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What are some secret weapons concepts that we can realistically assume military powers have or are in advanced development?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dugway Zapper and Planet Dirt.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dirt
      This meme is really fricking old. Like "Marylin Manson cut out his ribs to suck his dick" old.
      Never figured out where it came from, but it is a glorious shitpost from start to finish.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it goes back to the 70s. those missing people go somewhere

        Project MARAUDER is the most credible and has terrifying implications.
        >Why yes, us definitely civilian scientists hypothesized that creating a plasma toroid would allow you send extremely high amounts of focused energy at targets through a variety of mediums.
        >Wowee Zowee our initial tests for the DoD were EXTREMELY successful and demonstrated that this future plasma donut launcher absolutely annihilates shit we aim it at.
        >Okay now we're shelving the project buh bye ;^)
        And that was in the fricking 90's...

        in 1972 boeing, the air force, 3m had a working railgun, that was bigger than a naval cannon and used a dryice sabot around a tungsten beryllium alloy projectile. they popped the top of a mountain in Nevada miles away with that.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Mfw Petty Officer 2nd Class Billy gets turned into high energy gamma burst in a helicopter training accident

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          How the frick did they use a non conductive material for sabot in a railgun anon?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Planet Dirt
      What's that?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Allegedly some sort of off-world Naval garrison, possibly on Proxima B.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I need to know more, but nothing comes up in the web search

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Do you really think some sort of off planet weapon armed force *wouldn't* be classified to such a severe degree that you could just google it? Hell, that even trying hard to find it, if it does exist, wouldn't just get you vanned in the hour?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I just want the original copypasta/article whatever the frick brought it into this thread. Any other conspiracy theory is just out there.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              well if that's the case wy do you know about it?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Signal to noise ratio anon, some people just can't help themselves. Also, the posts get away with it due to the fact that he doesn't mention any of the insystem stuff that would get him v& immediately

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Why would they do that? It's way easier to ignore random schizos who may or may not have knowledge of such a thing, lest you lend them credibility by sending them a C&D or vanning them or whatever. Catching someone with proof, leaked info, credentials from the project, malicious intent, etc is a different matter, but random people sharing rumors are generally harmless and might even help your case if their rumor-mongering makes enemy nations pause for a sec and go "wait what if they really...?"

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The only thing you will find on the internet besides a couple mentions here
            https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1059820/pg6
            https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1133859/pg5
            https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread728051/pg3
            https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1117013/pg1

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              To add, there was a few anons in these sort of threads in the past that mentioned hearing or weird interview only Navy TDYs with odd requirements like "must be a member of an Abrahamic religion". There is also an old story of a civilian journalist onboard a submarine...
              >Be civvie inna sub
              >Supposed to write about life on muh sub
              >There are weird crew members that are specifically segregated from the rest of the crew
              >Ask the commander what's up with these guys
              >Told to not talk to them
              >Sub in middle of the ocean
              >One day these guys are just gone
              >Ask what happened to them
              >Promptly transferred to Naval Station for the rest of his time with the Navy
              I know if I were going to keep crew exchanges secret, I wouldn't do it an an AFB or Naval Air Station...I would do it in the middle of the ocean.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I'd bet real money that there are a whole bunch of secret undersea bases scattered around the world. Naval submarine secrets are the absolute hardest to crack that there are as far as I know. Makes me wonder about the old
                >there are more airplanes in the ocean than submarines in the sky
                bit. I'm sure it's true, but I'm also sure there are a non-zero number of submarines in the sky.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >submarines in the sky
                Wut. Please teach me the ancient lore.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                When you give a sub a nuclear power plant, it can power basically anything it wants to. I don't think anyone's posted the fark links yet, but the guy talks about nuclear powered mass reducers and other esoteric tech. It would be bonehead obvious to install stuff like that on subs in order to get them to the deepest depths of the ocean, and make them into spaceships at the same time.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't think anyone's posted the fark links yet, but the guy talks about nuclear powered mass reducers and other esoteric tech.

                Are you gonna post the links? I wanna know more of the deep lore.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                https://m.fark.com/comments/4371964/50903132/Scientists-think-warp-driven-starships-may-be-possible-one-day-at-least-until-some-acting-ensign-pulls-o#c50903132
                https://m.fark.com/comments/1386759/11882728#c11882728
                Here's the ones I have saved. They'll get you started, it's enough to get you looking in the right directions and asking the right questions. Once you digest them, you'll start thinking things like, "If all that's true, how long have we had these capabilities?" Or "Wait a minute, doesn't that imply a METRIC FRICKLOAD of hidden insystem infrastructure, including multiple bases on or over every planet and most moons in the Sol system?"
                It's pretty funny how many pieces fit together once you have this little bit of background info. The first time I read them it was like a light bulb going off in my head.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              i really dont want to sift through the couple hundred posts you just linked to get to the vague information you're alluding to, dude. at least type out an interesting larp post instead of just regurtitating someone else's unfiltered shit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        offworld colony

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Gay Bomb.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that you aren't even joking is ridiculous in itself.

      >The "gay bomb" (informally known) refers to a non-lethal psychochemical weapon concept that was speculated upon by a research laboratory within the United States Air Force. This unconventional idea involved the dispersion of sex pheromones over enemy forces, with the intent of generating mutual sexual attraction among them causing mass confusion and panic within their platoons.
      >Dating back to 1994, the Wright Laboratory in Ohio, a precursor to the modern United States Air Force Research Laboratory, drafted a three-page proposal detailing several potential nonlethal chemical weapons. This document, eventually acquired by the Sunshine Project via a Freedom of Information Act request, explores the notion of the "gay bomb" among other concepts.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its not an actual thing though, it was just an experiment.
        Governments have experimented with all sorts of potential concepts that in the end didn't pan out, some amusing while others being less so.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >The gay bomb
        Russians literally rape their own soldiers as a punishment and literally every other reason. The gay bomb has either already been used, or is now ineffective.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it is called internet

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >free acces to information prevents people from being brainwashed by traditionalism propaganda
        Makes sense

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Orbital dropped asteroids.
    Considering how easy it is to send something in space nowadays, I'm willing to bet at least a couple of artificial satellites orbiting around Earth have protocolos to become guided impactors at the push of a button

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (me)
      Also, true AI (for enemy modeling and battlefield coordination assistance), experimental drugs that turn your average soldier into a Spartan, invasive military cybernetics implants and starfighters to contest Earth orbit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >experimental drugs that turn your average soldier into a Spartan

        PrepHole has already tried a few that aren't totally shit-tier in the GHSR agonist and SARM classes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ive heard butcher's nails do a better job, at least for awhile.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >experimental drugs that turn your average soldier into a Spartan
        The gay bomb is already discussed anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Considering how easy it is to send something in space nowadays
      It's really not and you likely failed to understand just how difficult it is even with any nuclear propulsion and an asteroid conveniently waiting for you at a Lagrage point.

      To put this another way: if you had the means to redirect an asteroid, without even caring when and where it have to hit, you would have the technology to do far better than asteroids.
      Yes better. Because even if you were to somehow use the material of the asteroid to propel it, the mass of your equipment, spread as many "Rod from god" would already be equivalent to having a constellation of nukes with much better guidance and far less predictable.

      (me)
      Also, true AI (for enemy modeling and battlefield coordination assistance), experimental drugs that turn your average soldier into a Spartan, invasive military cybernetics implants and starfighters to contest Earth orbit.

      >starfighters to contest Earth orbit.
      The same science that tell you dropping asteroids is wasteful tell you that you do not need "manned single-crew combat spaceship" to forbid orbits to your enemy.
      A mere laser would cripple/destroy anything you send (that cannot afford armor).

      Given that a Kessler effect would already ruin your infrastructure for decades/century, you can contest Earth's orbit simply by threatening to blow up anything. (which is why attack on GPS satellites is considered as equivalent to dropping nukes)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think anon was talking about man-made satellites already being used for something else that may also be strategically dropped from space onto a rival country. Whoever has it won’t out and out call it a weapon, but if it “accidentally” falls out of orbit and “accidentally” hits something important it could be devastating.
        Sort of like how North Korea has a “telecommunications” satellite that is also capable of producing a grid-killing EMP and they happen to keep it in orbit above the US.

        https://i.imgur.com/wKL7Lw5.jpeg

        What are some secret weapons concepts that we can realistically assume military powers have or are in advanced development?

        Antigravity stealth fighters that may be mistaken for UFOs until WWIII starts and suddenly they are bombing Ziggers/bugmen

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Antigravity stealth fighters that may be mistaken for UFOs until WWIII starts and suddenly they are bombing Ziggers/bugmen
          homie are you high

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Antigravity stealth fighters
          G-craft don’t look anything like a fighter jet, or any conventional aircraft for that matter.
          They’re also far, far too expensive (and the knowledge to build them is even more valuable) to be used in a war as anything more than a recon aircraft or morale thing, and those too would come only as the last resort.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No anon said "asteroid", going into the far future where we would capture asteroid wouldn't change anything to what was said. If you have such means, you can already do orbital bombardment as you wish.
          You might as well build a gigantic railgun on the moon, it will be more cost-efficient and easier to protect.

          >Antigravity stealth fighters that may be mistaken for UFOs until WWIII starts
          If you don't give a shit about science you may as well just say wizard exist.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Original anon here, you are right, but I actually meant artificial satellites or other manmade object and forgot that the term "asteroids" refers only to natural ones (unlike meteoroids, which can also refer to manmade object).

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Anon. just to make sure. A Satellite cant be held over a specific part of earth. it can only orbit earth. that is also why spy Satellites arent an absolute and we still need spy planes to cover what cant be by the self enforced orbits of Satellites.

          So, just to clarify if at all, Korea has a Satellite with an Orbit OVER the US and is not STATIONED over the US. If what you saying is true at all in the first place.
          God i love Information wars so much.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stationary_orbit

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Which is really fricking far away and it’s very energy-expensive to drop a nuke from that far. Gives no advantage over any other nuke method.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        GPS satellites are few and far enough away that they wouldn't cause a proper Kessler Syndrome. LEO is the real threat. That place is a crazy house of runaway cascade potential.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Only as long as you can accommodate the propellant cost to dodge.
          A Kessler effect can start at any altitude and spread over multiple orbits and at GEO orbital maneuver cost a lot of fuel.

          LEO will obviously go nuts faster, but it's by 3~400km that the debris will remain for centuries.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Try adding a zero there. Starlinks deorbit from drag by themselves and they at 500 km altitude.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Don't be sucked up by Starlink trying to minimize the risk they take.
              It's logarithmic.
              The ones that fell down quickly were barely at 200km on a waiting orbit when they got fried by solar flares.
              At 500km, Starlink must use propulsion to move their sat for a controlled deorbit before they run out of fuel, or they'd stay for years plural.
              By 600k to 700km, you can reach century to centuries depending on your satellite mass/profile.
              Above 1000km, we are talking of ten thousand years at minimum

              Our current generation of satellites are painfully light.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I hate projectrho morons so much. You're the fuddlore of scifi. Kessler syndrome doesn't work, number one because the critical density is ridiculous, and second because smaller particles deorbit fastest and the big chunks literally stay in the previous orbit because hypersonic collisions are so inelastic that the chunks blown off so fast that no momentum change is transferred to the parts that weren't hit. And the chunks blown off are basically just dust because no material survives.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You are just in denial that it will shape how smarter people than you shape our future in space.

          ...assuming you even understand the math.
          >the critical density is ridiculous
          Only because our current launch capabilities are ridiculously light, scale up to do anything interesting and you'll realize it might a good idea to have stricter regulations than:
          "lol who care if a 7gram pebble might start a cascade destroying decades of space infrastructure? Just wait decades and the lowest orbits should be safeish once we armor all our ships like tanks and track 10^20 debris for hundred of orbits ahead, just pick lucky astronauts!"

          >smaller particles deorbit fastest
          Beside that it can still destroy your stuff during the Kessler effect, it's only an average and the shape of the debris could make them last quite long.

          >big chunks literally stay in the previous orbit because hypersonic collisions are so inelastic that the chunks blown off so fast that no momentum change is transferred to the parts that weren't hit
          ...meaning it will stay in orbit that much longer to be regularly hit by debris and still create shrapnel fully able to destroy other ships.
          Even if it hit a completely inert object with no fuel, no stored gas, no reactive materials, don't get into a rotation that gradually spread debris in a way difficult to imagine.

          >And the chunks blown off are basically just dust because no material survives.
          Plain denial from you that ignore current observation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They might have some sort of super heat resistant projectile on a satellite that they could drop but asteroids would be impossible with current tech.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        asteroids would be a waste considering they could probably make nukes in the gigatons at this point.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        i fully believe we built a testbed for one but never launched it because they weren't able to get through the red tape necessary to have secret orbital weapons

        i fully believe that they have plans for those things designed but they were killed when SDI happened

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Giant Robots

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Rods from God.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Project MARAUDER is the most credible and has terrifying implications.
    >Why yes, us definitely civilian scientists hypothesized that creating a plasma toroid would allow you send extremely high amounts of focused energy at targets through a variety of mediums.
    >Wowee Zowee our initial tests for the DoD were EXTREMELY successful and demonstrated that this future plasma donut launcher absolutely annihilates shit we aim it at.
    >Okay now we're shelving the project buh bye ;^)
    And that was in the fricking 90's...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So they straight up made a sci-fi weapon. Why the frick haven't I heard of this before?
      >"The plasma projectiles would be shot at a speed expected to be 3,000 kilometres per second (1,900 mi/s) in 1995 and 10,000 kilometres per second (6,200 mi/s) (3% of the speed of light) by 2000.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Realistically they probably shelved it because it required the entire capacitor bank from SHIVA STAR to power it and around 1994 polariton lasing systems became a real possibility.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Planet Dirt is more believable than some of the other conspiracy horseshit that's been flung around.
        I'll add to OP since someone already posted Dugway Zapper: Hypersonic lenticular bombers that use external combustion for high speed.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not even like this is some widely known thing either. The only place you can find if discussed are basically here and old posts on ATS.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pic
          Don't mind me dropping the classified files before THE MAN get to me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The next one will be the most important because i...AK!

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Aerospike rocket engines are such a proven technology that amateurs make videos of them on YouTube.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The last bit of the article about the Gulf War is incredibly amusing in retrospect. The author advocating for breaking out top-secret black projects to bomb the frick out of Saddam only for him to be btfo by conventional forces the next year is something else.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/viodkZF.jpeg

            Reminds me of this.
            >Haven't you seen them up close? There's a line source on the wing leading edge. You only have control of the overall output, you can't manage the local plasma density at all. Not like later systems.
            https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread935820/pg1
            I want to say you can see it on photos of the Spirit of Mississippi, but frick if they aren't hard to find now. There was an old Photobucket link in the ATS thread that had one, but it's been dead forever now. This is the closest one I can find besides the roll out photo at Edwards.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/viodkZF.jpeg

            https://i.imgur.com/7TGhJiQ.jpeg

            The next one will be the most important because i...AK!

            Ha, I remember the external combustion ramjets being covered in propulsion courses, fun stuff.

            https://i.imgur.com/cmeKAcr.jpeg

            [...]
            Reminds me of this.
            >Haven't you seen them up close? There's a line source on the wing leading edge. You only have control of the overall output, you can't manage the local plasma density at all. Not like later systems.
            https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread935820/pg1
            I want to say you can see it on photos of the Spirit of Mississippi, but frick if they aren't hard to find now. There was an old Photobucket link in the ATS thread that had one, but it's been dead forever now. This is the closest one I can find besides the roll out photo at Edwards.

            Magnetohydrodynamic flow control is an open secret in the industry at this point.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              My favorite part of the article is where they casually mention they solved the sheathe attenuation problem for comms and guidance with SWERVE.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and 121 ports for dispensing nuclear warheads

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/viodkZF.jpeg

            the reagan administration pumped money into things that didn't have any tangible returns for probably like 30 years, and i don't mean because 'oh we dont know where that money went teehee' i mean it went into chemical lasers and high temperature composites and direct energy weapons and high bandwidth wireless radio and autonomous aircraft. none of it was meant for the mainline defense contractors (well, they weren't at the time. lmao.)

            what im saying is they didnt spend all of that money making a newer sr-71 and it's such a dead giveaway for the kind of person who wrote this puff piece by them extrapolating that the trillions of dollars the government spent on SDI must be going to some massive dick wave boondoggle with the most ridiculous capabilities they could exaggerate

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're being stupid, it was shelved because it was in no way practical to utilize.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      horee shit. so you're telling me all we need to do to convince the DoD to make fusion power a reality is tell them someone else figured out how to make this shit work?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They already figured it out, they just can't find a way to monopolize the tech to keep the world from losing their dependence on oil and manufactured scarcity

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I guess someone should go notify ITER that it is wasting billions.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lockheed apparently shut down their fusion project due to lack of progress.

            Sigh.

            Always 30 years away.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We need to prevent fusion gap against the chinese

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's no enemy on Earth worthy of being attacked by the US with this weapon if it's really real.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most likely due to "We just can't get it small enough" or "we don't have a power source/capacitor powerful enough to put it on the field".

      They are not building a nuclear-powered warship that is all powersystems for one gun. And the gun can not turn around to aim at things, so you'd have to aim by turning the entire ship. Also, it would probably make the ship melt after a few shots. Not worth it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >they are not building a nuclear-powered warship that is all powersystems for one gun
        b-but they could...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Looks like they wanted to fire it along a conjugate point

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It wasn't very practical, they had to connect the thing to the Shiva star capacitor bank and a nuclear power source to produce the needed power and discharge rate and only had an effective range of less than 100 feet.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Submarine-launched JDAMs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who are we bombing? Sealab?

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      We discovered oil in Atlantis?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AgI should be an incredibly high priority for any military. A super intelligence smarter than any human alive could make engineering feats beyond anything we can conceive.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Caseless JDAMs.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Small/Micro constellation swarm attack.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Intercontinental ballistic lasers.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still convinced the aurora is actually a nuclear powered aircraft capable of space flight. It gets it's name from the radiation it shits out creating an aurora type effect.

    It's still classified because everyone would lose their shit that there are nuclear reactors flying over their houses and would worry about one crashing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm convinced Aurora is the codename for whatever ionospheric ducting techniques they use to propagate Le Zapper from a ground station to a conjugate point of Their® choosing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any sources on the ducting thing?
        I really don’t see how it could be used to transport whatever particle beam the zapper produces.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just going off the old ATS posts
          https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread901726/pg3
          An induced plasma channel could be used to propagate a neutral particle beam through the ionosphere. We already know that the military uses ionospheric ducts for comms, and then there was BEAR where we launched a particle accelerator into orbit for "reasons". There is loads of data from Starfish Prime on x-ray/gamma propagation from conjugate point to conjugate point; however, almost of all of it is redacted. There is also some DTIC stuff from the AFRL about sprite formation that covers similar topics. It almost assuredly has to be a ground station, or at least you would think. Whether it's some sort of solid material or a BEC that provides the polariton lasing medium, it would still need a frickload of power for the multiple lasers you need to create the EM induced transparency trap setup (or at least I think, what the to frick do I actually know)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/eEojn1a.png

            And another

            Those are just for HF radio.

            Just going off the old ATS posts
            https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread901726/pg3
            An induced plasma channel could be used to propagate a neutral particle beam through the ionosphere. We already know that the military uses ionospheric ducts for comms, and then there was BEAR where we launched a particle accelerator into orbit for "reasons". There is loads of data from Starfish Prime on x-ray/gamma propagation from conjugate point to conjugate point; however, almost of all of it is redacted. There is also some DTIC stuff from the AFRL about sprite formation that covers similar topics. It almost assuredly has to be a ground station, or at least you would think. Whether it's some sort of solid material or a BEC that provides the polariton lasing medium, it would still need a frickload of power for the multiple lasers you need to create the EM induced transparency trap setup (or at least I think, what the to frick do I actually know)

            I’m general, I’m not buying any sort of ducting thing going on. (Natural) ionospheric ducting only works for some HF radio frequencies. The closest concept I can think of that would make sense is using ‘classic’ beam-crossing induced plasma (the Tic-Tacs) and use it for transport but still, it would be very difficult to do so with many limitations.
            Space platform really does, despite its own problems, seem like the most straightforward solution to me.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And another

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here are some secret weapons concepts that militaries might be working on, keeping in mind the focus on realistic possibilities:

    Directed Energy Weapons:

    High-powered lasers: These could be used to disable enemy vehicles, drones, or even missiles. Prototypes like the U.S. Army's PHASR (Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response Rifle) already exist for non-lethal crowd control.
    Railguns: These weapons use electromagnetic fields to launch projectiles at extreme speeds, potentially bypassing traditional armor.

    Advanced Materials and Weapon Effects:

    Self-repairing materials: Imagine vehicles or armor that can patch up minor damage on the battlefield.
    Non-lethal incapacitants: Weapons that disrupt enemy electronics or cause temporary disorientation could be used for strategic capture.

    Hypersonic Weapons:

    Missiles that travel at speeds exceeding Mach 5: These would be incredibly difficult to defend against, though the technology is still under development by various countries.

    Covert and Disruptive Technologies:

    Advanced cyberwarfare tools: Weapons that can disrupt enemy communication networks or disable critical infrastructure are a growing concern.
    Autonomous weapon systems (AWS): Drones and robots capable of independent targeting raise ethical and international law concerns, but development is likely ongoing.

    Important to remember

    These are just concepts, and the exact capabilities might be far off or even impractical.
    Secrecy is paramount, so details are scarce.
    There's a constant push and pull between offensive and defensive technologies, so countermeasures are likely being developed as well.

    For further exploration, you can search for terms like "directed energy weapons," "hypersonic missiles," or "autonomous weapon systems" to learn more about the underlying technologies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AIslop

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      downvoted

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Fake and gay w4hr2

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >U.S. Army's PHASR (Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response Rifle)
      they really stretched for that acronym didn't they

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Don't listen to these meanies, AI. You did your best, and that's all that matters.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Long range mass blinding lasers. Easy to make, fun to use, less fun to get used on, banned for a good reason but since when that has stopped them?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Backdoors to the computer systems on power plants, factories and stuff like that. Possibly even on avionics or other small scale things.
    At least one or two last resort/MAD orbital nuclear bombs

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      This. And nobody here realises how fricking powerful it actually is.
      I imagine even more complex attack systems that are capable of combined attacks.

      For example:
      When Russia invaded Ukraine, they blocked of Kievs traffic by manipulating the Uber App. They flooded the drivers with legitimate looking requests to pick up a passenger at a crossroad. All drivers went there and blocked the roads.

      Combine this with power cuts, manipulated traffic lights (which is sadly extremely easy) and a few provoked train crashes and you have complete chaos. Your ambulances can't reach the casualties, your hospitals suffer under the power cuts and nobody gets in or out of your city.

      Everything without a single shot fired.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I probably shouldn't talk about this but from 1998-2012 I worked on a breakthrough technology for DARPA and the USAF out of Wright Patterson AFB. The security was so tight that we had to move our cars in the parking lot any time a Russian, French or Chinese spy sat flew over so that they couldn't even get a lead on the number of people working on the project. Thankfully this only lasted a year before they finished construction on a covered parking garage. This technology was a way to both remotely detect and nullify nuclear devices. The problem is that the principle of operations is so simple that even a poor backwards country like North Korea could build such a device and all they would need is to know that it was possible! Literally a highschooler could understand the physics behind it. They were so afraid of Russian or Chinese Intelligence finding out about it but I think if that's the price of a nuclear free world than so be it. I won't reveal the secret but if you are Russia or Chinese, look up the work of these two German physicists, (Dr. Conrad Nutz & Dr. Dietrich Deez) their work on Bridged Alternative Linear Leptons for Strategic Air Command should interest your scientists. Of coarse the big breakthrough came in 1987 when Dr. Stelios Ligma out of Livermore joined up with Dr. Jergan & Dr. Mehoff out of Los Alamos to work on Project SHAFT.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Humongous if genuine

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I hope this is true but if security was that tight , your probably risking your life posting this.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's a total joke post.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Nutz
        >Deez
        >BALLSAC

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Massive if real

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This has already been countered

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ethnic bioweapons

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Stop spreading antisemitic tropes anon, no such thing exists

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MILFpie gravitational solenoids are the new interstellar meta. Helion II comes online in approximately four years. Make supraphysical xenomaterials cheap again.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fictional imaginary weapons that don't exist? sounds like some other board would better suit this thread, it's very off-topic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like someone should frick off back to wherever they came from then

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        but don't you care that this thread is off-topic? dearie me

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because we are discussing actual weapons systems, dipshit. Only a few posts are "off-topic". Ironically, yours is one of them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You seem to be discussing space lasers, cloaking devices, giant robots, newtonian mass drivers, and other things a janny might find off-topic. Only no fun allowed and all.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you a jannie?
              Imagine trying to do a free job which isn't even your responsibility and you don't have any authority lol
              Anyway, this thread is better than some boring repeated zigger being blown up by a drone in some godforsaken no man's land.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh me? No, I could never hope to join the ranks of our dear unremunerated friends; intelligent, brave, handsome, self aware, and most well paid that they are.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God forbid this takes the spot of yet another "Russian tank cope cage" or "Is 9mm enough to kill a Wendingo" thread

              • 7 days ago
                Anonymous

                But would 9mm be enough to kill a cope cage?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesn't like watching ziggers get deleted in 4k60fps while he enjoys his morning coffee
                it seems you've outed yourself as a redditor.
                Also, +1 to bump limit.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >missiles inbound from Belarus
    >satellite blasting lasers from space
    Why do the steppe mongols hate Germans so much?

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5th gen is far worse and far more insidious than kinetics.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      An overly broad definition of ‘weapon’ would absolutely ruin this board
      Please stick to sharp rocks and the tools that propel them

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Cool it with the antisemitic remarks pal

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't know

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite is shutting down the NASA aerospike engine program despite it being incredibly promising. I'm sure they didn't just blackproject that for the airforce or whatever.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking glowies hogging all the SSTO crafts and personal space ships

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The engine wasn't the problem. They wanted to make a single stage to orbit shuttle and the only fuel that has enough energy is hydrogen. Building hydrogen tanks that won't leak is hard enough, but doing a complex shape that would fit into a shuttle and is light enough to stay under the mass budget is practically impossible. I believe it was called Venture star or something.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They 100% have electro-lasers for EW and ionizing radiation lasers assassinations

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real superweapons are realistically really boring. The NSA leaks from 2014 sort of give an idea on what sort of stuff the DoD is cooking up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And what's that?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Information gathering on an unfathomable scale via smart phones

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's illegal.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, but there are certain protections for the data of certain populations. The popular image of federal agents is faceless men in suits operating above the law but in reality your average glowie will get legally crucified for violating these protections.
            Which populations, you ask? Americans, first and foremost.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    I think .17hmr is really cool

    What about that leaked "Tear Drop" mass weapon someone was posting about a while ago? I've been thinking about it, some anon posted about a giant teardrop shaped mass that could just fly and smash into things at reality breaking speeds.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You're thinking of "Three Body Problem" anon

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Stargate

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Mass Autism Arrays

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Quite frankly I believe it. The mass induction of certain types of autism could be extremely useful under specific circumstances.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Which specific circumstances?

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Towed laser. Powerful enough to zap ICBM's while they're still in space. Some powerful enough to zap while even still underwater.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      that's bullshit but I believe it

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        submarines are not limited like spacecraft who require massive radiators to deal with the heat. There's nothing really stopping you from making a submarine with a power output rivaling powerplants. Having power like that can allow you to do funny things with lasers.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Wouldn't the heat spread through the ship first, killing the crew, before it gets cooled by the water?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            No

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Wouldn't the heat spread through the ship first, killing the crew, before it gets cooled by the water?
            The heat is generated at mostly 2 place:
            - The reactor providing power (then stored into capacitors)
            - The device turning electricity into laser

            The reactor is already constantly cooled as it recharge the capacitors, there's no extra heat generated here
            The laser device is separate and can be cooled preemptively if the heat generated during the shot is too high

            The difference between submarine & spaceship is
            - spaceship can only "radiate" the heat, which is very inefficient, difficult and slow.
            - submarine transfer heat to the water through convection, which is far more efficient and you are only limited by how much cold water you can pump.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Hell, put the capacitors/generator outside the sub in a towed array with large radiator fins and you basically have the whole ocean as instant coolant. Dive under 200 meters and the water is close to freezing temperatures, which works even better.

              >submarines in the sky
              Wut. Please teach me the ancient lore.

              The SRDRS (and the DSRVs before them) get flown by USAF C-5 all the time. It's how they get deployed to rescue sub crews if they get disabled underwater. The SEALs also have air-transportable SDVs that fit in a C-130.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >have the whole ocean as instant coolant
                >instant
                No, no, no. Convection take time and even if heated water will naturally expand and go up, efficiently transferring heat require a proper cooling line.

                Submarine is already using the ocean to cool itself, the trick is doing that, staying silent and not being easily detectable to sonar pulse.

            • 7 days ago
              Anonymous

              Electrically ex item lasers are simply toys for the application you are talking about. Your submarine needs to store compounds that are more dangerous and unstable than the fissile material inside the reactor of your submarine since you will need chemical lasers to produce a power outout nearly useful for military purposes. Which are very dangerous devices to operate especially inside aa fricking submarine. And for what ends, shooting down satellites where an air launched anti satellite missile would do?
              Not a sound concept, at all.

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    i am 90% sure that there is a Boeing 747 modified to poop out palletized JASSMss

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Boeing 747 modified
      The only modification is the rear ramp to open in flight.

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically probably ICBMs capable of deploying drone swarms.
    >Able to kill one specific person anywhere in the world within 45 minutes without any collateral damage even if they are in the middle of a crowd of people.

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    AI. not the cool kind but the unironically terrifying kind
    not because the AI will become sentient and take control but because of how powerful yet subtle it can be as a tool/weapon for surveillance and mass control

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      and yes of course AI is already implemented for that but its also contantly in development. AIs could also end up completely ruining the internet

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      and yes of course AI is already implemented for that but its also contantly in development. AIs could also end up completely ruining the internet

      This unironically

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The NSA was supposed to be working on an AI that could read people's minds back in 2011 but all you can find online now is a single business insider article mentioning it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That would be Aquaint, and there's a PBS article on it too that sounds like it could be describing the latest chat gpt model. Only, instead of having access to the internet it is able to read all the data the NSA's been collecting for the past 2 decades.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Most likely some sort of distant and small direct jammer of scanners. Basically, equip this module into a gen five craft and it actively intercepts and feeds incorrect data to systems trying to scan it. You detect a Typhoon? No, you didn't. You see nothing. Probably doesn't work for a long time but works long enough to fool automated systems and SAM's for enough time that you could do your sortie and get out. Also requires any manned station to know what the hell is actually happening and start adjusting to compensate for it. Makes 5th gen craft capable of doing more bold strikes that only a 6th gen would be capable of. Other countries couldn't publicly acknowledge this without announcing their weapon systems have a fatal flaw and thus, hurt their bottom line in platform sales.

    Combine this with a particular type of UV lidar type system that fires out lasers and is calibrated for baseline light levels and shoots out UV light slightly stronger than that. Reads for shadow and highlights that on the GUI. Would allow for detection of stealth craft. The radar doesn't see it. The instruments don't see it, but they can't bend light around the aircraft yet. Better yet, there's probably no way to detect if you've been seen doing this, and if it is, a pilot who has been lit up doing this might assume an instrument failure as you're nearly 900 miles out and you read "ENEMY LOCK" for seemingly no reason because the world's most expensive flashlight has seen you from 70,000 feet up. Even if you knew it was there, you scan where it could be, and it just comes back as nothing for seemingly no reason. Just the biggest ??? a pilot could have.

    Of course, this probably doesn't work in real life beyond inner child seven year old imagination. Chances are coriolis effect in combination with atmospheric disturbance that comes with screaming at mach 5 makes any sort of light tech beyond a directed laser absolutely not viable, and spoofing is known and protected against.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Towed jammer/ ecm are already a thing.
      >Combine this with a particular type of UV lidar type system that fires out lasers and is calibrated for baseline light levels and shoots out UV light slightly stronger than that
      Your slightly stronger uv emission will attenuate into nothing in the lossy medium thay is the atmosphere. Where uv radiation is abundant due to the thing we call the sun. Your system will be jammed all the time. Signal to noise ratio is extremely shit in this type of application where you need to detect things at very long distances where shit like cloud s exist. Thats why no one uses it, not because nobody has ever thought of it.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >but they can't bend light around the aircraft yet
      That you know of!

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The remote heart attack gun is all but confirmed

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You may not like it, but the US is 6 million years ahead in military tech. The US military & government holds the keys to the meaning of life & death, has both friendly & evil alien helpers (ET/FNORD), psychic "remote viewing" spies, time travel tech, fleets of reverse-engineered antigravity alien tech "TR-3B Black Triangle" flying ship's powered by element 115, communication with ghosts the afterlife & the unborn, triple-barreled M551A666 PsychoSheridan tank's, 75th Rangers exoskeleton-hip-fired gyro-stabilised 120mm infantry mortars with pinpoint accuracy during 25mph sprint, access to other "parallel" universes, NSA/DARPA GGGQEP quantum ∞(±6^∀)Petahertz microprocessors to eavesdrop on every single electronic & non-electronic communication in the world even sign language underneath 1km of EMF Kevlar, "Rods from God" (just 1 orbital tungsten telephone pole = two Czar Bombas), the 300,000-strong "Fighting Molemen" U.S. SUBTERRANEAN FORCE, FT LEE VA (the secret "7th branch" existing since 1899), quantum IFVs, "phase-shifting" Armored Recovery Vehicles, new "Stealth" tech that makes jet's invisible to Radar. Shoulder-fired ASAT missiles. Stealth field kitchens. This is publicized in Stargate SG1, scientific research publication Popular Science, only a fraction of the more spooky & shadowy stuff not listed above is merely hinted at in Marvel Cinematic Universe™, history documentary Red Alert 2, time travel documentary Life is Strange (David Madsen was a rogue DIA test subject), but the pardoned parcel is the US of A is at least 6 million years ahead in military tech even without the help of alien's. It is 6 million years ahead though the exact number fluctuates due to the activities of the US Military Time Travel Program underneath Barksdale, A. F. B., L.A., this 6 million years ahead is a universally agreed-upon average by the world & intergalactic/ET scientific communities.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >"remote viewing" spies
      That was just a crutch until we figured out the underlying mechanism and built a 100% reliable, high fidelity "device" with functions beyond just real-time viewing.

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Urethra eating nanites. Don't ask me for my source, I've already said too much.

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Holographic radar projections. Brilliant pebbles.

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >What are some secret weapons concepts that we can realistically assume military powers have or are in advanced development?

    Optical camo like that from Ghost Recon FS

    Some form of rudimentery Exo-suits

    Those robot dogs withs machineguns on them, but in a super advanced form like from the Division

    Reliable caseless ammunition/weapons for clandestine ops

    Some sort of orbital laser or weapon system.

    Interstellar fighter like NGAD or x-47b

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay.

  41. 1 week ago
    Texas

    Nuclear powered satelite death ray

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The big one I never see anyone talk about is neutron beams used as nuclear defense. To keep the weight and size down the neutron reflectors in nukes are thin and could be penetrated by a concentrated beam causing fission.
    The neutron gun itself would be hard to aim but you could use a neutron reflector to aim it easily and airburst any incoming nukes high enough to get minimal blast damage on the ground.

    The closest thing to this I have ever read is
    https://www.twz.com/27039/budget-docs-show-pentagon-aims-to-loft-particle-beam-anti-missile-weapon-into-space-in-four-years

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >airburst
      I've wondered about this too. But since it's a light-speed beam couldn't you do the same from Orbit as soon as silo doors open exposing the rocket? And without precise explosive confinement i doubt they'd even fussion, let alone burst. They might fizzle out rupturing the missile or simply melt and deform warhead making it a dirty conventional explosive at best.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You are right, it would be a fizzle but it would still destroy the bomb. As for the effective range I have no idea, it would depend how long you could keep a beam of similary charged particals from repelling eachother and dispersing the beam.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >similary charged particals
          >charged
          neutrons

          Your biggest challenge would be generating strong enough, collimated and aimed beam to do anything. Then get it trough atmosphere without being absorbed and dispersed. That's why i like the orbital solution. Firing straight down you can take the shortest path. Or even wait for missile to Rise higher up and nerf it before staging. Much more elegant than trying to hit several terminal hypersonic RVs just to have the crap rain down.

          OR. You could be real cheeky and slowly beam them whenever they're not protected by silo lid poisoning the fissile material and making them all duds. OTOH that's a very risky and easily detectable move. Unless you know exactly what detectors they have ( gaiger counters are shit for neutrons an each neutron temperature needs their own type )

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yep I'm a fricking idiot, I was thinking of electron beams.
            >That's why i like the orbital solution.
            Yeah, if you can get though the atmosphere ok you can drop the trash on the enemy instead of yourself.

            >You could be real cheeky and slowly beam them whenever they're not protected by silo lid poisoning the fissile material and making them all duds
            That makes be wonder if you could frick the tritium, even if the bomb still works better it be a fission bomb instead of a fusion bomb.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >wonder if you could frick the tritium
              You fricking pervert

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    tactical algae bloom area denial weapons

  44. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    LED strips lining the borders to make them visible from the orbit is a sweet concept, weapons or not.

  45. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    NEMESIS and related sensor spoofing shenanigans

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