serious questions

>Ukrainian guns with red dots, scopes, etc
>Russian guns with nothing

Is it general in this conflict?
What are your chances in a battle if you have no scope/red dot, but the enemy has.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not really sure
    I'd check if the US military has done any studies on combat effectiveness with scopes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >optics
      Also, magnification might be useful at times when fighting in these open fields but for closer ranges or urban combat less so.
      Ukraine is a very beautiful country I might go after this whole thing is over. Look at those sexy rivers...

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Spetsnaz don't like optics, this isn't call of duty.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spetsnaz are also rated critically endangered by the IUCN.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      optics are for weak decadent westerners, real men use AKMs so old that the iron sights have rusted away

      Based deadnik enjoyer

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    optics are for weak decadent westerners, real men use AKMs so old that the iron sights have rusted away

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not divining away where the rounds will hit
      get on my level

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you gotta read the tea leaves before each battle to know where the rounds will hit

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia doesn't have chinksun lend lease optics
    -ukraine doesn't have crimea, donbass, lugansk, kherson and zaporzhyzhyzhy

    seems fair

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ahh sick I needed a new list of shit to tick off when the Yooks retake it
      My last two lists are fully complete!

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    there aren't any russhit troops equipped like the guys on the right anymore lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the carpet on the tank is probably the most meaningful thing I've seen the vatnik army do. Instead they unite under a meaningless Z and embrace being 'orks'. Fucking idiots lost before they began, which is good, because fuck them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, that's the average russhit conscript loadout nowadays
        this war was basically a time machine backwards for the vatmoron military

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you will never ride on a tank with the boys and your nanna’s best rug

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that dude with hearing protection and comically large clip

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the optics make a minor difference but they also speak to the general logistic and supply situation of both armies.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its not a deciding factor, its just quality of life. Having optics is like having good comfortable boots, its not the difference between life or death but they make things much easier. On the other hand, having highly magnified optics (say, 6x+) and thermals are a game changer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >like having good comfortable boots
      >its not the difference between life or death but they make things much easier.
      ill disagree on that, i'd happily trade a red dot for good pair of boots, you really don't give its due value until your feet are completely broken from shity boots

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the guys on the left lost 20% of ukraine to vasya the electrician with a mosin

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and more silly vatmoron lies we tell ourselves

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good optics are a force multiplier but not a game breaker. Incompetence, on the other hand...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think marksmanship trumps optics any day, but good optics will make an average marksman an exceptional one.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Talibans didn't have scopes, red dots, suppressors, IR lasers, vertical grips, and so on.
    They didn't have antitank missiles, drones, night/thermal visions, armored vehicles, tanks, jets, artillery, etc either
    Who still won?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So, if russia lost then I guess Taliban won.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Taliban beat the ANA because the latter ran away.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Interestingly enough, Ukrainians in 2014 USED to look like the Russians of 2022 on some level.'

    The tables have turned.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No optics means no NVGs. You cannot aim under night vision without a NVG capable optic, so the fact that Russia does not issue optics to line infantry means that they have next to zero night fighting capability, which is not good going into winter. 0XGADH

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