Russia's Kinzhal hypersonic missile has proven hugely effective in combat and effectively unstoppable. How many did Russia have, how many has it used and how many can it reasonably produce?
Russia's Kinzhal hypersonic missile has proven hugely effective in combat and effectively unstoppable.
>hugely effective in combat
By what metric
Hits maternity wards and sewage processing facilities like no other.
Salty Ukros detected
>Hugely effective in combat
You fired on innocent people in cities. I am not impressed.
Didn't Anglos kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in deliberate bombings?
Depends, which time?
yeah but they were nonwhite so who cares.
Good.
>Didn't Anglos kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in deliberate bombings?
So what you're saying is, Russian strike technology is on par with canvas-covered monoplane prop bombers from 80 years ago, and their copying tactics from 1944 is the peak of their abilities?
Its hardly a glowing commendation of how advanced Russia is, is it?
Didn't the Serbs try to GENOCIDE an entire people first?
>Muslims
>People
Pick one
I love how Al-Qaeda accused us of being anti-Muslim when we have sided with Muslims MULTIPLE times in wars.
>Serbs
>People
Pick one.
Russias bad.
Shut the fuck up.
Are you complaining about bombings done during total war and only after it was done to them first?
Are you trying to compare a "special operation" to a total war?
Who the fuck calls the British 'Anglos' in this context? If you're referring to the British and American strategic bombing campaigns just fucking call them the British and Americans, Such a bizarre phrase to use.
Yes, we all know the anglos are evil, but that doesn't make russians into good guys. Truth is the Old World is all shit. That's the reason my family is in America, because my ancestors got sick of Europe's shit and GTFO. My great grandfather came to America after being made to fight in WW1.
And that's why I don't like America getting involved in European wars. Europeans and Asians have been going at it for millenia and show no signs of ever stopping. Meanwhile in North America things are going fairly well. Neither Canada, Mexico nor America have gone to war with each other for while now. Imagine that, burgers and mexicans being more civil than Europe and Asia.
inb4
>muh injuns
Crimea River
>But whatabout anglos tho!!!
>what ABOOT anglos
They had air defenses around te cities that failed to intercept.
Made some good webms
got some?
It is air to surface missile...
The ground hit ratio is 100%
Killing endless waves of cockholes
Hitting Kiev, where USA, Germany, France and England already failing to protect the capital with their AA systems.
How will the holhols ever recover?
Idk it blew up that bus stop pretty good I guess.
detonated after launch instead of before
Why is there a US concept in the picture instead of the 1980's Era russian weapon OP is talking about?
Because if they used an actual image of one they might have to admit it's just an air launched Iskander.
pic related is what it ACTUALLY looks like lmao. vatniks cannot into actual hypersonic weapons so they strap a ballistic missile to an aircraft. at least german wunderwaffen were actually mostly novel concepts for their time.
Why does it look like a Pershing II from the 70s?
Because it’s basically a Pershing II. But shittier because it’s Russian
Wtf is that rope?
Decrease the size of the intake I'm guessing.
I thought they only had them on MiG-29's for use on improvised runways (pic rel). I know other jet's need to actively manage how much air goes into the intakes but I'd have thought it was done hydraulically.
I'm retarted - the red is universal for remove before flight.
it's holding the intake covers on anon, it gets removed before flight. Look closer
It's to stop people from bumping their head into that edge.
Literally the rope attached to the covers and the visible red strip.
It's so you can see that the covers are on even if inspected from the side, as they will always be attached to more forward covers that are more visible.
"actual hypersonic weapons" are any weapons that move at hypersonic velocities.
>nooo the term implies scramjet because reasons
It literally doesn't. If you want to say hypersonic scramjet, then say hypersonic scramjet. The word "hypersonic" itself doesn't specify anything about propulsion or mission.
A lot of weapons have been hypersonic but ADVERTIZED as "muh hypersonic"
The one of the far right, the CKEM? goes Mach 6.5 but General Atomics doesn't even mention its hypersonic nature in its own little missile flow chart.
Advertising claims are irrelevant. Does the weapon fly at hypersonic speeds or not? That's what determines whether or not a weapon is hypersonic.
Yes anon you technically 100% correct. I agree.
ICBMs? hypersonic
CKEM? hypersonic
TBMs? hypersonic
BUT in the English speaking MIC/World Hypersonic is reserved for air-breathing and glide body weapons.
You don't have to like it, you can be correct but you WILL BE the social outcast and get told this exact same shit online you wanna talk about them.
do you anon.
>ICBMs? hypersonic
>BUT in the English speaking MIC/World Hypersonic is reserved for [...] glide body weapons.
Guess what America developed for ICBMs decades ago?
Are you trying to tell me that maneuverable reentry vehicles in controlled flight at hypersonic velocities aren't "hypersonic weapons" because... they don't have scramjets? Give me a break.
MARV? yeah they hit hypersonic at terminal speed.
but we call them MARVs not HMARVs
We call them RVs not HRVs.
We call them ICBMs not HICBMs
Get it?
this is like a disagreement on nomenclature with both sides agreeing they have the same attributes.
>hypersonic is defined by having a letter in the designation
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't appreciate the shear depth of your autism. Carry on.
Do you sperg out equally as hard when someone refers to things as bullets and not supersonic bullets?
If somebody said that bullets aren't supersonic because they don't have jet engines, I would have a problem with that.
bullets aren't supersonic because they don't have jet engines
I have a problem with that.
While true, and I agree with you, the cope Russians and Chinks often post is "The west doesn't have hypersanics they still testing haha" when what they mean is the west hasn't perfected scramjets to a non test model.
The Chinks and Russians at the same time claim their weapons are effectively the same as the weapons the west is struggling with (scramjet hypersanics) despite being bargain basement SRBs, and thus people here argue that they aren't the same as the hypersanics, due to the wests decision to only use the nomenclature to apply to only their newer ram and scramjet technology.
So while yes, the chinks and rooshans have hypersanics, so does half the world.
The problem is simple really, the media once again is retarded, eats up shit and makes more shit, people misunderstand what the differences between hypersanics, and we have to argue about it here in every fucking goddamn hypersonic thread.
I'm no fan of russians and chinks, but perverting language just to dab on their shills isn't my cup of tea.
I don't subvert it, I just point it out. In every, fucking, thread.
I'm not the other anon.
as per us government
"The Army, Navy, and Air Force are each developing hypersonic missiles—nonnuclear offensive weapons that fly faster than five times the speed of sound and spend most of their flight in the Earth’s atmosphere."
"The fundamental remaining challenge involves managing the extreme heat that hypersonic missiles are exposed to by traveling at high speeds in the atmosphere for most of their flight (unlike cruise missiles, which fly in the atmosphere at lower speeds, or ballistic missiles, which mainly fly above the atmosphere)"
as per Northop Grumman
"Today, we face the challenge of hypersonic missiles and maneuvering reentry vehicles that can move through the atmosphere at more than five times the speed of sound."
In America Hypersonic is used to describe a certain type of missile that goes hypersonic a certain way. so yeah I'm autistic
>and maneuvering reentry vehicles
Hmmm, now who was it that brought that up? Turns out missiles don't need scramjets to be hypersonic, because these things called "rocket engines" exist.
>Hmmm, now who was it that brought that up?
Because MARVs are only hypersonic during the terminal phase which a small portion of their flight profile.
and Hypersonic missiles(as per Americans) spend the majority of their flight profile at hypersonic speeds.
This was brought up help the person reading the document understand the distinction.
>and maneuvering reentry vehicles
>in the English speaking MIC/World Hypersonic is reserved for air-breathing and glide body weapons.
in the weird anti-reality bubble shared by Russians, Chinese and Indian PR teams it is
In actuality, hypersanic is simply old news
>nothin personnel kid
Behold, a hypersonic missile!
>max speed of 2.24 km/s
yes that's quite quick.
>"actual hypersonic weapons" are any weapons that move at hypersonic velocities.
that is correct but only if you are a coping shitskin.
that does not accelerate half a ton of anything to 4km/s, it wouldn't even if it were literally made out of fuel, the whole thing except the warhead
what these cunts smoking
>ballistic missile
>range 2000km
>flight ceiling 20km
hmm?
>If it strikes with a mass of 2,000 kg (4,400 lb), including 500 kg warhead, and at a speed of Mach 12
>hmmmm??
To fast to make photo anonn
>hugely effective
it's the second stage of a normal ballistic missile strapped to a plane, technically hypersonic but then again so is just about every ballistic missile.
it's about as effective as any other ballistic missile system, calling it hypersonic doesn't make it special.
Except that normal ballistic missile doesn`t need to slow down in the final stage to correct itself due to high speed
You don't need to slow down if you have good satellite guidance
Their latest wave of 80 missiles had like only 6 of those and I'm surprised they can't even hit a straight target with the normal missiles.
>spend 4.5m on a hypersonic cruise missile to blow up some random transformators worth 250k that can be replaced in 2 weeks
yeah, thats some serious strategic impact
the funniest part is that it's not a hypersonic cruise missile. chinks and vatniks like to pretend that if they slap hypersonic on the name that automatically turns it into a hypersonic glide reentry vehicle or a hypersonic cruise missile which is what people actually mean when they use the word hypersonic in this day and age.
Engineers were getting the power back up and running as fast as within the same day.
>hugely effective
The mutts forced Serbia to surrender in 78 days mostly with Tomahawk strikes, it was 80s technology.
Russia is still struggling on border towns after 13 months. Russian shit is exactly the opposite of "effective"
Hasn't been used in combat. They use it to hit static, non tactical or strategic targets.
>hugely effective
The war is over?
>using your super duper fancy carrier-killing maneuverable missile to blow up a stationary diesel pump from the soviet era
I strongly recommend Orcostan continue these actions.
>AI to dodge obstacles
hah
hahahaha
hahahahahahaha
does it mine warcrimecoins on the block chain too?
shit thread already, post marichka
she's been eating too many mobik corpses again.
BIG Marichka is best Marichka! Moar!
this is now a marichka thread
Can her frens come too?
every war propaganda girl is welcome in my book, i want them all in my harem
keep it going anons, MOAR
i'll post one but then i'm going to sleep and lucid dream fuckin a marichka bareback. cya anons
I recognize the gay blowjob drone operator, the azov sharkteeth girl, the Humvee AT marauder, and the Ukie rambo. But who's the other two guys?
>hugely effective
1 wunderwaffen Kinzhal
or
100 2000lb JDAMs
Which would be more effective in a war against an enemy with average air defenses
Germany's V-2 supersonic missile has proven hugely effective in combat and effectively unstoppable.
Theater ballistic missiles are great, but the V-2 is an obsolete design (very expensive to manufacture). There are now much cheaper missiles which do the same job.
The fact they have to use a "top of the line" missile to knock out a power grid for a day is not a good sign
>The fact they have to use a "top of the line" missile to knock out a power grid for a day is not a good sign
lmfao, you goddamn nafo fagots should have your skulls cracked
Russian Kinzhal:Hypersonic
>$6million per missile
Patriot Missile system:
>Single Patriot-missile system=$1Billion
>Single Patriot missile=$3million
>Single Patriot missile salvo:$18million (6 rockets)
have ANY of you nafo idiots caught on to the cost of US munitions vs Russian?
and just think the Kinzhal is HYPERSONIC,
so IF and "when" the US finally gets one it will probably be like $25million per missile, and they will suck complete ass untill block-iv 5 years later
Man, with economic and advanced weapons like that, Russia must have won the war already.
now calculate how many of those cheap awesome rockets can shrinking russian economy actually produce vs nato
burger capitalists do not understand that in Russia people work for food and do not need money
Kinzhal is hypersonic as any other ballistic missile in the terminal phase is hypersonic, even shitholes like Iran have ballistic missiles.
Human lives in the US just cost more.
In terms of man hours the US beats you hands down.
Russia only makes weapons capable of defeating a civilian population. Change my mind
>Russia only makes weapons capable of defeating a civilian population. Change my mind
this is precisely the purpose of war, are you some kind of idiot?
the fundamental purpose of a national-military is to protect its civilians, and civilian assets from extra-national aggression.
full stop
to this end, Russia is succeeding massively, while the ukraine has failed utterly
Cool. Now deal with the thousands of people with guns that kill you 5:1
That is only true in total war.
Vatfags are only supposed to be conducting a special operation against the Ukrainian military.
oh op you've done a wrong think and I am here for the coping and seething you inspire
well done
How many does Russia have?
Wasting such rockets to destroy some power stations (if they are lucky) and random civilian commie blocks sound like a waste
>camera
>mach 12
doubt
>and effectively unstoppable
Ukies can't stop even Kh-22 because they don't have AWACS plane
>can be remotely piloted
kek, russia finally entered the 1940s
gentle reminder that there is no footage of any Russian missiles traveling even remotely close to hypersonic speeds, and since it is a day ending in Y, the Russians are lying again
Kinzhal is a quite literally an air launched TBM/SRBM(ALBM) that becomes hypersonic during its terminal phase.(like a truck or ship launched one)
THAAD was designed to combat TBMs even those with MARVs.... so yeah keep banging on your chest like a nonce
Oh and has ANYONE seen a optical sensor for Kinzhal or Isklander-M?
just curious if they are using radar or imaging for terminal guidance
This missile have been making PrepHole seethe for years, and he is not planning to stop. Lol
It hasn't even gone up against patriots yet. We need to wait and see when those finally arrive
Blowing up random civilian buildings is not combat effective you fucking retard.
>electricity substations and transformers and power plants were all just hit.... randomly.....
wow 30% power loss and 2-8 hours to restore it are DEFINITELY proof of Russia's overwhelming might and capacity for terror and not at all the same as a bad winter storm downing trees and power lines
>no sugar for you, Vanya
Doesn't have the accuracy to reliably hit factory sized targets
>has proven hugely effective in combat and effectively unstoppable.
By combat you mean the thousand of civilian buildings that have been bombed? If that's what you vatmorons define as "hugely effective in combat" then good work I guess.
Empty field denazified of holol piggies mmmmm *~~*~~*~~)
Nobody knew what didn't hit them.
the bees knew
Was this a failed attempt to destroy Ukraine's strategic reserves of honey?
They were genetically modified anti-Russia bees grown in the HATO biolabs. Their sting immediately neutralizes any amount of alcohol in a Russian's bloodstream. When experiencing with sobriety for the first time since early childhood, the typical response is for the Russian to immediately kill themselves. A true terror weapon.
>AI allows it to dodge obstacles
inb4 it dodges to miss the target
I cant imagine russias missile factories arent known, there must be a lot of activity. Where are they? I just want to see them on the map for autism purposes
>effectively unstoppable
Incorrect. They can be stopped by shooting down the aircraft they're launched from. Ukraine is incapable of this (since the missiles are launched from within Russia's borders). NATO is not. The Kinzhal is totally worthless against NATO because the moment NATO and Russia go to war is the moment that nothing Russian will ever fly again because NATO air power is almost farcically superior to Russia's.
>Russia's Kinzhal hypersonic missile has proven hugely effective in combat