whatever reason. Also I think a lot of companies just wait around for others to find and showcase their stuff for them, TFB etc etc
PSA Krink is finally happening, looks like they are going with a peep sight instead of the traditional 74U rear sight.
They should focus on making the AK models that they already have on not being shit before introducing more
Impossible
You are ignorant bucket crab shit birds. Kusa is more of an embarrassment and flaming shit show than psa ever, ever was.
already done. GF3+ is g2g.
They have and all your reeeeing won’t change that
Good, I'm Just waiting for all the PSA post karma like why isn't somebody just dumping all the shit PSA has coming out.
I'm a huge PSA enjoyer
I'm more pissed that not a single other company on the fricking planet for all these years has not had the thought of making decent quality 5.45x39 Krink pistols that aren't $4k+ kit builds.
This might end up being my first PSA purchase.
This sort of thing was the gayTF’s justification for banning 7N6
It was actually a movie prop gun that never saw the light of day.
Nope.
Olympic Arms was advertising AK based pistols in 7.62 and 5.45.
This led to the AP designation on steel core ammo and the ban on import
https://www.guns.com/news/2016/08/11/court-rules-7n6-ammo-lawsuit-in-atfs-favor
https://internationalsportsman.com/federal-judge-upholds-russian-7n6-ammo-ban/
My mistake, it was a Polish pistol that was submitted for approval, but never received it.
I wonder how this lawsuit would fare now post-Bruen.
>pistol brace
>sbr brace
I just want them to sell populated parts kits for these fricking things.
I'll make my own receiver with a coal shovel and a bench vice, just give me the fricking pieces.
No frick you, they shouldnt just like zpap serbs said frick you shitty stupid homebuilders fricking shit up and ruining our names. They dont sell that shit anymore and that us their official stance on the matter.
Oath breakers are the lowest.
They don't look that good and don't have that much budget lol
I would love some kind of comment from shot show about the BATFE being there even if its just explaining they are allowed. Silence is the worst.
any news from kusa about the kr-101?
Where's the shot show content? By this time last year we've already would have had 100 20+ minute long videos by a dozen different big name guntubers
bet YT is filtering vids and striking uploaders by fiat.
idk man i look on yt and i just see boring shit and knives for some reason
homosexualtube suspended a bunch of the gun people for showing a rifle being reloaded or putting on a silencer. That is modifying a rifle according to homosexualtube and is illegal.
Looks like maybe its time for those Leviathan Vassals_R'_Us to finally move to Rumble et all
Genuinely what must it be like to be an ATF agent that gets the Shot Show detail? Do you think they realize basically everyone there hates them/thinks they're a joke? Do they care? Do they feel some sort of shame? Are they invited to any of the cool parties?
I hope they get their rooms swatted. Get a taste of their own medicine.
I'm imaging the ATF is about 90% left leaning, with the remainder being 10% right leaning. Most of the right leaning guys believe they're doing it for the greater good and good cause while a minority of the already right leaning minority are trying to actively change the ATF for the better. Those are the only ones who will feel shame.
ATF used to be a self-described “good ol’ boys” club that partied with strippers and issued “Black person hunting licenses.” After a whistleblower informed congress, the organization got purged, and I’m sure it’s been filling up with left-wing anti-gun activists since at least the Obama administration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Ol%27_Boys_Roundup
Between that, Waco and Ruby Ridge how did the ATF survive!?
My guess is that it really started under Reagan. That was the first time since the NFA that really bullshit gun control started becoming a focus of the agency and it's hard to imagine anybody joining after that unless they were gun grabbers. The Good Ol' Boys Roundup was after that but the whole reason they'd have a private unofficial event like that was probably because they were becoming a minority in the agency.
I've always thought it was a shame the ATF is so bullshit when it comes to guns, because other parts of the agency do some cool shit, especially the counterterrorism stuff involving explosives, but I'd never want to be part of them because of the gun stuff and I'd bet pretty much anybody reasonable feels the same way.
>That was the first time since the NFA that really bullshit gun control started becoming a focus of the agency
you ever wonder how the firearm owners protection act got its name
Y'all need to read up on the GCA and the sheer tyranny of the ATF up until FOPA in '86. Despite FOPA closing the Machine Gun Registry (May William Hughes forever burn in Hell) it did a lot of good, there's a reason it passed despite the poison pill.
Frick the ATF, Frick William J Hughes
Based Gun Law history laureate. ATF has been rotten to the core since its inception. They literally started out as IRS tax_man still busters. The horrid 1968 GCA put them in control of guns nationwide
More gunowners need to learn about just how capricious the Federal Government is
While I'm always happy to see some Temporary Gun Owners in public, the cringe of that booth is painful
What does that mean, temporary gun owners? Because troons rope?
Why the frick does everything have to be about anal sex for them?
>temporary gun owners
Because they will bend the knee and turn in the firearms if demanded. Or what I find most common is that they buy a firearm in snap decision because they correctly realize they need protection in a bad situation. Such as the start of the pandemic, sudden domestic abuse from partner, or uptick in crime in their immediate area. Then later their indoctrination/guilt over having independent thought takes over and they make some dumb video where they saw the barrel in half (accidentally creating a SBR) and then turn it into the police. A then post online claiming they are a "reasonable gun owner".
Seems like a much better idea than Sig's over matched boat anchor
>What does that mean, temporary gun owners?
It means they see guns as a hobby and vote for politicians who aren't pro gun because those politicians support other policies that they consider to be more important, as opposed to falling for the bullshit of the "I could totally be an insurgent if things stopped going the way I wanted, but will never actually do anything because my life would be effectively over" lifestyle while voting against what they consider to be their own best interests. Anyone calling those people "temporary gun owners" expects them to go for the later.
>Why the frick does everything have to be about anal sex for them?
Bro you were the one who brought up anal, not the imaginary gays in your head
Anon, what do you think the fricking rainbows mean?
Rainbows aren't code for anal dude
Yes they are. Have you been living under a rock? A rainbow in any context other than a literal rainbow is a symbol of gay anal sex.
Yeah iirc the NRA wanted the FOPA passed so badly because the ATF was harassing FFLs and trying to put them out of business by auditing them repeatedly. FOPA limited the ATF audits to once per year.
Kommandostore has a table at shot show. What the frick.
It's so they can scan your driver's license when you buy an inert AT mine from them.
>Hey guis member the mateba lol it was joke here have more coffee beans!
how long until PSA sponsors an E3-like showcase/press conference
Picrel one of the nicest 2011’s I’ve ever seen. TFB wrote a piece about it
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2023/01/17/shot-2023-type-eg2011-pistol/
Damn, that is pretty hot. Seems like a lot of full size/duty/competition handguns this year, even the new .380 from Beretta is bigger than you expect a .380 to be. Some cool stuff but honestly I'm kinda disappointed, I was really hoping it'd be the year of the hammer-fired microcompact after the popularity of the Staccato and S&W releasing the CSX last year.
>I was really hoping it'd be the year of the hammer-fired microcompact after the popularity of the Staccato and S&W releasing the CSX last year.
Me too man.
I just want a subcompact 1.5 stack DA/SA, I don't even care if it's in 9 or 380.
Gotta be 9 for me, but yeah, I just want a G48 or P365 equivalent with a hammer and a safety.
Actually, come to think of it, why the frick does nobody make a hammer gun that takes Glock mags and fits in Glock holsters? Mags and holsters are the best thing about Glocks so it'd be a huge advantage of any other type of gun, may as well give it Glock sight dovetails (which would also let them ship it stock with off the shelf Glock sights) and rail sizing as well so WMLs will fit perfectly. I remember there was an airsoft company that made something like that to dodge Glock's lawyers but I've never seen it in a real gun.
>P365 equivalent
>Glock mags
If you weren't moronic you'd realize that the mags are the worst part about Glocks. The pieces of shit are too thick to make a P365 equivalent. They'll never make one, they'd sooner make triple plastic coated mags before they make normal thin steel mags like every other company. Remember the fricking .22 they released with a PLASTIC COATED SLIDE that kept breaking off, lmao. Glock is a trash company. Their release for this year... wait for it... a standard G17 but the only change is it has the recoil spring of a 19. I audibly burst into laughter.
The part about the Glock-compatible hammer gun wasn't specifically about the P365 equivalent, just a general thing that the first line made me think of. I was actually imagining something in the G19 size range for that. I don't think using Glock stuff would make as much sense in the microcompact class, the G48 is nowhere near as dominant as the G17 and 19 are in bigger guns, actually it'd probably make more sense to do it with P365 mags and holsters in that size class since it seems to be the most popular in the class and the mags wouldn't lock you into the stupid Glock grip shape and angle.
Has anyone published an article on what CGS has brought to the show?
> ATF - We do not collect information through this account
Honest!
Shot Show is now apparently a Goon Meet.
Apparently the homosexuals at the casino canned the meetup.
Reminder that Nevada now counts as an Anti-gun state
>FL
What, just because we can't open carry?
>red flag laws
>no guns until 21
>worst red flag laws in the country
>cannot buy until 21
>mandatory 3 day waiting period without cc license, 5 days in hillsborough county
>no constitutional carry
>no open carry
>worst red flag laws in the country
A hearty laugh was had. Look champ, if you're in Florida, and you are worried about being red flagged, you got bigger problems. The 21 law sucks though.
Oregon still doesn't sucks bad as Washington or California
It's pretty shitty, but at least they're fighting back against bullshit laws. Washington rolled over like a dog.
Yeah I mean 114 is still not in effect here (I think, don't really care that much) and until 114 we're still one of the more based states
Why's Nevada so bad? The only downside I'm aware of is the lack of constitutional CCW, but otherwise they're pretty great and they've got a frickton of BLM land to shoot on.
They are screwing over Polymer80 by making a law to explicitly come after their products.
Its mainly because the last Governor Pissolak was a raging fat gunhater pushed bills through quickly during closed Covid sessions
>PMF ban, although subsequently has been thrown out in court
>Universal Background Checks (run by State Pigs)
>Red Flags
>Safe-storage requirements
Also host to some of the scummiest companies in the gun industry
> Also host to some of the scummiest companies in the gun industry
It’s reflective of the state in general. Vegas is a degenerate swinger suburbia off the strip and Carson/Reno is just another sad middle america meth hole.
>Why's Nevada so bad?
Who do you think runs the casinos? Who?!
Good. Rittenhouse did nothing wrong, but the gun and vetbro industry needs to stop propping this gay up and enabling his Instagram e-celeb lifestyle. Why everyone who defends themselves and then (again, rightfully) gets acquited turns into a raging homosexual is beyond me. ZimZam did the exact same thing.
You mad jelly that they make money off of their shooting and aftermath from being targeted by the antigun crowd
More like embarrassed.
Strongest Rittenhouse groupie
If I ever defended myself in a high-profile shooting, I would become a shameless homosexual and try to get a sponsorship from Beretta or Sig or whoever is the manufacturer of the gun I actually used.
This. I’ll market the frick out of their gun for them. Hook me up with the rest of your product lines and send me ammo and I’ll shill for them.
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO CONDEMN YOUR OWN ACTIONS YOU HAVE TO LET THE israeliteS israelite YOU AND THE Black folk Black person YOU
Real talk the fact KR let pigs destroy his gun is already cringe enough, that if he weren’t based otherwise I would be angry.
It's to fight back against the 'communist' narrative. Just disappear and the only people who will have spoken (and spoken the loudest) are the ones screaming that you have no right to save your own life.
I hope he shoots you next, /leftyk/.
what the frick does this child have to say lol, there are good self defense shootings every day, he's just a nerd who happened to be on camera
Where's your self defensive shooting with an AR or any gun? Sounds like another nogun lefty pantifa mad that their pedo colleagues got killed.
He can receive my privates.
do anons ever email these guys tips?
I dont think they specify on what kind of tips
im pretty sure if you think its a good idea, you could email them sentences that encourage them to either quit their job or kys
It would be better if someone had a list of their addresses and put out tips on the agents
Where the frick is the Amicus/Genesis? I would've expected a release around shot show or at least some update. Please don't tell me this is vaporware it's easily the greatest leap forward in small arms development in the past 50-70 years.
I'm sorry to say but I'm pretty sure it's been cancelled, all mention of it has been scrubbed from the TV and Beretta websites and social media, which is a shame because I really liked the idea of it.
moronic business decision honestly. That rifle/ammo were the obvious choice until likely corruption decided that the Shig was the winner. It would do okay on the US civilian market in more common calibers, but foreign military would certainly be interested in it. India and a couple other countries wanted the MDR, but this gun being a short package that can defeat major militaries' body armor, who wouldn't jump on that? All the European countries shaking in their boots about Russia invading, India and Taiwan worried about China invading. Shit, even patriots here worried about our own feds pulling some shit. I think it'd be pretty popular. Of course the Shig would be too but not at the ridiculous $8k price tag they're asking for non US military sales for the next decade or so they're fulfilling their orders.
I'm not saying I disagree, but the Sig MCX Spear is actually going to retail for about $4k according to what they said in a TFBTV interview. It's going to be offered in 308 and then 6.5 Sneedmoor before they release the 277 Fury conversion kits.
Lmao, so trying to israelite out a few sales of the less desirable versions before releasing a Frankenversion then the real thing?
I hope this ugly piece of trash was canned along with it's potato supressor. Rest in hell.
>big brother face as the background for any video filmed with them
Of course.
"They're saying Boo-urns."
>the untouchables
What is the next level after projecting?
pretty good show so far
Is that ironic?
why would it be?
I thought the mentally ill weren't allowed to own firearms.
dont insult the nra like that kiddo
Thats either intentional sarcasm or the most oblivious attempt at corporate astroturfing
Trying to bait morons into acting violent
probably responsible for 10 boomer heat attacks this week so okay in my book
>Going that far and not handing out John Brown bust buttplugs
>special needs kids floor mat puzzle pieces
>suicide rate: 100%
At the show too and some dork wearing one of these orgs' shirts struck up a convo with me waiting in line. He had horrible teeth and a patchy teenager beard. Physiognomy is real and the genetically weak are attracted to leftism
So this thing's fake, right?
What the hell is that? Bullpup revolver?
Allegedly, it's a bullpup .356 top break revolver with an enclosed cylinder, but all the pictures of it are 3D models and the company is located in the back room of an Armenian bakery in Los Angeles
Obviously I meant .357
I'm taking a week off of work so naturally I've been drunk the entire time
>the company is located in the back room of an Armenian bakery in Los Angeles
The owner did an interview, and the guns aren't going to be produced in the US.
Source? All I can find are the same 2 promotional images and a bunch of articles saying the Armenian dude has a booth.
I don't remember the video, but one of the youtube channels covering Shot Show had a big compilation video with about a 2 minute segment on the Zenk. He also said they're still working on finishing the design of the gun, so still don't get your hopes up too much.
So it'll never happen then
I'm not sure that was the owner, certainly didn't have an Armenian accent, which I would've expected from a guy who runs an Armenian bakery
>The owner did an interview, and the guns aren't going to be produced
Correct.
Link to interview? Am Armenian, will confirm.
Not that anon, but this is the only brief interview I know of. It's in English, is about 2 minutes long, and is about an hour and 11 minutes into this video:
Thanks.
Has the armo phenotype, but no accent. Though I have met old guys before with no Accent. Cant tell.
Anyway. Disappointing that that 3d printed render is all he brought. Though I should have expected that, all the photos I saw were CAD models.
That’s cool in a novelty way, but I don’t get the appeal. Somebody please just make a normal 4-6” top break .357. It’s all I want.
Honestly, quite innovative? At least it looks clean. Some companies have hits and misses, I'm gonna say this is a miss and I hope they make a hit soon.
He did quite a lot of modeling and work for it to turn out fake if it is. Missing most of its guts in the model on his site which isn't a good sign but that may just be him protecting his design.
New HiPoint just dropped for poorgays & people who like to mess around
I'm an old boomer now. My bones tell me to get steel pistols with wood grips and I'm not excited for anything new. Wake me up in 5 years when there's some innovation and my desires change.
>I'm an old boomer now
Okay zoomer.
FN made a new rifle and a new cartridge. Long stroke piston AR18-ish rifle with a folding stock. No details on the new cartridge other than metric designation and some pictures. It’s a 6.5x43. Looks like a grendel/x39 case head with an OAL a little longer than 5.56. 2 piece case. Both case head and cylinder are steel. Maybe it runs at really high pressure? They got Magpul to make 25rd pmags for it. Anyway it’s in the military section of FNs booth so maybe won’t make it to the civilian market.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2023/01/18/shot-show-2023-fn-americas-new-individual-weapon-system/
kek why not just make a SCAR-L in 6.8 SPC?
6.8SPC is an underwhelming compromise in every way, and I say this as someone who loves the cartridge lol and owns a rifle chambered in it. But a 6.8 SPC in 6mm or 6.5mm with a longer ogive and higher pressure, that would be a winner. Magpul already makes 30rd pmags for it, and LWRC makes compatible receivers, so the standard exists and would require less effort from FN to simply copy it.
The new rifle looks really sexy tho. Sexier than a SCAR
>6.8 SPC in 6mm or 6.5mm with a longer ogive and higher pressure,
Could be neat.
>6.5x43. Looks like a grendel/x39 case head with an OAL a little longer than 5.56. 2 piece case. Both case head and cylinder are steel. Maybe
Ooooo I'm interested. Was going to eventually build a grendel because it seemed neat but not a lot of support for grendel out there.
Any videos or other details covering PSA's steel cased ammo? I saw a pic in another thread yesterday, but I haven't seen any other info on it.
Alright, considering PSA's Battlefield retro line is going to be guns styled after older guns but with some modern modifications for ease of production and marketability in the same line as the HMG STG44. What other guns do you hope PSA might include under such a line. I'm hoping for a smol 5.56 M1 Garand.
>much more affordable to shoot than .30-06, for all the people who want a Garand but don't want to pay a dollar or close to it per trigger pull
>8 or 10 round mag makes it a major choice in ban states
>throw in some modern weight trimming and you have a sleek, lightweight gun for people who's spurs go jingle jangle jingle
The H&R acquisition I believe had the TDP for the M1. I thought I even remember them saying it was a possibility. Floor for Garands is what like 1200 now? Once that creeps up to 1600 might find a way to make new ones cheaper.
>I thought I even remember them saying it was a possibility.
I dont remember if it was on twitter or an AMA somewhere but this was brought up by PSA
I think it was on arf
it was on arfcom
H&R has machining tools for Garand revievers?
no they have the TDP from H&R, none of the tools. they'd be doing it with modern machines, probably cnc IIRC.
Do you have interest in trains?
>Floor for Garands is what like 1200
They're $650 from the CMP you dumb homosexual
Wow surprised rack grades are actually back in stock and it looks like they are 700 or 850 actually. Well next grade up is 1100, so once they are truly done with the rack grades 1100 is the floor.
STEN that takes modern pistol mags
I can't think of anything else I'd want right now after reading that. Someone get this idea to PSA.
>smol 5.56 M1 Garand.
you know ruger could make this happen whenever they wanted. they just take the mini-14 and give it the en bloc clip.
my suggestion is a BAR.
I'm hoping for a 9mm M1 Carbine.
(the old Iver Johnson was gas-operated)
Gimme a M3 grease gun. Semi auto only kinda sucks but the WWII and post war era tube SMGs should be pretty cheap still. They’d be cool and that’s what I want.
Also a Luger. Lugers would sell like hot cakes if it’s under $1200
I'd get one, but only if it was the Filipino tacticool version with pic rails and a threaded barrel
>smol 5.56 M1 Garand.
Wait now I want that too what the frick
So a Mini 14, but worse?
en bloc clips would unironically be better than dumb proprietary Mini 14 mags. Also the mini's operating system is closer to an M14 than a Garand and so subsequently the mini 14 does not closely resemble a Garand
new production tanker Garands would be cool
a new tanker Garand in 8mm kurz if they're really bringing it back. Make the best late war "what if?" gun
5.56 would be cool but .308 makes a lot more sense, and clips already exist for it.
It's not like making clips would add much to the cost of bringing up production. They're much simpler to produce than mags.
New production M1919's or Mg34's.
Don't forget to bring ur pupper
Why don't they just bring Lujan to Shot Show?
She was there here she's with the israelitemando store crew.
Did she literally make a career of being mildly attractive around guntubers now
She's an absolute dog without the photo/video filters.
What mad scientist's contraption did Ravin bring to Shot Show this year?
The Holosun thermal/red dot combo looks sweet
Any interviews about PSA's steel cased ammo with details about when and the price? They showed off steel cased 5.45 so at least we know that people who bought AK-74s are still going to have ammo to feed them.
BREAKING NEWS
So bad news? Not a slav gun owner nor a fan of their stuff either.
This feels like the best Shot Show in years, with companies actually releasing new and exciting stuff.
Magic Leap augmented reality shoot house is freaking incredible. If you're still at shot take a look at their booth and do the demo. Can't wait to see what this all looks like in 3-5 years.
>Magic Leap augmented reality shoot house is freaking incredible.
That sounds cool as shit