Salomon gear?

Anyone here have any experience with Salomon gear and clothing?

Mostly been using Lundhags and Haglofs in the past. How does Salomon compare?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i tried many but now only use salomon hiking boots, all year. a set of light boots for summer/dry/city use and these for heavy/longhike/wet/winter use.
    too bad they catch fire or melt when exposed to garage use like grinding or welding...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How long does it take you until the outsole gets ground to nothing on yours?

      I've had two pairs of Lundhags hiking boots and their outsoles lasted about 3 and 4 years of 20-30k steps a day. And they're also a fair bit pricier.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        at most two years and they are no longer water proof but i blame that more on my other hobbies as said above and i find it reasonable considering i use them daily.
        the fabric is still fine on my 6-8 year old ones and the soles are halfway through.
        boots are consumables.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hm, that's pretty good. I won't lie, paying half the price for something that lasts half as long sounds way better.

          Seems to be way less leather on their products too. If it means I won't have to autistically grease and wax my boots every season I'll take it.

          Thanks dude.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >at most two years and they are no longer water proof
          Quests? Because for those it's boots in particular. It's molded so tight to the upper that the toe box and heel wear out ridiculously fast. I get about a year to year and a half with those. But I don't care because of the performance. My Salomon snow boots on the other hand have lasted for at least 6 years even though it's their proprietary membrane, and some of the upper material is worn. And if you have gtx boots, Gore Tex will do a lifetime warranty for the life of the boots. I've done it a couple times, but if more people did it I think Salomon would fix their design for the quests.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            salomon's boots are very good, but they are polarizing so you may not like them. they are geared for peak performance, comfort, and to not have a break in period. they do not last very long. 900 miles is what you can expect out of any boot using an eva foam midsole because it packs down over time. you can push a pair to about 2500 miles if you need to on a thru hike. but they are not meant to last.
            if you PrepHole a lot and are willing to pay in reduced lifespan for performance, they are good boots. about as good as a normal non mountaineering boot can get.

            its not a big deal though, 4d's are eva midsole boots so they're only supposed to last 600-900 miles anyways. you can wear them out before then, but chances are you're probably hiking on them past when the midsole is shot. i used to. hurts your knees.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              > they do not last very long. 900 miles is what you can expect out of any boot using an eva foam midsole because it packs down over time.
              Damn, that's nearly exactly a year of usage for me. I average around 1500km a year like clockwork.

              That is a fair bit less than the more expensive alternatives I've used. Still an attractive option. Spending less money is always nice since I got a bunch of other gear that needs replacing too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                all eva midsole boots have the same short "max" lifespan. it only marginally differs with the thickness, but they are all similar. if you want longer lasting boots that aren't as stiff as a full leather boot, look into boots with polyurethane midsoles. a good pu boot will last you a whole year. they are like a middle ground in durability and comfort and weight. they just don't like being not-walked-on, so don't store them.
                you can totally walk on boots once the mid-sole is shot too. a lot of people do 2000 mile thru hikes in a single pair. its just that after these mileages, the midsole "bottoms out" and a fresh pair will be noticably way better to walk in.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dunno what material these were. But they lasted about 4 years of being used nearly daily for 7/12 months of the year before they started looking like someone had taken a grinder to the bottom.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >at most two years
          i also feel like in two years you've probably walked the mileage they're designed to last on this one.
          a lot of anons don't seem to understand this, so i will explain it really quick:
          eva midsole boots are supposed to last 500-900 miles depending on how thick and dense the eva is.
          pu midsole boots are supposed to last longer, but they rot when stored and not walked on once in a while.
          leather midsoles are resoleable and fully replaceable. only boots like this does how long the upper lasts matter much.
          how long the upper of the boot doesn't really matter that much if the boot's internals only last so long. its easy to not notice it creep in over time, but once that eva is shot its shot.
          not a salomon thing, this applies to all hiking boots.
          disagree with it or whatever, this is the design philosophy all modern hiking boots use and how you are meant to treat them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Salomon doesnt make hiking boots. That's a tabbing boot. Hardly a boot.

      How long does it take you until the outsole gets ground to nothing on yours?

      I've had two pairs of Lundhags hiking boots and their outsoles lasted about 3 and 4 years of 20-30k steps a day. And they're also a fair bit pricier.

      with the quest 4d the toe cap and and the upper will separate before you wear down the outsole. About 500 to 600km.

      If you want something for daily wear get something all leather with a replacable sole. Stitched if possible because a rubber rand is another common point of failure.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >before you wear down the outsole.
        eva midsole boots are shot long before the outsole wears out. they're not meant to last long. with an eva sole boot like quest 4d's you're walking on foam, which compresses every step. comfortable, but short life.
        there's nothing wrong with 4d's, you just have the wrong assumption about how long the modern style hiking boots are meant to last. the marketing material usually tells you they're only meant for 500-900 miles, depending on brand.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >ackchually
        dont care didnt ask.
        "the gold standard of what a great hiking boot should be..."

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          he is right that the toe cap separates pre-maturely on 4d's sometimes.
          i say they're supposed to last 500-900 miles but he notes having failures at 300 miles, which i have had happen too.
          in my case, the time it happened it was a small enough separation that i just injected it with silicone and it lasted the rest of the boot's life. but it is a flaw with the boot, and the #1 thing that could be improved with it.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if you want boots that are designed to be worn until there's holes in them, the only boots designed this way are all leather boots (including the internals you can't see.)
    the reason they are not so popular is because they are the bottom of the list for weight, comfort, water proofness, and they have long break in periods. but if you want boots that last there is no alternative to a full leather boot designed to be re-soled.
    pu and eva boots are more expensive and consoooomer and fill the landfill more but perform better on every metric other than lifespan, which is why they are the most popular. most ppl will shell out some $$ every year for dry feet and easier miles every hike.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pretty good but sadly they dont have a large selection of size 15 boots

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Their bag is pretty good
    Good volume to weight ratio given the price

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I trail run so I'm only familiar with their trail runners and ultralight gear but they're pretty much understood to be among the best quality gear on the market and in the competitive scene. Their sizing can be polarising are someone said, they tend to run narrow although they fit me true to size and I love them for that. They have actually started doing wider fits although I dont care for that. The shoes are pretty decently priced for their quality, similar to other top brands. Their clothing on the other hand I dont feel is generally worth the high price point, even if they are well made and look nice. Their trail packs are also really well designed and made, but there are other manufactors making similar quality gear for half the price so I feel its a branding thing. They're going the line of high fashion too, reproducing old overpriced trail runners for sneakerheads, but I hope they don't run away with that

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the toe cap goes back really far, is vulcanized on, and you're supposed to size up boots meaning on a lot of people's feet they crease right where the toe cap is. it makes it separate.
    lowa has some really similar boots to 4d's without the problem, but they don't have a toe cap at all or all that toe box protection, which is part of the appeal to the 4d's.

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