Say what you want about British tank design, you have to admit that the Cromwell was one of the tanks of WW2.
Say what you want about British tank design, you have to admit that the Cromwell was one of the tanks of WW2.
Say what you want about British tank design, you have to admit that the Cromwell was one of the tanks of WW2.
Named after a cunt
I wish there was a British tank called the Bongsmith. I'm sure that's a British name.
Why don't you like democracy? Do you think we should just have a Catholic absolute monarchy?
Yes
Only if it's the Habsburgian one that was stolen from us.
the only based government is a theocratic fitocracy. anything else is for gays
>Catholic absolute monarchy
Yeah
They should've also named a battleship after him.
Cromwell was indeed an tank, with speed and firepower. It looks and performs like it was designed by Jeremy Clarkson himself. That is not a compliment.
What is sloped armor?
A crutch.
Baby don't pen me
sloped armour is sloppy armour
Not enough people appreciate that the British built some of the tanks in the war.
Canada built some of the tanks as well, both British designs like Valentines in large numbers, but also this prime example of an tank, which was never used as an tank but saw extensive service as one of the first full tracked and well armored APCs ever mass produced
>box turret
>on box chassis
>tiny not-a-muzzle brake with no holes at the tip
this is what a child would make if you told him to draw a tank
>gigantic hole plug in the armor for the driver to see out of
>comically large bolts
>derated fighter engine
>no reverse
>riveted armor
You're up early this morning Mr shill.
i guess being retarded is okay when bongs do it.
The tank in the OP has a fake gun
Looks like a retarded tiger
If you're looking for actually good British WWII tanks, look at the Churchill.
>not Matilda notorious for absurd slope traverse to the point of surprising Krauts in Africa despite slow speed
For infantry support as an assault gun? Sure. Otherwise highly dubious when E2s existed for cheaper.
Churchill is hands down the best tank of WW I.
It did well against Finland because we were on the defensive with poor AT and that thing has half a metre of armour plating
still an objectively better tank than the sherman death trap
the cromwell doesnt really beat the sherman in any way other than top speed, which is an incredibly niche advantage due to the tendency for vehicles to move slowly to remain concealed
but the 76mm armed sherman was already in theatre less than a month after the cromwell showed up, which meant wet storage and a commanders cupola in addition to a better main gun
Cromwell would have been a decent tank... in 1942. Fielding it in mid-1944 was a symptom of what was going wrong with British tank development in WW2.
British tank development was a result of their industrial capability. Another anon made a really good post about it a while back, along the lines of most British metal working industry was centered around ship building and the labour pool were good at riveting and didn't have much capacity for riveting and welding.
British had the most aesthetic tanks of WW2 on average if you exclude the jumbo Sherman and Pershing from the US
I like that games workshop directly copied that circular hatch for old space marine vehicles
Why does it have those ridiclous bolts?
They generate the forcefield.
the armor was literally bolted on to the chassis
late models were welded though, as more welders became available, and its successor the comet had both cast and welded components
it adds character and rustic charm, like a properly broken in pub
Dunno, I like bong tanks. They have that "so retarded they're kinda cool" sort of charm
That's British equipment in general. Very strange and novel offering specific advantages, but usually with some glaring downside that you have to change your doctrine to operate around. I kind of like it though because it produces cool equipment you'd never see otherwise, like starstreak etc.
Yeah I mean and part of it was the doctrine specifically called for admittedly kinda silly things that would probably make more sense today than then.
Specifically the
>big heavy tanks hangout with the infantry to support them and engage soft targets
>small fast tanks run around and recon
Notice the severe lack of anti armor in their armor doctrine, if every tommie had a javelin this might make sense. When they at best have a spring loaded grenade launcher and field guns it’s going to be a rough time against enemies that are very fixated on armored doctrine. The idea that light tanks were the ones that were engaging in tank on tank combat is one real massive L because of the constraints of size and speciality in speed limits both the armor and the gun, which works when you have it in an infantry support role, not your main mechanized wing. Which is probably why one of their more successful tanks of the war was built outside of government contract.
>Notice the severe lack of anti armor in their armor doctrine
they actually suffered from too much anti-armor early on
every tank and their grandmother had the 2-pdr, which in 1939 was an excellent anti-tank gun
but it didnt have an HE round until it was obsoleted as an anti-tank gun, and when it did arrive it had the HE filler of a hand grenade making it only slightly better than just trying to snipe someone with the AP round
they switched out to the 6-pdr/75mm mix on their mid-war tanks since the former had better anti-armor properties and the latter had a big HE shell
Box turrets are something most militaries still use today in artillery and quickbuilds, it's not strange at all.
What happens when a shell hits the rivet?
it makes a really loud twang noise and spins off into infinity because gaijin fucked up volumetric hit detection
>better penetration than a early war Shermans
>fast as fuck
>low profile
>cool
She deserved better
>better penetration
eeeehhhhh, the gun with more penetration (6lbr) required knocking the turret down to two man, and the three man turret could only fit the anemic 2lbr
my mistake I thought that was a Crusader which is definitely a cool little tank, on closer inspection it's an unmitigated dumpster fire (Covenantor)
>upon closer inspection I realized I fucking misclicked from my bong vehicle folder. Furthermore I don’t care if it cut the turret crew to two, my ideal light tank is two dudes and a remote drone operator.
In WW2 radios were hard to use, autoloaders were rare to the point of novelty, and tanks requires constant backbreaking physical maintenance. I won't go on any of the "hurr unreliable" or "muh christie" tangents that ghe Crusader is usually criticized for, but cutting the crew down to 3 is pushing the lower limits of viability for a good, solid tank.
Counterpoint: Lozenge look cool
>Same if not better hull protection than the cromwell
>low profile
>6pdr better AP than 75mm guns making it decent at engaging medium armor
>75mm gave it good AP allowing it to support infantry against soft targets better
>even the soviets admitted they liked it.
Give that bitch a late war engine and
some more turret armor and we are chilling. No need for a cromwell and we can just move to the better comet saving costs and logistics burden, and then, the centurion.
Someone called?
It is shocking how Brits would clear projects for tanks in a time of steel crisis that look like they were drawn in Paint.
And then you have shit like putting the engine radiators on the frontal top panel....like..what the shit?
This is why tanks are so cool. In WW2 British things I think you can see the aesthetics of a country that was really into making trains at the time. American tanks are the product of automobile manufacturers.
Not necessarily that railway companies made them but railway companies were training up large numbers of engineers who went into tank and plane companies during the war.
Good tank, decent 6 pounder gun, 12 degrees of gun depression and excellent speed. The main issues were terrible reverse speed and the boxy turret, but at least it meant you didn't have to just only rely on manlets to be able to fit inside it.
What's the little armored car behind the cromwell
Humber Scout Car
>Cromwell was one of the tanks of WW2.
hard to argue otherwise
It's funny because he didn't include an adjective.
>rivet construction
Bong AFV designers really hate their crews dont they?
>you have to admit that the Cromwell was one of the tanks of WW2
this is true, i do admit the cromwell was one of the tanks of ww2.
> was one of the tanks of WW2
yes it was a tank in WW2, just like the bob steeple