>Ukrainian guns with red dots, scopes, etc
>Russian guns with nothing
Is it general in this conflict?
What are your chances in a battle if you have no scope/red dot, but the enemy has.
>Ukrainian guns with red dots, scopes, etc
>Russian guns with nothing
Is it general in this conflict?
What are your chances in a battle if you have no scope/red dot, but the enemy has.
Not really sure
I'd check if the US military has done any studies on combat effectiveness with scopes
>optics
Also, magnification might be useful at times when fighting in these open fields but for closer ranges or urban combat less so.
Ukraine is a very beautiful country I might go after this whole thing is over. Look at those sexy rivers...
Spetsnaz don't like optics, this isn't call of duty.
Spetsnaz are also rated critically endangered by the IUCN.
Based deadnik enjoyer
optics are for weak decadent westerners, real men use AKMs so old that the iron sights have rusted away
>not divining away where the rounds will hit
get on my level
you gotta read the tea leaves before each battle to know where the rounds will hit
>Russia doesn't have chinksun lend lease optics
-ukraine doesn't have crimea, donbass, lugansk, kherson and zaporzhyzhyzhy
seems fair
Ahh sick I needed a new list of shit to tick off when the Yooks retake it
My last two lists are fully complete!
there aren't any russhit troops equipped like the guys on the right anymore lol
the carpet on the tank is probably the most meaningful thing I've seen the vatnik army do. Instead they unite under a meaningless Z and embrace being 'orks'. Fricking idiots lost before they began, which is good, because frick them.
yeah, that's the average russhit conscript loadout nowadays
this war was basically a time machine backwards for the vatBlack person military
>you will never ride on a tank with the boys and your nanna’s best rug
>that dude with hearing protection and comically large clip
the optics make a minor difference but they also speak to the general logistic and supply situation of both armies.
Its not a deciding factor, its just quality of life. Having optics is like having good comfortable boots, its not the difference between life or death but they make things much easier. On the other hand, having highly magnified optics (say, 6x+) and thermals are a game changer.
>like having good comfortable boots
>its not the difference between life or death but they make things much easier.
ill disagree on that, i'd happily trade a red dot for good pair of boots, you really don't give its due value until your feet are completely broken from shity boots
the guys on the left lost 20% of ukraine to vasya the electrician with a mosin
and more silly vatBlack person lies we tell ourselves
Good optics are a force multiplier but not a game breaker. Incompetence, on the other hand...
I think marksmanship trumps optics any day, but good optics will make an average marksman an exceptional one.
The Talibans didn't have scopes, red dots, suppressors, IR lasers, vertical grips, and so on.
They didn't have antitank missiles, drones, night/thermal visions, armored vehicles, tanks, jets, artillery, etc either
Who still won?
So, if russia lost then I guess Taliban won.
The Taliban beat the ANA because the latter ran away.
Interestingly enough, Ukrainians in 2014 USED to look like the Russians of 2022 on some level.'
The tables have turned.
No optics means no NVGs. You cannot aim under night vision without a NVG capable optic, so the fact that Russia does not issue optics to line infantry means that they have next to zero night fighting capability, which is not good going into winter. 0XGADH