No Chinese tanks, no Chinese artillery, no Chinese planes, no IFVS, no small arms, nothing to their "ally" except drones which they also sell to their allies enemy. Why is this the case?
*Sends literally zero weapons to help Russia*
No Chinese tanks, no Chinese artillery, no Chinese planes, no IFVS, no small arms, nothing to their "ally" except drones which they also sell to their allies enemy. Why is this the case?
In reality China is helping Russia evade sanctions. They’re selling them aircraft parts, navigation systems, drones, electronics and other dual-use tech. They’ve dramatically increased their purchases of Russian energy and have given Russia use of their financial systems letting them bypass banking / credit card restrictions. They’re massively supporting Russia, just not selling them complete weapons systems.
Here’s your crackpipe
He's correct THOUGH
“No”
Everything he said is correct, you dumb moron.
Weren't the Chinese literally caught smuggling weapons to Russia?
They were caught smuggling 1000 AR-15 clones marked as hunting rifles
So sounds like they were supplying weapons
Can you gays stop parroting the word ''literally'' ?
Can you stop posting selfies?
Don’t you have a street to shit in, instead of shitting up this threat? I have my doubts
its good, let Russia be another anchor to China's legs
China isn't supporting Russia, they're just buying their oil at a bargain price just like India. Also selling them electronics, but they sell them to everyone including NATO and Ukraine. They're not an ally of Russia, it's literally just business.
>Ukraine
Wrong. They don't sell to Ukraine and and cancel their deliveries in other countries if they suspect they're going to Ukraine.
how is ukraine still using chinese drones then
The same way russia avoids sanctions - they smuggle.
There’s no smuggling with Russia. There are a bunch of 3rd-party countries who don’t enforce the sanctions and those suppliers can get basically anything Russia wants, completely legal. Russia is literally buying American electronics for their war industry RIGHT NOW by just going through different suppliers. The US has already admitted electronics exports to Russia have returned to pre-war levels. The EU sanctions are even weaker. The US is considering applying sanctions to those 3rd-party countries too but have not gone that far yet.
>completely legal
The fact that EU/US can't enforce it in third world shitholes doesn't make it legal, that's still avoiding sanctions. Today a guy was arrested in Cyprus and will be extradited to US for doing exactly that.
Lol it's always Cyprus
almost like its a hive of scum and villainy
The US isn’t the Emperor of Holy Terra. If a country doesn’t want to participate in sanctions they don’t have to. Like Israel who refuses to do sanctions but also declared that Israel won’t "become an avenue’ for evasion. Bullshit of course if they meant it they’d just do the sanctions. The Reddit-tier liberal shills really struggle with Israel always seeming to be on Russia’s side one way or another; they don’t know what narrative to go with and try to ignore it as much as possible.
>strawmanning
not sure who you thought would address your non-sequitur but that's nice, dear
Middle eastern and Mediterranean powers are always going to play both sides, it's been so throughout history. Israel also has tons of Russian garden gnomes due to diaspora
>The US isn’t the Emperor of Holy Terra.
With the EU G7 and NATO it actually is.
Lol sure bro, keep believing that. Nice ruble btw.
If you weren’t an NPC you’d be asking why Russia is able to mass-produce drones and tanks after almost 1.5 years of severe sanction strangulation. Then you might Google it and immediately learn that Russia is evading the sanction by going through other countries which don’t enforce the sanctions. It’s not difficult to understand: if supplier x can no longer sell you find supplier y who will. So all the sanctions have actually done so far is to increase the price of things Russia imports while killing that market in sanction-participating countries and moving it to 3rd-party countries. And this is no exaggeration the US recently admitted that, for example, Russian imports of electronics have reached pre-war levels.
>you’d be asking why Russia is able to mass-produce drones and tanks after almost 1.5 years of severe sanction strangulation
Not really, you're just a midwit. that's the reality for North Korea and Iran hence why nobody is questioning that whatsoever.
North Korea and Iran are selling them mass amounts of American electronics? Why would you call me a midwit and then flaunt your ignorance of the topic in the same breath? And Russia is mass-producing an Israeli drone (Lancet) not because of NK or Iran.
>purposefully misunderstanding the post
North Korea and Iran are under heavy sanctions and have been for a lot longer than 1.5 years, little one
>why Russia is able to mass produce drones and tanks after a year
Anon... Which drones, the ones they bought from Iran at a loss? Which tanks? The ones that are so fast off the production line they had to take out fucking T-60s? Russians can't import shit anymore, and if they manage to skirt sanctions for a chip here and there, that chip is definitely going for a boutique project there'll be like, 1 of. Please, engage in observation and critical thought before calling others NPCs, since it seems you're very apt in psychological projection.
Russia is not mass producing tanks now and has not for a long long time. What they have done for 20 years is haul the best of the relics they have in the metal graveyards in Siberia, apply some body kits, era and cheap wiring and optics, baofend radio in a shell on a different freq, call it new thing and sell it to retards in Algeria etc. Its why the tank reserve they have left is so fucked, its been picked over for anything of value for exports or scrap for 20 years. They don't built T90s from scratch and never have. Their military clients like India and Algeria are corrupt shitholes that place orders with Russia for kickbacks.
>Russia is able to mass produce drones and tanks after a year
Laughing at you and the world is laughing at Russia and its bullshit and lies. Mass producing ass in ass more like.
Anon I think you meant to reply to the original poster not twice to me. I was rebutting the awful cope that muh sanctions don't work.
>Mass producing ass in ass more like.
Chuckled
False, Russia runs the largest tank factory in the world (inherited from the USSR). They’re building (claimed) a 1000 T-90Ms which are all new tanks from scratch, and 500 T-72B3s which are upgrades to existing T-72s. Back in 2021 the factory was putting out 35 tanks a month but they’ve now dramatically increased production. All of this is easily found online but the Reddit children of PrepHole are so dedicated to propaganda and group-think they don’t care and only narratives that feel good are acceptable. You literally claimed Russia doesn’t make ranks. That’s you.
first
>I read it on the internet
lol, lmao
what bro, if you read it on the internet, that means its true!!!
russia would have no cause to lie about their production capacities!!!
>(claimed)
Can we see these mythical thousand T-90s? Because the reality is that Russia had to steal T-90s from India that they were refurbishing and have been pushing T-62s to the front
I’m not denying the Indian T-90 theft story outright because it may be possible — but is there even a single reputable source for that? And as for production claims no one knows. All we can do is look for photos like the one I posted showing new tanks being delivered from the factory. Even if the 1000 new tank number is true it doesn’t cover even 1/3rd of their losses so it shouldn’t be shocking to learn they’re also pulling junkers out if mothballs.
This T-90S is configured in the typical Indian manner. The T-90S is a typical export model though and it isn’t impossible that it just one they had laying around.
>NOOO SANCTIONS AREN'T WORKING
Tantrums aren't a good look anon.
>so desperate they are now sending out tanks without fitting the cope cage first
the absolute state
Shaheds are produced in Iran and modded in Russia. I’m obviously talking about Lancet which is a copy of an Israeli product but which is fully manufactured in Russia using key components imported from non-sanction countries.
I'm asking why Russia has the largest land mass in the world and needs to import so much in the first place
because that landmass is sadly infested with a very destructive parasite organism, called 'Slavs'
>how is ukraine still using chinese drones then
it's well known that polish hobbyists semi-frequently buy thousands of drones at a time for personal use
>it's well known that polish hobbyists semi-frequently buy thousands of drones at a time for personal use
Jako Polak potwierdzam, chińskie gówno często się psuje i trzeba od razu kupować cały kontener na zapas :^)
I wouldn't put it past Xi to have some sekrit alliance with SBU. All the while pretending to be supportive of Russia.
Remember how Phil Leotardo got whacked? His own people got sick of his extreme warmongering and let Jersey kill him.
Yes I just compared Putin to Phil Leotardo.
>both warmongering retards
>closet gays
>blames others flr every perceived slight; incapable of personal growth
Kind of insulting to Phil, but I’ll still Venmo any who makes a ´Virgin Putin v. The Also Virgin Phil Leotardo’.
Or maybe let Phil be the Chad for once, who am I to interfere with [what these days passes for] art.
>They don't sell to Ukraine and and cancel their deliveries in other countries if they suspect they're going to Ukraine.
Source needed.
Why does Chinese DJY company directly sell drones to Ukraine and refuse to sell its drones to puzzoids?
https://zaxid.net/kitayskiy_virobnik_fpv_droniv_vidmovivsya_prodavati_bpla_do_ukrayini_n1565328
https://mil.in.ua/uk/news/vlada-kytayu-bere-pid-kontrol-eksport-obladnannya-dlya-droniv/
>Why does Chinese DJY company directly sell drones to Ukraine and refuse to sell its drones to puzzoids?
Source needed.
>https://zaxid.ne
>https://mil.in.ua
amazing sources keep going
Let’s be honest you’d never accept any source
I'm sorry sir, neither hindustan times nor indian express has reported on this very important topic.
False. They agreed to the sanctions but turned around and sold sanctioned products to Russia anyway. Many countries are helping Russia evade sanctions of course it’s not just China. But China has also dramatically increased their purchase of Russian energy and you simply can’t spin that. They also, crucially, gave Russia access to their financial systems allowing Russia to bypass banking restrictions designed to strangle them economically— that COMPLETELY beyond spin. There’s a weird narrative that Russia and China aren’t allies and it’s SIMPLY not true.
You're correct to some extent, you need to realize that China has no need for putin's gas or oil, because in case you haven't noticed it, the world economy is slowing down and China's economy is great depression+Japan Lost decade multiplied by 10. Besides they don't have the infrastructure nor the gas plants to suddenly buy up all the gas available (they just burn coal anyway and it's cheaper). It's just propaganda by vatmoron trolls. When it comes to the currency, Putin has abused Xinnie and got reprimanded for it, see here
When it comes to the rest of your post, yeah you're probably not wrong. It is definitely not past China to give Moscowstan ammo and other "dual use" stuff, but through third parties like north korea to hide it. People need to realize that the CCP is 100% completely facetious. They will say one thing to the world, but do the exact opposite. Even though they say they're neutral, they're actually not. Their propaganda internally says Russia is their ally and needs to win. Never trust the CCP.
Nah, ccp is currently pretending there isn't a war going on. They're in deep shit as it is with their economy crumbling.
It took me only a few minutes on Google to find a Chinese public forum with their netizens cheering Ukraine on and discussing the russian tanks losses.
They're literally calling Russians insects to be put down, due to a Chinese pun. I'm not even joking.
If CCP has made it a formal position to support rusia, they would've shut that shit down already.
They had that pro Russia peace deal that was only nominally pushed. Haven't been paying attention since then, but it seemed like they just wanted to complain about the US.
That's not my experience reading one very nationalist website. It's common for people to say that China's geopolitical position will worsen if Russia goes down. But they do shit on Russia all the time, which can be quite funny when I translate it, since there's a kind of brutal directness to it.
"Russia's border guards are very bad, they are full of holes and leak everywhere. Putin is broke and can't afford big things. After another 10 years of war, Russia will find its Su-57 is not very good, in 20 years, it will find it has no sixth-generation aircraft, no artificial intelligence weapons, and no quantum communication. Thirty years after the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Russia has nothing to show in the high-tech field, and the days to come will become more and more difficult. It has really become a large Saudi Arabia guarding its nuclear arsenal. Russia is like a mud-footed giant. Why should we save Russia? Anyway, the United States will not let it disintegrate. At most, it will strip off its underpants and let it bleed. A weak Russia is beneficial to both China and the United States, but it is currently worth more to the United States than to China."
Also animal metaphors. Something about a goose? I dunno what that's about. Also the drone war is a war of sparrows. But I'd say the idea of Russia going down being a big threat to China comes up a lot. But then someone else will say that the USSR was a threat for years but China grew stronger because of Chairman Mao's emphasis on self-reliance, standing on one's on two feet, and building the nation's courage to fight its enemies to the end:
China doesn’t need Russian energy. They’re buying it up as a mechanism for helping Russia financially. That;s why I mentioned it. And they are NOT going through intermediaries, China’s annd Russia’s own export records plainly show Chinese STATE-owned defense companies selling sanctioned stuff to Russia. Not just drone parts but hardcore tech like electronic warfare gear, fighter jet parts, navigation systems, etc. When the media approaches them for comment they just say "we follow all relevant laws and regulations, bye". China won’t go so far as to sell them full weapons systems but anything else they need China is their hookup.
AGAIN it’s not just China, there’s many countries, especially the Baltic states, who are facilitating sanction evasion. Even Turkey and Israel. But it’s simply NOT true to state China isn’t on Russia’s side.
I wouldn't be so hard to place blame on the Baltic states.. It's only natural russia would try to arrange their logistics through them, because they are located where they are
>who are facilitating sanction evasion.
lmao go fuck yourself zigger. Balts are the most pro war aid and sanctions gung ho on the former occupiers asses next to the poles. With good reason too as ziggers would straight up genocide them if they ever got their hands on them again
No doubt you will try now to gaslight with nothingburgers like the recent estonian political drama, conveniently forgetting to mention how said company under question was helping estonian citizen owned company to get out of the sinking vatnikstan. A complete nothingburger whipped up by opposition parties wanting to find a excuse to dethrone the PM for political gain
Lithuania was second only to Germany for supplying Russia with sanctioned goods in 2022.
>China isn’t on Russia’s side.
that is not what your internal propaganda machine is dictating xigger shit. I hope your next meal will be flush with gutter and spit oil
>given Russia use of their financial systems
lol no they haven't
They are. Russia heavily went into Yuan to make use Chinese banking and as protection against further sanctions. They also got access to China’s credit card system…but that got cut off a while ago because the company feared eating a sanction hammer for helping Russia. State-owned companies however don’t seem to have any problems.
>increased their purchases of Russian energy
yeah, for below market value, much help indeed. you can check it yourself if know the terminal to look at. like from 22 to 23 imports LNG increased by 50% but the customs data shows a $ value imported at 37%.
Yes, much help indeed, fool. China doesn’t need that fuel but they bought it anyway for the express purpose of helping Russia financially. Thanks to these new buys Russia has partially made up for the loss of European sales — thanks also to Saudi keeping prices high. Why are you struggling with basic concepts?
>China does not need the fuel it is buying in surplus from Russia at an immense discount
>It's just buying it out of goodwill
posted from an opium den
Are you literally 12? This shouldn’t be a challenging concept.
>ad hom
the last breath of a dying man
>implying China gives a shit about price caps
>implying they haven't been using conflict minerals from Africa in their electronics industry for decades with literally zero repercussions
The extra they're paying will be written off as belt and road funding (that just so happens to go to entities associated with Russian petrochemical companies) so that they can parade it around at the UN as a sign of their charitability and benevolence
The Middle Kingdom is ruled by smart leaders who are not drunk on ideologies that demand they be spread to every corner of the world.
Chang wants his oil, his grain, his mail-order brides, his lumber, and his raw ore. He doesn’t give a shit about helping Ivan win in Ukraine, he just wants to make sure Russia doesn’t totally collapse forcing Beijing to strike deals with 1000 statelets.
Honestly, aside from Taiwan, we have absolutely no beef with the Chinese, and I don’t even know why we’re hellbent on picking a fight over Taiwan anyways.
Both the Taiwanese and mainland Chinese agree in eventual reunification. So what are we doing pointing missiles at each other over something they agree to in the first place.
>but they’ll control the microchips..! The semi-conductors must flow!
They’re already selling that stuff to us anyways so I don’t get it.
Seriously, I’ve sat down and thought about China and I don’t understand why we’re calling them an existential threat. It’s the other way around, really. They’ve done fuck all to us, and we’re the ones who keep provoking them. We’ve already invited millions of them to live in the West, so it’s not like we can go to war with each other anyways. What’s the Canadian government going to do, lock up 3 million of its own citizens, a tenth of their total population?
Ni Hao, wumao. Eaten any tasty dogs lately? You motherless cunt.
See, this is what I mean. Explain to me why I need to be scared of China, please. They’re not even helping Russia who does tamper with our elections, destabilizes the countries bordering the West to flood us with refugees, murders our citizens, and has threatened us with nuclear annihilation (I stopped counting the number of times Medvedev has called for nuclear strikes on decision making centres).
What have the Chinese ever done to me?
Supported the Russians in doing all of those things + steal armament data from the US. Plus they eat dogs and cats.
3.63 Yuan have been deposited into your account.
remind me how this is weapons related again?
Yeah, you’re right. The whole thread has fuck all to do with weapons, and yet the jannies leave it up for discussion.
Why don’t you apply to be a janny so you can clean up the mean streets of PrepHole?
>Why don’t you apply to be a janny
there is no need to insult me, anon.
>doing it for free
>Both the Taiwanese and mainland Chinese agree in eventual reunification
taiwanese do absolutely not. You have to be insane if you think anybody wants anything to do with that insane dictatorship. North korea with more money
It used to be a popular idea, bur then they saw what happened to Hong Kong. In Taiwan today people are only increasingly emphatic about no reunion with Beijing.
>In Taiwan today people are only increasingly emphatic about no reunion with Beijing.
Literally what on earth do you possibly mean?
The Taiwanese don't want to be annexed not just for political & economic reasons, but increasingly because they see mainlanders as a different, inferior people.
Oh for some reason i thought you were disagreeing with that fairly obvious notion.
They're right, too - homo servilis =! homo sapiens.
The question we should ask is, should Homo Maoicus be considered a descendant of Homo Sovieticus or an example of convergent evolution?
Something like 50% favour status quo (Taiwan is part of China, but gets to do their own thing)
About 10-20% favour complete unification with no special status, a province like any other,
And the rest support independence.
It’s nowhere near as clear-cut, black and white as you want people to believe, and I don’t see this as something worth getting my balls blown off for anyways if the Chinese and Island Chinese just want to keep selling me cheap crap anyways no matter who wins their 100 year old slapfight.
It's amazing how creatively sterile you Chinese are. You even plagiarize your talking points. I honestly wonder if the Chinese aren't the closest thing to a philosophical zombie there is.
If by 50% you mean 80% including those who eventually want independence but not immediately ready to declare it, then yes majority favors the status quo of self-governance and democracy.
And if by status quo you mean self-governance with intentional ambiguity on being part of Mainland China or subservient to Xi, then yes the majority favors the status quo of self-governance and democracy.
And if by 10-20% favoring unification and becoming a province of Mainland China and becoming subservient to Xi, you actually meant 7%, then yes the majority favor the status quo of self-governance and democracy.
But you don't mean any of those because you're trying to argue in bad faith and use intentionally wrong numbers, whereas in reality it is very black and white as to what they want.
>It's just Danzig, bro
Possibly the worst argument you could make to win me over.
>it’s just another million dead and wounded with nothing to show for it, bro.
No thanks.
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5 years ago the average poltard was telling us we didn’t need to worry about Russia. you switching your narrative to China but using the same formula tells me we absolutely need to worry about China
>5 years ago the average poltard was telling us we didn’t need to worry about Russia.
20 HIMARS and some javelins were enough to stop the 2nd Army In the World dead in its tracks. You could argue your hated 4chantards were right.
NTA but
>You could argue your hated 4chantards were right
Just because the Russians and Chicoms are retarded doesn't mean they can't fuck up the world badly if we don't keep on them like flies on shit. Millions of people have been displaced by the speshul military operation even if it's been run by a gagglefuck of absolute windowlickers.
this. how gullible westerners are in dealing with hypocrite asiatics never stops being eye rollingly stupid. Even those who exprienced these snakes on their own skin have to fight uphill to get their experience across
>that pic
-6 Million social credit
China and Russia are both in deep shit. China wants to profit from Russian incompetence as RUSKY MIR collapses.
>The chicoms already published a map showing Russian clay as belonging to glorious China.
Sauce?
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-breaks-silence-china-map-disputed-islands-1823983
Drones, chips and... MREs? maybe?
They also help pozzya with dodging financial sanctions.
>chips
its crisps
Last year, Xi went all the way to Moscow to ask Russia to chill out with the nukes. Putin shook his hand and they made a joint statement saying nukes are bad, let's not do nukes.
One week later Putin announces he's moving nukes into Belarus and starts the nuke threats again.
It was a very public slap in the face to Xi, Putin basically saying you're not top dog yet, I'll do whatever the fuck I want.
Pooh has basically ignored the whole Ukraine russia thing ever since.
Xi's not gonna go after his private sector for selling washing machine chips, but I doubt he's gonna lift a finger to help Putin either.
>Imagine the chinkoid pinkies who sees their emperor humiliated and still shill for Russkiy Mir. I think they'll be missing kidneys soon.
This is a factor too, Putin has personally slighted Xi. Xi is a man who has demonstrated a willingness to inflict national consequences for slights on his own self.
>Xi is a man who has demonstrated a willingness to inflict national consequences for slights on his own self.
to be fair, that's probably the only kind of man capable of rising to the tippy top in the CCP
China is not going to ruin their economic relations with the USA, UK, Japan, South Korea, and many more by providing materiel support to Russia. They're in a tenuous enough position. A serious attempt at divestment from China would be the nail in the coffin.
A serious divestment from China is already underway. Almost all exports are collapsing. Their steel industry is in big trouble. A lot of foreign companies have had enough of the CCP rules and are moving their factories to Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia and India. Xi is going to be known as the guy who fucked up Chinas economic growth and sent it back to Mao tier poverty.
Oh I know, but we could divest so, so much harder. It would complicate things and it would be extremely painful (for them)
>Xi is going to be known as the guy who fucked up Chinas economic growth and sent it back to Mao tier poverty.
the wolf warrior shit isn't paying off after all
Watching them fuck up relations with the Philippines even when Duterte was practically licking Xi's balls is pretty indicative that they have no idea how to do foreign policy. China is hilarious to watch tbh. Like Russia they can't into strategic partnerships and everything is a master slave dynamic
Ever since Zhou Enlai died, the Chinese had no fucking clue how to court and present itself as leader of the "Third World". That's what happens when you design your entire educational system around cheating and copying. They probably looked at the 00's US under GW and the War on Terror with his strong man, aggressive foreign policy and thought "hey, let's just copy that" while ignoring the historical context and foundational cultural aspects that makes it work. Even the nascent US had Teddy with 'speak softly and carry a big stick'. The Chinese just speaks loudly, pisses off all its neighbors with its territorial claims and 9-dash lines, and threatens so many ultimatums it gets it own wikipedia page (China's final warning).
China has no values. Who the fuck in the world is scrambling to follow "Socialism with Chinese characteristics"? What does it even mean? America, despite its internal problems and hypocrisy, is still undisputed king of idealized national values: freedom, democracy, the American Dream. The Chinese Dream is collapsing like their property values. They have no allies come a Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis, except a defanged Russia and a smattering of tin pot dictatorships with no force projection.
I thought it was incredibly telling that Kim Jong Un outright told a US sec of state that he prefers the US in SK than not
>Former US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo wrote in his new memoir that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un told him in 2018 that he needed US forces in South Korea to protect himself from China.
>Kim "said that he needed the Americans in South Korea to protect him from the CCP, and that the CCP needs the Americans out so they can treat the peninsula like Tibet and Xinjiang," Pompeo wrote
>China has no values. Who the fuck in the world is scrambling to follow "Socialism with Chinese characteristics"?
practically all western ruling classes when they realized authoritarianism can work and they'd be the gilded rulers forever
Amazingly they keep doing it. That spineless gay Macron goes and licks Xi's feet and throws aspersions on the country that is literally one of only 3 reasons his even exists, and how does Xi repay him? By less than a week later instructing his Paris-posted top diplomat to publicly disavow the political legitimacy of a bunch of former Soviet colonies, some of them EU members. I'm honestly beginning to wonder if this isn't a 'wag the dog' situation.
Good. Total instect death.
Two more weeks to flatten the Han.
This, basically his legacy is going to be the guy who fucked up Deng Xiaopings legacy
supporting Russia is international suicide. Even on this reddit moron board you cant say anything pro Russia
>make it very clear that you're a threat to everyone around you
they have only themselves to blame
Through out China's long history, the biggest threat has always came from the northern border.
China's biggest threat throughout history has been itself retard.
>China's biggest threat throughout history has been itself retard
literally what pro snowgeria is there to say? Its a poor, insanely corrupt, diseased and violent kleptocracy. You are indian as fuck if you think there is anything of value there snowmoron
I like the vast forests and the untouched wilderness, the pre revolutionary history, culture and folklore, the food, the clothing. Also russian women are objectively the most beautiful in the world
You should go live there. Russia accepts subverted deplorables from all over the world.
I'm not deplorable, fuck you you jingoistic piece of shit
>you jingoistic piece of shit
There's a homeless Russian chud (not even joking) I convinced the shelter to refuse because I lied and said she was selling their kitchen ware on the street. I hope she fucking freezes to death and the parents that kicked her out trip over her frozen body.
>chud
>she
Ftm retard
>calling trannies "she" or "he" instead of "gay"
Worse, i refer to her as Russian
He must have been mad and depraved but so are you for denying a human being the most basic help through lies when he is in the ground, that's exactly one of the reasons why people hate guys like Putin, he lies to destroy those he doesn't like, you didn't even bother to convince him to change his ways, I hope you rethink what you are doing with your life anon.
>the vast forests and the untouched wilderness
it's just swampland and mosquitoes for thousands of miles anon
and the central asian steppe, of course, which is nice if you like _nothing_ and a whole lof of it.
Russian women are pimped out by their mothers from the moment they can wall
Early bird gets the worm
China wants Eurasia to be connected and integrated because it stands to benefit the most economically. Alliances and bloc structures will only mess that up. So China, as a rule, doesn't make alliances. They tend to view the whole concept as a Western concept.
It's all about degrees and frequency, so China remains formally neutral in the war, but it doesn't want a collapsed or internally warring Russia either. Russia's political system and method of governance is also quite problematic, and they are playing this game too by bolstering ties with India.
>They tend to view the whole concept as a Western concept.
it more or less is
in chinese way of thinking, there are only hierarchical relationships between nations
client - master
there can be no master without a client and no client without a master
relations between countries in their mind are vertical, not horizontal
they likely view the EU as german dominion over client states in europe (it sort of is, btw)
China tries to impress others by their performance or example. "Learn from the master" stuff. They seek emulators who will eventually come to China to learn and be impressed by them.
It's interesting how they do it. Patrice Talon, the president of Benin (meme country) is in China rn and this is a top news story in the (state-owned) news. I'll see commenters talking about diplomatic protocol, the paintings on the wall, there's a whole aesthetic fascination with diplomacy. But if you were the president of Benin, that would probably feel pretty good. It probably comes from ancient traditions of being in an environment with many feuding kingdoms.
>it sort of is
Maybe when it was founded, now Germany keeps floundering their political control due to their own autism and Italy of all fucking places is stepping up to challenge their importance. France is also a constant nag for the Germans.
He's smart enough not to bet on a lame horse
Because look at how we treat the nations that do support Russia. Also think of it like this, if they send weapons they're gonna be crewed by russians which means they'll be lost (probably in some incredibly retarded way) and/or orkified. Now why would China, a nation very intent on keeping its international image of strength as pristine as possible, want their weapons to be handled by retards and made to look like shit (which they probably are but giving them the benefit of the doubt, Russians could have Abrams and still find a way to fuck up)? Plus they're getting their pound of flesh out of Russia already, sending materiel wouldn't be a worthwhile investment since we all know Russia, even if by an act of god wins this war, would never be able to repay the cost, at least not with anything valuable
the weird thing is that russians got some running models of western tanks and ifvs and didn't use them at all.
Because they likey don't have the ammo or spare parts to field them. If they're sent out it's gonna be a suicide run
they sold them some shells and microprocessors
It's a careful balancing act.
China wants to prolong the conflict and weaken both sides.
Russia will become their vassal, but they don't want the west to win without heavy cost.
Chinese leadership probably wrote off the war as a lost cause in April, 2022
China quickly realized Russia bit off way more than it can chew and doesn't want to get itself directly involved in a conflict with the West just yet.
It's also highly enjoying its considerably strengthened bargaining position with Russia. This also applies to India.
Doesnt matter, its bullying towards south eastern nations and saber rattling towards the west means the USA will buy their cheap goods, but will also permanently station a carrier battlegroup off the chinese coast. If they think they can come back in our good graces they're sorely mistaken
Don't forget the latest China map claiming part of Russian territory ad their own, to which the Russian government is saying nothing.
China hasn't sent lethal aid to Russia because they are worried about alienating Europe.
China wants to maintain unfettered access to European high tech manufacturing and they want to maintain European markets as a destination for their own exports.
Outside of Europe and the US there simply isn't enough of a market for high value add Chinese manufacturing, much of the rest of the world is simply too poor to absorb it.
Keeping access to Europe is basically central for China to have a hope of properly ascending to developed nation status whilst the US is antagonistic.
Chinese lethal aid in artillery ammunition, PGMs strike weapons ect would be disastrous for Ukraine, but it could potentially spiral into a WW3 that China has a low chance of winning.
The US would be able to drastically tighten sanctions with European support and China would be stuck in the 1930s Japan situation of either gambling on a risky war or having regime collapse.
State-owned defense companies happily selling Russia sanctioned products right now. Not full weapon systems obviously but lots of key tech and parts.
May I see them?
https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/odni_report_on_chinese_support_to_russia.pdf
It’s all over the news too.
>msm
Lmao. Which is why Russia can build one cruise missile a month and is wheeling out t55s
>Outside of Europe and the US there simply isn't enough of a market for high value add Chinese manufacturing
And there isn’t even a market for these things in Europe and the US. Nobody wants to work with the Chinese on manufacturing anything of importance. They will abscond with your IP and you’ll be told to go fuck yourself.
China said they would support Russia but waited a couple of months because they are risk adverse and tend to play it safe. By that time the amount of sanctions on Russia made it clear if they actually helped Russia they risked their economy being killed.
Honestly Putins spergout has made China think again about invading anyone and they will likely just keep buying other countries until neoliberal greed kills the west in the long term.
it's a sensitive issue who china, who also deals with what it claims as "separatist regions" and cannot take a pro-russian stance without compromising its stance on taiwan. you're kicking the gong if you don't think china is making the same big bux off ukraine
Because Winnie Pooh is a huge vagina that fears US sanctions more than he fears their "eternal friend" to lose the war.
why wouldn't they fear US sanctions, after all? the west is who feeds them the gruel with which they shit out products for both their own domestic consumption and those abroad. they will not bite that hand moreso turn up their nose like a stubborn child at mealtime.
>Because Winnie Pooh is a huge vagina that fears US sanctions more than he fears their "eternal friend" to lose the war.
He's actual right and showing he has some brain and not just a nut like putin
>He's actual right and showing he has some brain and not just a nut like putin
Even a bear of very little brain has more brain than the Russian Bear? Oh bother.
>Even a bear of very little brain has more brain than the Russian Bear? Oh bother.
How about some hunney humm? Just a taste
The actual explanation is that Xi doesn't trust Putin's judgment at all anymore. Think about it: we know that Putin told Xi what he was planning a few weeks before he actually invaded, and he would have told him that it was going to be an utter cakewalk for the Russian military and that there was nothing to worry about, because Putin himself sincerely believed that. Then it all blew up in his face. The Russians started out with far more money, more resources, and more weapons (on paper) than the Ukrainians, and still got chewed up and failed to accomplish their objectives. How can Xi have any confidence that giving the Russians a few hundred tanks would change anything? Not only would it mean the PRC is expending resources and possibly incurring sanctions onto themselves from the West, but if Chinese armor and weapons were given to Russia and failed to help them, China's own military prestige would come into question. The CCP isn't going to want videos of a Type 99 being stolen by Ukrainian farmers or getting knocked out by a T-64 with Marichka's pregnant belly painted on it to be circulating on the Internet.
With all of that said, they're still helping Russia through energy purchases and trade, but they're only doing what's directly profitable to them, regardless of what it means for Russian success in Ukraine. Putin isn't getting a Chink Lend-Lease.
The secret the kremlin fears the world knowing most of all is that the sanctions are actually working extremely well. Xi is right to stay out of this, Putin and co are demonstrably tarded, just the wagner sledgehammer bullshit would be enough for anyone on top of loosing 30,000 military vehicles and artillery pieces and 263000 dead. Where Xi actually showed quite a bit of brain is staying out at the start when the scale of Russias military disaster was not yet evident and Russia was just preparing to invade. Xi may be good at doing nothing but in this case nothing was the right call.
To understand just how bad Russias disaster is through Chinese optics, in the years of human wave tactics in the Korean war, China lost 180000 dead. In 18 months in Ukraine Russia has lost 263000 dead. When Xi see's his mobile ring and Putins name come up he auto responds with 'So Sorry on TikTok" and never calls back
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I really hate to be one of those chicken morons but proofs for a quarter million dead? I thought we were in the realm of 60k for Russia.
thats the claim that ukraine is making, which is certain to be false
its likely in the realm of 50-100k
thing is, the 'wounded' guys are mostly cripples or at least severely handicapped
they aren't going to contribute to the economy, rather its the other way around
putin probably prefers his mobiks dead rather than WIA
and, as we have seen many examples of, so do the mobiks themselves
>thats the claim that ukraine is making, which is certain to be false
What absolute shit. I suppose you think Putin only had one tank in his parade because there were too many to fit on the street as well. Ukraine's figures have proved to be very dependable, as usual dishonest Russian liars are trying to dishonour their own Russian dead by denying their existence. Putins spammers really as disgusting. The dead for Russia corresponds with the APC and MBT and artillery losses and those are supported by the arrival of obsolete T62s and T54s, no modern armour in the victory day parade, the apparent substitution of infective lancet drones for artillery by Russia (as well as vents from Russian commanders about artillery being destroyed wholesale by Ukraine). Nothing disgusts me more than Russian and 4chanleftypol/ Russian co-opted liars denying that these Russians who died for Putin even existed. Why do you think the mobilisations happened? Stop lying and go and rethink you lives, yes Russia has 263000 dead, its a human catastrophe, (you) are just a social and political one. It seems as if all Russia can do when faced with reality is lie to its own population and the world.
Well, if you cut it that way is quite sad, when the people who sent you to fight cant even recognize your sacrifice, I think even here I have seen more pity from some posters who commented on how ugly drone drops could get despite wanting the ukies to die. It's the same with Korea and 'Nam, a great deal of the horror comes not from intellectually knowing but witnessing first hand how a regime could treat their own as cannon fodder and how the enemy soldier actually find this the right thing to do, to brag about how expendable they are, never seeing the qhole thing was just a human made catastrophe
The sanctions are doing very little to harm Russia’s war production. That story is all over the news after a U.S. House intelligence report came out explaining that Russia has massively evaded sanctions. The US government is a Russian lie-dispenser?
The worst cuck is a Chinese man
1. No freedom to criticize any politician or instakill, he is a serf. All channels are controlled and whitewashed. He basically has no rights.
2. No right to protest or demand for fairer treatment or even to claim owed wages or instakill
3. Subject to propaganda and brainwashing all his life to hate other countries and told to believe that other countries hate him first
4. Lowest salary in Asia, highest debt %, highest home cost to salaries, brutal employers
5. Now with economic meltdown, don't even have good opportunities in China and it is difficult to work overseas
6. Will be used as cannon fodder in the case of any cross strait conflict
He literally lives in hell esp when things go sideways in Asia. No wonder all the rich and capable are running like Temple Run out. Only shills here run their mouth because they aren't good enough to get out.
Don’t forget the chinese killed off all their female babies during one child, so theres something like 20 million excess men who will never, ever get laid let alone married
>4. Lowest salary in Asia
somehow i doubt that, seeing as how fucking Bangladesh exists
I assume they are selling some microchips and other supplies that they get away with. They're sure as fuck aren't going to give anything away, what would be the point? Russia is fucked and they would have to send USA-level amounts to make a difference.
I assume that the post-covid world isn't to happy about relying on China so why rock the boat even more?
>I assume they are selling some microchips and other supplies that they get away with.
If Chinese companies are doing business wit will be carefully and without the state being explicitly aware and you can bet they will be price gouging and scamming and unloading every bit of defective and damaged stock they have. Chinas microchip production is decades behind the west in technology especially in areas like graphics processing and AI.
It’s explicitly STATE-OWNED defense companies responsible for the big-item exports. Jet parts, navigation tech, electronic warfare systems and a few other things iirc. When the media approaches Chinese trade authorities over this they just say "we follow all laws and regulations, bye". PrepHole has this utterly wrong idea that China isn’t helping Russia in MAJOR ways, that China is through with the partnership and are virtually enemies now etc. In fact they’ve helped Russia the MOST out of any single country.
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did you get banned, anon?
Why arm your enemy?
They are conserving resources because as everyone knows after Trump is elected in 2024 and we revoke Ukraine's blank check Taiwan is next. Makes all the sense in the world.
Goddamn it, can the Uyghurs get their shit together already and pull a 9/11 on the Three Gorges Dam? Muslims are meant to be good at this stuff, and they're already being genocided, so might as well.
unfortunately, this is specifically bugmen muslims we are talking about, so they are worse than useless, they are directly counterproductive to their own interests both in the short and long term
>muh semi conductors
Why cant we help Taiwan just for freedoms sake?
>semi conductors
>freedom
Same thing really
Because Taiwan was only ruled by a military dictatorship, then by a literal cult.
That's South Korea.
china is now the kmart of the world. it sells cheap shit no one needs, but wants.
China and Russia are more business partners than loyal allies. Plus China doesn't want to get involved in a war that screws with its European investments.
China relies on trade with Europe and the US, as well as needing stable relations with major Asian neighbors like Korea and Japan. China is these days a net food exporter, but these are cash crops. They are tremendously dependent on foreign countries - including Ukraine - for staple foods and for fertilizer.
China will not risk its economy or an outright food/fuel/fertilizer embargo to prop up a junior partner who has, at this point, lost this war. The smart move is to try and make it so their geopolitical rivals get a less advantageous victory while risking nothing of theirs.
Ukraine in particular has already signaled willingness to target China with a food embargo. When Russia blew up a bunch of grain recently, Ukraine noted this was grain China had purchased.
They provide them weapons, and then what? They get exposed as a paper tiger because their shit is so comically badly, the same way Russia has been the last 18 months.
China would dishonor their ancestors if they gave military aid to these muppets at this point.
russia needs chinese chips and shit, not weapons. They have a weapons industry, just no supply chain or normal import opportunities
He's terrified of more sanctions and probably planning on backstabbing Putin. He wants Russia to be depleted of weapons so invading is easier. Also he needs to keep America at bay while invading Russia and to do that he needs to leave a large reserve dedicated to defense.
Ukraine has been buying Chinese drone parts since Day 1.
Through both Western financial assistance and donations, they were able to corner the market and buy mass amounts of blade, motors, and other optics for cheap. People in the drone community complain that certain drone parts are harder to find since the war began. The Beaver drones and other programs are the result of 1.5 years of R&D and production to make.
Murz was writing about this before, and how the Russian MoD is too slow to realize the realities of drone tech. The oldguard generals still want theater drones like Orlan or Orion instead, which are fodder for MANPADS and other AD. They have begun production of kamikaze drones, but can’t produce fast enough.
They've been funnelling artillery, missiles and more through the RoK to Russia since early last year. What little they can get away with without being called out, but still.
They just annexed parts of Russia, why the fuck would they arm them?
In reality they just recently settled a border dispute diplomatically with one another, high-level China official states a boundless friendship with Russia while China is, far and away, Russia’s greatest single helper in gaining financing, acquiring critical parts and general sanction evasion. PrepHole enjoys a pretend reality where Russia is NK but in reality they have a huge network of investors and suppliers in other countries working together to evade sanctions. The EU sanction body said earlier this year they don’t have the staff to go after the sheer amount of evasion going on for Russia. The US sanction body tries to put a positive face on the situation but House intelligence reports a few months back have exposed some of the reality of how much Russia has evaded sanctions. They’re FAR from isolated; it turns out, SHOCKER, that super-rich oil prince oligarchs don’t lack for friends, lawyers and "helpers" all over the world to run massive evasion ops.
Cause the truth is that China is mostly just a diplomatic and economic ally of Russia and has consistently shown that they don't want to get involved in Russia's conflicts with its neighbors.
They never recognized Transnistria. They never recognized South Ossetia and Abkhazia. They didn't even recognize the annexation of Crimea. And they haven't recognized Russia's recent annexation of Ukrainian territory either. And they didn't veto any of the UN resolutions that condemned Russia' invasion of Ukraine.
A lot of anons said that China is worried about economic sanctions from the West for supporting Russia. And that's definitely a huge part of it. But there's also ideological reasons for it. In their eyes, Russia's actions could set a precedent where the US could "separate" Taiwan from China by force and justify it by pointing it to how Russia pushed bullshit independence "referendums." The fact that Taiwan is now starting to take their defense seriously and the US is increasing arms sales to Taiwan is probably a confirmation of their fears.
There's also the fact that China has been trying to increase their economic influence in Eastern Europe for years. Now all of that effort could be undone in an instant if China is seen by Eastern Europe as supporting Russia too much.
Because China signed a nuclear umbrella treaty with Ukraine.
Because China and Ukraine had mostly good relations prior to the war. Don't forget how China bought the Liaoning from Ukraine. There's been a worsening public opinion of China in Ukraine and vice versa since the war began, but the Ukranian government hasn't signaled they're gonna cut off relations with China and recognize Taiwan. Zelensky has consistently said that he "appreciates" China's stance on Russia, and Ukrainian officials have mostly refrained from fiercely condemning China. The Chinese are probably reciprocating this by mostly blaming NATO for the war rather than criticizing Ukraine.
if you think about it from the chinese perspective why would the russians need help against the ukraine
Chinese economy is cratering right now and the covid lockdowns pissed off a lot of people so the last thing he wants to do is risk sanctions from the west.
Don't worry, the chinese tanks will arrive in russia.