Shilka=total garbage

How is the Shilka getting out performed by the Flakpanzer Gepard when the Yooks only have 30 Flakpanzers while having a prewar inventory of several hundred Shilkas? Is the Shilka just total shit or was it just a nightmare to maintain readiness compared to the German counterpart?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How is the Shilka getting out performed by the Flakpanzer Gepard
    Let me guess, Twitter told you that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The total lack of footage of Shilkas seen in operation from either side and the total shit performance the Shilka had in Gulf I, Yugoslavia, Gulf II, and Lybia

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are an NPC

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have a real counterpoint that explains the Shilka is actually good, morongay?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No he just has Buzzwords. Dont expect anything else

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate to say it, but there's not a total lack of footage of the shilka.
        Ukes used them against infantry a bunch of times, and have blown up RF ones.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have a look at the computation of a shilka. It's horrible.

    A shilka is more useful in it's separate parts than put together.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair, shilka also cheaper than gepard so it's understandable that they perform worse.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the lack of a search radar. Also, it's a nightmare to operate, user interface so unintuitive that only something as inhuman as a r*ssian could have dreamt it up

    Some autist made a simulator of it, gives a decent picture how it is to operate one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is some jankcore 1960s level shit lmao.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >things from 60s are from 60s
        wow incredible

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know ow shit about SPAAGs but is it impossible to rip out the orginal computer systems and radars and replace it with a superior western designed radar and controls? From what I understand the user interface is also trash on Russian systems compared to shit you see in the West and East Asia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its a soviet analog monstrosity, so no

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m sure it’s possible, and I’m sure someone has thought of it, but figuring out how to mate the technology would take a while and it would also be expensive enough to not make it worth it over simply buying newer NATO SPAAGS.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its a soviet analog monstrosity, so no

        They probably had to adhere to a bunch of inane and complicated standards and regulations for designing weapon control systems written by people who had no idea how these things work.

        Poland did modernize theirs with E/O trackers and manpads

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Poland did
          So it's an even bigger piece of shit than before?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Polishing turd will only get you so far

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            SEETHING

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          See, this is what I would have expected, by now:

          This warsaw pact stuff, that Ukraine had, or captured, or got given. Czech and Polish companies have been given it to repair right?

          But shouldn't it have been determined what the best version of that equipment was, with the most upgrades, and everything sent for repairs came back as the best version?

          Ukraines BDRMs, were they finished being repaired? How did they come back? As picrel? Somehow I doubt it. Yet they absolutely should have done. There shouldn't be a piece of equipment either donated, captured or pre-existing Ukrainian stock that doesn't have an upgrade package generated for it waiting for when it must be refurbished.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are a couple of problems with modernizing Slavshit:
            1) You can upgrade something only so much and there's always the problem of age - most of Soviet vehicles are rusted through so it might not be worth salvaging them.
            2) Russia holds a chokehold on spare parts, that is if they even can make them.
            3) Why the fuck would you? You can get previous generation NATO stuff for cheap and it will be an immense upgrade over whatever you had. Why would you upgrade Shilkas or BRDMs if you can just get Gepards, M1117s, VABs or fucking MRAPs.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well the idea is you upgrade 20 shilkas with new radar and electronics for the price of 1 state of the art western equivalent, with a little smarts you save tons of steel and manufacturing resources. The problem is Russia suffered from a serious brain drain over of the past few decades, star students study in reputable Russian universities then, leave, for better and brighter things in sunnier climes. There are few capable of hooking these up, only corrupt vatniks who core out the electronics to sell the copper for krokodil and tell their officer they completely it flawlessly who in turn tell their superiors everything's fine and dandy. The kind of person who mentions problems or accepts constructive criticism is considered weak, so they deny they ever exist and deny it to the ends of the earth even when it is proven in front of their face, they won't say anything. Honest reasonable people basically don't exist. The only time a vatnik ever does any good work is half-assed effort for his own sake or a half-assed effort with someone bigger and stronger breathing down their neck browbeating them into doing the work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not impossible, it's just the money is better spent elsewhere, the majority of the time. SPAAGs were not considered relevant until this war, and shilkas were kept around for their urban combat possibilities. If Shilkas were *all* Ukraine had, you can bet anything they would have hacked the shit out of them, given them radar, etc. They probably wish they had time to now.

        I'm starting to get the picture from Ukraine that a year in they are much less organised at regrouping their assets than would be ideal. A lot of the captured shit they have hasn;t made it into the field because they don't have a proper register of parts for the captured equipment that is accessible and that can have requests submitted, with the result being battalions hoarding broken shit because "It might come in use to us".

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's being done, entirely domestically.
        But I have to say, it did have a radar. A bad one, but still

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How can that even be more effective then two guys with a 40mm bofors. Thanks god western MIC for modern firecontrol systems

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      far out the training requirements to operate that thing

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do wonder just why the soviets were so terrible at ergonomic and userfriendly design. Like all their stuff looks pretty good on paper and then you have a look inside and it's an unintuitve mess that nobody can operate efficiently

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They probably had to adhere to a bunch of inane and complicated standards and regulations for designing weapon control systems written by people who had no idea how these things work.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Shilka=total garbage
    I think that it has good enough fire power, but lacks of proper target acquisition system, so it's useless against small air targets like drones and tactical missiles. this is why most of shilka footage is against ground targets and not air.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no shilka footage
    >a little bit of gepard footage
    >shilka=total garbage, outperformed by gepard
    shilka is outdated commie garbage but youre retarded anyway with that line of thinking

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >while having a prewar inventory of several hundred Shilkas?
    source?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because the Gepard was modernized in the 90's to early 2000's. It has much more modern radar and ballistics computers, and therefore can much easier spot, track and engage targets

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't Shilka a vehicle from a different generation? Why are you like this pidor?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    brainlet thread OP you are comparing ww2 tech to something reasonably modern

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How is the Shilka getting out performed by
    Substantiate your claims.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How is the Shilka getting out performed by the Flakpanzer Gepard?
    Shilka in service from 1960–present
    Flakpanzer Gepard in service from 1976–present.
    Shilka uses vacuum tubes in it's FCS ffs.

    It's like asking why do 30 Leo 2 perform better than several hundred T-62.

    You're an idiot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *cute jingle starts playing*

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a prewar inventory of several hundred Shilkas
    Most of them were mothballed soviet style, effectively abandoned. Then many barrels were used as spares for ZU. Now they are being restored and modernised (new optical channel, missiles and AESA radar), but it started only like 3 months ago. And even in such a short time they are already in service, I heard them several times already, and saw a successful interception

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP can't believe that a Shilka doesn't do well against tiny suicide drones
    >Gepard with fancy proxy airburst is perfect for swatting them
    >Ignores all the reports of UAF praising Shilka for giving good fire support in assaults
    just doesn't make sense I tells ya

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP is a gay, what a shocker!

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