S.Korea to go full-on CATOBAR

>KAI vows to make a carrier based variant of KF-21. The mock up will be unveiled next week.
It's over nipbros... We'll be the only country in the region that will be left without a true CSG....

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Koreans have been secretly admiring QE in its originally planned form.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      QE was designed as a STOVL carrier wish rolling vertical landings. Swapping to CATOBAR was built into the design but it was never the original design. Doing CATOBAR with less than 100k tons and 4 catapults tons is pointless, you'll get a better sortie rate with F-35B. The exception to this would be if you have a dogshit STOBAR carrier with only conventional aircraft (Su-33, MiG 29k etc), in those cases its better just not bothering and developing a better jet before trying to into carriers.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >look up worst Korea's proposed carrier
    A
    FUCKING
    RAMP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know Hyundai is one of those east asian megacorps that does a little bit of everything, but the thought of a fucking aircraft carrier with a Hyundai badge on the front of it tickles me in a way few things do.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mitsubishi Heavy is the same

        F-2 fighter (4.5+ gen Japanese F-16)
        X-2 5th gen demonstrator
        F-15J (Japanese F-15)
        Type 10 and Type 90 Tanks
        Type 99 155mm SPG
        Various Destroyers and Submarines
        Type 89 IFV
        Rockets (both offensive and for space flight)
        Satellites and various other spacecraft and probes

        and more.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          couldn't you just have like one landing strip and a bunch of vertical launch cells instead of this pagoda nightmare?
          surely in CP2077 tech has gone to a point where you don't actually need a physical pilot inside a fighter jet so launch Gs shouldn't be an issue.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not supposed to make sense.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The landing AI is so good why would it need it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mitsubishi Heavy is the same

        F-2 fighter (4.5+ gen Japanese F-16)
        X-2 5th gen demonstrator
        F-15J (Japanese F-15)
        Type 10 and Type 90 Tanks
        Type 99 155mm SPG
        Various Destroyers and Submarines
        Type 89 IFV
        Rockets (both offensive and for space flight)
        Satellites and various other spacecraft and probes

        and more.

        If all your assorted Fujitsu devices start putting too much of a mark on your utilities bill, well, they can also make you a nuclear power plant.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chaebols are extremely powerful in Korea. Both socially and politically. In Japan, it was powerful politically but was never a socially powerful thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those ramps are from HHI's CVX model, which was only there to be able to cater to the Navy's F-35B operability demand. But now that it's gone, there's nothing preventing it from being a full-out catobar carrier.

      They zeroed out the carrier from their 2023 budget tho...

      >They zeroed out the carrier from their 2023 budget tho
      Yeah, in order to complement the project and make extensive researches to bring it a whole new level.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They allocated a budget to study what to do next on the acc to focus on fast tracking the nuclear submarines

        SK will develop their own aircraft carrier (most expensive, with UK or French support), buy from the UK or France, or convert existing helicopter carriers to light acc (cheapest option particularly with vtol aircrafts, like Japan did)

        The fact SK placed an order for more F-35As back in July says they're not going to field the CVX until at least the mid 2030s.

        Originally it was supposed to have F-35Bs which would've taken until ~2030 to be delivered at the current pace.

        Now they want to domestically develop a carrier launched KF-21? Maybe by 2035 they'll have a carrier capable KF-21 considering the Block 10/20/30 are already planned for 2026/2028/2030. I don't see where they fit the KF-21N in until at LEAST 2032/3 and probably later.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      STOBAR > CATOBAR

      P.S. Prove me wrong fuckers, I know you can’t.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They zeroed out the carrier from their 2023 budget tho...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They allocated a budget to study what to do next on the acc to focus on fast tracking the nuclear submarines

      SK will develop their own aircraft carrier (most expensive, with UK or French support), buy from the UK or France, or convert existing helicopter carriers to light acc (cheapest option particularly with vtol aircrafts, like Japan did)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Izumos are already basically the very smallest you can get and still operate the 35s in any meaningful capacity, and the Dokdos are even smaller, so I don't see them being converted.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe try puting the first 4th+ gen. KF-21 moron fighter into production first. Big dreams, big talk, little budget, little production.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey Korea. Why aren’t you people helping with freedom of navigation ops? I don’t want to read anymore of your naval threads until you address this issue.

      Hey, how does it feel to get doxxed, Nintendo?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey Korea. Why aren’t you people helping with freedom of navigation ops? I don’t want to read anymore of your naval threads until you address this issue.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SK is among the most active in anti-piracy operations and have probably killed more pirates than the next five countries combined

      This particular op is kino, Somalis hijack a Norwegian ship in Indian Ocean waters, long story short all Somali pirates killed, 100% crew freed with no casualties, 0% casualties of SK special operations marines which were supported by SK helicopter gunship, Norway had ship return largely undamaged

      Your welcome Norway

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why the fuck does Mongolia have cargo ships?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hint:they're not actually Mongolian at all, just registered there.
          Ever wonder why so many merchant ships are registered under Panama or Liberia?
          They're called flags of convenience qnd are part of the wacky, shady world of admiralty law.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >South Koreans
      >Needlessly offending China.
      >Wanting to protect Taiwan
      LMAO.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll never understand Koreans' obsession over Japan.
    Didn't the Nips actually help developed Korea during colonial rule? Why do they hate them so much?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't the Nips actually help developed Korea during colonial rule?
      They didn't develop it based on good will per se, most of it was just part of private companies moving its manufacturing facilities outside the country like car manufacturers flocking to Mexico to build factories because it has cheaper labor and low regulations. Also, most of the infrastructures were located in the north, which eventually ended up in the hands of commies.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The obsession with nips among the incel and chud class is incessant

        I don't think I've ever met a Japanese person in my life in the US they don't really exist outside of Hawaii, they are as foreign to me as it gets

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There are over 4000 in my county, so they're around. My highschool class had 3 or 4 Japanese kids in it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is this Hawaii or California? They just don't exist on the East Coast or the Midwest

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              East coast US.

              Suburb outside a decent size metro area, but even so it's not in the city itself or super higher population density.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They exist in new york too, believe it or not. But they tend to be at well known states like hawaii or whatever. There's like 1.4 million Japanese in the U.S.A

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              More japs then you'd think exist in parts of the Midwest and Texas, but they're largely multigenerational rural farmers and keep to themselves.
              Most do live in the West Coast and Mountain West though

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yea, they tend to keep their origins to themselves. Some places in texas even have local Japanese festivals.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's like close to a million Japanese in the U.S. along with a proximity of 3 million jap tourists that visit the U.S. each year. Some visit states like texas and such while majority will go to California or Hawaii.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They didn't develop it based on good will per se
        Do you think US helping out Japan post war was a good thing or just private companies doing things? Or the Marshall Plan over Europe?

        People like to be extremists and claim it can't be good will if theres profit involved, but thats just stupid. Profit just means you can do business in longer time scale without government intervention. Profit means business can be built and run for decades on a continual basis and train the work force of the country.

        Anyone arguing goodwill cannot co-exist with profit is a retard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >trying to teach someone over the stuffs that you have completely no clue about.
          You must be over 18 to post here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the development was in the north since thats where all the rezources were

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They colonized Korea like the English colonized the Americas.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting, considering Korea shelved its carrier plans.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought Worst Korea canceled their carrier anyway

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are fast tracking nuclear submarines and holding studies on whether to develop, buy or convert helicopter carriers, there's something like US$50 million in this years budget allocate to this study which seems like a big number for an assessment

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Correct. This must be for international sales (which will be even more unlikely)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > International sales unlikely

        Latest top 10 defense export sales as of year to date 2022 based on $ revenue:

        US
        South Korea
        France
        Russia
        Germany
        Spain
        Italy
        China
        Netherlands
        UK

        Countries love anything SK weapons related these days, like kpop with teenaged girls except kweapons with military types, don't know how they do it to be honest

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair, they've got good specs and western influenced MIC, but we really don't know about some of these systems korea is pushing out. They SHOULD be good on paper, but hard to say for sure.

          They're probably fine for countries that want higher end military capabilities but on a budget.

          Most western nations are blowing their budgets on F-35s, so if they can save some money buying Korean tanks or SPGs, or FA-50s for advanced trainers, then why not?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            South Korean weapons are expensive

            K2 costs more than the M1a2sep3 and the Leopard 2, something like 3x the cost of a Leclerc or Challenger 2, but still sells more units than any other mbt

            Some of their other weapons are really expensive to even down to the Daewoo K2 assault rifle, costs more than the M4 carbine and 2x the H416

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Planes, anon. Specifically for carriers.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but who the hell operates a CATOBAR carrier that doesn't also have the money to develop their own planes for it? If it were STOBAR compatible that would be a different story but making an F35C competitor is a retarded prospect as there's nobody to sell it to

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The Netherlands is one of the top 10 arms exporters in the world
          >they rank above the anglos

          Excuse me, but wtf.Since when do wooden shoes count as combat gear?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone who has money for a carrier has money to buy American or French. That's a waste of development money.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty much, which is why UK, Japan and Italy bought F35B, but mainly because there is no suitable alternative.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought they cancelled their carrier plans like a week or two ago?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im starting to think that these obvious SK vs jap threads are made by falseflagging chinks eternally seething that in any and all possible future scenarios, SK and japan will ultimately team up to wipe the bugs from existance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's just one autistic koreaboo who is ecstatic that his country actually has something to be proud of, for once.
      I have seen this exact post before:

      > International sales unlikely

      Latest top 10 defense export sales as of year to date 2022 based on $ revenue:

      US
      South Korea
      France
      Russia
      Germany
      Spain
      Italy
      China
      Netherlands
      UK

      Countries love anything SK weapons related these days, like kpop with teenaged girls except kweapons with military types, don't know how they do it to be honest

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. chink

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's just one autistic koreaboo who is ecstatic that his country actually has something to be proud of, for once.
      I have seen this exact post before: [...]

      Nah, that's your average Korean unironically. The moronshill here is literally parroting what their government (Blue House) said.
      Their obsession with Japan is a national disease.

      https://news.zum.com/articles/61925596

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You say as the thread is full of jap fags spamming their cope. Fucking dumass incel cant figure out that japs will never get a single aircraft carrier.
        The seething is hilarious. The spamming is pathetic.
        I bet you will think about Korea as you tie the rope.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Koreans post about weapons development
        >japs spam the board about Korea
        Open and shut case

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You say as the thread is full of jap fags spamming their cope. Fucking dumass incel cant figure out that japs will never get a single aircraft carrier.
        The seething is hilarious. The spamming is pathetic.
        I bet you will think about Korea as you tie the rope.

        jap vs korea is such funny beef

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >copies F-22
    >refuses to elaborate further
    >leaves

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny. They really are going in on their F18 copy.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >morons go crazy over the slim prospect of finally achieving something japan did 100 years ago in the 2030s or 40s

    korea is literally a synonym for rent free

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More like this. Also, Koreans have the lowest crime rate in Japan by ethnic. Can't really find any of them violent as morons are in the west.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. eternally cucked jap

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nip bros, how do we stop the morons?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't have to.
      Every great power has its own share of butthurtbelters obsessed with them, and their existence is kinda testament to the country's superiority and glorious history.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You PrepHolepop stans are so fucking cringe

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They've put no money towards it, I don't buy that they've designed anything yet.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    South Korea has been in a roll the past few years every weapons good seems like all South Korea

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