Seems like drones have become the ultimate weapon on the battlefield. Take for example this recent Russian attack on Ukrainian positions in the Bakhmut area. They had zero element of surprise from the get-go and were basically sitting ducks with their every move watched.
https://files.catbox.moe/1ajiqp.MP4
I am of demoralize.
t. Crikey Bruce from Tasmania oblast
>https://files.catbox.moe/1ajiqp.MP4
after watching this mp4 file i have ordered the pentagon to scrap the f-35 and decommission every armored fighting vehicle we have and order 200000 aliexpress drones instead.
t. joe biden
>drones have become the ultimate weapon on the battlefield
This shit is not anything new, though. America literally did this 30 years ago, why act like drones is a israelite thing?
10 years ago drones were treated like jets and they were big and expensive. Today they are small, cheap and they can be used anywhere at anytime.
No, they weren't lmao. 10 years ago had ISIS mass utilizing commercial drones.
Again, its not anything new and the U.S. been having mass battlefield surveillance since the 80s.
Yeah, the major difference between plane style drones flown by the air force and small quad copter drones is that the information the soldiers receive is much more immediate and self controlled. They aren't reliant on calling up another branch to provide any support, and they can launch at any time and support their immediate squad.
They both have their own uses (long loiter and long distance for the larger drones, and quick launch and low cost to replace for the small drones, which feeds into things like suicide drones or grenade drops).
I don't get why Ukraine has impunity with regard to drone operation to begin with.
Why aren't the Russians running any ECM or EW to defeat cheap drones? Aren't they at least trying to triangulate drone operator positions?
They absolutely don't. They go through ~10k drones in a month.
That includes suicide drones anon.
they do all these things, dont believe the bullshit you read online
also russia has superiority in many areas still, the more expensive, long range surveillance drones like geran are very difficult for ukraine to find and take down and they have only very limited numbers of comparable systems from western countries (mostly because these things are either too new or too powerful)
>long range surveillance drone
>geran
>geran
shitskin spotted
Ukrops fly copters over russian trenches.
Russians fly Zala drones over Ukrop airfields.
Russian EW has been having a huge impact on UAF operations. The UA drone operators themselves that the average lifespan of their equipment has been getting lower as the war has progressed.
>Seems like drones have become the ultimate weapon on the battlefield.
No. You just get to see the results because drones film it, so you're entirely biased.
They're just another part in the puzzle that is combined arms operations, absolutely nothing new.
>ljut brigade
>russian
/k/ really is the easiest board to bait
What?
>Russian attack on Ukrainian
OP literally said russian tried to attack and acked.
well yes, information is absolutely crucial in any war or combat situation
if you can see it, you can usually kill it nowadays
but dont forget that you have confirmation bias here you can see online and documented only those cases were drones were useful
however drones cannot cover every square meter of the front and for each attack that gets discovered and destroyed like this there might be 2 or 3 others that are either not found at all, too late or where drones are taken down in time
>scroll back 15 years
>ISIS is spamming drones against America in Mosul on day 1. Burgerbots seek hard cover and fiddle with backpack jammer guns.
>day 2: burgers update the vehicle jammers. Drones fall from the sky in dozens. Burgerbots collect some and read the software for flight paths. Hours later, JDAMs fall from the sky on ISIS forward HQs.
Drones are wunderwaffen.
source: i just made this up
Source: the Battle of Mosul, nagger. Oh, you weren't there? Too bad. Go read some official histories if your dad is busy.
Are there books and reports on that matter? Open source of course.
>source: i just made this up
>"I am a retard that knows nothing about warfare beyond some stupid shit I'm seeing in the here and now, and I only base my understanding of war off of things that happen in the past year. I do not know how and cannot be bothered to do research, that's for evil Western whites."
>And didn't Amerfats lose that war?
Why do thirdies think Iraq is in Afghanistan? Is it unironic cope?
Just don't program the drones to log their flight path. Problem solved. And didn't Amerfats lose that war? So the drones must have had some efficacy.
is that what brown people pretend to be logic?
>browns thinking how they lost last time not realizing that was the first time for americans and now the americans will have fresh copes to beat them in a new way again
Glad I'm not a thirdie.
America lost neither of them. Permanent annexation is not America's MO.
>amerifats lost in Iraq to ISIS
We need to take away the third worlds internet
>Amerifats
Fuck you
>lem solved. And didn't Amerfats lose that war?
I dunno anon, does ISIS still control Mosul?
what people are really not understanding is that IVAS + drones will allow soldiers to get real time views and literal wall hacks
imagine popping out of your trench and already pre aiming at some vatnik
I keep thinking about that, the gap between a networked force and a conventional one will be insane, like cannons against arrows.
let alone a force that doesn't even have encrypted comms in the first place.
>engaging the enemy with a resting heart rate
just HATO things
>100BPM
>resting
I fucking hope not
OP is clearly a grifter who just spammed because of Russia's was embarrassment. They can't even hold onto the Bakhmut and are very, very humiliated at Ukrainian making easy advances there.
What advances? Russia took more land in avdivka than Ukraine did in 4 months of the offensive.
How many casualties, anon?
I’m very much pro Ukraine and it is true that they lost a shit ton of men but Russia has worthless cannon fodder and rust bucket tanks up the ass. Ukraine lost dozens of Bradleys and leopards and barely made an inch.
Anon, casualties are still casualties. This type of mindset is exactly how you lose a war. And those Bradleys and leopards have been mission killed, but still been brought back and repaired. You're acting as if those vehicles are not doing their job, which is to provide support for the troops and also guarente survival for the crew. Stop treating russia like its the soviet union. Its not the soviet union and they don't exactly have that many manpower to realistically contribute that much.
they have more than ukraine tho.
Only if they start tapping into Moscow and St. Petersburg which they've already shown is very likely to cause a revolt after the last mass exodus. As it is they're already culling the prison population and outlying areas of recruits extensively to avoid touching those people, and not everyone is going to voluntarily go to war. They can only do so much before the actual rich people start revolting.
10 leopards and 29 bradleys are visually confirmed losses. Its nowhere near as bad Russian losses. Of course you knew that when you made your vatnik post.
10 leopards and 29 bradleys is far more impactful for them since they don’t have many to begin with.
GOOD MORNING SIRS
IFVs:
30/190 = 15% of Bradleys
1024/4080 = 25% of BMPs
Tanks:
10/71 = 14% of Leopard 2's lost
2437/3727 = 65% of T-series tanks lost
By your own logic, 1,000 BMPs and 2,400 tanks is far more impactful for them even if they had many to begin with.
Shall we factor the other IFVs and MBTs Ukraine has received in? Or their T-series stocks?
4 dead, 2 wounded
>Russia took more land in avdivka than Ukraine did in 4 months of the offensive.
This is false, and you are embarrassing yourself. Russia can't do shits.
Da piodr, 2 days to kiev nazipigs xaxaxa ! Am demoralize
webm'd
Oh, and I just realized that I named the file avdiivka_drone.webm without thinking because I have tons of videos of Russians dying in Avdiivka recently, for some reason.
Let's go with what OP says and assume it's in Bakhmut. TZD is fine anywhere.
Surely,Russia is now totally screwed?
Just waiting to be exterminated from this Planet?
Utterly moronic tactics and SOP’s.
>https://files.catbox.moe/1ajiqp.MP4
name of song?
дикe пoлe
>https://files.catbox.moe/1ajiqp.MP4
WEBM.
>Seems like drones have become the ultimate weapon on the battlefield
at the same time in the German NATO training camp for Ukrainians: "we do not have permission to use drones here"
I am demoralized, now all Americanskis must call on Tsar Trump to realign the US of A to support mighty Russian bear in 615 day long special needs operation against tiny neighbor with 1/5 the population and no nukes or navy
t. John Smith of
>Das ist mein Kringe Face
Leo 2 failed.
Wunderwaffe cancelled.
Can't they just jam them?