Yeah. much easier to get a long range Sam on the open market than a VLO strike aircraft that has a STOVL variant for small carriers if you wanna go that route.
F35 is undisputedly the better option. However with hindsight, Turkiye couldnt afford to buy any significant amount of them or operate them with enough pilot training hours for it to matter anyway under their current economy.
They(Read erdogans son in law) probably already made their money spent on S400 back by training bayraktars against it then selling those all around the world.
F35 would also empower the armed forces more, which again would threatem Erdogan.
So was it a mistake for Turkiye? Yes.
Was it a mistake for Erdogan? No.
>F35 would also empower the armed forces more, which again would threatem Erdogan
Because he can beat F22 with his own fist, but can't do it to F35? Retard.
>May I see the wreckage ?
every time someone makes a comment with this reddit ass format it's always something retarded.
you will never see a wreckage, because NATO will never fly F-35s near S-400s
>May I see the wreckage ?
every time someone makes a comment with this reddit ass format it's always something retarded.
you will never see a wreckage, because NATO will never fly F-35s near S-400s
>May I see the wreckage ?
every time someone makes a comment with this reddit ass format it's always something retarded.
you will never see a wreckage, because NATO will never fly F-35s near S-400s
>US Senator 'Green Lights' F-35 Stealth Fighters For Greece
Soon… soon…
It was dumb but understandable dumb considering the turks have ambitions of empire.
But cut off from parts support on a advanced stealth fighter with a cutting edge engine is a lot more difficult then the same with an advanced SAM system. >but Iran
They barely fly their American jets for a reason.
It's an overrated piece of shit that fails to take down even HIMARS missiles. It didn't stop Ukrainian drones from attacking Russian airfields in Russia itself.
For fuck's sake, the Israeli air force already used F-35s to bomb Syria despite their S400s.
If you believe Turkey was on track to getting F-35 - yes.
If not, then it was a good purchase. For all the basedjacking over drones or new low RCS materials, a year into the most intense conflict since Korea/Vietnam nothing bigger than an FPV is flying over the battlefield.
All MALE UAVs died.
All jets died or remain grounded.
A successful air/kamikaze strike from Ukraine makes international news.
Only cruise missiles, GMLRS and anti-air remain.
Oh, and artillery.
Not at all. This was a political purchase, not a military one. Erdogan was already in a position where he might not be allowed to buy any F-35s, and bought a weapon system from the other side for two reasons: 1) giving NATO a slap and showing who is boss, and 2) getting his voters all crooning and applauding. It cost a little money but paid off a hundredfold as a negotiation tool. Erdogan has been kicking NATO around ever since.
Buying S-400 for the sake of buying it isn't the correct take. The act of buying that system is somekind of declaring independence for them. They've never intended to use that system but rather using it to jumpstart their own AA r&d. >F-35
Overpriced, and probably over-shilled system which has a 24/7 link to the server in the US, where everything is recorded what you do with the plane. It has a built-in killswitch which they don't even hide.
Is the F-35 a good purchase? When you're the US or Israel, definitely yes, if you're anyone else, absolutely not since it puts you on a tight leash.
Yeah
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Yeah. much easier to get a long range Sam on the open market than a VLO strike aircraft that has a STOVL variant for small carriers if you wanna go that route.
maybe they get some money back by selling secret s400 infos to America
>Implying that usa doesnt know more about s400 than russians themselves
F35 is undisputedly the better option. However with hindsight, Turkiye couldnt afford to buy any significant amount of them or operate them with enough pilot training hours for it to matter anyway under their current economy.
They(Read erdogans son in law) probably already made their money spent on S400 back by training bayraktars against it then selling those all around the world.
F35 would also empower the armed forces more, which again would threatem Erdogan.
So was it a mistake for Turkiye? Yes.
Was it a mistake for Erdogan? No.
>F35 would also empower the armed forces more, which again would threatem Erdogan
Because he can beat F22 with his own fist, but can't do it to F35? Retard.
Was it really one or the other? They don't serve the same purpose at all.
S-400 can take down F-35
F-35 can't take down S-400, said its operating with proper commanding and netcentric radiolocators.
Also, S-400 capable of shooting down cruise/ballistic missles, which gives Turks an edge over Israel/Iran
>S-400 can take down F-35
May I see the wreckage ?
F-35 has never flew close enough to one's radar
Now we’re just being retarded, I see.
>May I see the wreckage ?
every time someone makes a comment with this reddit ass format it's always something retarded.
you will never see a wreckage, because NATO will never fly F-35s near S-400s
S400 can't take down F35 but Turkey doesn't need to take down F35.
>US Senator 'Green Lights' F-35 Stealth Fighters For Greece
Soon… soon…
>S-400 capable of shooting down cruise/ballistic missles
This is how confident Russia is of that.
If anything this war has shown the s300 & 400 are one of the few decent things Russia has produced.
It was dumb but understandable dumb considering the turks have ambitions of empire.
But cut off from parts support on a advanced stealth fighter with a cutting edge engine is a lot more difficult then the same with an advanced SAM system.
>but Iran
They barely fly their American jets for a reason.
It's an overrated piece of shit that fails to take down even HIMARS missiles. It didn't stop Ukrainian drones from attacking Russian airfields in Russia itself.
For fuck's sake, the Israeli air force already used F-35s to bomb Syria despite their S400s.
If you believe Turkey was on track to getting F-35 - yes.
If not, then it was a good purchase. For all the basedjacking over drones or new low RCS materials, a year into the most intense conflict since Korea/Vietnam nothing bigger than an FPV is flying over the battlefield.
All MALE UAVs died.
All jets died or remain grounded.
A successful air/kamikaze strike from Ukraine makes international news.
Only cruise missiles, GMLRS and anti-air remain.
Oh, and artillery.
Not at all. This was a political purchase, not a military one. Erdogan was already in a position where he might not be allowed to buy any F-35s, and bought a weapon system from the other side for two reasons: 1) giving NATO a slap and showing who is boss, and 2) getting his voters all crooning and applauding. It cost a little money but paid off a hundredfold as a negotiation tool. Erdogan has been kicking NATO around ever since.
No they made the right choice.
S400 + mass artillery + drones is the way of modern warfare
Jets, tanks and boats are obsolete
Buying S-400 for the sake of buying it isn't the correct take. The act of buying that system is somekind of declaring independence for them. They've never intended to use that system but rather using it to jumpstart their own AA r&d.
>F-35
Overpriced, and probably over-shilled system which has a 24/7 link to the server in the US, where everything is recorded what you do with the plane. It has a built-in killswitch which they don't even hide.
Is the F-35 a good purchase? When you're the US or Israel, definitely yes, if you're anyone else, absolutely not since it puts you on a tight leash.
>Did Turkey waste their money buying this thing instead of the F - 35?
they went full retard